Classic AquaSport

Aquasport Model Rebuilds, Mods, Updates and Refreshes => Osprey Style Hull Rebuilds => 196 Rebuilds => Topic started by: Spectre5922 on July 11, 2011, 12:51:39 PM

Title: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: Spectre5922 on July 11, 2011, 12:51:39 PM
Hi guys!

I am new to this site/boating/Aquasports in general.  I am looking at getting an old Aquasport 19-6.  I have a chance to get this boat for $300 with the motor and trailer.  I know a few things about the boat already.  The entire floor is pretty much bad, although I'm hoping that the stringers underneath are okay.  Actually, it is only soft on the sides.  The center of the floor is pretty solid from the bow all the way to the stern.  The motor is an old Sea Horse 140 (which I have heard is not necessarily a desirable motor).  The motor is also missing the starter.  The trailer needs a new receiver, jack and is missing one fender, but the rest seems to be solid with the exception of most of the nuts being rusted.  Pretty much all of the electronics are gone.  It needs a new throttle control and lines and also a new steering assembly.  I have a background inauto paint/body (even though I don't do it anymore) and fiberglass is nothing new to me, so I'm up for the challenge.

With all of that being said, my good friend is a boatwright, and can/will get me all the supplies I need to rebuild her at his cost, so that saves a LOT of $$$ on the rebuild.  He is actually the one that turned me onto this deal.  He also has said that he will donate a lot of material when he has extra (glass/gel coat/plywood/resin, etc).  He already has 4 sheets of 3/4" marine grade that he said I can have.  He also has 8 huge rolls of fiberglass cloth (6' wide) and 15 gallons of resin that he will donate.
 
I have a few questions for you guys, and a few pics that I took yesterday.
1.  Can anyone tell me what year model the hull is?  The hull number is ASPE1614M76C.  I am guessing it's a '76?
2.  Does anyone have a clue what year the motor is?  Evinrude Sea King 140  Model number E140TRNCLB  Also, is this motor worth trying to save?  We have not done a compression test since there is no starter on the motor.

And now for the pics.....

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Aquasport%2019-6/IMG_7749.jpg)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Aquasport%2019-6/IMG_7739.jpg)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Aquasport%2019-6/IMG_7748.jpg)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Aquasport%2019-6/IMG_7746.jpg)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Aquasport%2019-6/IMG_7744.jpg)

Let me know what you guys think.........
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: wingtime on July 11, 2011, 12:58:36 PM
Welcome aboard!

Looks like that boat has potential!  Your stringers are foam filled fiberglass.  So no rot there but the foam inside does get water logged with time and sometimes the stringers can become separated from the hull.  Usually the problem areas for rotted wood is the deck and the transom.  If you do a search you will find tons of rebuild projects on here of that hull.  If your buddy can help you you would have a very desirable boat after replacing the transom (if needed) and deck.
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: Spectre5922 on July 11, 2011, 01:03:39 PM
I forgot to mention......  The transom appears to be very solid.  There are no soft spots anywhere as checked from the inside and outside.  I will drill some core samples while working on it to be safe.  I also forgot to mention that the entire console has been stripped clean with the exception of a junky old throttle control.  There are no gauges or electronics of any type.  Does anyone know where I can get any specs on the boat or MAYBE even be able to download a manual on it?  All I know is that it's an AS that is 19'6".  Beyond that, I can tell that it would be great for a little deeper water and has a ton of floor room.  I will definitely be taking it to the Galveston Jettys for some Red fishing!  Any and all input and help is greatly appreciated.

 :thumleft:
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: Capt. Bob on July 11, 2011, 01:58:00 PM
Your HIN indicates that you are correct in that the hull was built/titled in 1976 during the month of October.

As far as a manual, well..... Here's about as close as you may get.

http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery ... hp/cat/554 (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showgallery.php/cat/554)

Good luck.
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: Woodinator on July 11, 2011, 08:14:28 PM
Ahoy Spectre,

I'll probably get shot for saying this on this site  :wink: , but if the center of the floor seems solid, what about injecting the floor with rotstop epoxy in the soft areas BEFORE you go through the extreme expense of replacing the whole floor?  I've had good luck spot treating areas in my other boats and $100 in epoxy and syringes is a heckuva lot cheaper than a floor replacement, especially if the transom is solid.  At the very least it might buy you a few years while you decide if you like the boat or not since the surface of the deck does not look completely destroyed.  As far as the seahorse, I run the same engine, albeit about 12 years newer.  If it compression checks once you add a starter, then my vote would be to fix it and run it for a while or until it pisses you off since the 140 will push the 196 just fine and they are VERY simple engines to run and maintain once they're dialed in.  Yes, you've got a lot of rigging and setup in front of you, but if you're looking for a seaworthy and functional boat to do some fishin, tubin, divin, whatever, then it looks to be worth every penny of $300.  Just be prepared to dump a grand or two getting her set up (possibly more if the engine is toast) before she'll behave for ya.

My 2 cents.
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: wingtime on July 11, 2011, 08:40:31 PM
for a quick transom test tilt the motor up.  Grab the foot a lift up and down on the motor really hard...  see if the transom flexes or not.   Get a hard plastic hammer and rap on the transom all over listening for spots that have a dead sound to them.  If it's solid...  go ahead and try the epoxy injection trick in the deck.  Can't hurt.
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: Spectre5922 on July 11, 2011, 09:25:26 PM
Quote from: "wingtime"
for a quick transom test tilt the motor up.  Grab the foot a lift up and down on the motor really hard...  see if the transom flexes or not.   Get a hard plastic hammer and rap on the transom all over listening for spots that have a dead sound to them.  If it's solid...  go ahead and try the epoxy injection trick in the deck.  Can't hurt.

I already did the hammer thing with a rubber mallet.  Solid as a rock.  As far as the floor.  It is really soft down both sides about 1-1 1/2 feet from the sides all the way from the bow to the transom.  The center 2' or so is pretty solid though.  I would rather do a permanent fix now so I can gelcoat it and make it purdy.  Once I work on it, I don't want to have to tear it apart again the next season.
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: Woodinator on July 11, 2011, 11:51:42 PM
Totally your call if you want to redo the floor now.   Just got the impression you weren't even sure about the boat so in that case the cheaper solution is usually the better one while you "test the waters".  May sound hard to believe, but the epoxy injection actually is a semi-permanent fix as long as you take the time to seal all the holes where water could be entering the deck.  Just depends on your level of commitment to the boat (and your disposable income).   I injected a delaminated "springboard" of a bow on my last center console and it became the strongest, most rigid part of my boat untill the floor and fuel tank completely fell apart 4 years later.  I guess I'm just not a fan of tearing up original construction until it is completely beyond salvation.
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: gran398 on July 12, 2011, 12:18:48 AM
Buy the boat because you're in love. A pretty blonde with blue eyes.

Fix her up because she has nice curves. In addition she's a performer.  Runs good, looks good...and nice on your arm at the yacht club. The other boys will be jealous of your girl.

Guess what...In Tampa Bay, these boats/hulls are worth 2X or more what they bring in Podunk, NC

But no band-aids. Show the love.

 Set aside good money and treat her right :wink:
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: Spectre5922 on July 12, 2011, 03:58:54 PM
Quote from: "gran398"
Buy the boat because you're in love. A pretty blonde with blue eyes.

Fix her up because she has nice curves. In addition she's a performer.  Runs good, looks good...and nice on your arm at the yacht club. The other boys will be jealous of your girl.

Guess what...In Tampa Bay, these boats/hulls are worth 2X or more what they bring in Podunk, NC

But no band-aids. Show the love.

 Set aside good money and treat her right :wink:


I love the way that you look at vehicles Gran.  The lines on this boat are what got me interested.  I absolutely LOVE the curves on her!
However, after looking at what a sufficient motor would cost(even used), the cost of refurbishing her the way that she deserves and rebuilding the trailer to good condition, I could buy a MUCH newer boat that is in pretty good shape already....  I have a line on a 1988 Larson DC 184 (18' center console) with a Johnson 140 for $1000.  The boat is in really good shape with only a slight amount of gelcoat repair necessary, the trailer looks fantastic and the motor (a '99 model) is so clean you could eat off the power pack.  The woman put it in my friend's lot for storage 3 years ago when her husband died.  She only wanted $1500 for it back then.  Because of time passed and a few things that need repair, she is talking about $700-$1000 for it.  It will only cost me around $300 to have her in the water.  She is ALMOST as sexy as the Aquasport, but much newer and much nicer.
I REALLY appreciate all of the advice and information that you guys have given me, but for a deal like this, I think that I'm going to pass on the Aquasport.  With this being my first boat, I would rather have the boat in the water sooner so I can enjoy the hobby.  I will eventually get an older boat like this for nostalgia's sake to make sexy again at a later time.
I would post pics of teh Larson, but I doubt if anyone on the Aquasport forums cares to look at another brand of boat on their forums.  I will still continue to visit the forums here though.  I think that you all have a lot of good info for boaters in general, and are definitely some of the nicest people that I have talked to about boats.

Thanks again for all of your help!
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: MarshMarlowe196 on July 12, 2011, 05:20:07 PM
Quote from: "Spectre5922"

However, after looking at what a sufficient motor would cost(even used), the cost of refurbishing her the way that she deserves and rebuilding the trailer to good condition, I could buy a MUCH newer boat that is in pretty good shape already....  I have a line on a 1988 Larson DC 184 (18' center console) with a Johnson 140 for $1000.

Hey Buddy - I don't blame you.  When I picked up my 19-6, it looked about like the one you have pictured, but mine had no engine and a single axle trailer that barely made the trip home.  I would never have bought it if she wasn't so solid.  I thought it would be a cheap ride I could put together quick and enjoy, but it slowly became a lot of time and money invested, and its still an ongoing project.  I often tally the amount of money I put into her while I'm scanning boat-trader...  :roll:  But hey, she's got the looks and the character while a lot of new glass looks generic.

Dad and I had that same Larson, but it was a DC.  It was a pretty boat as well, but had definitely seen better days.  Flipped her over and molded the Vee to be continuous all the way to the stern from the bow, and added some planing chines just for fun.  Took her out once just to see what difference it made, then dropped it off at the dump.  I'd like to see yours if you end up buying it.
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: Spectre5922 on July 13, 2011, 01:05:02 AM
Marsh
Between you and Gran, I am rethinking getting the Aquasport.  I MIGHT be able to get it for $200 with motor and trailer. Also, ak may have a starter that would work on it so I could see if the motor could be made to run for pretty cheap.  I have heard that those old Evinrudes are pretty much bullet proof and easy to work on.  If I could get it running for a few bucks, I could spend time saving for a better/newer engine.  With the material that is being donated and the little bit of cash that I have on hand, I could get a good start in getting it (the boat) started.  I probably wouldn't have a boat in the water this season anyway, so i have almost a year to get it going.  Like I told ak in the engine forum, I really like the lines of the Aquasport.  There is just a "personality" in old vehicles (especially older boats).  They aren't so generic as the new ones.  I can't make a decision for the next week anyway.  My go-between in this deal is out of town due to a family death.  I am thinking long and hard about the deal.  You would have to see the before and after pics of my old motorcycle to understand.  It was older than the ones my buddies were riding, but I did all the work myself and was very proud when people would ooh and ahh over it and not even look at the new bikes I was hanging out with.  There is a sense of pride and accomplishment from doing the work yourself and it coming out nice looking that you just can't get in a newer boat.  I will keep everyone informaed as to what happens.  Obviously, if I buy the Aquasport, i will start a thread showing the progress.

thanks guys
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: gran398 on July 13, 2011, 12:01:03 PM
Jess,

That dump comment broke me up :lol:

Spec,

You're spot-on. The reasons you mention made sense to me too. That's why I went ahead and took the dive.

Yep, it'll be some work and money. But you WILL have a head-turner in the end, just like your old bike. And a great boat too.

All of the rebuild threads here are a tremendous resource/reference. I can say with certainty that you will enjoy it when it's finished, and will be well worth it :thumleft:
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: fitz73222 on July 13, 2011, 12:39:48 PM
why don't you buy the Larson to get the motor and sell the Larson and the old 115 and recover most of your initial expenses.
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: Spectre5922 on July 14, 2011, 07:56:34 PM
I actually considered that in a way. There is a SLIGHT chance that I MIGHT be able to buy the motor alone. I am going to check into it when my buddy gets back in town next week. Maybe I'll buy both and run the Larson until I finish the AS, then transfer the motor and sell the Larson and run the AS.........  Just a thought I was having....... I guess great minds think alike!
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: GoneFission on July 14, 2011, 08:15:50 PM
Quote from: "gran398"
Buy the boat because you're in love. A pretty blonde with blue eyes.
Guess what...In Tampa Bay, these boats/hulls are worth 2X or more what they bring in Podunk, NC

 Set aside good money and treat her right :wink:

Podunk, NC??   :scratch:   I resemble that remark!    :cheers:
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: gran398 on July 14, 2011, 09:41:45 PM
bofus and...maybe more?

         :lol:
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: Spectre5922 on July 15, 2011, 11:01:19 AM
Hey Gran,

Just for grins, here are some before and after pics of my old bike.  It was a 1992 GSXR 750.  The pics don't really show how bad the paint was when I bought it.  It was painted metallic black from a rattle can.  There were runs everywhere, metallic pooling and light spots.  I did all the prep, fiberglass work and painting myself during the rebuild.

BEFORE

 (http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/IMG_2612.jpg)

DURING

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Earlybikeprogress004.jpg)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Earlybikeprogress006.jpg)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Basecoatcomplete004.jpg)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Basecoatcomplete011.jpg)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Clearcoatandpinstripe001.jpg)


The after pics are in the next post to keep tjhis one short..............
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: Spectre5922 on July 15, 2011, 11:29:05 AM
After a LOT of blood, sweat and tears, here is the finished product.  The whole point to all of this is to show that I am the same type person as you guys.  I don't like to half-do things.  I am passionate about older vehicles and bringing them back from the dead.  I love the old lines and think that older vehicles (including boats) have a character that newer ones just don't have.  Here she is $2500 later and all finished up.  I would park next to bikes that cost 5-10 times what mine did, but mine got the attention.  During a ride to Galveston (167 bikes) the leader rode beside me the entire time so his girlfriend could take pics of my bike on the road the whole way.

Here she is.....

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Picture010.jpg)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Picture003-2.jpg)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Picture002-2.jpg)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Finalpics004.jpg)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Finalpics003.jpg)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Finalpics006.jpg)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Finalpics005.jpg)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/MybikeattheMG2.jpg)


The upgrade list includes:
Bodywork/paint
HID headlights
New skull grips
New chain/sprockets
New levers
New dark smoke windscreen
New mirrors
New led instrument lights
New led tail lights
New clutch/cable
Flush brake system
Rebuild calipers
New EBC Wave rotors ($322 each)
Reupholstered seat (Sea Doo material)
New carbon fiber led turn signals
New bearings throughout
New Michelin M22 tires
Reflective rim stripes
Fiberglass solo tail
I'm sure a lot more than I'm forgetting

The bike had 5 coats of paint, wet sanded between coats with 4 coats of clear.


The really sad part is that I ran into a friend of the guy that bought it from me last June the other day.  He said that the guy that bought it was out riding it in December and lost control and totalled it.  I spent a month every night and weekend working on her for some noob to go out and total it in the first 6 months!  I almost cried!  lol
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: gran398 on July 15, 2011, 12:41:01 PM
Well that sucks. But hey, what a beautiful job!

Thanks for posting the pics...they were awesome :cheers:
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: gman 82 aquasport on July 16, 2011, 08:55:38 PM
Go ahead with the Aquasport, I picked up a 82 aquasport 19.6 Osprey in March on a tandem trailer(no motor) for $700, 2 months later had it in the water with a 92 Johnson 150 on the rear ,new wiring on everything, new paint(baby blue over white on the bottom) new gas tank,new lights, all new gauges,built my own t-top, removed front section of the floor to fix soft spot and to replace fuel filler and vent hoses,did all work myself except for alum welding on t-top, making my own electronics box (Foam core) for top.Everything said and done including all new bolts and tires and lights on trailer for under 5K. Yes I could have bought another boat for the same money but this way I know what's been done and how....besides it just feels good to know that the way the boat is and looks is because of your own hard work... :)
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: pete on July 16, 2011, 09:41:51 PM
Welcome gman!Your boat sounds awesome,need to see some pics :salut:
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: Spectre5922 on August 01, 2011, 02:49:45 PM
BREAKING HEADLINES!!!!!!   :mrgreen:

For those of you who followed everything that was going on (or weird), there has been a MAJOR change in the guy's attitude that had the AS I was looking at!  It seems that he needed a Johnson 88 pulled from a little Bayliner bowrider that he had, and at the same time, he needed the Tracker 40 pulled off his pontoon boat and the 88 installed on it.  Long story short, I did the swap for him last Friday, and guess what?

Wait for it.......


Wait for it......

HE GAVE ME THE AQUASPORT FOR DOING THE SWAP!

Not only did he come off his inflated price, but he gave the boat for doing the job!  It went from $300 to too much to $0 for it!  I will be starting on it this weekend with some dismantling, pulling what is left of the harness, removing the console, etc.  

BTW....  Here is a pic that was taken Friday afternoon at my buddy's shop after we pulled MY new AS there!

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Aquasport%2019-6/25.jpg)
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: gran398 on August 01, 2011, 04:09:56 PM
SA-WEET!!! Welcome to the club of esteemed and distinguished Classis Aquasport Owners :cheers:  :cheers:
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: Spectre5922 on August 04, 2011, 12:07:43 PM
Hi guys!

I thought about posting this as a seperate post so it would get more attention.....

I have started to tear into the AS a little.  I have pulled the center console, coffin cover and tank.  I am in the process right now of removing all of the bolts, screws, brackets, steering and other items from the console to get it ready to sand and prep for gel coat.  The good news is that the tank APPEARS to be okay.  I am going to clean it up and have it pressure tested soon.  Also, I have decided that, rather than do a temporary fix for the soft spots in the floor with the foam, I am going to do it right from the beginning and replace the entire floor.  This way, I won’t have to disassemble the boat again for years.  The water separator was mounted inside the console and had a hole rusted through the bottom and the PO had cut the fuel filler line and put a PVC plumbing cap on the line under the console right at the tank.  
Anyway, I have a TON of questions for you though being the noob that I am.

1. Are all steering wheel hubs universal on boats or do I have to get a wheel specifically for whatever system I install?  The cable was completely frozen and the wheel is toast (as you can see in my pics).  I do not want to install the cheapie black sport wheels like I see in sport boats.  If I am going to do this, I want the correct wheel like the stainless ones that I have seen in various posts here.

2. Are proper throttle control levers really $230???  If so, maybe that is why the PO had that junky one that was not designed for a center console boat installed (it was mounted to the console with a homemade aluminum L-channel bracket).

3. Where do I find the thread that describes using a PVC pipe under the floor instead of using the cable trough?  You guys are right.  It is just a collection point for dirt, debris and muck.

4. Can you use automotive glazing putty on small scratches and nicks or do you need to use a marine-specific product?  I am will be starting to sand the console this weekend after I patch all of the various screw holes, bolt holes and unwanted drilled holes from old controls and switches that are in the console.  I don’t want to do anything that will not react well with the gel coat when it is applied.

5. Are the gas tank compartments supposed to have drain holes in them that go to the bilge area?  Mine has no holes and was completely full of water from rain over the years.  Should I install a drain in that area when I redo the floor?

6. Is there a preferred type of steering system for a boat this size?  I don’t think that I can do the hydraulic setup due to cost considerations, but is there a preference between a rack and pinion setup and the one that looks like a spring that wraps around the hub?  The one that is in the boat now is the spring type setup, but it is trashed and will be replaced.

7. Would it be a total insult to AS owners and classic Aquasport boats everywhere if I replaced all of the wood doors (anchor locker, console storage) with the marine plastic hatches?  It would save a ton of money and maintenance down the road.

8. Is there a reason why there is wood between the console and deck, or is that just for looks?  Does it serve a purpose?

9. I don’t have an outlet for cypress in my area.  Is there any other wood beside cypress and teak that are acceptable for marine applications?  The supplier of teak in my area charges $.27/sq. in. for ¾ in. teak.  The wood under the console alone would cost right at $200.  I MIGHT be able to save the teak step rails on the sides, but the anchor locker door is missing and the door frame on the console has a big chip out of it.

10. I’ve noticed in another build post that a lot of extra bulkheads were added during the floor replacement.  Is that something that I should consider on mine?  Is it necessary support that people have found should have been done from the factory?

I’m sorry for the huge list, but you guys are the gurus.

I will keep posting pics as I progress.....

Thanks for any help.
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: gran398 on August 04, 2011, 12:24:03 PM
No questions are dumb...glad you got her!

Step by step...save the rigging/mechanical stuff for last.

You don't need the teak beneath the console, unless you want it. If you want to keep it the same height, use starboard.

Check the build date on the tank...see if its been replaced. If its original...chunk it.

There are a BUNCH of tank threads on here...see which method is most appealing to you. Anytime we get to talking tank installs, well....we end up having "lively discussion"  :lol:

Let us know how the transom and stringers look when you get the floor out. Tx.
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: imonna 19 6 on August 06, 2011, 11:36:17 PM
Congrats on the boat.  i just (a few months ago) did a full install of a new gas tank and my post is here somewhere with a ton of pictures: ranging from removing the old lines to wiring the sender.  Having done it so recently, all the info is fresh in my brain, so send me a PM if you have any questions.  

Again congrats and good luck

Bill
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: adpostel on August 09, 2011, 11:31:20 AM
Congrats on the new rig, I have a 78 19-6 and am right down the street from you in Seabrook. I am redoing mine as well.  Lets keep in touch.
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: Spectre5922 on August 10, 2011, 12:39:32 PM
Quote from: "adpostel"
Congrats on the new rig, I have a 78 19-6 and am right down the street from you in Seabrook. I am redoing mine as well.  Lets keep in touch.

Absolutely!  Check your inbox.  I'll PM you my number.
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: Spectre5922 on August 22, 2011, 10:53:15 PM
Well, it's been a real slow start.  Work has been brutal lately.  I have pulled the tank and console, stripped teh console and started cleaning the boat.  It was so nasty before that I almost didn't want to work on it.  Here are some before and after pics of the little that I've done so far.

Console before....

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Aquasport%2019-6/5.jpg)

Console after....

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Aquasport%2019-6/8-10-20113.jpg)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Aquasport%2019-6/8-10-20111.jpg)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Aquasport%2019-6/8-22-20114.jpg)

Grungy nasty dirty old boat....

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Aquasport%2019-6/1.jpg)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Aquasport%2019-6/15.jpg)

Not so grungy nasty dirty old boat.  It actually looks pretty damn good cleaned up.

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Aquasport%2019-6/8-22-20113.jpg)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Aquasport%2019-6/8-22-20112.jpg)

Console and tank pulled.  Ready for tank pressure test and new floor after I clean up the inside just like the outside.

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Aquasport%2019-6/8-22-20111.jpg)


With work the way it is, it's going to be kind of slow going until the winter.  Once work slows down I can really get moving on her compared to what I'm able to spend time doing now.
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: gran398 on August 22, 2011, 11:16:18 PM
Good start! Got the slime off :thumright:

Keep going...she's gonna be winkin' atcha...

 :lol:
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: Spectre5922 on August 22, 2011, 11:34:05 PM
That was quite a few hours of hard scrubbing Gran and I still have the inside to go. I figure I'll have over 10-20 more hours just in general cleanup and disassembly before the real work begins. I still have to pull the rest of the teak and rigging. She definitely is starting to  show a little of her sex appeal now that she's getting cleaned up and looking kind of presentable.
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: Spectre5922 on September 02, 2011, 10:31:26 AM
Well I am taking my tank to be fabricated today.  I should have it back by the end of next week.  For you Houston area guys I'll review how well the tank is built as soon as I get it back.  I haven't gotten a LOT done on the boat in the last few weeks due to work.  I DID get a chance to get the exterior all cleaned up though. It looks SO much better than when it has all that green funk on it!  
Another idea that I had lately was to ad a little more real estate to the top of the console similar to a Pathfinder 2200 to give me more room for gauges, etc.  I know that some of you will cringe at the idea of changing the console on an AS, but this is a functional change that will definitely be for the better.  
Here are some pics of how it sits now.  I can't seem to keep leaves out of it and I was too lazy to sweep it out before I took the pics.

The console is just sitting in place because I was taking some measurements.
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Aquasport%2019-6/9-1-20116.jpg)


Here is a transom shot with the old motor finally pulled.
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Aquasport%2019-6/9-1-20115.jpg)


Starboard side looking MUCH cleaner!
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Aquasport%2019-6/9-1-20114.jpg)


Ya GOTTA love that front tire!
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Aquasport%2019-6/9-1-20113.jpg)


I still have some work to do on the transom tidying things up and getting rid of the rest of the old hardware.
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Aquasport%2019-6/9-1-20112.jpg)


Here is the Port side.  It looks a LOT cleaner just being washed and getting rid of the old rotted guides on the trailer.  If you look closely you can see a spot that we buffed out to see what the hull would look like about 1/3 of the way back from the bow.  NOW I'm getting excited!
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Aquasport%2019-6/9-1-20111.jpg)

It's going to be a long process and won't be ready until next summer, but it is going to be a LOT of fun!
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: Aswaff400 on September 04, 2011, 08:15:21 AM
looks good man! those AS emblems look to be in good condition, if they are, they are worth some weight in gold

can you post a pic or 2 of those for us?
 :thumleft:
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: Spectre5922 on September 04, 2011, 09:00:13 AM
I will try to get by there today and get some pics of them.  I just went back to the last pics and magnified a few of them.  The port side emblem appears to be in almost perfect shape but the starboard side emblem is broken.  It is missing the "rt" and the top part of the 6.
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: Spectre5922 on September 07, 2011, 10:16:31 PM
Well, I didn't hear any grumbles and groans from the AS purists, so I decided to go ahead and modify the console for more room to mount switches, gauges, stereos, etc.  Here is what I got done today.  The upper section will house the gauges, VHF and radio, and the lower section will hold the switch panel, horn, kill switch, ignition, steering and throttle.  I think the layout will be much more roomy and uncluttered.  I also cut the top off the console so it is wide open underneath and tabbed the inside joint also.  From the pics, you can probably tell that all of the ply is not resin-coated yet.  The back side is coated along with the areas that needed to be tabbed (I hate working with ply that is resin-coated on both sides).  I will resin coat the rest before I start laying the glass.  I like it, butI'm curious what you guys think?

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Aquasport%2019-6/9-7-20111.jpg)


(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Aquasport%2019-6/9-7-20112.jpg)


(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Aquasport%2019-6/9-7-20113.jpg)


Have I done a good thing or totally screwed up a classic console and commited a cardinal AS sin?
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: pete on September 07, 2011, 10:25:42 PM
Nice job,I like it! Lots more room to mount stuff,I would suggest a small storage or glove box flush mounted on that new section,always nice to have a handy place to put wallet,keys,camera,etc.looks great!customize it to suit your needs,thats the fun of it :salut:
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: Spectre5922 on September 07, 2011, 10:38:41 PM
I am either going to install a small glovebox in the top section or just use the area under the console (shelf) for storage.  I will also have a seperate 2-way dedicated bilge switch and a 12v power socket for phone chargers, Q-beam, etc.  I also thought about dividing the area under the console (shelf area) into two sections.  One would be a box that takes up the front half with a door for storage, then the other half (back half) of the shelf area would be accessible from the front side behind the seat.  I am also considering building a live well/leaning post combo.  From what I have seen, that was an AS option and it just makes sense to save room doing that.  I could build a nice one and have a seat cushion upholstered for about what a leaning post would cost and would not have to take up valuable floor (fishing) space with a seperate live well. I'm also planning on moving the console about 5"-6" forward from the stock position.  If I do that, I won't really loose a lot of rear deck space from the install of a leaning post/live well combo and will also possibly help offset the additional weight of it.

By the way.....  I cut a huge hole in the floor in several places (mid-deck on each side and center in front of transom).  The floor is amazingly in-tact.  There are two spots that are soft.  Both of them are from delaminating plywood.  The PO had a t-top at one time and did a really bad job of sealing the bolt holes when he removed it.  The two soft spots are right beside old t-top holes.  The rest of the floor is rock hard.  I also got my head up under the floor to look at the stringers.  They are really in fantastic shape and are not delaminating from the floor.  I will probably not pull the floor.  Instead, I will repair the bad spots including properly sealing any old holes and then lay and glass a layer of 3/4".  By the way....  The floor in the boat is only 1/2" ply!  I would have thought a boat that size would have 3/4".

I also checked the transom while I was under the floor.  It is solid as a rock!  NOW I am getting stoked!  The more I tear into her, the more that I realize she's not really in that bad a shape.  It is mostly cosmetic.
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: pete on September 07, 2011, 10:45:32 PM
here is a link to a cool one built on THT

http://www.thehulltruth.com/boating-out ... cc-86.html (http://www.thehulltruth.com/boating-outdoor-photos/268706-building-27ft-cc-86.html)

bottom of page,go back a few pages to see the build
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: gran398 on September 07, 2011, 11:24:39 PM
The console looks great.

A bit taller, great for hiding behind the weather. Looks like a Tampa guide console.

Relatively vertical on the upper face for flush-mount electronics install. You have a lot of options here.

Good idea for a number of reasons to go with the livewell as a component of the leaning post.
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: Spectre5922 on September 08, 2011, 12:00:03 AM
Thanks guys.

Gran...  I specifically picked that height.  It is only 10" taller than stock.  It is tall enough that I can sit on the live well or seat and see through the windshield so I don't have to take saltwater to the face on windy/choppy days, but is short enough that I will still drive the boat looking over the windshield while standing up.  Just about everything with a readout will be on the top section closer to eye level, the fish finder and compass will be on the very top along with a few flush-mounted cup holders and everything that I need to touch or control will be on the bottom section.  It is kind of a mimic of a Pathfinder 2200 console except wider.

BTW....  I should be getting my tank back tomorrow so I will post up picks and a review as soon as I get it.
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: LilRichard on September 08, 2011, 07:54:57 AM
Good job on the console!
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: Blue Agave on September 08, 2011, 06:16:23 PM
IMHO a leaning post is useless in our aquasports.  Go with a livewell with a cushion, and lean on the livewell.
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: MarshMarlowe196 on September 08, 2011, 06:55:20 PM
Could go with something like this-

(http://www.thehulltruth.com/photos/get-photo.asp?photoid=23089)

My father-in-law-to-be's Boston Whaler has a really nice leaning post with a hidden cooler underneath that slides out on a track.

I personally like the cooler seat with the adjustable backrest.  I can move it a little forward and "lean" on it if I really wanted to, or sit down and drive, or move the backrest completely forward and fish out of the back of the boat.  Then again, I do have the stern-mount wells on my boat, so a leaning post style livewell would seem logical if I didn't have the wells.
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: Spectre5922 on September 13, 2011, 05:27:31 PM
Well, I went by to see how the tank was coming along.  He has the bottom and sides bent and the front and rear cut and ready to weld.  I had to take him some more $$$ for more material before he could finish.  I should have it back by Thursday during lunch.  

Here are some pics of the way it sits now. He still has to cut the baffles and top, then weld everything together.  He also has a brand new sender to install for me.  I can't wait to get it back and epoxy-coated so I can go to the next step.

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Aquasport%2019-6/9-12-20113.jpg)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Aquasport%2019-6/9-12-20112.jpg)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Aquasport%2019-6/9-12-20111.jpg)

Also, of all things......  I have been worried about a motor....  Now I have 2!  I still have the old Sea King 140, but now I have also been given a 1977 Evinrude 115 that is 100% complete!  We have already done a compression test on the 115 and it is reading right at 95 on 3 cylinders and right at 105 on the 4th.  I also have the title for the 115.  I know it is an older motor, but it sure is a lot cleaner than the 140.  That 140 looks like it's been ridden hard and put up wet.  The 115on the other hand is amazingly clean for it's age.
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: Spectre5922 on September 14, 2011, 09:54:09 AM
I got some pics of the other motor last night along with the live well that we are going to cut out of the old Roughneck and fab into a livewell seat for my boat.

Here is the '77 Evinrude 115...

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Aquasport%2019-6/9-13-20111.jpg)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Aquasport%2019-6/9-13-20112.jpg)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Aquasport%2019-6/9-13-20114.jpg)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Aquasport%2019-6/9-13-20113.jpg)


Here is the livewell that I am going to cut out...

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Aquasport%2019-6/9-13-20115.jpg)
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: Spectre5922 on November 07, 2011, 11:10:50 AM
I have been working on the console in my spare time, but haven't gotten REAL far on it in the last few weeks.  Here are some pics of what I have going on now.

Here is what the console looks like after the modifications that I made to it.  I am also going to cut out the center divider on the back and install a set of teak doors that I got from another boat.
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Aquasport%2019-6/Console.jpg)


Here is the leaning post that I am probably going to get for it.  The cushions need to be recovered, but the rest of it is nice.  The back bench also folds up so you can get to a cooler underneath.  Also, the doors that you see in front of the leaning post are the ones that I am cleaning up and putting on my boat.
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Aquasport%2019-6/Leaningpost.jpg)


Here is a pic of one of the doors taken off the boat and ready for some restoration.
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Aquasport%2019-6/Teakdoor1.jpg)


Here is one of the doors after a LOT of sanding!
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Aquasport%2019-6/Teakdoor2.jpg)


I will be working on her tonight to get the door frame cut down and mortised to fit my console dimensions.  I am anxiously waiting for early December when my bonus comes in so I can dump a LOT of money into her.  I should be able to have her ready for a motor by February.  I have also abandoned the idea of using either one of those old motors or putting that old live well in for now.
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: Spectre5922 on January 03, 2012, 04:57:46 PM
Stay tuned......  I have some SERIOUS Aqua-porn coming in the next few days!

I have been kind of dormant for the last few months getting supplies together and doing little nick-nack prep work on the boat.  Now I have all of the hoses and wiring together, the floor panels have been templated, cut and resin-coated.  I will be installing the new tank, hoses, wiring and floor throughout the next week and will get some pics up as soon as I can.  I am $1600 into materials, etc and my buddy has donated over $2000 worth of materials and parts.  I will have the boat ready for a motor by March and will not have over $2500 into it myself.  It's GOOD to know people!  lol

NOW I'm starting to get excited!
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: gran398 on January 03, 2012, 10:01:34 PM
Quote from: "Spectre5922"
Stay tuned......  I have some SERIOUS Aqua-porn coming in the next few days!

I have been kind of dormant for the last few months getting supplies together and doing little nick-nack prep work on the boat.  Now I have all of the hoses and wiring together, the floor panels have been templated, cut and resin-coated.  I will be installing the new tank, hoses, wiring and floor throughout the next week and will get some pics up as soon as I can.  I am $1600 into materials, etc and my buddy has donated over $2000 worth of materials and parts.  I will have the boat ready for a motor by March and will not have over $2500 into it myself.  It's GOOD to know people!  lol

NOW I'm starting to get excited!


 :thumright:  :thumright:
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: Spectre5922 on January 05, 2012, 11:40:49 PM
I can't find my memory card with the pre-floor pics, but here are a few from tonight.  The tank is in, ground, fuel sender and bilge pump wires run, fuel fill, feed and vent hoses are in, tank is foamed in and the floor is installed.  So here is some Aqua-porn for you guys.  Without the pre-floor pics, I know it doesn't rate XXX status, but it's better than PG-13!

I love the purdy new floor!  It's 3/4" to give a little more strength and a sturdier feel than 1/2".  I fabricated the fiberglass tube for the wire feeds under the console.  It still has to be recessed in the floor before glass.  And yes, I cut the hole in the side for the 10" pie plate.  I don't mind it being there, and it makes installation of the new fill and vent hoses SO much easier!
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Aquasport%2019-6/140.jpg)

Here is a pic with the console test-fit to see exactly where I want to put it.  I am moving it approximately 8"-10" forward of the stock location to give more room at the rear of the boat, move the CG forward a bit since our AS's are so tail heavy and also to make more room for my huge leaning post!
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Aquasport%2019-6/144.jpg)

Here is a better pic showing just how much room I'll be freeing up by moving the console forward.
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Aquasport%2019-6/147.jpg)

Here is my ugly butt to give you a better idea just how much taller the console is since I modified it and added the upper section for gauges, VHF and stereo.  MAN, AS's don't have much real estate on the consoles for anything when stock!  When finished, it will have a full 6 gauge cluster, VHF, stereo, fish finder, GPS, 6 switch panel with pop-up breakers instead of fuses plus the normal stuff like steering, throttle, ignition switch, horn button, etc.

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Aquasport%2019-6/150.jpg)

Since I haven't posted any pics in a while, I hope this gets me at least a LITTLE redemption for now!   :roll:
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: wingtime on January 05, 2012, 11:44:58 PM
Looking good!  :salut:
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: Spectre5922 on January 06, 2012, 12:00:33 AM
Thanks wingtime.  I could not have gotten this far this fast, or for nearly as cheap without my buddy with the marine repair shop.  I totalled everything up earlier today, and he has donated $2500+ worth of parts and materials for my boat (plus the almost $1700 that I have spent)!  I am also getting his discount at the marine supply houses.  I have gotten things like 5 gallons of resin and 5 gallons of acetone for $200, console-mount (individual port and starboard) led navigation lights with stainless housings for $31/set, 8' of fuel fill and vent hoses for $53, etc.  Without his help/discounts, I would be around $4000 into her right now!  I already have (from him) the helm, gauges, GPS, fish finder, fiberglass cloth, gelcoat, new aluminum rub rail, trailer lights and wiring harness and a ton of other stuff.  I literally have boxes of supplies.  At the rate I'm going, she will be ready for a motor by late February or early March.  Supplies and money aren't the deciding factor anymore.  Now, it's time to work on her!
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: Fletch170 on January 06, 2012, 08:14:48 AM
Looks really good! I'm in the same boat (Phun Intended), I have a huge pile of parts, but no time, or the correct temp to finish the fiberglass. As it is 28 degrees outside at the moment, it looks like I will be waiting some time.

Regardless, keep up the good work!

-Fletch
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: Capt Matt on January 06, 2012, 08:37:07 AM
I had rubbermaid tubs full of thousands in parts stacked in my bedroom for a few months. Tripping over a porta-bracket on the way to the bathroom late night is no fun. Installing all the extra's is the instant satisfaction part of the build.
My wife was so happy to see all that stuff finally get on the boat and out of our bedroom.
Capt Matt
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: Spectre5922 on January 06, 2012, 10:33:30 AM
Quote from: "Fletch170"
Looks really good! I'm in the same boat (Phun Intended), I have a huge pile of parts, but no time, or the correct temp to finish the fiberglass. As it is 28 degrees outside at the moment, it looks like I will be waiting some time.

Regardless, keep up the good work!

-Fletch

I can't say that I feel your pain Fletch.  I live 15 miles north of Galveston Bay.  When I took those pictures last night, it was around 75 degrees and muggy.  Ya gotta love living in south Texas.  January, and it's in the 70's.  In my area, we have 2 seasons....  We have ungodly hot for around 9 months and cool for 3.  If it gets down past around 50 degrees, people act like they're going to die from hypothermia (sp?)!  Don't even ask what happens when it snows every 4 or 5 years.....   :shock:
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: Mark Sr on January 06, 2012, 11:01:51 AM
Does anybody know if the leaning post/seat is a standard aquasport seat? I like the seat reversed because I usually fish out the back.
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: Spectre5922 on January 06, 2012, 12:48:11 PM
Quote from: "Mark Sr"
Does anybody know if the leaning post/seat is a standard aquasport seat? I like the seat reversed because I usually fish out the back.
If you're talking about the leaning post pic that I posted, it is not a stock AS item. That came out of a 28' CC that my friend and I are rebuilding for a customer. The customer decided to go a different direction, so I picked it up for cheap.
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: Fletch170 on January 06, 2012, 01:37:37 PM
HA! Yea, I've mentioned on a few other posts that my pops lives in Juno Beach Florida.....and complains when it dips down into the 60's. It was in the teens here last night. The kind of cold that just pisses you off as soon as you go outdoors.

Makes boat building difficult at best. Either way, keep up the good work man!

-Fletch
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: Aswaff400 on January 06, 2012, 07:07:51 PM
that console looks perfect man! :thumleft:
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: Spectre5922 on January 09, 2012, 10:27:20 AM
A quick question.....  I am going to be starting to fair the edges of the new floor to the hull sides tonight with a Cabosil/resin mix.  Do you guys normally tab that in with glass cloth/mat, or do you wait to bring in the cloth until after everything is faired?

Just curious.....
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: Spectre5922 on January 09, 2012, 10:33:31 AM
Quote from: "Aswaff400"
that console looks perfect man! :thumleft:

Thanks Aswaff!
When I first got the boat and started thinking of what I eventually wanted her to be, I took ideas from some of the larger boats that Linden had around the shop.  In particular, I was looking at the Pathfinder 2200's that he was working on.  I knew I wanted more space for full guage sets, VHF and a stereo.  Although the Aquasport is one of the sexiest old boats I have ever seen, the console was really lacking space to make it truly usable.  With the addition of the extra 10" on the console, I now have room for all of the guages that I want (6) and all of the other electronics that I am going to install.  I also like that it will raise the overall height with the windshield installed so I don't get completely soaked on choppy days, and I can be 100% dry if I sit while driving her.  I am also adding individual port/starboard led navigation lights to the console.  I never did like the bow-mounted lights.
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: gran398 on January 09, 2012, 03:46:16 PM
Hey, like the idea of the nav lights on the console...which ones are you looking at? Tx
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: Spectre5922 on January 09, 2012, 04:18:23 PM
Quote from: "gran398"
Hey, like the idea of the nav lights on the console...which ones are you looking at? Tx
I got a smoking deal on a set from Blue Seas.... Stainless bodies with led's for $31/ pair. I'll try to get a pic when I get home and post it. They were on the clearance table at Blackburn Marine in Kemah. They also had a switch panel with 6 Contura rocker switches and pop up breakers for $79. That is the place where I got my fill and vent hose for $53. Once I post the pic, if you like them, I can see if they have any more of them in stock. If they do and you want them, I can pick them up and ship them to you. The best price I saw before them on led lights was at Worthless Marine for $50/each ($100 total) with black plastic housings.
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: Spectre5922 on January 09, 2012, 09:33:12 PM
Hey Gran,

This isn't a great pic, but here are the navigation lights that I picked up for cheap...

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Aquasport%2019-6/IMAG0025.jpg)

I will try to get a picture of them lit up in the next day or so.
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: swils05 on January 16, 2012, 12:24:09 PM
Spectre5922,

I really like the console, I am just starting a console/deck job and Ive never really worked with fiberglass except fixing dings on surfboards.

Do you have any pic's on the console rebuild or what exactly you used for patching old holes etc??

Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Thx
Sean

1974 19-6
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: Capt Matt on January 16, 2012, 01:49:30 PM
Mounting the Nav lights on the console is the way to go, Saves you running wire to the bow too. I mounted mine on my tower console. Love the LED's
Capt Matt
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: Spectre5922 on January 17, 2012, 10:25:00 AM
Quote from: "swils05"
Spectre5922,

I really like the console, I am just starting a console/deck job and Ive never really worked with fiberglass except fixing dings on surfboards.

Do you have any pic's on the console rebuild or what exactly you used for patching old holes etc??

Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Thx
Sean

1974 19-6

I really didn't take any pictures during the console rebuild. As far As filling old holes, I cut ply plugs, resin coated them and glasses them in the holes. To make the console taller, I just cut the flat surface off the top of the console, used some cardboard to make a template for the new addition, then built it out of ply. Sorry I don't have more info. I didn't think about documenting the console mods until after I did them. I might have some pics of the console before I started glassing it. At least that way you can get a better idea what I did.
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: Spectre5922 on January 27, 2012, 03:59:59 PM
Okay....  So now comes the part where I feel really, really stupid!  I had posted that I checked the transom and it was solid with the exception of some blisters.  I had ground out a few of the blisters and the plywood looked nice and clean.  Little did I know that I was just looking at the outside layer.  I went to drill the holes for the new scuppers a few days ago, and guess what?  The hole saw would barely make it through the transom because it kept getting clogged up with rotten wood!  I'll post pics in a bit (I have to upload them to Photobucket).  I played hookie from work yesterday and got the old ply removed and started in with installing the new ply.  This new transom is going to be almost indestructable!  It only took 2 hours to get the outer glass and all of the wood out.  Next, we made templates and cut the first layer of ply.  There will be a total of 7+ layers of glass plus the 2 sheets of ply in the new transom.  I'll save the rest for when I post the pics.
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: swils05 on January 28, 2012, 05:25:21 PM
That sucks...
Looking forward to your pics.
I just started recoring hatches etc.
If you ever found those console rebuild pics, let me know

Sean
74 19'6
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: Spectre5922 on January 28, 2012, 10:34:09 PM
Hey Sean,

Sorry for the late response.  It has been a hectic few days. As far as the console build pics, the only ones that I have specifically of the console are already on pages 2,3 and 4 of this thread.  I trimmed down the door frame for the console tonight and rabbited it to fit on my console.  Here is a picture of the doors/frame after test-fitting.  I might be able to add a little to what you are seeing in the previous console pics.  We cut the top off the console (Only the very top.  We did not touch the sides at all.)  From there, we added the top section that you see on page 3.  The rest should be kind of self explanatory.  If you need a more in-depth explanation, send me a PM and I'll try to do more to help you.

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Aquasport%2019-6/1-28-2012.jpg)


Here are the pics of what I found as I stripped the transom and a few pics of the beginning of the rebuild on it.

Imagine how fast my heart sank when I saw this.....
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Aquasport%2019-6/1-26-20121.jpg)

and this....
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Aquasport%2019-6/1-26-20122.jpg)
This is my buddy Linden doing some grinding on her so I could take some more pics.
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Aquasport%2019-6/1-26-20123.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Aquasport%2019-6/1-26-20124.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Aquasport%2019-6/1-26-20125.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Aquasport%2019-6/1-26-20126.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Aquasport%2019-6/1-26-20127.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Aquasport%2019-6/1-26-20128.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Aquasport%2019-6/1-26-20129.jpg)


Look at the good side of all of this.....  The boat will now have all new wiring and hoses, a new tank, new floor and new transom!
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: slvrlng on January 28, 2012, 10:38:16 PM
Since you cut it out from the outside , how far are you going to wrap glass around the hullsides?
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: Spectre5922 on January 28, 2012, 10:45:20 PM
Quote from: "slvrlng"
Since you cut it out from the outside , how far are you going to wrap glass around the hullsides?

Since there were already some blisters on the side, I am planning on wrapping the glass between a foot and 18" around the side.  I was already going to have to do some glassing that far up anyway, so it won't hurt to run the glass that far.  I have gotten some second opinions about doing the job from the outside and everyone has said that it is preferrable to do it from the inside, obviously, but since I had just put a new floor in it, it could be done from the outside so I wouldn't have to rip out everything that I just did as long as I do it right.  We are tying it into the existing old hull in every possible way that we can.  Also, Linden did another 19-6 (I think it was a '74) the same way around 7 years ago and it is still in the same shape as the day that the guy picked it up from him.  The guy brought it back to Linden for some more repairs from hitting some rocks at the Jetties, but all of the work asociated with the transom still look great with no signs of any cracking or stress and the guy takes it out 3-4 days a week.

I forgot to mention that since I was already replacing the transom, I decided to add an additional 5" to the height of it.  Everything that you guys have been saying is that these old 19-6's were way too low in the back anyway.
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: gran398 on January 29, 2012, 12:28:08 AM
Spec,

Hey, you're doing good! Big blisters on the outside need to be addressed...and if getting it gone means getting it gone...good...and won't be the first time.

Have no problem with that AC fir core.

The outer transom rebuild:

Best on the board, IMHO, is Bondobill's. Professional work...would duplicate best possible his outer transom install.
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: Spectre5922 on January 29, 2012, 09:54:40 AM
Thanks for the heads up gran. I'll look his rebuild up.
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: swils05 on January 29, 2012, 08:51:37 PM
Spec,
Thanks for the pics, new transom will be sweet.

 Im gonna take a crack at raising the console, did you keep the original console lines and then squared off and blocked the new plywood areas?

Also,what did you use for patching the old big holes??

Thanks again,

Sean
74 19'6
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: Spectre5922 on January 29, 2012, 10:30:57 PM
Quote from: "swils05"
Spec,
Thanks for the pics, new transom will be sweet.

 Im gonna take a crack at raising the console, did you keep the original console lines and then squared off and blocked the new plywood areas?

Also,what did you use for patching the old big holes??

Thanks again,

Sean
74 19'6

You are absolutely right about how I did the top of the console. The way that I got the shape that I wanted was to cut a template out of cardboard until I liked the way that it looked. As far as filling the holes.... All of the larger holes (steering, throttle and tach) were filled with ply plugs that I cut and glasses in. For the smaller holes i just glassed over them.
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: Spectre5922 on February 10, 2012, 04:17:48 PM
Here are a few pics of the console the night that I gel-coated it.  I decided to roll 2 heavy coats of gelcoat as more of a filler coat, then sand it and spray a final coat.  Linden told me that gelcoat was easy to sand.....  Now that I have started sanding it, my only question is, easier than what?  Concrete?  It is going to take me FOREVER to get it sanded and ready for the final coat!  You can see from the pics that the shelf is in and tabbed.  I have a few more coats of varnish to go on the teak doors, then once I get the console sprayed and buffed out, it will be time to mount the electronics!  It is the big stages like this that get me excited!

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Aquasport%2019-6/2-8-121.jpg)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Aquasport%2019-6/2-8-122.jpg)

^^^This is my buddy Linden of Linden's Marine Service standing by the console^^^

The reason that the top looks really wavy in the second picture is because I haven't sanded it yet at this stage, so you can still see the texture from the roller.
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: love2fish on February 10, 2012, 04:29:44 PM
Console looks good! thinking of doing the same thing to mine.
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: slvrlng on February 10, 2012, 04:31:02 PM
Can I copy your console? :D  :D

That looks awesome! Get a orbital sander and get some 600 velcro and sand it with that. It will take the texture out and save you a bunch of time. Then hand sand it with 1000 and then 1500 and buff and your done.
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: Blue Agave on February 10, 2012, 04:38:32 PM
Console looks good!  From the looks of things you guys must have just got done with lunch. I sure miss me some Texas BBQ.
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: Spectre5922 on February 10, 2012, 04:47:37 PM
Quote from: "slvrlng"
Can I copy your console? :D  :D

That looks awesome! Get a orbital sander and get some 600 velcro and sand it with that. It will take the texture out and save you a bunch of time. Then hand sand it with 1000 and then 1500 and buff and your done.

Have at it buddy.   :salut:   I just wanted more room for gauges/VHF/stereo than the stock AS console had room for (it was really tiny).  Now, on the lower half, I'll have the switch panel on the left, then the steering and throttle.  On top, I'll have the 5 gauges on the left, then permanent mount VHF on the right on top and stereo on the right on bottom.  On the very top of the console, I'll have the GPS w/antenna, fish finder and compass.  I decided against putting the anchor light on the console, so it will be mounted at the starboard aft corner like it was when I got the boat.  I also just bought two 2' sections of red led rope light to put under the cap on either side where the rod storage inset is.  Since I now have an account at the parts house, the lighting with the plug and play adapter was under $30 total!  We are even considering fabricating a windshield mount from teak instead of going with a prebent one.

As far as the sanding, I started out with 220 on the DA and it would have taken me around 30+ sheets and several days to sand it.  What I am doing is sanding with 80-150 to get everything baby-butt smooth, then SPRAY at least one coat, if not two of gelcoat.  After that, I'll sand with 800-1000 and buff it out.  The two rolled on coats were pretty much just used like a filling primer/surfacer to catch any pin holes and imperfections that I missed.
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: Spectre5922 on February 10, 2012, 04:53:27 PM
@ love2fish...  Go for it.  You will LOVE the extra room that it creates, PLUS you have a taller console, which raises your windscreen, which keeps more spray off of you.  My AS originally came with a tach, steering, throttle, 2 switches and an ignition button.  Now, it's going to have 5 gauges, a 6 switch panel, hard mount VHF, stereo, steering, throttle, horn button and ignition plus what I'm mounting on the very top.  All of that and none of it will look crowded.

@ Blue Agave...  Thanks man.  It is taking a lot longer than you guys that have a little more free time, but I'm loving the process.  I would rather spend all of this time and money and 1) know what I have and 2) be able to say "I did that".  Yes, we were still drinking our drinks from lunch.  That picture was taken at around 7:00 pm though.  I took it right as we were finishing up and locking up for the night.
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: Blue Agave on February 11, 2012, 05:14:27 PM
Quote from: "Spectre5922"
@ Blue Agave...  Thanks man.  It is taking a lot longer than you guys that have a little more free time, but I'm loving the process.

Lol!  My rebuild took almost three years.  :lol:




Quote from: "Spectre5922"
I would rather spend all of this time and money and 1) know what I have and 2) be able to say "I did that".

Wise man from Texas once told me, "Chop your own wood and it will warm you twice".   :salut:
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: Spectre5922 on February 12, 2012, 08:03:09 AM
I was doing some figuring last night. I got the boat last July, but got a really slow start on it. I am hoping to have it complete by June in time to take it to the beach house that we rented for a week. That would make it around an 11 month build with the first few months not really getting anything done. In essence, the rebuild is taking me around 9 months (of course I'm not finished yet). I guess I shouldn't feel bad after all.
Title: Re: New to the site..... New (old) Aquasport 19-6
Post by: Spectre5922 on February 21, 2012, 12:05:26 AM
Here are a few more pics of what I've been doing.  The first two are of the seat bases that I fabricated for the front of the console.  I just got the high density foam rubber this last weekend and should have them done in the next few days.

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Aquasport%2019-6/2-16-20121.jpg)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Aquasport%2019-6/2-16-20122.jpg)


Here is the transom ALMOST finished.

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Aquasport%2019-6/2-17-2012.jpg)


Here are a few pics of the caps right after glassing them onto the hull.  The whole thing is resin-coated, then I put 2 layers of glass on the bottom and glassed it to the hull caps.  The sides were shaped with a HUGE disc sander to match the hull contour.  Next time, I will glass the rest of them to the hull.

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Aquasport%2019-6/2-17-20121.jpg)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/Phoenix5922/Aquasport%2019-6/2-17-20122.jpg)


From what I have read, the caps are a structural part of the hull, so what better way than to go ahead and glass it in solid?  Not only that, but it cuts WAY back on the amount of teak maintenance required on the boat!

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