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Title: 1979 22-2 Rebuild: Complete!
Post by: gwhitley on July 11, 2012, 09:43:05 AM
Hey guys, I know some of you have been curious about the boat, sorry it's taken me a while to post some pics.  First, the back-story.  I got up with Eugene Son down at Shipoke, outside of Tampa, through the forum and a few very helpful members.  What started as a mere curious inquiry has turned into an incredible boat that I'll surely keep and use for many years down the road.  After going down and meeting with Eugene in December, and seeing what a first-class job those guys do, I decided to embark on a rebuild with them.  Eugene was great to work with; I had many ideas of my own, and he had many more (and better) ideas that we infused along the way.  What we ended with is a highly functional 22-2 with lots of storage, a ton of fishing room, the right power setup, and a great ride.  The fit and finish on this boat is, in my opinion, second to none.  I'll stop with the rambling and throw some pictures up; I will get more interior and detailed pics this evening and post them, it's been storming for 40 days and nights up here recently.  

Feel free to ask any questions, I'm sure Eugene will chime in as well.  I won't post pics of the process, will leave that up to Eugene if he so chooses.
Title: Re: 1979 22-2 Rebuild: Complete!
Post by: gwhitley on July 11, 2012, 09:44:54 AM
More pictures.
Title: Re: 1979 22-2 Rebuild: Complete!
Post by: gwhitley on July 11, 2012, 09:49:58 AM
In the water!
Title: Re: 1979 22-2 Rebuild: Complete!
Post by: gwhitley on July 11, 2012, 09:51:15 AM
More.
Title: Re: 1979 22-2 Rebuild: Complete!
Post by: gwhitley on July 11, 2012, 09:52:06 AM
As I said, will get more interior and detailed pics this evening, if the rain holds off.
Title: Re: 1979 22-2 Rebuild: Complete!
Post by: Skoot on July 11, 2012, 10:24:54 AM
WOW!  Looks sweeeet and the color is awesome!  Nice :cheers:
Title: Re: 1979 22-2 Rebuild: Complete!
Post by: MarshMarlowe196 on July 11, 2012, 10:27:46 AM
Very nice!
Title: Re: 1979 22-2 Rebuild: Complete!
Post by: gran398 on July 11, 2012, 11:57:18 AM
Greg.....WOW!!

What a beauty, congratulations. You have a lot to be proud of, as do you Eugene.

I was fortunate to see some build pics along the way...guys, she is just as sweet underneath.

Can't wait to see her this fall!

GREAT job :cheers:
Title: Re: 1979 22-2 Rebuild: Complete!
Post by: Capt. Bob on July 11, 2012, 12:27:59 PM
Excellent job.  :cheers:  

It's refreshing to see a professional rebuild that leaves the owner highly satisfied.
Seems we had a little run of disappointments in this area as of late.

Hopefully that's changing.

Enjoy it Greg. :thumright:
Title: Re: 1979 22-2 Rebuild: Complete!
Post by: Necessary Evil on July 11, 2012, 03:44:46 PM
Great looking ride! I really like the way you did the transom cap with all of that storage/livewell. How does she run with the 150? Did you move your fuel tank forward some to compensate for the Porta Bracket?
Title: Re: 1979 22-2 Rebuild: Complete!
Post by: RickK on July 11, 2012, 03:46:40 PM
Very Nice  :!:  :!:  :salut:
Title: Re: 1979 22-2 Rebuild: Complete!
Post by: gwhitley on July 11, 2012, 03:54:15 PM
We got an 82-gallon tank in there that is about 10 ft long, so that moves a good bit of weight forward.  Having the batteries in the coffin box also helps.  Eugene can elaborate more on the technical specifics.

As for the power, I was honestly worried about being underpowered.  However, it turns out that the power is perfect.  With four guys and a full load of gas, it cruises at 30-31 mph getting about 3.8 mpg.  I believe we topped out at 6000 rpms around 43 mph.  Couldn't ask for more!  The motor isn't too heavy and obviously allows the boat to sit and run like it should.  There is so little bowrise it's incredible, and that's without running the tabs down any.  Worked out great, I'm glad Eugene had that much faith in it being the correct power.
Title: Re: 1979 22-2 Rebuild: Complete!
Post by: Necessary Evil on July 11, 2012, 04:07:34 PM
Gran398's badge from Adeptus in Tampa would look great on your boat.

(http://i1083.photobucket.com/albums/j384/charliecowin/adeptus.jpg)



http://www.adeptusind.com/pages/336936/index.htm (http://www.adeptusind.com/pages/336936/index.htm)
Title: Re: 1979 22-2 Rebuild: Complete!
Post by: gwhitley on July 11, 2012, 06:58:25 PM
Interior, as promised.
Title: Re: 1979 22-2 Rebuild: Complete!
Post by: gwhitley on July 11, 2012, 07:00:14 PM
More
Title: Re: 1979 22-2 Rebuild: Complete!
Post by: gwhitley on July 11, 2012, 07:02:00 PM
More.
Title: Re: 1979 22-2 Rebuild: Complete!
Post by: gwhitley on July 11, 2012, 07:06:36 PM
More.
Title: Re: 1979 22-2 Rebuild: Complete!
Post by: gwhitley on July 11, 2012, 07:07:57 PM
Last for now.
Title: Re: 1979 22-2 Rebuild: Complete!
Post by: alandry100 on July 11, 2012, 07:17:42 PM
Wow - that is some nice work - enjoy.
Title: Re: 1979 22-2 Rebuild: Complete!
Post by: ANTIBLING on July 12, 2012, 03:42:21 PM
HEY I recognize that switch panel, my shop made it for Eugene awhile back. He showed us pictures of this boat on his phone last time he was here. Looks great!
Title: Re: 1979 22-2 Rebuild: Complete!
Post by: Capt. Bob on July 12, 2012, 11:24:02 PM
Good lookin' boat but I'm not a fan of wing nuts on battery posts.

How are the raw water feeds mounted?

Good luck.
Title: Re: 1979 22-2 Rebuild: Complete!
Post by: Group W Bench on July 16, 2012, 02:41:48 PM
Sorry for the delay in posting. We have been scalloping in Homosassa. From the pictures that Greg has been sending, it appears as though he's getting some good use out of the boat rustling up some tarpon. Bow to the silver king.

(http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/ab19/group_w_bench/IMG_9115.jpg)

Greg was one of those ideal clients who had great ideas about what he wanted out of a functional fishing rig, yet was still open to ideas and suggestions regarding the practical application and cost constraints of the wish list. The boat runs and performs according to the parameters that he articulated and came out really well. It was rebuilt without using wood, but rather Nidacore and Coosa for the floors and transom. It came in at 2,040 lbs hull weight prior to rigging the console, bracket and tower. This was 40 lbs heavier than we had anticipated but still within 2% of 2,000 lb. target weight for which we were shooting. This included the 2 additional layers of 1708 that we sheathed the entire hull and sides with prior to glassing in the new stringers. There were 2 overlapping 1708s that glassed in the box stringers extending all the way to the chines. As time allows, I can post detailed step by step rebuild pictures with brief descriptions that may benefit folks on future rebuilds. Some of the tips and tricks will hopefully save folks time and money on future rebuilds.
Title: Re: 1979 22-2 Rebuild: Complete!
Post by: RickK on July 16, 2012, 03:20:08 PM
Quote from: "Group W Bench"
As time allows, I can post detailed step by step rebuild pictures with brief descriptions that may benefit folks on future rebuilds. Some of the tips and tricks will hopefully save folks time and money on future rebuilds.
Sounds like a good idea - maybe start a new post and treat it as a generic rebuild?
Title: Re: 1979 22-2 Rebuild: Complete!
Post by: Group W Bench on July 17, 2012, 06:59:17 PM
Bob, I'm not sure I understand the question. I only know of one way to mount a clamshell pickup through the hull.

Quote from: "Capt. Bob"
Good lookin' boat but I'm not a fan of wing nuts on battery posts.

How are the raw water feeds mounted?

Good luck.
Title: Re: 1979 22-2 Rebuild: Complete!
Post by: Capt. Bob on July 17, 2012, 07:40:43 PM
Quote from: "Group W Bench"
Bob, I'm not sure I understand the question. I only know of one way to mount a clamshell pickup through the hull.

OK,
What are the four devices surrounding the 90 degree bends?
From the pics they appear to be lock nuts to me but I could be wrong. What do they do?
Title: Re: 1979 22-2 Rebuild: Complete!
Post by: Group W Bench on July 17, 2012, 07:59:17 PM
One piece clamshells pickups have one threaded bronze inlet (3/4" in this case) and 4 smaller countersunk holes for bolts (#10 flats w/ nylocks nuts in this case) to keep the clamshell from rotating. We go straight from the pickup to a 90 elbow, to ball valve, to strainer, to pump. Going directly from the pickup to the 90 mitigates the potential for airlock that can occur when the ball valve, strainer, and pump are stacked directly atop the pickup. There are only 2-3" of vertical lift to overcome w/ the 90 where you have treble or fourfold the vertical lift when stacking directly atop the pickup.
Title: Re: 1979 22-2 Rebuild: Complete!
Post by: Capt. Bob on July 17, 2012, 09:01:57 PM
I see.
So it looks similar to this underneath.
http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/us ... Strainers# (http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=12113&familyName=Perko+Weed+Guards+for+Intake+Water+Strainers#)
Title: Re: 1979 22-2 Rebuild: Complete!
Post by: gran398 on July 17, 2012, 09:20:56 PM
Correct.

Same as installed by the quality builders here. Internally, everything is parallel to the hull bottom, as low in the bilge as possible.

There is a link on the Miss Delmarva rebuild thread to the Onslow Bay build post on THT. Their raw water intake install is exactly as shown above.


Biggest reason boat owners switch over from Rule-style livewell pumps to expensive, high amperage draw, low flow diaphragm pumps....airlock issues.

A proper install prevents the problem.
Title: Re: 1979 22-2 Rebuild: Complete!
Post by: Group W Bench on July 18, 2012, 07:50:00 AM
Very similar. We use Groco pickups, but they are functionally the same as the Perko ones.


Quote from: "Capt. Bob"
I see.
So it looks similar to this underneath.
http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/us ... Strainers# (http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=12113&familyName=Perko+Weed+Guards+for+Intake+Water+Strainers#)
Title: Re: 1979 22-2 Rebuild: Complete!
Post by: Group W Bench on July 18, 2012, 07:54:46 AM
You are absolutely right Scott, airlock is a common issue with livewells. So many folks assume that the pump is the issue when in reality it is the vertical lift that is the real issue. The 90 is the easiest way to address this issue.

Quote from: "gran398"
Correct.

Same as installed by the quality builders here. Internally, everything is parallel to the hull bottom, as low in the bilge as possible.

There is a link on the Miss Delmarva rebuild thread to the Onslow Bay build post on THT. Their raw water intake install is exactly as shown above.


Biggest reason boat owners switch over from Rule-style livewell pumps to expensive, high amperage draw, low flow diaphragm pumps....airlock issues.

A proper install prevents the problem.
Title: Re: 1979 22-2 Rebuild: Complete!
Post by: Aswaff400 on July 18, 2012, 07:21:36 PM
man that thing looks SWEEETTT!!! :thumleft:
Title: Re: 1979 22-2 Rebuild: Complete!
Post by: Capt Matt on July 20, 2012, 08:00:55 PM
Amazing transformation, I saw that hull before the rebuild up close so I know how much was involved
Enjoy your ride
Capt Matt
Title: Re: 1979 22-2 Rebuild: Complete!
Post by: Group W Bench on July 21, 2012, 09:14:49 PM
Thanks Capt. Matt for the help in securing this boat. This boat came together as a result of introductions from this board. Greg was introduced to Shipoke via Gran398 in North Cackalacky. Capt. Matt knew the fellow in Pine Island who sold the hull to Greg, and facilitated the payment and delivery the boat prior to restoration. Thanks to both Scott and Matt for all your help in making this restoration happen.
Title: Re: 1979 22-2 Rebuild: Complete!
Post by: gran398 on July 21, 2012, 09:47:56 PM
Thank you,  Eugene. Your membership has been a strong plus here, and we appreciate it.

With regard to our club, and helping each other... It has always been that way, and good Lord willing, will continue.

Per the fun kid vid today....

 "That's what its all about."
Title: Re: 1979 22-2 Rebuild: Complete!
Post by: shortpants on July 22, 2012, 07:35:04 AM
Very nice, I especially love the intergrated livewell into the transom!  Comparitively this rebuild to the shop in Tampa that did mine it appears that Eugene and his crew are definately more experienced and capable to handle a quality rebuild more then that shop!!   :thumleft: ....and we all know which shop I'm talking about :wink:
Title: Re: 1979 22-2 Rebuild: Complete!
Post by: gwhitley on July 22, 2012, 10:47:07 AM
Yeah, definitely want to thank Scott and Matt for helping facilitate this project. I am very pleased with the way things worked out and couldn't have done this but for the members here.
Title: Re: 1979 22-2 Rebuild: Complete!
Post by: CaptSteveBetz on September 25, 2012, 10:58:18 AM
I have been through this thread before and found it again today with the help from Gran.

I am having some serious delam issues with the build on my Proline that I just completed last year.
After reading the thread again and reviewing the pictures I am even more confident that my Proline will be repaired properly and stay together now that it is in Eugen of Shipoke Custom Boatworks hands.

As of this time Eugene has been nothing less that professional in the way he has dealt with my issues. He has gone above and beyond.
When its all said and done I will give a full report with details so maybe I can save someone else the heartache of what I am going through.

BTW beautiful build!
Title: Re: 1979 22-2 Rebuild: Complete!
Post by: fishinonthebrain on September 25, 2012, 05:52:14 PM
Great looking boat you have there. Everything custom looks like it came from the factory or even better.

I am in the middle of boxing in my transom and want to do something simular to your boat and could use some info.

I have a couple questions maybe you could help me with.

I see that you had some lockers installed on either sides of the console for storage. Are they water tight from the deck? If not where does the water go when entering though these boxes?

I love the livewell built into the transom. Did the rebuilder make the livewell then box in the transom around it? Did he make the livewell or did he buy it and if so from where?
Title: Re: 1979 22-2 Rebuild: Complete!
Post by: Showtime7 on September 30, 2012, 10:32:08 AM
Your boat looks awesome!!! I just purchased a 1976 22.2 that will get overhauled. What are the dimensions of your console. Looks perfect. also, can you send me Eugene's contact info.

Thanks
Title: Re: 1979 22-2 Rebuild: Complete!
Post by: kraw2 on September 30, 2012, 11:27:44 AM
Perfect layout and use of space. I think I see a scratch..!!
Title: Re: 1979 22-2 Rebuild: Complete!
Post by: gran398 on September 30, 2012, 02:29:59 PM
Quote from: "Showtime7"
Your boat looks awesome!!! I just purchased a 1976 22.2 that will get overhauled. What are the dimensions of your console. Looks perfect. also, can you send me Eugene's contact info.

Thanks


viewtopic.php?f=6&t=9451 (http://www.classicaquasport.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=9451)
Title: Re: 1979 22-2 Rebuild: Complete!
Post by: Group W Bench on October 03, 2012, 11:13:40 PM
Fishinonthebrain,

The hatches drain into the bilge. Despite what folks say about "watertight" hatches in floors, I've yet to see one that actually is watertight in practice. The integrated transom livewell starts from the leaning post livewells that we make. We cut the livewell down, glass it in, and fair it in. Feel free to give me a call if you have questions and I'm happy to walk you through the process in more detail.

Regards,

Eugene

Quote from: "fishinonthebrain"
Great looking boat you have there. Everything custom looks like it came from the factory or even better.

I am in the middle of boxing in my transom and want to do something simular to your boat and could use some info.

I have a couple questions maybe you could help me with.

I see that you had some lockers installed on either sides of the console for storage. Are they water tight from the deck? If not where does the water go when entering though these boxes?

I love the livewell built into the transom. Did the rebuilder make the livewell then box in the transom around it? Did he make the livewell or did he buy it and if so from where?
Title: Re: 1979 22-2 Rebuild: Complete!
Post by: Tominator on February 05, 2013, 09:57:26 AM
Wow what a beautiful boat!  How is she working out?
Title: Re: 1979 22-2 Rebuild: Complete!
Post by: kegger on January 19, 2014, 09:10:21 AM
Nice ride! I'd like 1 just like her!
Title: Re: 1979 22-2 Rebuild: Complete!
Post by: xavier on September 06, 2014, 09:35:32 PM
Is boat still for sale?
Thanks
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