Classic AquaSport
Aquasport Mechanicals - things that need a wrench, screwdriver or multimeter => Plumbing => Topic started by: pete on August 10, 2010, 10:35:16 PM
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Seabob..
My Osprey has a 8 gal fresh water tank in the hatian hatch in front of the console,2 questions,#1 with all that room in there,why only an 8 gal?a 20 gal would easily fit in there. #2,is there any way to get the 8 gal out and a larger one in...with out cutting up the deck?It is so nice having that fresh water shower out there in this summer heat!Its one of our favorite features. :scratch:
just curious,
pete
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Pete-
Gives me an idea to do the same on my 225 Osprey!
How is the tank plumbed in? Where's your pump / water hose? I wonder how hard it would be for me to rig something like that...
Boats. Always another damn project!
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Me three, on the 245, I have been thinking about that, maybe a bladder instead of a hard shell tank, with a QD to disconnect and remove if needed?? Just thinking...
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sorry guys to start trouble,the tank and pump is under the floor between the console and the forward deck,there is a switch on the dash, one of the aux switches and the sprayer comes out of the transom into the rear door opening,I guess this was an option of the tournament master editions.
fresh water fill
(http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q223/Pete1681/freshwatersys005.jpg)
hatch in front of console seat
(http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q223/Pete1681/freshwatersys003.jpg)
pump
(http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q223/Pete1681/freshwatersys004.jpg)
switch
(http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q223/Pete1681/freshwatersys002.jpg)
sprayer,on right side of doorway
(http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q223/Pete1681/freshwatersys001.jpg)
another view of sprayer outlet
(http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q223/Pete1681/001.jpg)
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OK guys, Pete, you first. By removing the hatch frame, you should be able to get the 8 gallon tank out. The problem you're facing is how would you get a bigger tank in? The solution would be a larger hatch, open up the existing hole to accomodate it. Tanks come in a variety of shapes, find the biggest one that would fit inside a larger hatch opening.
FP and Glock, you guys could do the same. If you stick your head in the hatch and look aft you should see some gap between the deck and the aft b/head that would allow you to feed a hot and ground from the helm into the compartment. The water line ran through a notch in the port side stringer all the way outboard and aft back to the transom Actually fairly easy to run, just need a little patience. Feed the water line out to the hullside, the hullside will help it curve aft.
And yes, the freshwater shower was part of the TM package...BTW, Pete, is that your original pump?
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yep,original pump,any reason as to why only an 8 gal tank?
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:geek: Well, it probably wouldn't be a very expensive project to undertake... Maybe $100 ~$200 I'm guessing?
Thanks for the pics Pete! Now I have everything I need... except a few hours of time!
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Here's an idea :!: Put one of those 5-10 gallon sunshower black bags on top of the t-top and plumb the hose down to a fitting on the pump. That way you will have a nice, warm fresh water shower when you need it. We used to use those sunshower bags in the back areas in Africa - a few hours in the sun and you've got a nice warm shower. So much better than cold water at times and it give you an extra 5 gallons...
http://safetycentral.com/supersunshower.html (http://safetycentral.com/supersunshower.html)
See ya on the water!
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Here's an idea :!: Put one of those 5-10 gallon sunshower black bags on top of the t-top and plumb the hose down to a fitting on the pump. That way you will have a nice, warm fresh water shower when you need it. We used to use those sunshower bags in the back areas in Africa - a few hours in the sun and you've got a nice warm shower. So much better than cold water at times and it give you an extra 5 gallons...
http://safetycentral.com/supersunshower.html (http://safetycentral.com/supersunshower.html)
See ya on the water!
Even better. Hell, why even bother to do the plumbing? That Sunshower bag comes with a built-in shower head! :drunken: Let gravity do the work, and you wouldn't need a pump.
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Sounds like a plan... :thumright:
http://sporting-goods.shop.ebay.com/Spo ... p=15&_sc=1 (http://sporting-goods.shop.ebay.com/Sporting-Goods-/382/i.html?_trkparms=65%253A12%257C66%253A2%257C39%253A1%257C72%253A3790&rt=nc&_nkw=solar+shower&_sticky=1&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_sop=15&_sc=1)
:wink:
See ya on the water!
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OK fellas, I've decided to finally do this project. :D Will be on the East Coast next week, and will be making a detour to Marine Connection Liquidators in Ft. Pierce to pick up the supplies. Please tell me if I've forgotten anything-- I hope to only make one trip!
8/10 gal tank
Flojet pump
wire from helm to pump
Thru-hull fitting
hose from T/H to tank
hose from tank to pump
hose from pump to nozzle
Nozzle & housing(going to install it nearby... starboard side, next to my seat)
SS Screws - size suggestions?
5200
*What have I forgotten?*
If anyone needs me to look for something at MCL, shoot me a PM!
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Can you cut the tank apart so you can get it out? If you can, then replace it with a larger bladder tank and use the old pump and plumbing.
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OK fellas, I've decided to finally do this project. :D Will be on the East Coast next week, and will be making a detour to Marine Connection Liquidators in Ft. Pierce to pick up the supplies. Please tell me if I've forgotten anything-- I hope to only make one trip!
8/10 gal tank
Flojet pump
wire from helm to pump
Thru-hull fitting
hose from T/H to tank
hose from tank to pump
hose from pump to nozzle
Nozzle & housing(going to install it nearby... starboard side, next to my seat)
SS Screws - size suggestions?
5200
*What have I forgotten?*
If anyone needs me to look for something at MCL, shoot me a PM!
Need to add to my shopping list:
Hose from vent to port
L/T- fittings
Hose clamps
ANYTHING ELSE?
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A pie plate to acsess the back of the fill,make sure you get a fill outlet that says "water only "on it,hold down kit for the tank,mine is a nylon strap,like a battery hold down :salut:
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Ok, the 3-hour visit to MCL is complete! (no really, I was there from about 8:30 till 11:30). :| I looked at some other stuff of course, but that place would sure benefit from some better merchandising and organization... I would've spent more!
They had no 8 gal tanks, so I bought an 11 gal and I'm praying it fits thru the hatch. Total cost wasn't horrible, paid $280 for:
11 gal tank
Jabsco pump- 40psi 3.5 gpm, 9.0 amp. Think I got a good deal here for $99, as it retails at Worst Marine for $150
Fill port
hose from port to tank + vent hose
hose from tank to pump
hose from pump to nozzle
Fittings and elbows
Nozzle & housing
Hose clamps
SS Screws
Nylon retaining strap
Labels for my switches
Will hopefully tackle this on Saturday! (Along with installing my new sweet new gauge panel-- MUCHOS GRACIAS, flounderpounder! :D )
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:thumright:
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It fits!
:cheers:
Checked it this morning, and the 11 gal. tank fit into the hatch, once I removed the entire hatch frame. Pete, if you still are thinking of upgrading your tank, they sell these tanks for $4/gal at MCL. This one was $44.
But since you're already set up, it might be easier for you to just add a 2nd tank (the 6-gal tank is only $24), and add some T's, to give you the extra capacity.
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Thats great news Mike!It won't be long before you are enjoying nice fresh water showers after diving!Bring along some body wash! :cheers: :salut: :thumright:
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Mike, good deal!
Glad it worked out!
I'd like to thank you for taking and sending the pics you took at MCL...Looks like you found exactly what we needed :thumleft:
:cheers: :cheers:
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Mike, good deal!
Glad it worked out!
I'd like to thank you for taking and sending the pics you took at MCL...Looks like you found exactly what we needed :thumleft:
:cheers: :cheers:
You know, if you're restoring an Aqua, MCL also has the big AQUASPORT decals, about 4' long, for the sides. Doubt it would have been standard on your model year but still pretty cool.
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SUCCESS!
Got everything hooked up today, and it works well. I opted to place the nozzle up front, where we usually gear up/down. Got a little creative-- I cut a pie plate, then cut out the cover and placed the shower inside the pie cover! Got some decent water pressure too.
(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z320/MikeVAg33/shower.jpg)
My only issue is that the tank is slow to fill, because the hose has flattened somewhat below the deck. It's a 1.5" flexible PVC hose, with the braided things interwoven to keep it open, but maybe I need a different type of hose?
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Mike,
Is it backing up on you through the fill hose? I other words, if you stick a hose in the fill and turn it on (normal city water pressure), does it shoot back at you? You may have a vent issue...
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Mike,
Is it backing up on you through the fill hose? I other words, if you stick a hose in the fill and turn it on (normal city water pressure), does it shoot back at you? You may have a vent issue...
Yes, it will shoot back if I turn the hose on full blast. But the vent hose is fine. I can actually feel the kink (not really a kink, but a flattened part) of the large 1.5" hose. So I might need to use a different type of hose....
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Mike,
I attach about a 3 foot length of garden hose with the end cut off and slide it down the pipe and just let it fill.If you have it filling close to the opening some of the water will get into the vent and cause it to back up.Nice install,by the way,hope you enjoy it this summer.Bring along a bottle of body wash to shower up with. :cheers:
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Thanks Pete I will try that.
Hoping to get out Friday and do some diving on the submerged towers off Sanibel... Will get a chance to use the shower! Although I'm starting to think I shoulda got 2 water tanks... With a 3.5 gpm pump, my 11 gallons will be gone in 3 mins! Shower quick, lads!
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So then with the water tank there in the hatian hatch you cant use the storage any more?
Is there another place to mount the water tank?
Bryan
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you can put the tank where ever you want.may be in the console,that would be easy to hook up.the hatian hatch is where they put it at the factory :cheers:
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you can put the tank where ever you want.may be in the console,that would be easy to hook up.the hatian hatch is where they put it at the factory :cheers:
That's true. But the Haitian hatch on a 245 is pretty big, plus you have that center storage on the casting deck that is a lot bigger than Pete's 225...
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yep, lots of places on those boats to put a fresh water tank :cheers:
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here a solulion to mounting a fresh water system,this is a self contained fresh water shower you just plug into 12v,
http://bigkahunashowers.com/ (http://bigkahunashowers.com/) :salut:
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Pete thanks for the link,thats a cool little shower,may have to get one,can think of a bunch of times it would have come in handy.
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I almost like that idea better.
Just a place to stow till needed.
I do like the idea of a built in system.
I am thinking about a bladder system
could fit in a lot of areas on my 24.5
Thanks Bryan
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BTW the transom shower on the AS is the Scandvik?
Thanks Bryan
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you can put the tank where ever you want.may be in the console,that would be easy to hook up.the hatian hatch is where they put it at the factory :cheers:
That's true. But the Haitian hatch on a 245 is pretty big, plus you have that center storage on the casting deck that is a lot bigger than Pete's 225...
I was thinking bout that. I like my hatian hatch area and keep my Life raft there when it is on the boat. Was thinking about having a bladder made or finding one the size I need maybe 10, 12 gal?
Also, was thinking it woulkd make a great back up if fresh water is needed for something?
Thanks as always
Bryan
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Just wanted to give a heads up.
The Scandvik fresh water shower handle has been changed.
It now comes with a really cheap plastic shower handle.
(same part number as the good one).
Part is #11032
I received mine today.
However marine connection has the good one
(bought it today).
So just look out
Bryan
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bought the same one from MCL as a replacement for mine :thumright:
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What are the measurements of the 11 gal tank?
I would like to call MCL and order one
Thanks Bryan
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I'd email them and ask :salut: