Classic AquaSport
Aquasport Model Rebuilds, Mods, Updates and Refreshes => Paints, topsides and bottom and Gelcoat Topics => Topic started by: love2fish on May 27, 2011, 09:32:58 AM
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I'm about to get started on my 74, 22-2. It currently has the original white top sides with a blue bottom paint. the bottom paint needs alot of attention. I would like a white bottom with some kind of color on the sides. I have a rebuild thread going already for pictures.
Has anyone used the Vivid bottom paint?
I'm wondering if I sand off enough of the blue bottom paint that I need to either use the vivid to cover it or if just a primer with regular topside paint would work. (I dont really know about paint so I'm open for suggestions/advice).
The boat is on a trailer and will at most spend a weekend in the water so I dont think prolonged exposure is an issue.
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There are services out there who will come to you and soda blast the bottom and completely remove the bottom paint without damaging the gelcoat and a heck of alot healthier than breathing bottom paint grinding dust. Scott(gran398) is getting his done in Wilmington NC but I'm sure we have someone down here to do it.
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My boat has bottom paint on it now and it lives on a trailer as well. I'm also looking for a good bottom paint that is suitable for my use. the Vivid looks good but I'm sure there is other products out there that have a hard smooth finish. I had a soda blast quote and it was to much $$$$ for me considering my boat has only a thin coat of paint on the bottom. If it had several layers built up on it the soda blasting would be worth it.
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WT, I'd try another quote....They're gonna do my entire hull for $200.00.
Everyone I've spoken with says its a terrific time-saver.
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WT, I'd try another quote....They're gonna do my entire hull for $200.00.
Everyone I've spoken with says its a terrific time-saver.
Yeah they wanted $ 1500 here in Pcola to do my 245... its alot of hull but.... I sanded it off, and painted with the Interlux VC performance Epoxy, it is a hard 2-part epoxy with teflon in it, very slick finish, as slick as gelcoat, but you can roll and tip it, or just roll it with a quality sponge roller, we did the latter. Turned out great, picked up 3 MPH from the nasty bottom paint that was on there. They also make VC Offshore Epoxy for boats that stay in the water, its ablative, the regular VC that I used is not. Here was my project
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Looks great...Night and day, you gotta be happy!
Man , I can't believe that quote... :thumbdown:
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Looks great...Night and day, you gotta be happy!
Man , I can't believe that quote... :thumbdown:
Yeah, he's the olny game in town, and I don't think he likes playing with small boats, he is usually nestled-in down in the shipyard giving the big boats on stands a good Screwin... I advised him where he could point his soda blasting nozzle :lol:
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Flounder, that looks great!
So I think I'm overthinking the whole "bottom paint" thing.. basically once I remove the current peeling bottom paint and repair any imperfections on the hull, I can use pretty much any paint right?
Is "topside" paint OK for trailered boats?
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I wouldn't use a topside paint, there are a couple approaches to this, some people take their time and carefully sand off the bottom paint, then start with increasingly fine sanding up to the 1500-2000 range (wet sanding) to completely restore the gelcoat. For me, no way, I wanted to get rid of the ablative bottom paint that requires a re-do every couple years, and have a slick hull for performance. The VC is permanent, and hard. Not sure how a topside paint would perform, it might be ok for a while, but a few years down the road?? Plus it won't be as slick as this stuff, less friction, better performance? Call Interlux paints, they have a great customer service?? Ask them some questions.
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Flounder- how much did you use to paint the bottom? gallon, 1/2 gallon? how many coats?
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Yeah I thought the price the guy quoted me was crazy. It think his price was over $40 per foot. For $200 I'd have it done. Of course the guy quoted me without even seeing the boat. I can see signs that looks like the hulls was sandblasted or something in the past. I only have a single coat of bottom paint on it now so it will be easy to strip off. But due to the previous blasting it will have to be sanded smooth.
Flounder that looks awesome! Thats exactly what I want to do to my boat.
WT, I'd try another quote....They're gonna do my entire hull for $200.00.
Everyone I've spoken with says its a terrific time-saver.
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Guys, after the soda blast....will fill voids, and spray gelcoat.
Initially wanted to shoot Awlgrip....but the builder advised that over time we'd be more pleased with the gel.
Nowhere near the color options as with paint....and nowhere near the initial beauty/gloss. Guess the thinking is, somewhere down the line, the satisfaction curves intersect. Don't know. Have an Awlgripped hull that still looks decent after ten years...have no preference yet to report, but guess we'll spray gel on the 22-2 per recommendation...and will report.
On the running surface....as a retrofit...the VC is a great recommendation. No chipping/peeling...hard.
And if you'd like to place the VC over gel...do it. Lock it down.
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Flounder- how much did you use to paint the bottom? gallon, 1/2 gallon? how many coats?
I bought 2 Gallaon, and we did three coats, had some left over. Tack coat, then a heavy coat, then the next day another coat.
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I am going to try a 4500 psi power washer with a turbo nozzle on my hull. There seems to be 3-4 coats of paint on there and from experience with this washer, I know it can strip the paint off a car. Or at least the chrome off my silverado grill. I'll take pics if it works out.
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I am going to try a 4500 psi power washer with a turbo nozzle on my hull. There seems to be 3-4 coats of paint on there and from experience with this washer, I know it can strip the paint off a car. Or at least the chrome off my silverado grill. I'll take pics if it works out.
Mike
I'm sure you know, but it's worth a mention. The Pressure washer will work, but it will in a New York second get that gelcoat, I know what a trubo nozzle is, and thats a better idea than a small degree tip, but keep it moving and look frequently and closely to how the gelcoat is handling it? Good luck
Marc
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yeah be careful with that much psi with a turbo nozzle on your hull like Flunder said you can blow the gel coat off and start eating into the glass real quick with that kinda power. I've used a turbo nozzle with that kinda pressure before... I Blew the freakin stucco right off my parents town house with it!
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Sounds good. Ya'll reckon that nozzle would be good for athlete's foot?
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