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Title: flush mounted bow/running lights
Post by: love2fish on November 03, 2011, 08:02:47 PM
Whats the best brand of the flush mounted running lights? Not the topside/cap style, but the hullside style.  I think I have read about them being called "shark eye" running lights.

Thanks
Title: Re: flush mounted bow/running lights
Post by: Mike C on November 03, 2011, 08:12:44 PM
Like these ? Not USCG Approved , but a lot brighter , keep the top one and run as Aux lights.

(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/167039_144623115592060_141188082602230_217897_6850897_n.jpg)
Title: Re: flush mounted bow/running lights
Post by: gran398 on November 03, 2011, 09:48:44 PM
Mike, thanks, and welcome to the club!

Those are very nice, and although not legal, for sure safety oriented.

Could you post a link? Thanks.
Title: Re: flush mounted bow/running lights
Post by: seabob4 on November 03, 2011, 09:54:39 PM
A lot of the "legality" comes down to whether the water cop had a good couple a doughnuts that morning.  The typical "shark eyes", mounted in the hull, are illegal, based on CG requirements.  However, most CG guys will ignore that aspect, unless they have had a stale doughnut...

While I'm not going to look it up for you, google CFR 33, find the specs on nav light placement, it will answer the legality of the subject...
Title: Re: flush mounted bow/running lights
Post by: Blue Agave on November 04, 2011, 06:24:36 AM
My experience with the "snake eye" lights is that they always get water in them. I prefer the pop up light from Accon.
Title: Re: flush mounted bow/running lights
Post by: HIFLUTIN on November 04, 2011, 07:36:35 AM
I was gonna ask the same ?
Had them on my 22' Pathfinder from the factory & never had a prob.
Want to put them on my 17.
Title: Re: flush mounted bow/running lights
Post by: GoneFission on November 04, 2011, 11:06:54 AM
"Snake Eye" side lights are legal on boats less than 12 meters (39.4 feet) if installed correctly.  They must be visible for at least 112.5 degrees to the side of the bow centerline.
Title: Re: flush mounted bow/running lights
Post by: love2fish on November 04, 2011, 02:30:06 PM
maybe im using the wrong descrition. Are you saying that the bow running lights that mgfs like Key West, Pathfinder, Shearwater, ect... are all illegal?
Title: Re: flush mounted bow/running lights
Post by: GoneFission on November 04, 2011, 05:07:44 PM
Quote from: "love2fish"
maybe im using the wrong descrition. Are you saying that the bow running lights that mgfs like Key West, Pathfinder, Shearwater, ect... are all illegal?

No, they are legal and USCG approved.
Title: Re: flush mounted bow/running lights
Post by: Mike C on November 04, 2011, 05:50:53 PM
Those are LED from Bluewater LED . I am a Rep / Dealer for new England.I use the 8" 12 led lights . Here is the link to the main site
http://www.bluewaterled.com/ (http://www.bluewaterled.com/)    or contact me a nebluewaterled@yahoo.com       Thanks
Title: Re: flush mounted bow/running lights
Post by: Capt Matt on November 04, 2011, 09:00:59 PM
http://www.twinsrecreation.com/Boat-Nav ... 54314.html (http://www.twinsrecreation.com/Boat-Navigation-Lights-SS-Flush-Mount-Side-Lights-Pr_p_54314.html)

This style light is awesome for running at night as you never see them from inside the boat. I had them on my flatsboat and loved them. If you could find them in LED that would be even better
Capt Matt
Title: Re: flush mounted bow/running lights
Post by: Mike C on November 09, 2011, 06:56:01 PM
Here is Some on my New to Me 17' Osprey
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s320x320/312751_243901342330903_141188082602230_606745_647676841_n.jpg)

(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s320x320/304147_243900822330955_141188082602230_606744_1164934800_n.jpg)

(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s320x320/389520_243899832331054_141188082602230_606743_1122588708_n.jpg)
Title: Re: flush mounted bow/running lights
Post by: gran398 on November 09, 2011, 07:00:27 PM
Mike, very impressive! Could you show a pic of how they look in the daylight...turned off. Thank you sir!
Title: Re: flush mounted bow/running lights
Post by: seabob4 on November 09, 2011, 07:11:57 PM
Not to say I have done the total research, but this is from newboatbuilder.com...


Quote
The most common violation concerning navigation lights is improper mounting of the lights.  Follow the manufacturers instructions to the letter.   Makes sure the the lights are properly aligned with the centerline of the boat.   Do not mount lights below the sheer line of the boat. Lights mounted below the sheer line cannot meet the vertical sector requirements.  See note below.

Clarification: The Inland Navigation Rules do not speak to lights mounted below the hull so they are permitted.  The International Rules do speak to lights mounted below the sheer. It says :

The sidelights of a power-driven vessel shall be placed at a height above the hull not greater than three quarters of that of the forward masthead light. They shall not be so low as to be interfered with by deck lights.
This means you cannot have the sidelights below the sheer line of the hull on a boat configured for international rules.  I repeat, on boats configured for inland rules you can use bullseye type lights below the sheer line, but it is extremely difficult to make them comply with the vertical and horizontal sectors and cutoff angles.  

Just saying, there are CG regs out there point out the issues with "shark eye" type lights...

Why do I feel like a party pooper?
Title: Re: flush mounted bow/running lights
Post by: gran398 on November 09, 2011, 07:37:13 PM
Naw mon, good post. It is what it is.

My feeling is that the lights Mike reps are a terrific safety feature, and although not legal....certainly an attention grabber.

We have ALL been on the water on a dark night, squinting, looking...and damn...if you even see a boat running toward you full-bore...honestly, you pick up the bow light almost at the last. And it looks WEIRD.

These lights he has shown could potentially make a big difference.

I've seen the aftermath of a boat collision, 30 seconds after the fact. Hope you guys never witness one.
Title: Re: flush mounted bow/running lights
Post by: Mike C on November 10, 2011, 04:37:04 PM
Here Is a Pic with them off - my last boat I installed them in the rubrail but didn't feel like cutting the insert this time , plus below will keep the light out of my sight. All the guys I know who run them on Bass Boats have never been ticketed and even have been told how much brighter they are. plus fishing with a friend this summer took a wave to the bow and it burnt out his reg Nav light so haveing a set of the Bluewaters would have been a bonus, Have a set for the two boats he uses.

(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s320x320/295879_244322412288796_141188082602230_607588_174845504_n.jpg)
Title: Re: flush mounted bow/running lights
Post by: Aswaff400 on November 10, 2011, 08:41:48 PM
Quote from: "gran398"

I've seen the aftermath of a boat collision, 30 seconds after the fact. Hope you guys never witness one.

ive seen one 15 minutes after... something that will be etched in my memory forever...
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