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Title: Live well, courtesy lights and fish box pumpout died
Post by: South Bay on May 30, 2011, 03:03:29 PM
1995 Osprey 200

Is there a fuse for these?

Horn, Bilge pump. navigation lights work

Any low tech ideas? (I'm not the most mechanical guy)
Title: Re: Live well, courtesy lights and fish box pumpout died
Post by: seabob4 on May 30, 2011, 04:54:23 PM
These are all on the helm switch/breaker panel.  Each breaker is daisy chained.  Start with the breakers, make sure the wiring is secure...
Title: Re: Live well, courtesy lights and fish box pumpout died
Post by: Mcdiver on June 01, 2011, 09:11:03 PM
also look for corrosion on connections.  sounds like a switch or fuse.
Title: Re: Live well, courtesy lights and fish box pumpout died
Post by: T Race on June 21, 2011, 11:45:04 AM
Quote from: "seabob4"
These are all on the helm switch/breaker panel.  Each breaker is daisy chained.  Start with the breakers, make sure the wiring is secure...

  Seabob,

    Could you please explain the concept of "daisy chained"  :scratch:  breakers (or redirect me to an explanation if it is painfully involved)?  I have a basic understanding of circuit flow, but I am unfamiliar with this concept.  

         Cheers, T.
Title: Re: Live well, courtesy lights and fish box pumpout died
Post by: flounderpounder225 on June 21, 2011, 12:22:19 PM
Quote from: "T Race"
Quote from: "seabob4"
These are all on the helm switch/breaker panel.  Each breaker is daisy chained.  Start with the breakers, make sure the wiring is secure...

  Seabob,

    Could you please explain the concept of "daisy chained"  :scratch:  breakers (or redirect me to an explanation if it is painfully involved)?  I have a basic understanding of circuit flow, but I am unfamiliar with this concept.  

         Cheers, T.

T
When people use the term "Daisy Chained" in electrical terminology, what they are saying is that all the common power sides of the breakers have the same wire running to them, just jumped from one to the next and so on.  Theoretically, if you have have power into the first breaker in line, then the rest would also have power, that is called the "line" side, then you have the "Load" side, which is the outbound side of the breaker which is completed  and interupted by the individual switch for whichever component that switch is operating.  To begin checking the switch breaker panel, you just need a test light, the alligator clip of the test light must be connected to a good Battery Ground, there is usually a negative "bus" in the console which you can attach to.  Then you begin to probe the heavy red wire which is leading into your panel, input side; output side; input side of switch; output side of switch (Switch must be ON of course) your test light should illuminate at each of the points along the switch panel.  When it doesn't light, you have found where the circuit is being interupted, usually a bad breaker which is corroded and "open" or a switch that is the same.  If everything lights up on the panel, you are now off to each of the components to check the power coming into them, and to make sure your ground is good for each item.  More on that later.  Hope I haven't gone too far.
Marc
Title: Re: Live well, courtesy lights and fish box pumpout died
Post by: seabob4 on June 21, 2011, 12:31:02 PM
Take a look at this drawing...
(http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh301/seabob4/Proline%20website%20pics/Wiring%20Diagrams/HelmWiring2.jpg)

See how the first 10A breaker on the left is fed from the hull harness, then continues on down the line to the last breaker.  This is "daisy-chaining"...
Title: Re: Live well, courtesy lights and fish box pumpout died
Post by: flounderpounder225 on June 21, 2011, 02:00:58 PM
Very nice Bob,  :salut:
Title: Re: Live well, courtesy lights and fish box pumpout died
Post by: T Race on June 22, 2011, 01:06:29 AM
Marc and Bob,

    cheers  :drunken: to you both for making me a little smarter.   The description followed by the schematic made it all clear, I understand completely.  Fortunately, I don't have any electrical challenges on our new Explorer so I got that going for me...

    Your willingness to help out the new guys is really great, this is a really worthwhile site thanks to folks like you two.  

    Maker's Mark for EVERYONE !!  Best wishes, T.
Title: Re: Live well, courtesy lights and fish box pumpout died
Post by: John Jones on June 22, 2011, 08:28:32 AM
Quote from: "seabob4"
These are all on the helm switch/breaker panel.  Each breaker is daisy chained.  Start with the breakers, make sure the wiring is secure...

 :thumright:

If they all quit at the same time, look for something in common.  Probably lost the feed to a couple of breakers or lost a common ground.
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