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Title: Favorite two stroke oil
Post by: wingtime on August 03, 2010, 12:17:02 AM
I was wondering what everyone's favorite two stroke oil is.     Has anyone tried the West Marine TCW3?  or the Star Brite Premium?
Title: Re: Favorite two stroke oil
Post by: John Jones on August 03, 2010, 07:33:08 AM
I have been using Pennzoil Premium Plus for years with no issues.
Title: Re: Favorite two stroke oil
Post by: gran398 on August 03, 2010, 11:19:49 AM
As long as its TCWIII, I like CHEAP...

My favorite is Ying Sang Lee III.
Title: Re: Favorite two stroke oil
Post by: bumpster on August 03, 2010, 11:45:33 AM
Quote from: "gran398"
As long as its TCWIII, I like CHEAP...

My favorite is Ying Sang Lee III.
Remember, THE CHINESE ARE OUR FRIENDS!!!!!
Title: Re: Favorite two stroke oil
Post by: GoneFission on August 03, 2010, 06:17:53 PM
Quote from: "gran398"
As long as its TCWIII, I like CHEAP...

My favorite is Ying Sang Lee III.

That's the one with the special melamine additive right?   :scratch:  

I've been using Pennzoil XLF (X-tra Life Formula) in the old Black Max - it's made for older 2-stroke engines that can double as skeeter killers.  To help older engines work better, I think it has a little Geritol, some Poligrip, and maybe some Viagra in it.   :thumleft:
Title: Re: Favorite two stroke oil
Post by: RickK on August 04, 2010, 05:33:28 AM
What I do is go to SAMs and buy a case of TCW3 qts and then refill my gallon bottles.  3 gals for $30ish compared to $30 for one at a marine store.
Now my secret is out and oil prices will go up....

 :wink:
Title: Re: Favorite two stroke oil
Post by: gran398 on August 04, 2010, 01:49:03 PM
Quote from: "bumpster"
Quote from: "gran398"
As long as its TCWIII, I like CHEAP...

My favorite is Ying Sang Lee III.
Remember, THE CHINESE ARE OUR FRIENDS!!!!!


Hugh dam rite they're our friends....they own our debt, they own our jobs, and they own our consumers...they own us.
Title: Re: Favorite two stroke oil
Post by: gran398 on August 04, 2010, 01:56:06 PM
Quote from: "GoneFission"
Quote from: "gran398"
As long as its TCWIII, I like CHEAP...

My favorite is Ying Sang Lee III.

That's the one with the special melamine additive right?   :scratch:  

I've been using Pennzoil XLF (X-tra Life Formula) in the old Black Max - it's made for older 2-stroke engines that can double as skeeter killers.  To help older engines work better, I think it has a little Geritol, some Poligrip, and maybe some Viagra in it.   :thumleft:

Yep John, that Ying Sang is the best I've found. But that Penz XLF is right there, fabrique' en Chine too. Its like dog food for maturer dogs. Graybeards, if you will. And yep, it does have those special additives you mentioned. For daily use. Makes her stand right up. If the moment is right, SHE will be ready.

There's a switch.
Title: Re: Favorite two stroke oil
Post by: gran398 on August 04, 2010, 01:58:21 PM
Quote from: "RickK"
What I do is go to SAMs and buy a case of TCW3 qts and then refill my gallon bottles.  3 gals for $30ish compared to $30 for one at a marine store.
Now my secret is out and oil prices will go up....

 :wink:

So how much do you usually pay for a case there?

Tx!

S
Title: Re: Favorite two stroke oil
Post by: John Jones on August 04, 2010, 02:15:00 PM
All I see listed at my nearest Sam's Club is Havoline TC-W3
$40.52/12 qt. case

$13.50/gal by my old brain.
Title: Re: Favorite two stroke oil
Post by: wingtime on August 04, 2010, 04:28:58 PM
I just bought some of West Marines Premium TC-W3 2-cycle oil.  It's on sale right now for $14.99 a gallon.  I found out this is made by Star Brite and is the same product as their premium synthetic blend TC-W3 oil.  I have read good reviews of it on other forums.
Title: Re: Favorite two stroke oil
Post by: Aswaff400 on August 05, 2010, 11:30:05 AM
i usually get my oil from advance auto parts,
PENNZOIL Premium Plus 2-Cycle TC-W3

roughly $15/gal
Title: Re: Favorite two stroke oil
Post by: jcaesar625 on August 05, 2010, 05:50:27 PM
Quote from: "wingtime"
I just bought some of West Marines Premium TC-W3 2-cycle oil.  It's on sale right now for $14.99 a gallon.  I found out this is made by Star Brite and is the same product as their premium synthetic blend TC-W3 oil.  I have read good reviews of it on other forums.

+1, It regularly goes on sale from 22.95 to 14.99, so I also make sure I pick up a few gallons when it does.
Title: Re: Favorite two stroke oil
Post by: gran398 on August 05, 2010, 10:59:03 PM
All kidding aside, have used the West lube, ran well. And nice to know that it is formulated by Starbrite; they produce a quality product.
Title: Re: Favorite two stroke oil
Post by: LilRichard on August 06, 2010, 12:23:23 PM
I'll second the Penzoil, I used the synthetic back when I was building jetski motors, and I dis-assembled several motors that exhibited little scuffing and nearly no wear on the cylinder walls.  Also very good on carbon depositis.  Good stuff.
Title: Re: Favorite two stroke oil
Post by: RickK on August 06, 2010, 07:13:08 PM
Quote from: "John Jones"
All I see listed at my nearest Sam's Club is Havoline TC-W3
$40.52/12 qt. case

$13.50/gal by my old brain.
It was in the low 30s when I bought my last case. So around 10-11/gal - looks like it's gone up, again.
I checked it at West Marine at the time and it was $29/gal at that time.
Sounds like the sale at West for 14 is ok - what am I, nuts!!! They have us thinking that is ok now....
Title: Re: Favorite two stroke oil
Post by: jcaesar625 on August 13, 2010, 08:49:47 AM
Quote from: "jcaesar625"
Quote from: "wingtime"
I just bought some of West Marines Premium TC-W3 2-cycle oil.  It's on sale right now for $14.99 a gallon.  I found out this is made by Star Brite and is the same product as their premium synthetic blend TC-W3 oil.  I have read good reviews of it on other forums.

+1, It regularly goes on sale from 22.95 to 14.99, so I also make sure I pick up a few gallons when it does.

On sale for $12.95 this week. Time to stock up!
Title: Re: Favorite two stroke oil
Post by: Robob on August 13, 2010, 09:43:58 AM
Good to hear the positive results with the Pennzoil Plus.

I have been buying it at Advance Auto Parts for a LOT less than West charges for theirs and it seems to be working okay but it's nice to hear about somebody disassembling engines with no oil caused problems:-)

Thanks for a great informational site.

Bob on Tampa Bay
Title: Re: Favorite two stroke oil
Post by: Aswaff400 on August 13, 2010, 11:24:55 AM
Quote from: "Robob"
Good to hear the positive results with the Pennzoil Plus.

I have been buying it at Advance Auto Parts for a LOT less than West charges for theirs and it seems to be working okay but it's nice to hear about somebody disassembling engines with no oil caused problems:-)

Thanks for a great informational site.

Bob on Tampa Bay

i usually get it at the one on 62nd ave and 4th st. close to my house, might run down there today and pick up a gal. need to change the oil in my truck lol
Title: Re: Favorite two stroke oil
Post by: Mike453 on October 01, 2010, 05:47:46 PM
Hi  Can someone tell me why I was told to only run Evenrude XD=50 in my 115 Johnson? And I must mention it's $29-$33.00 a gal. Is it only because it has a VRO/OMS system, or am  I just stupid?   :roll:
Title: Re: Favorite two stroke oil
Post by: Capt. Bob on October 01, 2010, 06:17:30 PM
What year is the engine?
Title: Re: Favorite two stroke oil
Post by: Mike453 on October 01, 2010, 09:21:54 PM
I have a 2000, it's a j115vxsss?
Title: Re: Favorite two stroke oil
Post by: GoneFission on October 01, 2010, 10:33:46 PM
The mfr always wants to sell their oil...
Title: Re: Favorite two stroke oil
Post by: flounderpounder225 on October 01, 2010, 11:51:22 PM
Well, I'm getting yamalube for $17 a gallon, bulk right down the street, so I'm hangin with the OEM, This discussion always emerges on all the forums, I say run what makes you comfortable, I agree there is a lot of mystery to all the OEM loyalty, who really blends it for them, and what are the REAL comparsions ingredient by ingredient?? But at $17 a gallon, I'm comfortable, and the general consensus is these big block HPDI's are pretty finicky, the previous owner put 729 hours on it, all on Yamalube, so for now, I'm staying with it.

Marc
Title: Re: Favorite two stroke oil
Post by: RickK on October 02, 2010, 05:21:32 AM
Sam's selling TCW3 oil at $10.68/gal right now.
Title: Re: Favorite two stroke oil
Post by: Capt. Bob on October 02, 2010, 07:49:05 AM
Quote from: "Mike453"
I have a 2000, it's a j115vxsss?

I thought the 115hp motors that year were all carb fed and not fuelies and a check of the BRP site for your year motor shows carbs so...

If it's carbed, then you're wasting your money. That oil is made for the E-Tecs and while it may help your old motor with carbon build up, it's cheaper just to de-carb with the standard de-carb stuff once a year if you must. You're just burning it up (the oil) so why not burn something cheaper. I don't think they even made the XD series oil in 2000 so use what was factory recommended (TC-W3 spec).

If you must use the factory oil, buy the XD- 30.  It's a little cheaper.  :roll:
Title: Re: Favorite two stroke oil
Post by: Mike453 on October 04, 2010, 06:52:29 PM
Thanks Capt. Bob I knew it had carbs, The previous owner told me he always ran xd50. I'll see what they  suggest (factory) and check it out Thanks. :salut:
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