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Title: Fishin' Jersey Style
Post by: Capt. Bill on August 31, 2011, 06:57:47 PM
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A pair of 5 lb fluke I caught last week


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A 22 lb striper from last fall
Title: Re: Fishin' Jersey Style
Post by: Blue Agave on August 31, 2011, 07:24:30 PM
Yum!  :thumleft:
Title: Re: Fishin' Jersey Style
Post by: RickK on August 31, 2011, 07:33:00 PM
Nice flounders - striper too :salut:
Title: Re: Fishin' Jersey Style
Post by: pete on August 31, 2011, 07:54:21 PM
nice work,Bill :cheers:
Title: Re: Fishin' Jersey Style
Post by: seabob4 on August 31, 2011, 08:23:11 PM
Quote from: "RickK"
Nice flounders - striper too :salut:

Sorry Bill, you know we call them flounder down here...

Beauty fish!  And to think, we only consider Jersey when we think of chemical plants and dead mobsters!! :shock:  :shock:
Title: Re: Fishin' Jersey Style
Post by: Blue Agave on August 31, 2011, 08:30:18 PM
Quote from: "seabob4"
Quote from: "RickK"
Nice flounders - striper too :salut:

Sorry Bill, you know we call them flounder down here...

Beauty fish!  And to think, we only consider Jersey when we think of chemical plants and dead mobsters!! :shock:  :shock:

Come on Bob, don't you that Jersey is the "Garden State"
Title: Re: Fishin' Jersey Style
Post by: seabob4 on August 31, 2011, 08:31:37 PM
Quote from: "Blue Agave"
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Quote from: "RickK"
Nice flounders - striper too :salut:

Sorry Bill, you know we call them flounder down here...

Beauty fish!  And to think, we only consider Jersey when we think of chemical plants and dead mobsters!! :shock:  :shock:

Come on Bob, don't you that Jersey is the "Garden State"

Would that be "pushin' daisies"?? :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Fishin' Jersey Style
Post by: Circle Hooked on September 01, 2011, 07:51:55 PM
Nice job on the flounder(fluke) good eats there.
Title: Re: Fishin' Jersey Style
Post by: Capt. Bill on September 01, 2011, 09:27:28 PM
Quote from: "seabob4"
Quote from: "RickK"
Nice flounders - striper too :salut:

Sorry Bill, you know we call them flounder down here...

Beauty fish!  And to think, we only consider Jersey when we think of chemical plants and dead mobsters!! :shock:  :shock:


Thats cause you southern boys ain't never seen no real flounder. You need to have winter first..lol  

We have a flounder fishery in the winter. The fish are smaller, have very small mouths and are right sided. Much better eating too. What we call fluke are their summertime cousins. They are quite larger with big mouths full of very sharp teeth, and left sided. And believe it or not, they are not the same species you catch in Florida. The southern range of these fish are the Carolinas.

In the summer we also have Spotted flounder AKA sundials or window panes, and Four Spotted Flounder. Sundails are not really good eating, they are really thin but they make pretty good strip bait. Four Spots are almost the same as fluke just slightly smaller and have a very profound 4 spot pattern on their backs.
Title: Re: Fishin' Jersey Style
Post by: Circle Hooked on September 01, 2011, 10:41:20 PM
I thought they were all fluke up there,didn't know their are that many kinds,thanks Capt Bill.
Title: Re: Fishin' Jersey Style
Post by: seabob4 on September 01, 2011, 10:56:32 PM
Quote from: "Capt. Bill"
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Quote from: "RickK"
Nice flounders - striper too :salut:

Sorry Bill, you know we call them flounder down here...

Beauty fish!  And to think, we only consider Jersey when we think of chemical plants and dead mobsters!! :shock:  :shock:


Thats cause you southern boys ain't never seen no real flounder. You need to have winter first..lol  

We have a flounder fishery in the winter. The fish are smaller, have very small mouths and are left sided. Much better eating too. What we call fluke are their summertime cousins. They are quite larger with big mouths full of very sharp teeth, and right sided. And believe it or not, they are not the same species you catch in Florida. The southern range of these fish are the Carolinas.

In the summer we also have Starry flounder AKA sundials or window panes, and Four Spotted Flounder. Sundails are not really good eating, they are really thin but they make pretty good strip bait. Four Spots are almost the same as fluke just slightly smaller and have a very profound 4 spot pattern on their backs.

That's pretty cool!  Maybe we should take a closer look at our flukes...I mean flounders!
Title: Re: Fishin' Jersey Style
Post by: T Race on September 01, 2011, 11:34:06 PM
Gee, Cpt. Bill, those fish of yours are swell !!   You must be a real good fisherman, huh ?!  Wow, when I grow up, I'm gonna catch the big one's just like YOU, Cpt. Bill !!!

OK, OK.... so I'm a little bitter over here..... I fished all day today, up at 0300, fishing at 0530... and not a bite all day.  The wind picked  up about 1030 and it was a struggle afterwards, nothing.  Pulled the boat at 1430, smelling skunky.

But I commend you, Bill.... I love the photo of the Striper - one of my favorites... and can't wait to see some Fall pictures of the Blues when they show up in your area... I think they get back up in your area in the Fall.  Do you fish for Blues, Bill?  I like 'em. They're G-U-D Good !!

Thanks for sharing your photos, hopefully next week I will contribute a few halibut photos to the flatfish menagerie....

Cheeeeeers, T :drunken:
Title: Re: Fishin' Jersey Style
Post by: Circle Hooked on September 01, 2011, 11:59:22 PM
Halibut,now that's a Fluke,i mean Flounder  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Fishin' Jersey Style
Post by: RickK on September 02, 2011, 05:24:54 AM
I didn't realize there was a left/right sided difference :scratch:
Learn something new every day :cheers:
Title: Re: Fishin' Jersey Style
Post by: seabob4 on September 02, 2011, 12:40:07 PM
So, what is it in their genes that causes fluke/flounder to be born with one eye on each side of the head, then the one eye migrate over to the other side?

And why do all grouper end up female?
Title: Re: Fishin' Jersey Style
Post by: Circle Hooked on September 02, 2011, 01:00:25 PM
Fish are very strange creatures and yet we eat them  :scratch:

It was a very brave or hungry man who ate the first lobster.
Title: Re: Fishin' Jersey Style
Post by: Capt. Bill on September 02, 2011, 01:27:18 PM
Quote from: "seabob4"
So, what is it in their genes that causes fluke/flounder to be born with one eye on each side of the head, then the one eye migrate over to the other side?

And why do all grouper end up female?

Got me...

Black Sea Bass also switch, but they are all born female and switch to male.
Title: Re: Fishin' Jersey Style
Post by: RickK on September 02, 2011, 05:56:20 PM
We have several Marine Biologist members that can answer.
Title: Re: Fishin' Jersey Style
Post by: MarshMarlowe196 on September 02, 2011, 06:19:42 PM
Quote from: "seabob4"
So, what is it in their genes that causes fluke/flounder to be born with one eye on each side of the head, then the one eye migrate over to the other side?

And why do all grouper end up female?

Ok, first off, I didn't know the answer to this question until yesterday when I watched a special about this on Animal Planet.  I haven't been walking around with this info for years  :roll:   But, to answer this-

Groupers, which are a family of fish called Serranidae, which Sea Bass(es) also belong to, all start their lives out as females, but have in their bodies the ability to produce male hormones (similar to testosterone in human males).  Another fish that has this ability is the Wrasse.  

Not all Groupers/Sea Bass are females (obviously).  One of the females turns to male because of environmental factors (usually a lack of a dominant male).  When it turns to male, it becomes territorial, sometimes changes color,fends off other males, farts, drinks and cusses, and sometimes grows larger than it would as a female.  This male Grouper keeps a Harem of female Groupers and sexes them up until it dies a very happy male Grouper.  At this point, the largest female in the widowed Harem turns into a male and starts the process over.  The majority of groupers will be polygamist females their whole lives.

I tried to look up why flounder metamorph their eyes, but apparently no-one really knows for sure.  

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1 ... x/abstract (http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1095-8649.1987.tb05281.x/abstract)

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Title: Re: Fishin' Jersey Style
Post by: seabob4 on September 02, 2011, 09:31:08 PM
Quote from: "MarshMarlowe196"
I tried to look up why flounder metamorph their eyes, but apparently no-one really knows for sure.  

Because they can? :lol:
Title: Re: Fishin' Jersey Style
Post by: John Jones on September 03, 2011, 12:03:11 AM
Quote from: "Circle Hooked"
It was a very brave or hungry man who ate the first lobster.

What about the first guy to drink milk?
Who decided to eat those round things that comes out of a chicken's butt?  :scratch:
Title: Re: Fishin' Jersey Style
Post by: Capt. Bill on September 14, 2011, 06:51:57 PM
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How about the first person to eat these...The Elusvie Northern Puffer...AKA Blowfish.

The bay up here is infested with them. Drop and reel fishing for 5 straight hours, most of them went back but these were Monday's dinner. The snappers are going to be this weekend fluke bait.  Big fluke love snapper blues.
Title: Re: Fishin' Jersey Style
Post by: gran398 on September 14, 2011, 07:05:55 PM
Bill, those are bigguns! Never tried them, but some folks down here rave about them...do they really taste like chicken?
Title: Re: Fishin' Jersey Style
Post by: Capt. Bill on September 14, 2011, 07:41:05 PM
Quote from: "gran398"
Bill, those are bigguns! Never tried them, but some folks down here rave about them...do they really taste like chicken?

Depends how you cook them. I filleted these, rolled them in sesame oil, coated them with panko crumbs, and deep frird them. They come out golden brown and look and taste like fish sticks. I also wrap them in bacon and broil, or make a scampy sauce, than they taste like scallops.
Title: Re: Fishin' Jersey Style
Post by: Capt. Bill on October 11, 2011, 08:01:52 PM
Quote from: "T Race"
But I commend you, Bill.... I love the photo of the Striper - one of my favorites... and can't wait to see some Fall pictures of the Blues when they show up in your area... I think they get back up in your area in the Fall.  Do you fish for Blues, Bill?  I like 'em. They're G-U-D Good !!

Thanks for sharing your photos, hopefully next week I will contribute a few halibut photos to the flatfish menagerie....

Cheeeeeers, T :drunken:

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Hey T -  This Ones For You   :salut:  

Got into the fall slammers this weekend.  Went 12 for 16 on them on Sunday, and my arms still hurt  :)
Title: Re: Fishin' Jersey Style
Post by: Circle Hooked on October 11, 2011, 08:46:45 PM
Nice  :thumright:
Title: Re: Fishin' Jersey Style
Post by: Capt Matt on October 13, 2011, 09:05:36 AM
Caught what I thought was a flounder while cut bait fishing for redfish on a trip the other day, 21 inches and no markings looked just like the ones in the picture, think it was a Fluke? maybe a Dover sole
Capt matt
Title: Re: Fishin' Jersey Style
Post by: T Race on October 14, 2011, 01:19:01 AM
Quote from: "Capt. Bill"
Quote from: "T Race"
But I commend you, Bill.... I love the photo of the Striper - one of my favorites... and can't wait to see some Fall pictures of the Blues when they show up in your area... I think they get back up in your area in the Fall.  Do you fish for Blues, Bill?  I like 'em. They're G-U-D Good !!

Thanks for sharing your photos, hopefully next week I will contribute a few halibut photos to the flatfish menagerie....

Cheeeeeers, T :drunken:

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Hey T -  This Ones For You   :salut:  

Got into the fall slammers this weekend.  Went 12 for 16 on them on Sunday, and my arms still hurt  :)

HOLY SCHNIECKIES, CPT BILL  ! ! ! ! !    What is your ADDRESS, my new bestest friend in the whole wide world?!?!

That is something to see.  What does that bad boy weigh?   Man, pound for pound, those Blues are true ass kickers.  Do you eat them?  I LOVED them when I caught them in Port Canaveral, FL.  But they were minnows compared to that great gargantuan godzilla of a fish you have there - for me, a big one was 6 or 7 pounds.

How do you prepare it?  are they strong fishy fish when they're that big?  


Man, thanks for sharing, Cpt. Bill...  you made my day  :sunny:   Cheers, Trace :drunken:
Title: Re: Fishin' Jersey Style
Post by: Capt. Bill on October 14, 2011, 09:21:49 AM
T - this one was the biggest for the day weighed a tad under 12 pounds and was 34 inches long.  I needed one for a seson long tournament I'm in but don't think he'll place. I weighted a larger one last year and didn't make the money.

When they're that big they are terrible table fare, this one will become fish cakes, it's the only way I'll eat them.  

Cpt. Matt,

Hard to say without seeing it. There are so many flatfish species who knows. Generally,  fluke don't venture that far south, but that's what the experts say. I don't believe they actually ask the fish  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Fishin' Jersey Style
Post by: Capt. Bill on October 21, 2011, 06:37:10 PM
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Hey T,

A couple more from the right coast.....  :)  :)  :)

The fall bass fishing has just started, we went one for four on the bass on Tuesday. The one in the pick wieghs 25 1/2  pounds. We broke off one, 40 lb test snapped like tread, lost one at the boat, and pulled the hook on a third. Then the biggest bunker pod I have ever seen showed up. It was 300 yards across and 1 1/2 miles long. Gator Blues were slammin' the bunker and it was absolute chaos on board. We probably hooked up with 50 or 60 but only landed a dozen. The one in the pic wieghs 8 1/2 pounds. Looks like a lure in the pic next to the bass.

The cooler they're laying on is a 96 quart. From the black line at the stripers gill to the one just before it's tail is 28 1/2 inches. 28" is legal here in Jersey and I make the lines a 1/2" long so there are no mistakes.

Going to be at it again tomorrow and Sunday, only 2 more weeks before I pull the boat for the winter  :cry:  :cry:  :cry: and I have to make the most of it.
Title: Re: Fishin' Jersey Style
Post by: gran398 on October 21, 2011, 11:22:17 PM
Good stuff Bill!

That huge school of bunker (pogies, menhaden) I'd reckon is somewhat of an anomaly there, this time of the year. They sure have a knack for attracting gamefish.

The bluefish...try soaking them in Mountain Dew before you cook them...knocks out the heavy taste :thumright:
Title: Re: Fishin' Jersey Style
Post by: seabob4 on October 21, 2011, 11:33:11 PM
Bill,
You guys ever thought of moving south?  You can fish year 'round here, you know... :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Fishin' Jersey Style
Post by: GoneFission on October 22, 2011, 12:30:24 AM
Quote from: "seabob4"
Bill,
You guys ever thought of moving south?  You can fish year 'round here, you know... :lol:  :lol:

Duh, can do that here too.  In fact, we have an amazing striped bass fishery in January right on the beach north of Oregon Inlet.  October is probably one of the best fishing months in the Carolinas - you can catch what you want.  Sometimes we get a Giant Bluefin beach run in Jan/Feb.  It's incredible to see those big fish blasting through menhaden in the surf right on the beach.  They look like torpedoes and are in the surf right on the beach.  The bait is flying out of the water, the gulls are everywhere, the wind is usually blowing, and if you want to throw a lure out, you may get a hookup.  But - if you are standing on the beach, you need at least 1/4 mile of line, a strong reel/drag, and a lot of holding on so you can turn that fish around.  Otherwise, just watch the spool empty and listen to that sound when the line runs out and it breaks off on the spool.  Sounds like the word "pink."
Title: Re: Fishin' Jersey Style
Post by: Capt. Bill on October 24, 2011, 08:29:00 PM
Quote from: "Capt. Bill"
Good stuff Bill!

That huge school of bunker (pogies, menhaden) I'd reckon is somewhat of an anomaly there, this time of the year. They sure have a knack for attracting gamefish.

The bluefish...try soaking them in Mountain Dew before you cook them...knocks out the heavy taste


Pods of bunker (menhaden) aren't really an anomaly, there just not usually that large. I've seen plenty of big pods before but that one took the cake.

Quote from: "GoneFission"
Quote from: "seabob4"
Bill,
You guys ever thought of moving south? You can fish year 'round here, you know... :lol: :lol:

Duh, can do that here too. In fact, we have an amazing striped bass fishery in January right on the beach north of Oregon Inlet. October is probably one of the best fishing months in the Carolinas - you can catch what you want. Sometimes we get a Giant Bluefin beach run in Jan/Feb. It's incredible to see those big fish blasting through menhaden in the surf right on the beach. They look like torpedoes and are in the surf right on the beach. The bait is flying out of the water, the gulls are everywhere, the wind is usually blowing, and if you want to throw a lure out, you may get a hookup. But - if you are standing on the beach, you need at least 1/4 mile of line, a strong reel/drag, and a lot of holding on so you can turn that fish around. Otherwise, just watch the spool empty and listen to that sound when the line runs out and it breaks off on the spool. Sounds like the word "pink."

Yeah, I know if I moved south I could fish year round...except it would interfere with a couple of other things. One is that four letter word called work ..... I kinda need to do that to afford my bad habits. The other is deer hunting, which I start doing in December. Pulling the boat now gives me just enough time to winterize her, and my camper, and get ready for deer season. I hunt until the middle of Feb. which gives me just enough time to clean and repair my fishing gear, get the boat ready, and start over.  

:scratch:  :scratch:  :scratch: Come to think of it...what I really need is a longer year  :D  :D  :D
Title: Re: Fishin' Jersey Style
Post by: gran398 on October 25, 2011, 12:43:06 AM
We all need to put our heads together on the longer year thing.. :lol:

Good work. Keep us posted. Striper season would guess is running late up there. Falling water temps are late this year...at least here.
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