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Title: 1974 Aquasport 246 Center Console Cabin (CCC)
Post by: baycrabber on January 29, 2012, 08:55:18 PM
Hello everyone,

I've been browsing the pictures on this site for hours, but can't seem to find any on the Aquasport that I just purchased.  It seems like a rare boat.  I've never known a boat to have both a center console and cuddy cabin.  It's the best of both worlds.  The boat is definitely a restoration project, but hopefully I can get an early start on it in early Spring.

The boat didn't come with cushions in the cuddy cabin.  It also appears that there is supposed to be a platform in the transom area.  The battery boxes are currently exposed, so I'm assuming that there is some kind of cover for them.  I found an article where it described a casting platform.

Does anyone have any pictures of an Aquasport 246 CCC?  I would greatly appreciate it.


Ray
Title: Re: 1974 Aquasport 246 Center Console Cabin (CCC)
Post by: slvrlng on January 29, 2012, 09:04:48 PM
Wow that is a rare one! I think Jdupree has a information sheet on it. I'll try calling him tomorrow and see if will post up about it. Welcome to the club!!!!
Title: Re: 1974 Aquasport 246 Center Console Cabin (CCC)
Post by: baycrabber on January 29, 2012, 09:08:04 PM
Thank you Slvlng.  I did find an article on my boat on this site.  I'm not sure if it's the same one.  It was very informative.

Thanks for the information!


Ray

Quote from: "slvrlng"
Wow that is a rare one! I think Jdupree has a information sheet on it. I'll try calling him tomorrow and see if will post up about it. Welcome to the club!!!!
Title: Re: 1974 Aquasport 246 Center Console Cabin (CCC)
Post by: baycrabber on January 29, 2012, 09:10:54 PM
Thank you Capt. Bob!  That's definitely it.  I would be great if they had more pictures.  I'll ask.  I can't wait until this boat is restored!

Quote from: "Capt. Bob"
Does it look similar to this?

viewtopic.php?p=35918#p35918 (http://www.classicaquasport.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?p=35918#p35918)

If so, follow the thread and associated links.

May not be your model but...... :idea:

As always,
First one's free. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: 1974 Aquasport 246 Center Console Cabin (CCC)
Post by: baycrabber on January 29, 2012, 09:20:00 PM
Looks like GinoB went with a different boat.  I'll keep looking.....
Title: Re: 1974 Aquasport 246 Center Console Cabin (CCC)
Post by: Fletch170 on January 30, 2012, 08:23:19 AM
Hey guys, there is one for sale up my way.....for 175 bucks.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1974-246 ... 2c62834b7d (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1974-246-AQUASPORT-CENTER-CONSOLE-FISHING-BOAT-/190631332733?pt=Fishing_Boats&hash=item2c62834b7d)
Title: Re: 1974 Aquasport 246 Center Console Cabin (CCC)
Post by: GoneFission on January 30, 2012, 09:10:40 AM
We've seen the NJ boat before.  My vote is that it is one of the elusive 246CCC models, but some folks think it's a FF with the windshield removed and a console installed.  But it does not matter, cuz that's what the CCC was - a FF with no helm station, no windshield, and a console installed.  (A little venturi windshield was actually an option on the CCC).  The console in the pic on eBay is the correct one for this model, so if someone added it, they had to go find a Aquasport console of the correct type and install it.  :wink:  

Hey - at $175  :shock: The price is right!  Good project boat for someone who wants a boat that you can fish and overnight too.
Title: Re: 1974 Aquasport 246 Center Console Cabin (CCC)
Post by: Capt. Bob on January 30, 2012, 10:01:10 AM
I would think that this model (CCC) was Aquasport's counter for a similar model Dusky during that time. A gentleman I worked with for years had that style Dusky.

Just a guess.
Title: Re: 1974 Aquasport 246 Center Console Cabin (CCC)
Post by: baycrabber on January 30, 2012, 10:37:24 PM
Hey guys,

That's actually the boat that I bought.  I found it on eBay last week.  For $175.00 it seemed like a great deal.  It's a huge project, but I've been wanting to start another one for awhile.

Do you know the history of this boat?  I noticed that you said that you've seen it before.  I've compared a bunch of pictures between the 246 CCCs and FFs.  There were several options between each model and between the same model.  This one seems to be the real deal.  The bow rail is an exact match to the stock Aquasport CCC picture.  I found some FFs with the same bow rail though, but most had a shortened bow rail to accomodate for the windshield.  I've also found that not all CCCs and FFs had the portal window.  Some did, some didn't.  I'll know for sure when I pick it up this weekend.  I'll just check the back of where the console should have been mounted.  If there's any noticeable work in that area, then it's most likely a FF.

I'll take pictures when I pick it up.

I hope the title is good!  For $175.00, there must be a catch.


Ray

Quote from: "GoneFission"
We've seen the NJ boat before.  My vote is that it is one of the elusive 246CCC models, but some folks think it's a FF with the windshield removed and a console installed.  But it does not matter, cuz that's what the CCC was - a FF with no helm station, no windshield, and a console installed.  (A little venturi windshield was actually an option on the CCC).  The console in the pic on eBay is the correct one for this model, so if someone added it, they had to go find a Aquasport console of the correct type and install it.  :wink:  

Hey - at $175  :shock: The price is right!  Good project boat for someone who wants a boat that you can fish and overnight too.
Title: Re: 1974 Aquasport 246 Center Console Cabin (CCC)
Post by: gran398 on January 30, 2012, 11:45:54 PM
Ray... for $175...you stole it.

Let me know if you want to double your money. I'll send somebody up there in a New York minute :wink:

Good for you. And welcome aboard.

Hang tight...let us know about her...and great job :thumright:
Title: Re: 1974 Aquasport 246 Center Console Cabin (CCC)
Post by: Circle Hooked on January 30, 2012, 11:50:06 PM
Quote from: "gran398"
Ray... for $175...you stole it.

Ray sounds like a GREAT buy, congrats  :salut:
Title: Re: 1974 Aquasport 246 Center Console Cabin (CCC)
Post by: baycrabber on January 30, 2012, 11:50:29 PM
It seemed like the deal of the century.  I couldn't pass it up.

I'll post a bunch of pics as I'm restoring it.

Thank you!


Quote from: "gran398"
Ray... for $175...you stole it.

Let me know if you want to double your money. I'll send somebody up there in a New York minute :wink:

Good for you. And welcome aboard.

Hang tight...let us know about her...and great job :thumright:
Title: Re: 1974 Aquasport 246 Center Console Cabin (CCC)
Post by: baycrabber on January 30, 2012, 11:51:11 PM
Thanks Scott!

Quote from: "Circle Hooked"
Quote from: "gran398"
Ray... for $175...you stole it.

Ray sounds like a GREAT buy, congrats  :salut:
Title: Re: 1974 Aquasport 246 Center Console Cabin (CCC)
Post by: RickK on January 31, 2012, 05:48:27 AM
When we discussed this boat in the past there was two places of confusion for me that made me think it was a FF
The throttle platform
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e19/rkins/Transformed_CCCpic1.png)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e19/rkins/Transformed_CCCpic.png)

It's still a big boat with lots of potential and you certainly got it for a song.  Congrats  :salut:
Title: Re: 1974 Aquasport 246 Center Console Cabin (CCC)
Post by: baycrabber on January 31, 2012, 07:47:15 AM
Interesting points!  I'm wondering if they kept the platform on the CCC to use as a step down.  Was one of the previous owners on this site?  Any links to the discussion? I didn't find it.

 
Quote from: "RickK"
When we discussed this boat in the past there was two places of confusion for me that made me think it was a FF
The throttle platform
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e19/rkins/Transformed_CCCpic1.png)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e19/rkins/Transformed_CCCpic.png)

It's still a big boat with lots of potential and you certainly got it for a song.  Congrats  :salut:
Title: Re: 1974 Aquasport 246 Center Console Cabin (CCC)
Post by: Fletch170 on January 31, 2012, 08:36:17 AM
Ray,

Awesome stuff man, Def post pictures! I saw this on ebay as well, and thought "what a great fishing platform". I saw the thing was laying in a field for a while, what's the story behind it?

-Fletch
Title: Re: 1974 Aquasport 246 Center Console Cabin (CCC)
Post by: RickK on January 31, 2012, 10:39:11 AM
Quote from: "baycrabber"
Interesting points!  I'm wondering if they kept the platform on the CCC to use as a step down.  Was one of the previous owners on this site?  Any links to the discussion? I didn't find it.
No, it was just a posting on eBay and we monitor ebay for Aquasports - this one caught our eye and we started discussing what we thought it was.
Title: Re: 1974 Aquasport 246 Center Console Cabin (CCC)
Post by: T Race on January 31, 2012, 12:43:52 PM
Cool boat Ray.  

I'll bet you a tall, frosty PBR that you're gonna be lovin' this boat.   :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: 1974 Aquasport 246 Center Console Cabin (CCC)
Post by: GoneFission on January 31, 2012, 04:01:22 PM
Remember the CCC keeps the liner from the FF without the dash/control panel in the front and no windshield.  The port on the sides of most FFs was an option that most had fitted when they were made.  The same option was available on the CCC.   :thumleft:

$175 is an amazing price for this boat, and you can use parts off a FF for replacements except the console - which is a CCP item.  Check the transom and deck for soft spots, do some cleanup and TLC, put a 200/225/250 on her, and you will have a great big-water boat!   :cheers:
Title: Re: 1974 Aquasport 246 Center Console Cabin (CCC)
Post by: baycrabber on January 31, 2012, 05:16:43 PM
Hello Fletch,

I'll post a bunch of pictures during the restoration.  I can't wait to start.

I've owned a cuddy cabin and several center consoles, but to have both in one boat is amazing!  The boat will need a lot of work, but what 70s boat doesn't.  I'm coming from the Mako world and have spent many a night reading the restoration articles on classicmako.com.  Still do!  Now on to classicaquasport.com articles.

Yes, it looks like the boat has been sitting for awhile.  I'll see if the current owner knows the history on the boat.  The CCCs are very interesting.


Ray

Quote from: "Fletch170"
Ray,

Awesome stuff man, Def post pictures! I saw this on ebay as well, and thought "what a great fishing platform". I saw the thing was laying in a field for a while, what's the story behind it?

-Fletch
Title: Re: 1974 Aquasport 246 Center Console Cabin (CCC)
Post by: baycrabber on January 31, 2012, 05:19:51 PM
I already love the boat, so I owe you one!

Quote from: "T Race"
Cool boat Ray.  

I'll bet you a tall, frosty PBR that you're gonna be lovin' this boat.   :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: 1974 Aquasport 246 Center Console Cabin (CCC)
Post by: baycrabber on January 31, 2012, 05:26:59 PM
Well, hopefully, there's no catch to the $175.00.  It's so low that there has to be a catch.  It was worth the risk for the price though.  I haven't picked it up yet, so I don't have my hopes up.  I talked to the owner prior to paying for it through PayPal.  It seems legitimate.  The owner said that the boat has a solid deck and transom.  I'm already planning on replacing both though, since it's improbable that they are solid.

How do the gas tanks hold up in these boats?  Do you think I'll need to replace it?

Thanks for the information on the CCCs.  Judging from the pictures, I'll need the battery box covers, cuddy hatch, and cuddy cushions.  She had sold the leaning post, but I have a new one that I never installed on my last Mako.  It'll fit the boat well.  The console hatch is broken, but I bought a brand new starboard one that should fit great.

If you know anyone with these parts, please let me know.

Thanks again for the info!  Much appreciated.


Ray  

Quote from: "GoneFission"
Remember the CCC keeps the liner from the FF without the dash/control panel in the front and no windshield.  The port on the sides of most FFs was an option that most had fitted when they were made.  The same option was available on the CCC.   :thumleft:

$175 is an amazing price for this boat, and you can use parts off a FF for replacements except the console - which is a CCP item.  Check the transom and deck for soft spots, do some cleanup and TLC, put a 200/225/250 on her, and you will have a great big-water boat!   :cheers:
Title: Re: 1974 Aquasport 246 Center Console Cabin (CCC)
Post by: Fletch170 on January 31, 2012, 09:11:16 PM
SO, from what I gather, these boats are A LOT easier to restore than a Mako. If it's the original tank, it's most likely shot.

The floor is most likely soft, the stringers are soaked, and the transom is worm food. But, besides that, SHIP SHAPE!!!

It's fishing machine, and if you can look past the rough, she's going to be sweet.
Title: Re: 1974 Aquasport 246 Center Console Cabin (CCC)
Post by: baycrabber on January 31, 2012, 09:29:15 PM
That's it!  Piece of cake!  Ha ha!  I figured all of the above, especially since it's a 1974.

I started reading some of the restoration posts.  What exactly is a liner?  Is that an Aquasport term?  I've never heard of that.  It was mentioned earlier in this post that the 246 CCC used the FF liner, but I wasn't sure what that was.  I don't believe Makos have a liner or we must call it something different.

Ray

Quote from: "Fletch170"
SO, from what I gather, these boats are A LOT easier to restore than a Mako. If it's the original tank, it's most likely shot.

The floor is most likely soft, the stringers are soaked, and the transom is worm food. But, besides that, SHIP SHAPE!!!

It's fishing machine, and if you can look past the rough, she's going to be sweet.
Title: Re: 1974 Aquasport 246 Center Console Cabin (CCC)
Post by: GoneFission on January 31, 2012, 09:42:24 PM
The liner is the molded fiberglass piece that makes up the topside and inside of the boat.  It sits on the hull for side support and the stringers for deck support.  Aquasport hulls are made up of 3 basic sections - hull, stringers, and liner.  Here's an illustration from a 70s vintage ad that shows the hull, liner, and stringers:

(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j7/GoneFission/AquasportHullConstruction001.jpg)
Title: Re: 1974 Aquasport 246 Center Console Cabin (CCC)
Post by: Circle Hooked on January 31, 2012, 09:43:47 PM
Inner Liner, it's the finished mold thats dropped in over the bare hull, the deck of the boat is part of it along with molded in rod storage ect.

Capt John beat me to it but i like his example better.
Title: Re: 1974 Aquasport 246 Center Console Cabin (CCC)
Post by: T Race on February 01, 2012, 01:09:24 AM
Quote from: "T Race"
Cool boat Ray.  

I'll bet you a tall, frosty PBR that you're gonna be lovin' this boat.   :lol:  :lol:


Quote from: "baycrabber"
I already love the boat, so I owe you one!


You're  a'owen'  and  I'm a'drankin'.....   this might be the start of a beautiful relationship !! :wink:
Title: Re: 1974 Aquasport 246 Center Console Cabin (CCC)
Post by: baycrabber on February 01, 2012, 04:31:19 AM
Hey guys,

Thanks for the descriptions on the liner.  I fully understand now.  I've always called that the cap, but the cap could just refer to the top part and not the deck.  I learned something new.

I have some bad news!  The lady that sold me the boat said that she gave it away to her father's friend.  I'm very disappointed.  I knew there was a catch!  She must have realized that it was worth more than $175.00.

I'm not sure if she can legally do that, since I already paid for it.  She refunded my money through PayPal, but I'd rather have the boat.  Does anyone know if she had the right to resell the boat?
Title: Re: 1974 Aquasport 246 Center Console Cabin (CCC)
Post by: gran398 on February 01, 2012, 07:44:53 AM
Quote from: "baycrabber"
Hey guys,

Thanks for the descriptions on the liner.  I fully understand now.  I've always called that the cap, but the cap could just refer to the top part and not the deck.  I learned something new.

I have some bad news!  The lady that sold me the boat said that she gave it away to her father's friend.  I'm very disappointed.  I knew there was a catch!  She must have realized that it was worth more than $175.00.

I'm not sure if she can legally do that, since I already paid for it.  She refunded my money through PayPal, but I'd rather have the boat.  Does anyone know if she had the right to resell the boat?


Hi,

No telling what she was up to. Welcome to the dark side :roll: Found out the hard way that the Golden Rule isn't the first rule when buying boats.

Since the boat was never titled to you...legally, you have no recourse.

But no worries...we'll find you one :lol:
Title: Re: 1974 Aquasport 246 Center Console Cabin (CCC)
Post by: baycrabber on February 01, 2012, 12:18:52 PM
If found a guy with an Aquasport and a couple of Makos for sale.  I'm setting something up now for this weekend.  I'll be pulling something home this weekend :)  Unfortunately, it isn't my 246 CCC.

Quote from: "gran398"
Quote from: "baycrabber"
Hey guys,

Thanks for the descriptions on the liner.  I fully understand now.  I've always called that the cap, but the cap could just refer to the top part and not the deck.  I learned something new.

I have some bad news!  The lady that sold me the boat said that she gave it away to her father's friend.  I'm very disappointed.  I knew there was a catch!  She must have realized that it was worth more than $175.00.

I'm not sure if she can legally do that, since I already paid for it.  She refunded my money through PayPal, but I'd rather have the boat.  Does anyone know if she had the right to resell the boat?


Hi,

No telling what she was up to. Welcome to the dark side :roll: Found out the hard way that the Golden Rule isn't the first rule when buying boats.

Since the boat was never titled to you...legally, you have no recourse.

But no worries...we'll find you one :lol:
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