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Title: Just curious.........
Post by: Miguel on December 06, 2005, 07:07:23 PM
..... how many of us are owners of 170´s or 175´s????
I´ve seen a couple of new arrivals around in the galleries.  Please post if you own one, and let the rest of us know your impressions.
I´ll start:
1985 Osprey 170 with a 1993 Mariner 115.  I love the boat.  It is extremely versatile.  My fishing takes place in Panama, where options abound.  It is easy to trailer and works OK in most conditions, from shallow water to offshore on calm days.....
Only thing I don´t like is the relatively shallow V, which makes it pound a little (or a lot) in headseas.  I read someone on THT, who owns a Genmar made 175 that trim tabs work wonders and make a heck of a difference.  I would love to hear from the knowledgeable experts on our forum.
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Post by: JimCt on December 06, 2005, 08:12:54 PM
Hi Miguel!

Mine's an early 70's 170.  No modifications from the original factory issue.  I agree the hull pounds but I suppose that comes with the territorry.  Just a guess, but maybe AS was most concerned with having a shallow draft hull considering  they are Florida boats where there's a lot of shoal water fishing. But with a shallow vee comes pounding.  All hull forms are a compromise.  I think they succeeded very well with their designs in balancing the needs of fishing with some degree of sea-keeping qualities.

I enjoy my boat for what it is; a good utility bay boat with ample open space. They'll tolerate being pushed hard with big engines and are safe, though wet, in reasonable seaway.
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Post by: RickK on December 07, 2005, 05:25:38 AM
I'm in...
I have a 1971 170 that I've owned since 1988.  First had a 150 straight 6 Merc on it (read "fast").  That was replaced with a '88 rude 110 and recently replaced it with a rebuilt '98 115 johnson.
I enjoy the design and it's ability to get in pretty skinny water. Mine will float in about 6 inches of water if you can keep her level. She's a great bay boat and I've taken her out to 10 miles although it was scary having only 8" of freeboard in the aft end. Won't do that again.
They really made these a stout boat back then - you can push in on the hull at any point and there is no give - try that on a new design.
Things I'm sure they've improved over the years:
Stability - my boat is 6ft wide at its widest and from that it is not very stable.  While cruising I can actually steer the boat by moving 1 ft port or starboard from center.  As long as you tell your passenger about this so they stay centered, it's not a big deal.  I think the newer designs must be wider.
Dryness and wave entry- a sharper v in the front would help cut through the waves better (no pounding) and a curve in the upper sides of the front would help throw the waves it cuts through off to the sides farther making it a dryer ride.  My boat has barely any curve to it.  I'll have to look at my neighbor's new one and see what they did.
Overall, I'm happy with her.  I've invested a lot of my life in this boat and she's served me well.  I take care of her and she returns the favor.  (Of course my wife doesn't understand the relationship. :roll: )  I've only been stranded once by the boat and that was because the choke in the key shorted out so that the motor wouldn't start.  Was an easy fix.  If I decide to get another boat, I'll probably still keep her for the bay, there may be some better boats for the bay out there but not by much.  :D
Title: 1988 170 Osprey
Post by: Anonymous on December 07, 2005, 10:03:58 AM
Hello, I have a 1988 170 Osprey with a 130 hp Yamaha that I have owned since 1989. I have  taken her everywhere from the Fla. Keys (over 600 miles from my house) to freshwater lakes and rivers. I have fished inshore reefs, and bays and also freshwater lakes and rivers. My two daughters now 20 and 23 literally grew up with this boat. We have fished, skied, scuba dived, together and there is no way they would ever let me part with her. So many of our family memories are associated with our boat that I really can't imagine what our family would have been like without her. I had owned several type boats when I began to research what would be the best boat for my young family back in 1989. I needed a boat that trailered well because I knew that I would use this boat in several different bodies of water. I needed a safe boat that was well built and would hold up under ocean use conditions. I also needed a boat that could be used for water sports and also fishing. I knew that I didn't want a boat that had a lot of high maint. interior items that would deteriate quickly. I also knew that I wanted a boat that had a "classic design" that would not age.( I fiqure you guys know what I mean :).  Well to make a long story short my list of potential boats got very short with the 170 Osprey at the top. When I brought her home in 1989 our whole family immediately fell in love with her and we still consider her to be a part of the family. I can honestly say that buying that boat was one of the best decisions that I ever made. I can't wait to introduce my grandchildren to the family boat one day..
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Post by: Mr. Osprey on December 07, 2005, 07:49:18 PM
What's up guys,
I've got a 1984 170 Osprey powered by a V4 1984 Mercury 75hp. It's a great boat that I've done a lot of work on these last few months. Took off the origanal blue striping(since it already came off on one side) and did a new boot in black. Looks pretty good with new boot and finished wood. Right now the steering is out because I stripped it and am in the processes of replacing. The 170 is a great overall boat. I use it mostly for wakeboarding, tubing, fishing, sking, and more tubing in Orleans on Cape Cod. Great hull but is very hard and wet in choppy seas. Great classic boat that you can use for about anything.
Title: A/S 17 O/B
Post by: Gipper on December 07, 2005, 08:10:57 PM
I just picked up a 1974 17 that had been submerged in Long Island Sound for a week.  It came with a 1973 Dilly trailer and a 1984 Johnson 90hp V4.  First task was to remove the OB and put it on a stand in the garage.  I'll cover the boat until the weather warms up.  In the meantime I will completely rebuilt the V4.   Picture are already posted.
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Post by: Miguel on December 09, 2005, 08:42:25 AM
C´mon guys....  Keep them coming.....
Mr. Osprey.  I´d really like to see that new black boot.  Do you have any pictures?
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Post by: RickK on December 09, 2005, 06:41:55 PM
there's gotta be more than 6..... :roll:
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Post by: JimCt on December 09, 2005, 07:48:51 PM
Last time I talked to Deckdaddy he had one... real nice one with the original stern boxes.
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Post by: Miguel on December 13, 2005, 08:51:35 AM
You are all going to make me eat my words.....  I tought there were more of us owners of 170´s around......
Title: 1986
Post by: Reasons on December 13, 2005, 11:49:02 AM
Just brought home a 1986 17 with a 1989 115 Merc, T top ,leaning post, GPS, Depth finder, salwater washdown and a killer stereo. What is the difference in the 17 and 175?
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Post by: Bluesbrother on December 13, 2005, 02:32:47 PM
:lol: He He, I bet there are more 19.6-200 owners :D
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Post by: JimCt on December 13, 2005, 03:47:07 PM
Bluesbrother, did AS make as many 170's?
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Post by: Anonymous on December 13, 2005, 04:16:42 PM
I bought my first AS in the spring.  Its a '74 with a 1990 mercury outboard.  great shape, bought from the original owner believe it or not.  still has the green rub rail intact, in fact, its in great shape all around.  minimal spider cracks in the get coat around the transom, but nothing serious.  I love it and can't wait for spring, which can't come soon enough here in frozen new england.
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Post by: Deck Daddy on December 13, 2005, 04:36:13 PM
Yep, 1973 17' with a 90hp yammy and the original stern boxes redone. I have owned the boat since 2001. Bought it from a kid in south Miami When I lived in Hollywood. Great boat tops out at 33knts with 2 people and gear. She has been a great boat, fished from Ft Laud to Key West and all over Cape Cod and the Islands. Picked her up as a handy man special. Put many hard hours of elbow grease into her and she has never let me down. She is a bumpy ride at WOT in a chop, but throttle back some and she smoothes out some. I kept the stern boxes because they give me more storage and a live bait well if needed. All in all she is a pretty good all around boat. Even caught in 4-6 foot seas I felt just as safe as if I were in 24 footer. But after 5 years I still have 2 foot envy. So to cure all that I want a 22'2 or 20 ft WAC. But we shall see what Uncle Sam has in store for me first.
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Post by: JimCt on December 13, 2005, 06:06:59 PM
Deck Daddy,
 No transfer yet?  You put in for Florida again?  That's where most of the 222's live.
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Post by: Deck Daddy on December 13, 2005, 06:29:37 PM
JimCT,
Nope, nothing yet. But it looks like I may be going inland, way inland. But only time will tell. I will know more after the New Year.
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Post by: Miguel on December 13, 2005, 09:49:32 PM
Hey, Reasons....
Please post some pictures of your new boat.  I´m curious about your T-top and washdown system.  Where is the intake?
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Post by: Bluesbrother on December 14, 2005, 07:15:49 AM
I have no idea which model AS produced more of... :wink:
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Post by: JimCt on December 14, 2005, 08:30:37 AM
Maybe steved, Official Historian,  knows.
Title: posted in new topic instead of reply
Post by: gchop on December 14, 2005, 09:35:23 AM
Instead of putting my post as a reply I made a new post. Can this be moved to this string ??

Sorry Guys, George
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Post by: RickK on December 15, 2005, 05:37:38 AM
Quote from: "Bluesbrother"
:lol: He He, I bet there are more 19.6-200 owners :D

I think you're the only one in the place  :D .  Course you'll have to start your OWN thread to find out  :P  (this one's is OURS)
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Post by: Bluesbrother on December 15, 2005, 07:59:11 AM
It takes one for the rest to follow... Besides, I have an extra 2.6 ft of pleasure :lol:
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Post by: Reasons on December 15, 2005, 09:00:50 AM
Miguel, The t top attaches to the console at the bottom. I'll get you some pics. Its made with inch and a half stainless.   ADD ... The intake is located on the port side about 7 or 8 inches from the keel 18 inches forward of the transom, the pump is located under the deck on the starboard side
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Post by: Miguel on December 17, 2005, 10:12:45 AM
I see new additions to our clan......  Please post here.  I´ll start making a list and calling you by name if you don´t show up!!!!
As I have said many times before, post pics if you can.  It is very fun and enlightnening to see waht others boat´s look like.  We can learn a lot from each other.
Hey, RickK, good job hearding everyone in......
Title: Merry Christmas
Post by: DoOver on December 26, 2005, 11:02:20 PM
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!. Oh yea I got one too.  Bought her  in 96. I loved her lines the minute I saw her. Had a 65 Johnson than a 115 V4 and now a 140 Johnson. I fish mostly out of Westport, Ct. across to Northport and Cold Spring Harbor on the Long Island Sound. I moved the battery to the box infront of the console. And had a canvas pilot house made to cover the console. That's a real life saver because me and my honey fish after work almost every night. Coming in at 11PM it's nice to have some cover. The boats  still stock with the orginal green deck and rub rail. I rebuilt the old steel trailer and put a heavy duty axel. It pulls great. I'm looking for a bigger boat to fish south of Block Island. But our 17 is not for sale.  Brian
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Post by: jy118lfd on December 27, 2005, 08:10:49 AM
Sorry to highjack your thread BUT


Two of us
 :P

 1973 19-6 here
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Post by: JimCt on December 27, 2005, 08:28:08 AM
In reading over the 170 posts & hearing about different configurations, maybe we should develop a single photo album dedicated to the 170's & 175's.  This might be a good "One-Stop" resource for comparing modifications (tabs, splash boards, mechanicals, tanks) & seeing the changes AS made over the years.  As things are organised right now, 170's are scattered all over among various member galleries & posts.

An addition which would enhance a 170 photo gallery would be pictures of our boats in the water & in motion.  For instance, I'd like to see the trim of Brian's boat with the 140 on it; both at the dock & at speed.  Same thing with Miguel's trim tab project; before & after pictures showing the trim change at various speeds.  

Anyone second the motion?
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Post by: RickK on December 27, 2005, 08:33:50 AM
Quote from: "JimCt"
In reading over the 170 posts & hearing about different configurations, maybe we should develop a single photo album dedicated to the 170's & 175's.  This might be a good "One-Stop" resource for comparing modifications (tabs, splash boards, mechanicals, tanks) & seeing the changes AS made over the years.  As things are organised right now, 170's are scattered all over among various member galleries & posts.

An addition which would enhance a 170 photo gallery would be pictures of our boats in the water & in motion.  For instance, I'd like to see the trim of Brian's boat with the 140 on it; both at the dock & at speed.  Same thing with Miguel's trim tab project; before & after pictures showing the trim change at various speeds.  

Anyone second the motion?

I can take a pic of mine at rest but can't swim fast enough..... :wink: and who would drive then?
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Post by: RickK on December 27, 2005, 08:35:54 AM
Quote from: "jy118lfd"
Sorry to highjack your thread BUT


Two of us
 :P

 1973 19-6 here

I guess AS did make more than one  :lol:
With two of you, now there's a reason to start your own thread  :wink:
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Post by: Anonymous on December 27, 2005, 09:02:49 AM
Rick,  That's no real problem.  You jump in the water with you innertube & camera and your wife runs the boat by you at WOT.

That'll work, won't it?
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Post by: JimCt on December 27, 2005, 09:04:08 AM
OOPS! forgot to log in...
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Post by: RickK on December 27, 2005, 09:24:27 AM
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Rick,  That's no real problem.  You jump in the water with you innertube & camera and your wife runs the boat by you at WOT.

That'll work, won't it?

Boy, that'll be payback time :lol:   (Besides, I've seen her drive - I'll pass.)
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Post by: Miguel on December 27, 2005, 12:23:51 PM
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In reading over the 170 posts & hearing about different configurations, maybe we should develop a single photo album dedicated to the 170's & 175's. This might be a good "One-Stop" resource for comparing modifications (tabs, splash boards, mechanicals, tanks) & seeing the changes AS made over the years. As things are organised right now, 170's are scattered all over among various member galleries & posts.

I suggested this idea on one of my first posts..... However, it was disregarded.  Maybe we shall team up and make our voices be heard.  
Something the 19-6 owners won´t be able to do... Maybe it´ll sound more like a whisper...[/quote]
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Post by: Bluesbrother on December 27, 2005, 03:06:18 PM
Ah, starting to get numbers....I bet the 19-6 has many different lay outs, wasn't it the longest produced AS model ? :lol:
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Post by: Miguel on December 27, 2005, 10:35:01 PM
Hello......
Hey, DoOver:  What performance are you getting with that 140HP hanging on the transom?  Are you doing anything above 45mph?  I´ve always tought that the 170 hull has a terminal speed of about 40mph, above which only enormous increases in HP will make noticable increases in mph.....Than again, a very large engine will make our boat sit with the stern ridiculously  close to the waterline.......
JimCT:  My trim tab project is not a project yet.  Boating budget is somewhat contrained due to my our child....Form some reason my wife thinks that diapers and baby formula are more important than a couple of sheet metal thingies hanging off the back of the boat.......Just kidding..  I agree with her on that one!!
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Post by: JimCt on December 28, 2005, 08:10:20 AM
Miguel,  I hear you... There's always a piority list.   Many times a delay in doing a project is good; like finding a good deal on the tabs you want.
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Post by: Mr. Osprey on December 28, 2005, 10:30:09 AM
I second JimCT. Showing pictures of Aquasports in motion would/could be of great help to others. I also agree with Miguel in terms that it is pretty cool to see other forum memebers boats to see what other poeple have as setups. I try to post some pics of my Osprey soon but be warned, it ain't pretty right now since I'm in the middle of doing work on it. :wink:
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Post by: gchop on December 28, 2005, 12:34:43 PM
I am in, will attempt to post pics of my boat ( under reconstruction) soon!
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Post by: JimCt on December 28, 2005, 04:03:55 PM
Perhaps best way to do the pictures archive would be to have Captain set up headers in the Photo Gallery.  Headers would be named 165, 170, 175 and so on for all the hulls.  Each of us can then toss our pictures in based on what we've got, or pictures of other AS's we see in out travels.  Obviously this won't take the place of the Member Galleries but will make it easier & faster to see who's got what.  Also a good research tool.  Maybe Steved's got some ideas on this...

Right now Captain & Mrs. Captain are having a baby, I think; haven't seen him around lately.  Is somone else authorised to decide on this and able to create the categories in the Gallery?  Maybe Wilson??

Please kick in any & all ideas on this.
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Post by: DoOver on December 28, 2005, 09:14:30 PM
Quote from: "Miguel"
Hello......
Hey, DoOver:  What performance are you getting with that 140HP hanging on the transom?  Are you doing anything above 45mph?  I´ve always tought that the 170 hull has a terminal speed of about 40mph, above which only enormous increases in HP will make noticable increases in mph.....Than again, a very large engine will make our boat sit with the stern ridiculously  close to the waterline.......
JimCT:  My trim tab project is not a project yet.  Boating budget is somewhat contrained due to my our child....Form some reason my wife thinks that diapers and baby formula are more important than a couple of sheet metal thingies hanging off the back of the boat.......Just kidding..  I agree with her on that one!!

 

Hey Miguel,
  The best I ever did on a windless, smooth as glass night was 39.8 on my GPS. Two people on board. I don't have a tach so I'm not sure if I have the right prop, but, with out a GPS, you would swear you where going 60 mph!!! I don't have a digi camera so I don't have any in water photo's. But come spring I'll get some up and running. 40 degrees tonight seems like springs right around the corner. Brian
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Post by: RickK on December 29, 2005, 07:33:20 AM
Hey JimCT, now that DoOver is aboard you can compare boats and see if you really have a 72 (in the spring though).
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Post by: RickK on December 29, 2005, 07:44:38 AM
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I´ve always tought that the 170 hull has a terminal speed of about 40mph, above which only enormous increases in HP will make noticable increases in mph.....Than again, a very large engine will make our boat sit with the stern ridiculously  close to the waterline.......

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The best I ever did on a windless, smooth as glass night was 39.8 on my GPS. Two people on board. Brian


Last week, after I installed my new Garmin 188C, I was out alone to check it out (has WAY more to it than I'll ever use) and after tweaking the trim the best I could get was 39.9mph out of my 115 Johnson.  Could not hit/break the 40 barrier no matter what I did, just started porpoising.  Just got the stabilizer plate in yesterday.  Says it will, among other things, improve speed. Will let you know.
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Post by: JimCt on December 29, 2005, 08:33:42 AM
With the 75 Merc I top out at ~32 (GPS).  On a glassy surface, that's fine, but most of the time I'm at 50% - 80% throttle.  WOT speed is just too much, even at my slower top speed, for me to feel comfortable... or safe.

Ride is one thing but spotting & avoiding floating objects is of greatest concern.  Up here, after the spring freshets in the river, there's frequent floating trash; logs, branches & various bits & pieces.  Some logs which come down the river and get into Long Island Sound are BIG and just barely afloat.  Hit one of those puppies and the day is done.

DoOver, if you still have your builder's plate on the 170, what's your S/N?  Also, where's your fuel tank located?
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Post by: Mr. Osprey on December 29, 2005, 09:43:08 AM
With my 84' 75hp Merc, I topped out at 29.9 MPH with the  trim slightly tilted up. Like JimCT, I too only go 50-80% because going WOT all the time is unhealthy for the motor.
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Post by: RickK on December 29, 2005, 10:59:07 AM
I agree that WOT is just a problem waiting to happen and I stay around 30mph or less for the most part.  Just gotta see what she'll do, in short bursts, though.  :twisted:
I'll go out for 4+ hrs and only put 1hr, or less, on the main motor - the rest is on the electric trolling motor in the shallows - fishin'  :mrgreen: .
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Post by: RickK on December 29, 2005, 11:06:15 AM
Quote from: "JimCt"
Perhaps best way to do the pictures archive would be to have Captain set up headers in the Photo Gallery.  Headers would be named 165, 170, 175 and so on for all the hulls.  Each of us can then toss our pictures in based on what we've got, or pictures of other AS's we see in out travels.  Obviously this won't take the place of the Member Galleries but will make it easier & faster to see who's got what.  Also a good research tool.  Maybe Steved's got some ideas on this...

Right now Captain & Mrs. Captain are having a baby, I think; haven't seen him around lately.  Is somone else authorised to decide on this and able to create the categories in the Gallery?  Maybe Wilson??

Please kick in any & all ideas on this.

Maybe give us the headers as you suggest and then we can enter our names as hotlinks to our photo gallerys - this will save space.  Being able to compare two pics at a time would be nice but haven't seen that option anywhere.
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Post by: DoOver on December 29, 2005, 12:36:14 PM
Hey Rick, yea my boat also porpoised. I thought maybe to much weight in the bow. I got one of those light weight anchors. But in reality I never go that fast anyway.It was a  perfect night to do a speed run. I also swear the 140 uses less gas than the 3 cyl. 65 I had on the boat when I got it. I don't troll, mostly chunk for bass or drift for fluke.
Hey Jim, no I don't have the original plate. It was  removed to be saved and I can't seem to remember where I saved it. It was badly corroded and when I cleaned everything off the transom I removed the plate also. Would the reggie have the number on it? My fuel tank is on the deck under the console.  P.S. How do you guys break out the  quotes? When I do it the whole post comes up. Brian.
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Post by: Anonymous on December 29, 2005, 01:53:53 PM
DoOver,  My plate is plastic and was mounted on the inside of the transom on the port side.  Yours is aluminum & was mounted on the outside?

 The hull ID number (HIN) will be printed on your registration form.  If the number has a "Z" as the third character in the hull number, it's an assigned HIN.  That would mean that your hull was likely produced before Nov. of '72 (I think that's the date).  After that date I believe all boats had HIN's assigned at the factory.

Do you have a cooler located under the seat ahead of the console?  Not the seat at the bow, but the one molded as part of the console...
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Post by: JimCt on December 29, 2005, 03:34:50 PM
That's me above.  Logging in seems to be a challange for me....

 :oops:
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Post by: RickK on December 29, 2005, 05:39:35 PM
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That's me above.  Logging in seems to be a challange for me....

 :oops:
JimCT - I have my browser set up to auto log in - I forget where I did it, maybe windows XP asked me and I said yes.

Quote from: "DoOver"
Hey Rick, yea my boat also porpoised. I thought maybe to much weight in the bow.
Porpoising, in my case, is from too much trim. Could be caused by too much weight in aft too? Me? :roll:
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Hey Jim, no I don't have the original plate. It was removed to be saved and I can't seem to remember where I saved it.
Don't you hate when that happens. Someday I'll find that "place where I'll never forget where I put it" and it'll be like a christmas morning from the past  :mrgreen:
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P.S. How do you guys break out the quotes? When I do it the whole post comes up. Brian.
Quotes - when you click the quote button it adds a "
Quote from: username
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Post by: JimCt on December 29, 2005, 06:29:33 PM
My things get lost in the "shuffle".  All I know is that wherever that room is it must be a fair size to hold all the bits & pieces I've left there; wallets, keys, address books, tools and other things that I've forgotten what they are but are there...

Serial number on my builder's plate is C484.  What year that corresponds to I haven't a clue.  I'll shoot off an email to steved, Official Historian, to see if he's been able to uncover any S/N info.

Please post pictures of your boat if you have any available. It'd be real interesting to see the inside layout.
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Post by: DoOver on December 29, 2005, 09:30:54 PM
Well it's my mind that I lost that I miss the most! No cooler in front of the console, but a hollow area that I put the cooler on top of. That's where I relocated the battery and the fuel filter. I had a cooler/seat behind the helm, that I removed for more cock pit room. { Almost like a big Cabo, only not]. I have my reggie in front of me, there is a bunch of numbers, I'm thinking the hull number is   HTN872  I think the plate was plastic. It had 4 AL rivits on the inside of the port transom. It was right by where I had a ladder for the kids to climb in. The plastic was all curled up and ragged. Most of the snow is melted, maybe I can get a throw away camera and get some trailer shots.Brian
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Post by: JimCt on December 29, 2005, 10:29:03 PM
Brian,

You've got the same plate as mine.

What I'm driving at with my questions is if your fuel tank extends forward and occupies the space under the front console seat.  Rick's got a picture posted showing his console removed exposing the fuel tank.  If his tank's original, that means (possibly) the area under my fwd. console seat is empty.    There's no trapdoor lid or any way of getting into that area.  In later 170's there is a cooler well in that space with a cushioned cover over it for a seat.  But most of those later boats had their fuel tank under the deck.

If you do manage to get some pictures I'd like to see where your fuel fill plate is and how much of your fuel tank can be seen where you stand behind the console.  Will pull the cover off my boat (if the rain & fog let up) & get some shots of the interior so you can see what I've got.
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Post by: DoOver on December 29, 2005, 11:11:54 PM
Hey Jim, No the seat space on my boat is hollow. It has a plywood cover to make a seat in front of the console.I never gave a thought if it was factory cut or boat owner cut. My fuel fill is on top of the console to the right.The tank holds more or less 24 gallions. The tank height comes up to a ply wood shelf under the console, which is higher than the hight of the seat.What I mean is, the fuel tank can not extend out to the seat area because the seat area is not tall enough. I would drill a small hole in the fiberglass and use a probe to see if your space is hollow. Brian
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Post by: JimCt on December 30, 2005, 08:04:37 AM
Our boats are identical.  Will probe the area when I take the pictures.
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Post by: RickK on December 30, 2005, 08:21:35 AM
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Brian, Rick's got a picture posted showing his console removed exposing the fuel tank.  If his tank's original, that means (possibly) the area under my fwd. console seat is empty.    There's no trapdoor lid or any way of getting into that area.  In later 170's there is a cooler well in that space with a cushioned cover over it for a seat.  But most of those later boats had their fuel tank under the deck.

Jim, the more I think about my console and especially the windshield, I doubt my console is original.  Unless one of the previous owners custom made the windshield to fit the existing console.  That also leaves me wondering about the gas tank - it is 24gal though.
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Post by: JimCt on December 30, 2005, 08:46:44 AM
Rick,  Unless your boat suffered major damage to the console in the past, why would anyone change it?  The windscreen on the other hand, can be considered a "consumable" which might be expected to be replaced over the years.  My guess is your boat is dressed as original.  I'd also bet that yours may be the original config. when the 170 was first introduced.

As the appraiser on Antiques Roadshow says, "You have a National Treasure, sir... a National Treasure"...
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Post by: RickK on December 30, 2005, 09:23:20 AM
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Rick,  Unless your boat suffered major damage to the console in the past, why would anyone change it?  The windscreen on the other hand, can be considered a "consumable" which might be expected to be replaced over the years.
As I said earlier, this boat came from your neck of the woods and going offshore probably prompted someone to add a place to hide - i.e. big windhield.
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My guess is your boat is dressed as original.  I'd also bet that yours may be the original config. when the 170 was first introduced.
 Only the builder knows for sure and we don't have '71 pamphlets to show any difference.

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As the appraiser on Antiques Roadshow says, "You have a National Treasure, sir... a National Treasure"...

I was coming back into the launch area at idle last week and passed an anchored boat with 2 guys fishing from it and one guy shouted something at me.  I couldn't understand what he said so I shut off the motor and told him I couldn't hear him.  He replied "I said, how much do you want for that boat, I want to buy it".  After the initial shock, I told him she was part of the family and wasn't for sale. He said "that's too bad", I started back up and headed the rest of the way in.  Nice way to end a nice fishing day.
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Post by: JimCt on December 30, 2005, 12:47:12 PM
Very nice way to end the day.

Maybe it isn't the fish we catch but the approving pat on the head which matters most.
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Post by: RickK on December 31, 2005, 09:23:12 AM
The friend that was with me thought it was a hoot too.  8)
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Post by: Miguel on February 27, 2006, 09:51:19 PM
I see new names around.... maybe it´s time to give this thread a boost to the top of the list again....
170 owners:  Unite!!!!!!
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Post by: jdupree on February 28, 2006, 09:27:19 AM
Hi guys!  I am new to this site and just purchased a 1988 170.  I most recently sold a 1974 17' mckee craft center console which is made in North Carolina.  It was very similar to a whaler.  It was a very versitle boat but in a light chop would beat you to death.  The main reason I bought the AS was it is in excellent condition for the age and I wanted a v-hull.  I have not had a chance to put the boat in the water yet.  I wish I had found out about this site before I purchased the AS.  

I guess I need some re-assurance about the low transom.  I have read numerous complaints about getting wet and the danger of a following seas.  My 170 does have a bilge pump under the deck.  My fishing will be mostly in the sound at Morehead City, NC.  Will I be able to chop the motor and drift fish like I enjoy or will I be flooded out :? I guess I will know the first time I put this in the water as to what I am up against.  How will the boat ride with 3 or 4 adults in the boat?  Will it dig in?  

Any input that you have to offer would be greatly appreciated.  I just don't want to feel like I have "stepped down" by buying this AS,  but she is a very pretty boat and I feel in love with it when I saw it.  Thanks for any of the advance input that you have to offer, and I will try to post some pics if I can figure it out.
Title: 170 Abilities...
Post by: john on February 28, 2006, 10:07:43 AM
Hello, As the proud owner of a 170 for over 15 years let me assure you that it is ( in my opinion) :) a great boat  for the uses you describe. I fish out of Edisto Beach,S.C. and have never had a problem. I fish a lot in St. Helena Sound where there is often a light chop. Now I am not saying that drifting with 3-5 seas is a good idea in a 170 because I am sure there would be a problem. Under power I have often been in over 3 foot seas but I can't say that it was a lot of fun . I to have had boats that did not have the same V hull that the 170 has and I can tell you that  the 170 (size for size) is 100% better than any of them.  Needless to say I love my boat, good luck... john
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Post by: jdupree on February 28, 2006, 10:30:22 AM
John,

Thanks so much for the reply.  I makes me feel better because my Mckee craft was very versitile but also very heavy and old.  Does your 170 have a bilge pump and where?  What year is your 170?  The last question is can 3 or 4 adults ride in this boat without sinking it down or dragging it?  Thanks again for your response :D
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Post by: JimCt on February 28, 2006, 12:20:59 PM
You'll have no problem with four adults with that Johnson 90.  With one person aboard you should be at 35+mph at WOT.  You'll be happy with the boat.
Title: 170 abilities
Post by: john on February 28, 2006, 06:33:59 PM
Hello again John from N.C.,  My 170 is a 1988  Osprey (same as yours) :)  with a 130 yamaha, and I often have four adults aboard and although it is a little  snug I have never had a problem.  Yes I do have a bilge pump under the access hole in the stern of the boat . I always feel very safe in my boat even when it is loaded with bunch of my daughter's friends. To me the 170 has a classic look that can't be matched. :D            John
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Post by: bamafaninfl on February 28, 2006, 08:17:13 PM
Hello 1977 170 here had it for about 4 years great boat I just put a new 90 yamaha on it two weeks ago. BTW great web site It`s like talking to family. :D
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Post by: Miguel on February 28, 2006, 09:03:53 PM
May I remind you all to post pictures of your boats.........
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Post by: RickK on March 01, 2006, 05:37:37 AM
Hey welcome aboard John, John and Bama!!!  Our 170 family continues to grow  8)
If you have pictures of your babies (AS, that is :lol: ), it's easy to post them:
1. Make sure you're logged in
2. Click on "Photo Gallery" on the green bar above
3. Click on "Upload Photos" on the blue bar
4. Follow the prompts and upload to your member gallery

Simple as that.
Feel free to ask for help if you get confused.
Again, welcome aboard.
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Post by: jdupree on March 01, 2006, 11:31:10 AM
Thanks for the info on how to post pictures.  My 170 needs bottom paint bad but I will post some pics in a day or so anyway.  Thanks for all of the comments and suggestions.  This is a great site and I look forward at the future discussions.  Thanks,
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Post by: jdupree on March 03, 2006, 09:50:55 AM
Has anyone out there ordered a new windshield from the updplastics?  I need on for my 170 and I just wanted to see who has got one and if they were pleased with it.  Thanks,
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Post by: Pat Green on March 03, 2006, 08:44:28 PM
Miguel, Jimct,RickK,and Johnsc have it right on! I have owned a 1970 170 since 1980 (cannot actually remember) I have been tempted by others to sell it or get something else. I will tell you that I spent most of my life in the boat business and have used every boat you can imagine, and I will not let go of my Aquasport. It will do anything you need done. I will say that I also have been concerned about that liittle 8" of freeboard at rear transom in following seas if the motor quit. I once considered building a rear splashwell, but just put on life preservers when conditions merit. Thanks, Pat.
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Post by: JimCt on March 03, 2006, 10:02:29 PM
The low transom freeboard is why I carry a sea anchor.
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Post by: RickK on March 04, 2006, 07:06:13 AM
I wish I could remember where I saw this....I saw a boat that had what looked like a plastic or rubber "splashguard" on their transom that went across the open part and went straight up the transom, from where they attached it at the low part of the transom, and at the top it curved back toward the water.  The top 4 or 5 inches had slices from top to make it flexible.  It wasn't the prettiest thing but I guess it helped fill the void.

Jim have you ever had to use a Sea Anchor? What do you carry?  Something like this (http://www.seaanchor.com/seaanchor.htm)?
Title: Re: Just curious.........
Post by: bamafaninfl on April 23, 2006, 06:15:54 PM
Let`s bump this back up any new members here also post your pics.

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..... how many of us are owners of 170´s or 175´s????
I´ve seen a couple of new arrivals around in the galleries.  Please post if you own one, and let the rest of us know your impressions.
I´ll start:
1985 Osprey 170 with a 1993 Mariner 115.  I love the boat.  It is extremely versatile.  My fishing takes place in Panama, where options abound.  It is easy to trailer and works OK in most conditions, from shallow water to offshore on calm days.....
Only thing I don´t like is the relatively shallow V, which makes it pound a little (or a lot) in headseas.  I read someone on THT, who owns a Genmar made 175 that trim tabs work wonders and make a heck of a difference.  I would love to hear from the knowledgeable experts on our forum.
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Post by: Miguel on May 08, 2006, 10:23:23 PM
Hey Darkdealer, very nice pics!!!  Our boats are very much alike. Mine is a 1985 model.
Time to hear from more 170 owners!!!!!!!!!
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