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Title: What is this part
Post by: jsylvester08 on July 20, 2012, 07:33:05 PM
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data//500/thumbs/random_boat_part.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=5434&title=random-boat-part&cat=500)

So i was out on the water the other day and when I got home this part was sitting on the deck under the engine. It's a 1983 Evinrude 115. I towed the boat about 45 min. did this part just rattle off for the trailering?
Also I noticed a bit of oil on the deck under the engine could this just be from trailering maybe came out of the carb? I trim the engine up all the way to tow it.
Title: Re: What is this part
Post by: seabob4 on July 20, 2012, 07:54:26 PM
I would hazard a guess, but it sure looks like a shift/throttle cable retainer to me.  And since it "fell" out, I would guess it has been sitting there loose in the lower pan for quite some time...

Figured I put it in a better view for all to see...

(http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh301/seabob4/Proline%20website%20pics/Hardware/random_boat_part.jpg)
Title: Re: What is this part
Post by: akbridge on July 20, 2012, 08:21:18 PM
It looks like it could be a retaining clip for shift cables.  Pull off your cowling and follow the cables into the engine area.  There should be a small clip holding both cables on the right side of the carbs.  Good luck finding the home of your mystery bracket.
Title: Re: What is this part
Post by: akbridge on July 20, 2012, 08:23:32 PM
After looking at SB's blown up photo.  It may not be a cable retainer.  Could be some type of carb linkage.
Title: Re: What is this part
Post by: John Jones on July 20, 2012, 08:28:08 PM
Before anyone else posted I was tempted to say it looked like the carb linkage off a lawnmower but I did not want to derail a serious thread.    :D
Title: Re: What is this part
Post by: seabob4 on July 20, 2012, 09:12:39 PM
Quote from: "John Jones"
Before anyone else posted I was tempted to say it looked like the carb linkage off a lawnmower but I did not want to derail a serious thread.    :D

Was thinking same, JJ...Briggs...
Title: Re: What is this part
Post by: fitz73222 on July 21, 2012, 04:21:06 AM
Well...

Ralph Evinrude Sr. did sell the company to Briggs and Stratten in the 1930's and then bought it back so it could be a legacy stamping! Seriously, I'm looking at two wear points on the ears of the stamping like they were stops for something. I first thought it is part of manual choke linkage but by '83 that engine should have a primer/enrichner solenoid so that aint it. I think '83 was the first year for VRO so see if it is some kind of support linkage; curiously you mentioned seeing oil on the deck. See if the VRO pump is just hanging there. Look for a shoulder screw that is laying in the engine pan. By the looks of oily fuzzy gunk on the bracket its been hanging around oil under there. So my guess is VRO pump support bracket...
Title: Re: What is this part
Post by: fitz73222 on July 21, 2012, 04:23:58 AM
Quote from: "fitz73222"
Well...

Ralph Evinrude Sr. did sell the company to Briggs and Stratten in the 1930's and then bought it back so it could be a legacy stamping! Seriously, I'm looking at two wear points on the ears of the stamping like they were stops for something. I first thought it is part of manual choke linkage but by '83 that engine should have a primer/enrichner solenoid so that aint it. I think '83 was the first year for VRO so see if it is some kind of support linkage; curiously you mentioned seeing oil on the deck. See if the VRO pump is just hanging there. Look for a shoulder screw that is laying in the engine pan. By the looks of oily fuzzy gunk on the bracket its been hanging around oil under there. So my guess is VRO pump support bracket...


I just looked again, not VRO, to small. I'm going with some king of stop...
Title: Re: What is this part
Post by: GoneFission on July 21, 2012, 10:29:41 AM
I'm not sure, but I think that is what holds the turboencapulator in place.   Check the unilateral phase detractor and see if the axial venturi vanes are aligned with the analog conductor reluctor.  Since this is a 1983, this one has an analog multi-link syncronized doppler multi-switch, and is much simpler than later models.  After 1990, the analog system was replaced with a digital non-reversable unit that eliminated the possibility of mulitmode phase dissonance that could, under some conditions, cause reluctor trim to be nonconductive with the encapulator.   :thumleft:
Title: Re: What is this part
Post by: gran398 on July 21, 2012, 12:02:23 PM
BINGO! You nailed it :cheers:

Can't believe the other MM missed it :lol: ...but teamwork..."That's what its all about!"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDmCSvqhhoI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDmCSvqhhoI)
Title: Re: What is this part
Post by: seabob4 on July 21, 2012, 03:14:00 PM
Quote from: "GoneFission"
I'm not sure, but I think that is what holds the turboencapulator in place.   Check the unilateral phase detractor and see if the axial venturi vanes are aligned with the analog conductor reluctor.  Since this is a 1983, this one has an analog multi-link syncronized doppler multi-switch, and is much simpler than later models.  After 1990, the analog system was replaced with a digital non-reversable unit that eliminated the possibility of mulitmode phase dissonance that could, under some conditions, cause reluctor trim to be nonconductive with the encapulator.   :thumleft:

LOL!!!  Well done John!!! :cheers:  :cheers:  :cheers:
Title: Re: What is this part
Post by: jsylvester08 on July 21, 2012, 11:27:15 PM
Thanks for the help but what does all of that mean in laymans terms. I have pretty much learned the engine as I've repaired it( or tried) but all of those parts seems foreign. Do you maybe have a pic or a way to describe it with out the tech terms. I'm sure in time I will know every part of this engine but for now I pretty much learn it as I go ( on the job training)
Title: Re: What is this part
Post by: gran398 on July 21, 2012, 11:53:46 PM
Quote from: "jsylvester08"
Thanks for the help but what does all of that mean in laymans terms. I have pretty much learned the engine as I've repaired it( or tried) but all of those parts seems foreign. Do you maybe have a pic or a way to describe it with out the tech terms. I'm sure in time I will know every part of this engine but for now I pretty much learn it as I go ( on the job training)


Young man, in layman's terms....we're not quite sure. Everyone gave it their best shot, there was no consensus. We then went to frivolity (joking around)

That part, since it dropped off at the transom, extraneous of the engine, and was discovered on the deck... could be a cable stay/separator. If so, no biggie.

PDF's are available as needed.

Thanks and best, let us know what you find.
Title: Re: What is this part
Post by: akbridge on July 22, 2012, 08:33:31 AM
Take a few pictures of the carb linkages and surrounding area.  We might have better luck figuring it out.
Title: Re: What is this part
Post by: GoneFission on July 22, 2012, 11:05:51 AM
Quote from: "jsylvester08"
Thanks for the help but what does all of that mean in laymans terms. I have pretty much learned the engine as I've repaired it( or tried) but all of those parts seems foreign. Do you maybe have a pic or a way to describe it with out the tech terms. I'm sure in time I will know every part of this engine but for now I pretty much learn it as I go ( on the job training)

Sorry Jsyl, but as stated by others above, my answer was total gobbledy-gook.   :shock:   I'm not sure any of us know exactly what that part is, so we went off the deep end a bit into humor.   :tongue:   Sometimes you need a sense of humor to be around this crowd!   :lol:   Now back to our regularly-scheduled program...   :thumleft:
Title: Re: What is this part
Post by: seabob4 on July 22, 2012, 12:54:48 PM
It IS the turboencapulaor retaining mechanism!!!  I've seen it!  Honest to God!  Ask my Mom, she'll tell you...
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