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Aquasport Model Rebuilds, Mods, Updates and Refreshes => Osprey Style Hull Rebuilds => 246 Rebuilds => Topic started by: pairomedicsfish on September 20, 2011, 05:17:21 PM

Title: 240/246 Inboard Rebuild
Post by: pairomedicsfish on September 20, 2011, 05:17:21 PM
Well, I am going back at it after getting daughter one halfway through college......I have a 246 CC with a straight inboard......all wiring has been replaced, before a long layup....almost all of the plumbing as well........tomorrow starts the re-cleaning of everything, inventory of wire set up, plumbing and what is in need of finishing....then on to the floor.....

Does anyone have pics of their inboard 240?..
Title: Re: 240/246 Inboard Rebuild
Post by: GoneFission on September 20, 2011, 08:03:56 PM
Do a search for JimCt posts - he as an I/O 240 and an straight inboard 22-2.  Those pics may help a bit.  

Good luck!
Title: Re: 240/246 Inboard Rebuild
Post by: pairomedicsfish on September 20, 2011, 08:23:54 PM
Will do.....I am actually unsure of my model. Title says 24 foot....it is a straight inboard centre console......can't find any images online....
Title: Re: 240/246 Inboard Rebuild
Post by: RickK on September 21, 2011, 05:36:12 AM
Pics would help.  Does it have any badges on the sides of the hull in the rear?
http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showgallery.php/cat/545
Title: Re: 240/246 Inboard Rebuild
Post by: pairomedicsfish on September 21, 2011, 07:14:11 AM
No badges, as the boat has been painted over the years. I will try to get some pics up....
Title: Re: 240/246 Inboard Rebuild
Post by: pairomedicsfish on September 21, 2011, 07:33:38 AM
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v187/ ... no%20flash (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v187/pairomedicsfish/?action=view&current=Image068.jpg&mediafilter=no%20flash)
Title: Re: 240/246 Inboard Rebuild
Post by: Capt. Bob on September 21, 2011, 08:27:28 AM
Looks like a 240 Sea Hunter with factory tower.

There was one for sale in our Classified forum and was subsequently bought by a member here. They (I thought) started a rebuild thread but I can't seem to find it. Another(?) member posted awhile back asking about advice on changing the inboard gas motor to diesel so...
There are members with this model on board.

Title: Re: 240/246 Inboard Rebuild
Post by: pairomedicsfish on September 21, 2011, 08:50:57 AM
Very cool! Mine looks liken the 22-2 IB in one of the ads. Inam getting thentape measure out to cheek the LOA.....getting ready to get at it for the day....... :afro:
Title: Re: 240/246 Inboard Rebuild
Post by: LilRichard on September 21, 2011, 11:42:11 AM
Is that boat down in the Palm Beach area?  I too remember seeing one that color... just curious!
Title: Re: 240/246 Inboard Rebuild
Post by: pairomedicsfish on September 21, 2011, 01:00:26 PM
Used to be in Jupiter.
Title: Re: 240/246 Inboard Rebuild
Post by: LilRichard on September 21, 2011, 02:15:36 PM
I do know that boat.  It was CaptTater's old ride, no?  That thing has a ton of potential, good luck!
Title: Re: 240/246 Inboard Rebuild
Post by: pairomedicsfish on September 21, 2011, 02:49:45 PM
Yes, Tater and I entered into a purchase agreement a few Years ago. I started the restore, then had a financial disaster....in addition, several life changing family problems arose and I put my daughter in college....long story short....the boat went into storage and Tater gave a pass on our arrangment......now it's time to finish the boat, restart my commitment and get on with life.  :cheers:
Title: Re: 240/246 Inboard Rebuild
Post by: orb on September 21, 2011, 03:03:42 PM
I have a early 70's 240 that I am(slowly) rebuilding. Mine is the seahunter, with the side console and little cabin up front. It appears that mine was an io originally, then it was changed to an outboard, an OMC seadrive. I am going to rebuild mine back as a diesel center console. I am going to leave the cuddy upfront, and shorten the bench seats up front. Kinda like a Dorado 30'.

http://www.thehulltruth.com/boat-commer ... 995-a.html (http://www.thehulltruth.com/boat-commercial-classifieds-marine-services/295815-1993-dorado-30-center-console-center-reduced-29-995-a.html)

kinda like that boat. I want to put a prop pocket on the transom to make it a little shallower draft. I want to put an old 453T detroit under the console. I thought about jackshafting it back to an outdrive, but those engines will make alot of torque, any diesel does, and I hear that they will break an outdrive.

I really want a drive similar to this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U60rx06Dmtk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U60rx06Dmtk)
that seems to be an articulating surface unit, running a subsurface prop, just behind a nice size prop pocket. I cannot justify the $$ for an articulating drive like that...but I would sure love one. I think that guy built his own.
Title: Re: 240/246 Inboard Rebuild
Post by: pairomedicsfish on September 21, 2011, 03:53:44 PM
I am hoping to have this boat done inside of three months. We will see! I ran a tape measure over her....23' 8". No cuddy like the Sea Hunt.....inboard 350 under the console, forward casting deck with two lockers and a fish box in the floor......when she is done, she will have new lighter colored paint, teak covering boards on the gunnels, ice blue colored interior paint with slightly darker or lighter nonskid, tower with controls and instead of the console, I am considering a low profile motor box with cushion.... :thumright:
Title: Re: 240/246 Inboard Rebuild
Post by: orb on September 21, 2011, 05:43:35 PM
Yours looks like the 240 center console. That is a nice looking hull, the colors you are talking about will look good on the hull.

This link is to a    terntwo 24's photogallery. The gallery for this site is broken, and you cannot search, but I found this one a while back.
You can message him for info on his boat, he gave me a few tips on mine. He has a 240 center console...in the picture.

http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery ... all/page/1 (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/1682/sort/1/cat/all/page/1)
Title: Re: 240/246 Inboard Rebuild
Post by: pairomedicsfish on September 21, 2011, 06:36:00 PM
Thats it!  Mine has a full, folding tower and the teak gunwales.....I am seriously considering eliminating the console and replacing it with a motor box, running the boat from the tower controls....thoughts?
Title: Re: 240/246 Inboard Rebuild
Post by: RickK on September 21, 2011, 07:33:50 PM
You can cruise through the photo gallery by going through the pages at the bottom.  Not very elegant but it works.
Title: Re: 240/246 Inboard Rebuild
Post by: LilRichard on September 22, 2011, 09:13:07 AM
Quote from: "pairomedicsfish"
Thats it!  Mine has a full, folding tower and the teak gunwales.....I am seriously considering eliminating the console and replacing it with a motor box, running the boat from the tower controls....thoughts?

Ehhhh... I think if the seas kick up bad you might regret that.  I understand the thought process, but driving from up top in big seas is no fun.
Title: Re: 240/246 Inboard Rebuild
Post by: seabob4 on September 22, 2011, 09:16:56 AM
Quote from: "LilRichard"
Quote from: "pairomedicsfish"
Thats it!  Mine has a full, folding tower and the teak gunwales.....I am seriously considering eliminating the console and replacing it with a motor box, running the boat from the tower controls....thoughts?

Ehhhh... I think if the seas kick up bad you might regret that.  I understand the thought process, but driving from up top in big seas is no fun.

This is VERY true! :shock:  :shock:
Title: Re: 240/246 Inboard Rebuild
Post by: pairomedicsfish on September 22, 2011, 09:41:28 AM
Not much different than being on a flybridge.....or is it?
Title: Re: 240/246 Inboard Rebuild
Post by: flounderpounder225 on September 22, 2011, 10:11:53 AM
Quote from: "orb353"
I have a early 70's 240 that I am(slowly) rebuilding. Mine is the seahunter, with the side console and little cabin up front. It appears that mine was an io originally, then it was changed to an outboard, an OMC seadrive. I am going to rebuild mine back as a diesel center console. I am going to leave the cuddy upfront, and shorten the bench seats up front. Kinda like a Dorado 30'.

http://www.thehulltruth.com/boat-commer ... 995-a.html (http://www.thehulltruth.com/boat-commercial-classifieds-marine-services/295815-1993-dorado-30-center-console-center-reduced-29-995-a.html)

kinda like that boat. I want to put a prop pocket on the transom to make it a little shallower draft. I want to put an old 453T detroit under the console. I thought about jackshafting it back to an outdrive, but those engines will make alot of torque, any diesel does, and I hear that they will break an outdrive.

I really want a drive similar to this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U60rx06Dmtk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U60rx06Dmtk)
that seems to be an articulating surface unit, running a subsurface prop, just behind a nice size prop pocket. I cannot justify the $$ for an articulating drive like that...but I would sure love one. I think that guy built his own.

Watch the government liquidations and any DRMO's that might be in your area, the 4-53 was a very popular diesel in the military, and especially in the Navy.  The 3-53, 4-53 is all I worked on for 22 years active duty, and still maintaining them everyday in our shop.  Everyone of these engines is at least 20 years old, and still going strong, have never seen any catastrophic internal failures, just normal accessory failures.
Title: Re: 240/246 Inboard Rebuild
Post by: orb on September 22, 2011, 10:50:12 AM
Thanks flounderpounder225
I have had a few machines that had the 53 and 71 series detroits in them. I had one, a 353N, that ran low on oil, ran hot, blew the head gasket. I tore the engine down. I put new liners, pistons, rings, rods and main and rod bearings in it. I did not change the cam bearings, several were spinning, but I just left them. That joker ran strong for years after that, and I ran it wide open all day, every day. Those engines just wont quit.

That is why I want one in my boat. But I want to find a marinized one. I am afraid of trying to marinize myself.
I am not to the point where I looking actively for an engine, but if I come across a good deal, I will pick it up. I really want a 453 TI, that one runs about 200 hp. Thanks for the info.
 
I do really like the tower on the 240 under discussion here, although I do agree, that driving from that height in rough weather could be very rough. Having a lower station would be a must for me.
Title: Re: 240/246 Inboard Rebuild
Post by: Mark Sr on September 22, 2011, 11:24:47 AM
Here's some photos of my 1976 SeaHunter 240

(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/OBX1951/1976%20aquasport/aquasport1-2-1.jpg)

(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/OBX1951/1976%20aquasport/DSC00738.jpg)

(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/OBX1951/1976%20aquasport/DSC00734.jpg)
Title: Re: 240/246 Inboard Rebuild
Post by: LilRichard on September 22, 2011, 11:55:07 AM
Quote from: "pairomedicsfish"
Not much different than being on a flybridge.....or is it?


It is the same thing, but the term "flybridge" normally applies to much larger boats.  While the 240 is a very seaworthy boat, a 31 Bertram it is not!  Your choice though...
Title: Re: 240/246 Inboard Rebuild
Post by: pairomedicsfish on September 22, 2011, 12:28:50 PM
I get your poin exactly....My plan is to rig the boat for tower only.....with a pigtail set up ti plug into the console. I am not removing any of the steering components.
Title: Re: 240/246 Inboard Rebuild
Post by: LilRichard on September 22, 2011, 03:34:19 PM
Interesting.  So you could run form either place by moving the throttle?
Title: Re: 240/246 Inboard Rebuild
Post by: pairomedicsfish on September 22, 2011, 04:20:12 PM
The lower station steering cable would be secured in the engine room, the wire harness going up to the tower would have a pigtail also in the engine room. If I wanted to put the console in, I would just remove the motor box, drop in the console, plug it in, connect the steering cable and the shift trottle cables. Not a process that you choose to do on a day to day basis, but I can run the boat from the tower for a while, if I don't like it or plan to fish way offshore, the I can add the console. This boat will only have a tach, temp and oil pressure gauge....a GPS/plotter, compass and two vhf radios......a very simple system.  That's kinda where I am at. By not doing a console there would be tons more room on deck, and I can be done with the re build quicker......then later, build out the console, maybe with a teak console pod, Rybo style......
Title: Re: 240/246 Inboard Rebuild
Post by: Capt Matt on September 22, 2011, 05:57:05 PM
Docking from only one upper station is no fun either, running up and down to grab the lines.
Capt Matt
Title: Re: 240/246 Inboard Rebuild
Post by: gran398 on November 01, 2011, 03:14:28 PM
Hi orb,

The link you posted to the articulating surface drive....that boat is from Middle Sound, about 5 miles as the crow flies from my house.

I'd be happy to find out who owns her, and put you in touch with him. Just give a holler.
Title: Re: 240/246 Inboard Rebuild
Post by: orb on November 03, 2011, 11:02:07 AM
gran398,
I think it is owned by a guy named Eric RYDZEWSKI. I tried sending him an email, but no reply. I am facebook friends with John Riggs, the guy who helped him with the boat, although I am not a "real" friend, just in facebook land. The way I understand it, he built the drive to, patented it, and was going to try to manufacture them. I just read info on the internet, in various places, that insinuated that. I have not asked Riggs about it, just because I do not want to infringe on the guys cool product. I would love to see it up close. If you are over that way, and can take a pic or two would be awesome. Although, I think the drive is mainly below the water line. I am not really working on my 240 in a hurry. I am repairing the stringers now, where they have separated from the hull, then I will cut them open and pull the old foam out and refill them, so I have quite a bit of work to go before I get to the point to where I am configuring a drive for it.  But, any info would be appreciated. If you can get his number or info, I will give him a call and see if he will share information.
thanks
Title: Re: 240/246 Inboard Rebuild
Post by: gran398 on November 03, 2011, 12:44:46 PM
You got it. I grew up in Middle Sound...live just N of there now. I'll check with some guys and get back to you.

Hang tight 8)
Title: Re: 240/246 Inboard Rebuild
Post by: RickK on November 03, 2011, 06:30:08 PM
Quote from: "gran398"
I grew up in Middle Sound...
I thought you never grew up  :roll:
Title: Re: 240/246 Inboard Rebuild
Post by: Capt. Bob on November 03, 2011, 06:47:51 PM
He has grown older though. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: 240/246 Inboard Rebuild
Post by: gran398 on November 03, 2011, 09:42:01 PM
Quote from: "RickK"
Quote from: "gran398"
I grew up in Middle Sound...
I thought you never grew up  :roll:


Hey Tinkerbell...don't you believe in Peter Pan?

You gotta  believe. If you don't...you'll turn into a pumpkin at midnight :lol:
Title: Re: 240/246 Inboard Rebuild
Post by: gran398 on November 07, 2011, 02:27:48 PM
orb,

I have the information.

Yes, his name is Eric R___. He is a mechanical engineer here in town. His boat is four slips north of where I kept a boat a few years back.

Just spoke with him. His shallow water drive system was patented exactly when the boatbuilding  industry tanked. He still holds the patent, but no offers to purchase at present.

Very nice gentleman. He would be pleased to help you. I have pm'd to you his cell #. Mentioned that you would be calling.
Just reference the Wilmington guy from Classic Aquasport.

Hope this is not considered "thread derailment" by the author. Only trying to help a member. Thanks.
Title: Re: 240/246 Inboard Rebuild
Post by: Capt Matt on November 07, 2011, 05:46:30 PM
Is the drive a lot different than a Arson surface drive which I have seen on go fast diesel boats?
I know Nor-Tech, which are made in Cape Coral FL makes go fast diesel boats for the military with the drives.
Capt Matt
Title: Re: 240/246 Inboard Rebuild
Post by: orb on November 08, 2011, 09:59:14 AM
WOw, thanks. I will give him a call. I really appreciate it.
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