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Aquasport Mechanicals - things that need a wrench, screwdriver or multimeter => Fuel tanks and anything about fuel systems => Topic started by: Fletch170 on May 16, 2012, 01:59:33 PM

Title: Plumbers tape on Brass Fuel barbs?
Post by: Fletch170 on May 16, 2012, 01:59:33 PM
Got my tank in, and now I need to run the fuel line. I have a 5/8 fuel barb that screws into the tank pickup. Should I use teflon tape with this? I believe the tank pickup (which also screws into the tank) is a progressively  thread.

Any advice? Tape? No tape?

-Fletch
Title: Re: Plumbers tap on Brass Fuel barbs?
Post by: Fletch170 on May 16, 2012, 02:04:36 PM
Also, the barbs and fuel line i have is 1/4 inch internally. Is this OK? A 115 Yami shouldn't starve, correct?

-Fletch
Title: Re: Plumbers tap on Brass Fuel barbs?
Post by: gran398 on May 16, 2012, 02:08:37 PM
Don't use the tape. Go to the auto parts store and get some of that black goop that is gas resist...use it LIGHTLY. Don't want it going in the tank.

Also remember to remove the anti-siphon valve. There is a pic on here somewhere, try the "search" feature :thumright:
Title: Re: Plumbers tap on Brass Fuel barbs?
Post by: flounderpounder225 on May 16, 2012, 02:09:43 PM
If its pipe thread (NPT) which I'm sure it is, I would use thread sealer (pipe dope) as first choice, then teflon tape as a second choice.  Either is Ok, were not talking pressure here, but the thread sealer will help even the tightening, prevent gauling the threads and make it easier at some point in the future to remove the fitting.
Title: Re: Plumbers tap on Brass Fuel barbs?
Post by: dburr on May 16, 2012, 02:14:39 PM
If you search online for the 2002 Yam outboard  rigging guide you will find it in PDF ( I found it but can't send it from this thing) and that should verify the size for you, if your have any doubts, go bigger.  Thead tape or chemical resistant pipe dope is recommended.. Pipe thread (NPT) is tapered but is not self sealing..
Title: Re: Plumbers tap on Brass Fuel barbs?
Post by: dburr on May 16, 2012, 02:15:54 PM
:mrgreen: guess we all type at about the same speed.. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Plumbers tap on Brass Fuel barbs?
Post by: Fletch170 on May 16, 2012, 04:10:19 PM
I guess the best way is to check the nipple on the motor itself? I really hope all the stuff I have fits.

I will head over to the brain trust that is my local autozone and see if they have the pipe dope.
Title: Re: Plumbers tap on Brass Fuel barbs?
Post by: wingtime on May 16, 2012, 04:13:41 PM
Marc hit the nail on the head with the galling.  Use a pipe dope that is fuel resistant.  Last time I picked some up at Ace Hardware.
Title: Re: Plumbers tap on Brass Fuel barbs?
Post by: Skoot on May 16, 2012, 04:56:43 PM
I used a product called Seal-All (figured with a name like I couldn't go wrong :lol: ) Got it from ACE for $2-3.  reminded me of contact cement, maybe stronger.

http://www.eclecticproducts.com/sealall.htm (http://www.eclecticproducts.com/sealall.htm)
Title: Re: Plumbers tap on Brass Fuel barbs?
Post by: Fletch170 on May 18, 2012, 09:21:42 AM
SO,

Went to the shop late night on the way back from work and checked the fuel line on the motor. It appears to be 1/4 inch internal diameter. I'm thinking I'm in the clear with the fuel line and barbs I bought. I guess I'll find out when I put the hammer down and run the thing lean and blow it to pieces.

The rigging PDF didn't say anything about the fuel feed diameter.

Should have the deck glued and screwed this weekend if everything goes to plan.
Title: Re: Plumbers tap on Brass Fuel barbs?
Post by: seabob4 on May 18, 2012, 09:53:18 AM
Yamaha fuel line is a metric size, bigger than 1/4" but smaller than 3/8".  We use 3/8" barbs, the Yam line WILL go on the barbs, just a tight fit...
Title: Re: Plumbers tap on Brass Fuel barbs?
Post by: Fletch170 on May 18, 2012, 11:18:21 AM
Bob,

Being that the 115 is a smaller engine, do you feel the 1/4 line will effect the delivery? It is a SMALL difference between the 2, but I want to be sure I wont have issues. The floor goes in TOMORROW, argh.
Title: Re: Plumbers tap on Brass Fuel barbs?
Post by: seabob4 on May 18, 2012, 11:22:23 AM
Christian,
Even on 115s I use 3/8"  Actually, the only 1/4" ID fuel feeds I've ever dealt with were on Westerbeke and Kohler generators...
Title: Re: Plumbers tap on Brass Fuel barbs?
Post by: Fletch170 on May 18, 2012, 11:25:05 AM
Roger that,

Heading to worst marine on my lunch break to get taken advantage of. UGH.
Title: Re: Plumbers tap on Brass Fuel barbs?
Post by: Fletch170 on May 18, 2012, 12:58:26 PM
annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd I'm back.

5 dollars a foot....that sounds reasonable. West Marine preys on unprepared boaters.

Anyhow, got the barbs too. 3/8th it is.

Thanks again for the help guys!
Title: Re: Plumbers tap on Brass Fuel barbs?
Post by: skyliner4444 on May 19, 2012, 08:19:02 PM
This stuff works great on fuel fittings. I just picked some up at a local hardware store for $5.99. The teflon tape gets cut up by the threads and can release pieces over time that can clog fuel injectors, etc.

http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=9403&familyName=Permatex+Aviation+Form-A-Gasket+No.+3+Sealant
Title: Re: Plumbers tap on Brass Fuel barbs?
Post by: kraw2 on June 04, 2012, 07:34:24 PM
I use Permetex High Temperature Gasket Sealer on the male threads of any gas line fitting.
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