Classic AquaSport
General Aquasport Forums => Aquasport Discussion => Topic started by: TurboGSR96 on June 25, 2011, 12:06:35 PM
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Whats up everyone, I found a 1984 22' cc for sale local to me and I am going to look at it on monday, this will be the first boat I have owned myself.... the owner is asking $5k for it with a 1993 Johnson 200 and a trailer. I looked up the prices online for the boat and the price seems kind of high. The owner said he put a new water pump, fuel pump, brain and a few other things on the motor recently but it still needs some work (think he said carb's). I asked about the Transom and the floor and he said they all look good and as far as he knows un-restored.
From my research on this site I should check the floor well around the console and the transom, would I have access to the fuel tank area without ripping the boat apart? Looks like it has trim tabs which from my research is a good thing... can anyone tell me more about this model I have not seen any that look like it on this site yet.
Here is a picture.... only one I have right now, I will take a bunch when I look at it.
Any comments or concerns appreciated! Thanks in advance
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/TurboTeg96/123.jpg)
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Should plan on a tank replacement. To get to the tank, the console needs to be taken off. Other than that, jump on the deck to look for soft spots, check transom for any flex. If it is solid, there should be no flex at all. I like to put the motor down and stand on the lower unit. Another way is to put the motor alll the way up and just bounce it up and down, again should be no movement.
$5k is a little steep though.
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I agree 5 is high,for that price motor should be 100%,not "needs work,maybe carbs"maybe carbs,maybe a powerhead,be careful,If you are really interested in this boat pay a marine tech to go over it,buyer beware.
here is an 83 with an 03 motor for 5200
http://spacecoast.craigslist.org/boa/2444252220.html (http://spacecoast.craigslist.org/boa/2444252220.html)
another newer motor
http://spacecoast.craigslist.org/boa/2449353085.html (http://spacecoast.craigslist.org/boa/2449353085.html)
one more
http://spacecoast.craigslist.org/boa/2388882101.html (http://spacecoast.craigslist.org/boa/2388882101.html)
4000 tops if motor checks out dont take his word for it,good luck
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I'm with the shipmates. If you really like it... 3K out the door max....figuring 1200 for the trailer, 800 for the hull, and 500 for the motor..that adds up to 2500. So 3K may be high. Not to beat it down, just running numbers.
Otherwise...lets keep looking. Still a buyers market for pretty much anything.
PS...forgot the top and radio box. Another 500. That's 3K.
And....welcome aboard :thumright:
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Thanks for the replies fella's I thought the price seemed a little steep, I am not coming out of pocket on this deal at all we were going to negotiate a trade, but my trade is certainly worth more than this boat so I am not sure at this point... kind of hard to find someone looking to trade a boat for a backhoe so I was a little excited, fishing from the shoreline is getting very annoying. lol
Does the transom area look right to you guys from the picture? Most of the other models I see on this site that area is wider at the hull and also lower in the early 80's models, I have not seen very many pics of 84's on this site so maybe thats why.
If the boat has had no deck work or transom work after 27 years, whats the percentage chance that the wood in there is wet and needs to be replaced? Seems like most of you from looking through the threads had to replace something in those area's.
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Almost a twin of mine! Blue rubrail, stripes and same transom setup. Look and see if it had the captains chairs, if it did Aquasport did not seal the screw holes and my hatch was soaked and weighed about 120 lbs. If it is the original tank I would replace, mine had already been done. This one has a Ttop and tabs so that is a plus but add those into what I paid for mine and you still don't get 5K. (I got mine for half that). Like everybody has already said look for softspots and transom flex, but I just don't see 5K. My $0.02.
Some pics of mine so you can compare.
(http://i669.photobucket.com/albums/vv60/Lewis55/Slipaway%20---1984%20Aquasport%20222/slipaway222016.jpg)
(http://i669.photobucket.com/albums/vv60/Lewis55/Slipaway%20---1984%20Aquasport%20222/slipaway222157.jpg)
(http://i669.photobucket.com/albums/vv60/Lewis55/Slipaway%20---1984%20Aquasport%20222/slipaway222035.jpg)
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Thanks for the pics! I love the dual boxes out back. Hopefully the guy is willing to fork out some cash but from the ad he said he was looking for equal trades. If I can get a few grand out of the guy I am going to jump all over it... that will pay for a nice plotter and a fish finder and a set of outriggers for trolling.
I think I do remember the owner mentioning the motor had a new power head as well on top of the other stuff, he said he is willing to put it in the water so I am definately going to do that. I am not too worried about the tank my friend owns a large custom sheetmetal shop I can get a tank made for just materials and anything else I need, but I will definately try to inspect the tank if I can get to it.
What kind of speed do you get out of your 83 22' with the Johnson on the back? (assuming 200)
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Sadly I have been covered up with work and vacation stuff and haven't got it in the water yet. That issue will be addressed after the 4th. Mine has a 94 175 on it, the PO said it would run around 40 but who knows! The port box is a livewell, the starboard is dry storage where the battery switches reside. Here is another pic of the transom. When you check it out get the HIN and post it. I am very interested to see what it says.
(http://i669.photobucket.com/albums/vv60/Lewis55/transom%20view/Waterfall2001.jpg)
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found this near me too, seems like a better deal but looks like one of the engines needs work... not sure what year but its a 22'
"counter rotating 200 mariners with stainless props, transom and hull in good condition, comes with tandem axle boat trailer that was just rebuilt, one motor needs a head, ran last summer and winterized by professional mechanic/owner who passed away, trailer was just rebuilt, will consider guns in trade" $2900
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/TurboTeg96/124.jpg)
Isnt 400hp a little excessive for this boat?
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(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/TurboTeg96/124.jpg)
Isnt 400hp a little excessive for this boat?[/quote]
Not if you have your pilot's license.... :lol: Dude, that rig would fly...
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:lol: :lol: Marc!
Kinda hard to tell by the photo, but looks a little longer than 22....maybe a redone 24...
Definitely old. And yep, way too much power. One 200 on a 22-2 would be a ball of fire.
Is it on Craigslist somewhere?
You could sell the blown one...
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I kinda figured this thing was extremely overpowered, then again it would probably cruise 40mph just sipping gas. If I was to just run one engine then I would be left with 2 sets of holes in the transom and I would be making a new set.... how would I go about fixing the old holes?
Yes it is on craigslist and I made a mistake it is a 24'er
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Are there any more pics on crackslist...post a link if u like.
Should be fine with the single....filling holes is no biggee...ck the rebuild section.
Hope to see more pics....we'll all figure out what she is :thumright:
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If this is your first boat I would suggest getting a marine survey and valuation from an accredited surveyor...remember, these boats have a lot of wood in them and the marine surveyor can get in there good with a moisture meter and all other major items as well as things you can't see. Peace of mind plays a huge role for me. Just my opinion and good luck with your search.
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...remember, these boats have a lot of wood in them and the marine surveyor can get in there good with a moisture meter and all other major items as well as things you can't see.
These boats DO NOT have a lot of wood in them compared to other boats. In that year the transom is wood and the underside of the sole. The important stuff like the stringers are not wood, when everyone else made there's out of wood.
I agree that a survey is probably a good idea but have also heard from an seller's point of view that a surveyor can sure damage a boat from all that poking with picks and such.
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did u look at the 22 center console was there an issue with it please advise as i was going to look at it also
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...remember, these boats have a lot of wood in them and the marine surveyor can get in there good with a moisture meter and all other major items as well as things you can't see.
These boats DO NOT have a lot of wood in them compared to other boats. In that year the transom is wood and the underside of the sole. The important stuff like the stringers are not wood, when everyone else made there's out of wood.
I agree that a survey is probably a good idea but have also heard from an seller's point of view that a surveyor can sure damage a boat from all that poking with picks and such.
I am no boat builder and for that reason before I purchased my Explorer I searched for a marine surveyor. 2 surveyors told me aquasports have a lot of wood, they both would have performed moisture meter testing to be sure I was not buying a wet boat.
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did u look at the 22 center console was there an issue with it please advise as i was going to look at it also
Not yet, his asking price is so high up there I dont know if its even worth the time.
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...remember, these boats have a lot of wood in them and the marine surveyor can get in there good with a moisture meter and all other major items as well as things you can't see.
These boats DO NOT have a lot of wood in them compared to other boats. In that year the transom is wood and the underside of the sole. The important stuff like the stringers are not wood, when everyone else made there's out of wood.
I agree that a survey is probably a good idea but have also heard from an seller's point of view that a surveyor can sure damage a boat from all that poking with picks and such.
I am no boat builder and for that reason before I purchased my Explorer I searched for a marine surveyor. 2 surveyors told me aquasports have a lot of wood, they both would have performed moisture meter testing to be sure I was not buying a wet boat.
Not trying to argue with you, just making sure you understand what you purchased. I'm sure they check every boat the same and probably put the fear of God into you so you would use their services. Just so you know, Aquasports were known for industry leading woodless construction - SB can chime in here support this claim from a builders point of view, since he build Aquasports for a few years.
The year Explorer you have has a poured transom and the stringers have no wood (mine too in '92). Above the transom on both sides is wood but is not structural - supports the lifting eyes in the back. The sole has end-core balsam like most other boats, the top of the cabin (seat up front) has wood backing and the hatches are backed with wood. The walkways around the cabin probably are backed with wood too.
My buddy - a non-boater - bought what he thought was a good boat (I think it was an older Grady) and asked me to check it out. I opened access to the bilge and could tell immediately that the stingers were wood and soaked - no poking or anything. Looked like 2x16s or something. I could scrape soaked wood from their sides :shock: Luckily he was able to back out of the deal.
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Thank you for the info Rick !!!
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slvrlng you got the Slipaway looking good. I sure do miss her. I am the one who sold it to you by the way.
Saw your post about the speed I have had it about 43 in according to the gps. did you get the gas gage working? I have got to get me another bout especially since I have taking up Scuba diving. Well I sure hope you are enjoying it as much as I did. :D
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Holy crap Jason!!!! How the heck are you and the wife? Man, I guess the kid your wife was so pregnant with is what maybe 3 now? Welcome aboard!!! Are you still in Windsor forest?