Classic AquaSport
General Aquasport Forums => Aquasport Discussion => Topic started by: 210xf on November 01, 2011, 06:46:44 PM
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Looking to purchase a 1990 210 XF Aquasport with a 1989 200HP Mariner. Is any one familiar with this model? Looking forward to any information Thanks and great site!
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210XF ? really I didn't know they made one... I'd like to see pics of it.
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Maybe it's an Explorer?
Pics would help.
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Very interesting.
Worthless post without pics but......
I own a 91 and since I haven't run across a 90, I look forward to a pic of the HIN.
May be a 89 XF hull assembled in Bradenton or the same hull as mine and Fearless Leader's 230 (just 2 feet shorter).
Does it have the original decals on the cabin? 210 WALKAROUND maybe?
Look like this?
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff108/r-berlin/LobsterSeason2011095.jpg)
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Bob,
Would you say your 210 is a transition model between the XF models and the Explorers? It's hard to see but it looks like you have full depth side walk arounds similar to my XF.
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Very interesting.
Look like this?
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff108/r-berlin/LobsterSeason2011095.jpg)
Yup - looks just like mine :lol:
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Bob,
Would you say your 210 is a transition model between the XF models and the Explorers? It's hard to see but it looks like you have full depth side walk arounds similar to my XF.
In name yes. It's labeled as a Walkaround rather than Explorer. Rick's 230 is the same hull and cap with 2 additional feet added in the stern as my 210. His however carries the EXPLORER name and I believe that year (92) is the first named EX model.
However, while our two vessels are the same (LOA withstanding) both hull and cap are different on our models than those from the Hialeah Express Fisherman model like yours.
So, while Genmar searched for a marketing name during this time, they kept the hull and cap the same. That design change may have been influenced by the Wellcrafts being built in the same plant (a WAG) but no doubt, the 91-93 models are different from the older XF models in both name and design. I've been searching for a 90 to see when the change (90 or 91) actually took place.
Our model is shallower (I believe) than yours. I have two steps from the main deck.
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Here are some pics, Hope they work:
(http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n545/jasonalonso113/aquasport210xfIMAG_0058.jpg)
(http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n545/jasonalonso113/aquasport210fx90IMAG_0059.jpg)
(http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n545/jasonalonso113/1990aquasport210fxIMAG_0062.jpg)
(http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n545/jasonalonso113/1990Aquasport210fxIMAG_0064.jpg)
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Whoa! Never seen one like that! I would say that is a definite transition model. Notice the lack of the "wings" on either side of the helm. It has a single step up to a deep walk around. Interesting boat.
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Oh my. :o
Right color combination on the decal stripes.
I'd really like to see a closeup of the HIN plate on the transom and possibly the Coast Guard capacity sticker (possibly located in the helm area) or maybe that's it on the inside port gunwale in the second pic?
I've seen Aquas of this era with the numbers (210) shaped like that.
Could this be the missing link. :idea:
http://boatspecs.iboats.com/Aquasport__ ... bp/66b4270 (http://boatspecs.iboats.com/Aquasport__210_XF_Bracket__1990/bp/66b4270)
Any more photos?
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sorry no more pics until at least Sunday,thats when i will go look at the boat again and get to crank it up. What do you guys think? Think its worth $6K if all checks out, The gel coat is mint very little scratches and I only noticed 1 gel coat stress crack on the floor in front of the cabin door. Also have you guys had any experience with Mariner outboard motors? This vessel has a 1989 200hp mariner Is this the same as a blackmax, also looks pretty clean on the inside, although I did notice some water in the bottom of the pan.
(http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n545/jasonalonso113/89Mariner200hpaquasport210fxIMAG_0063.jpg)
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That boat is a carbon copy of a 230C Sea Ox, albeit a bit shorter. Always admired that design; unrestricted quick movement forward, no wings to block forward access.
Biddison made a similarly styled version in a 21 footer, early eighties...betcha SB remembers.
210...wouldn't be hasty at 6K. Its a buyers market right now.
Where are you located...maybe a member can ride with you :thumright:
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Boat is located in Miami, FL. Also this boat reminds me of the Dusky FAC Walk Around model. I would really like to put a leaning post/live well combo instead of the dual chairs.
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That would be a natural progression. User-friendly.
Main thing...check the transom, decks....sea-trial her...then walk away for the time being.
Negotiation is a spice of life.
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Definitely a transition model - helm area is almost like a center console.
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I'm curious as to where this hull was built. If you can, would you be so kind as to see if it is readable on the Coast Guard capacity sticker. Past indications would be at the Wellcraft plant in Bradenton/Sarasota but I wonder. :scratch: A little farther north may be in order. Just thinking out loud.
As to the engine, I can't speak. I'm sure the pistonheads will be along soon. I do know a close friend had one on his Seacraft and it ran really well but that can be said, at one time or another for all brands.
Thanks and we'll be waiting for the pics. :thumleft:
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I'm sure Fitz would know for sure, but I think the motor is a 2.5 liter model, and Black Max motors were generally 2.4. Mercury really does not go by year model - they go by serial number, so the same serial number could be a 1989 or a 1990 depending on when it was sold. However, the motor does look clean. Run a compression check and see if you get consistent values from one cylinder to another - all 6 should be within 10 PSI or so of each other. The motor should start up well and idle smoothly - rough idle or missing is a sign of problems that can cost some $$$. Check for shifting from forward and reverse and check for leaks or cracks in the lower unit/gearbox. These Mercs are pretty trouble-free when they run - problems are usually pretty obvious.
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I think the 2.5L came out in 1991
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Found another 210XF for sale in Mattituck, NY with a blown Merc. Boat shows listed as a 1987 Aquasport Walkaround. check it out: http://www.boattrader.com/listing/1987- ... d-99957912 (http://www.boattrader.com/listing/1987-Aquasport-21-Walkaround-99957912)
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Here is the HIN#
(http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n545/jasonalonso113/IMAG_0072-1.jpg)
I cranked up the motor today and Pressure Checked it as well and all 6 came in at 120-125. Only concern was that it took about 2-3 min for the motor to start peeing at the top and when it did the water was coming out steaming hot, approx. 160 degrees as we collected the water coming out into a cup and put a thermometer in there. The seller said that it may be the impeller that needs replacing. What do you guys think?
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210,
I'm not a Mariner guy but you'll get you answers. Johnson/Evinrude/Yamaha could very well be the impeller because water should flow through these motors just after start up (couple of seconds). Changing the impeller/thermostats/pressure relief valve would be SOP on this or any motor new to you so probably not a deal breaker.
By now I'm sure you realize we are not real familiar with this hull. I haven't seen it before but that really doesn't mean anything. I can't make out the first letters in the HIN. Do you know what they are?
Also, I looked at the "87" you linked to; looks like you type hull also so...
If you can find the capacity plate and see where the hull was built, that will be great information for the Forum. You may have stumbled on to the real transition WAC hull between the late 80's and early 90s.
As far as build quality, ride and performance, this is all new to me anyway. I'm learning just like you.
Good luck and you just may wind up with a rarer model than most. :thumleft:
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If your running the motor on muffs and it hasn't been run in a while it may take a moment for the cooling system to fill up. If you buy the boat I would recommend what Bob says and replace the impeller, t-states, fuel pump diaphragms and poppet valve. This way you know what you are starting off with. Also a set of plugs, fuel filter and service the lower unit too.
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Good advice on the engine to do list. Go through it to establish a maintenance base line. The 2.5 was a very good engine and at on time was "the" engine to hop up and race. Very durable and with a lttle care would last many years. Your compression numbers seem right where they need to be. As with all older engines; check the entire fuel system for hardened or brittle fuel lines and replace. Replace the water separating fuel filter in the boat and inline fuel filter in the engine. The lack of water out of the discharge except a trickle was kind of normal on these because the discharge hose(s) were attached to the thermostat housing base and didn't start to flow until the thermostats began to to open which is what you experianced. The engine has two thermostats, one on each cylinder head the should be replaced when you do the waterpump.
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The lack of water out of the discharge except a trickle was kind of normal on these because the discharge hose(s) were attached to the thermostat housing base and didn't start to flow until the thermostats began to to open which is what you experianced.
Thanks Fitz & CJ. :salut:
I told ya the pistonheads would know the answer. Looks like the power plant is good.
Anything more on the hull itself?
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I just looked at the boat spec sheet provided by Capt'n Bob. That hull weighed 3100#? What a tank! I would be curious of what propeller pitch and WOT rpm she is hitting. I cant imagine her turning more than a 17 pitch and turning more than 5300 rpm. Thats alot of boat for a single 200 if the weight is right?
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I h ave a 17" prop on my 200 XF and I can turn 5600 RPM or more... I doubt that thing would weigh much more than my XF does. Also my 200 doesn't pee very much until the t-states open up... and when it does it's hot water
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Thanks guys for all of your information and guidance! I am supposed to be picking up the boat this Saturday and I will then start to go through the motor. As for being a heavy hull, it sure lokks loke it as its very beamy. I will keep you guys posted with any other pics once I get her. Thanks again!