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Aquasport Mechanicals - things that need a wrench, screwdriver or multimeter => Trailers => Topic started by: Aswaff400 on July 17, 2010, 02:10:33 PM

Title: new bunks on the trailer...
Post by: Aswaff400 on July 17, 2010, 02:10:33 PM
took the opportunity while the boat was in the water this past week to get some much needed work done on the trailer. replaced the bunks and brackets so the boat no longer sits on the fenders :shock: and the last 1-1/2 ft of the hull is now supported... funny the angle of my cross-members match the deadrise of the hull 8)  

before:
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a148/recklesabandon727/aquasport/P3100179.jpg)

after:
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a148/recklesabandon727/aquasport/P7160725.jpg)
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a148/recklesabandon727/aquasport/P7160726.jpg)

next gotta replace the axle springs and bearings, might tackle those in 2 more weeks...

(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a148/recklesabandon727/aquasport/P7130651.jpg)
Title: Re: new bunks on the trailer...
Post by: GoneFission on July 17, 2010, 05:47:45 PM
Nice work!   :thumright:
Title: Re: new bunks on the trailer...
Post by: seabob4 on July 17, 2010, 08:28:43 PM
She's pretty!  See The Pier there, downtown SP....
Title: Re: new bunks on the trailer...
Post by: Curious on December 12, 2010, 03:24:14 PM
How did you get the angle of the bunks the same as the angle on the hull? Oh never mind, I just re-read the first post.  My dilemma is that the cross members are a shallower angle than my deadrise and I'm trying to figure out how to get the angle right on the bunk so the hull isn't sitting on the edge of the bunk.  It's currently a roller trailer but my plan is to modify it into a bunk trailer to simplify things......
Title: Re: new bunks on the trailer...
Post by: John Jones on December 12, 2010, 06:32:25 PM
swivel top bunk brackets are available.

page 7
http://www.sturdybuiltonline.com/assets ... og1-20.pdf (http://www.sturdybuiltonline.com/assets/images/Catalog/catalog1-20.pdf)
Title: Re: new bunks on the trailer...
Post by: RickK on December 12, 2010, 07:06:35 PM
Looks good  :!:  :!:
Title: Re: new bunks on the trailer...
Post by: MarshMarlowe196 on December 13, 2010, 09:23:18 AM
That's mo' betta  :thumright:  Maybe it's just the picture, but it looks like the bunks are overhanging a little too much at the stern.  Could pose a problem if you're trying to get the boat on the trailer in high wind or a bad current.  Might impact the bunk with the lower unit - Might not.  Just  a thought, and it should be an easy fix.
Title: Re: new bunks on the trailer...
Post by: Capt. Bob on December 13, 2010, 11:53:07 AM
Of course it doesn't pertain to you now but.....

I trimmed mine for clearance/possible damage to the trim tabs when loading /unloading.
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff108/r-berlin/IMG00010.jpg)

 :idea:
Depending on your stature and mental state at the ramp or at home, think possible knee/shin encounter followed by #@&**fu*%.

I'm just thinkin' out loud. :o
Title: Re: new bunks on the trailer...
Post by: Curious on December 13, 2010, 01:27:21 PM
Quote from: "John Jones"
swivel top bunk brackets are available.

page 7
http://www.sturdybuiltonline.com/assets ... og1-20.pdf (http://www.sturdybuiltonline.com/assets/images/Catalog/catalog1-20.pdf)

Yeah, I thought about those but I don't like the idea of most of the weight bearing being on just those two load points at the brackets.  There really isn't any weight bearing in the middle of the 2x4 or 2x6 is there?  They make galv or alum bunk stiffeners that I suppose could go on each swivel bracket to provide some more support.  I like the idea of the thicker bunks in the pics above, but maybe I'm overthinking it???  Would 2 2x6 bunks on swivel brackets and a couple of keel rollers do the trick?  Its a 1975 22 Family Fisherman.
Title: Re: new bunks on the trailer...
Post by: Aswaff400 on December 13, 2010, 02:48:58 PM
i left about 12 inches hanging off so i could move the bow stop back about 6-8 inches, also doubles as a step to get in the boat :tongue:

Quote from: "Curious"
Quote from: "John Jones"
swivel top bunk brackets are available.

page 7
http://www.sturdybuiltonline.com/assets ... og1-20.pdf (http://www.sturdybuiltonline.com/assets/images/Catalog/catalog1-20.pdf)

Yeah, I thought about those but I don't like the idea of most of the weight bearing being on just those two load points at the brackets.  There really isn't any weight bearing in the middle of the 2x4 or 2x6 is there?  They make galv or alum bunk stiffeners that I suppose could go on each swivel bracket to provide some more support.  I like the idea of the thicker bunks in the pics above, but maybe I'm overthinking it???  Would 2 2x6 bunks on swivel brackets and a couple of keel rollers do the trick?  Its a 1975 22 Family Fisherman.

i prefer solid bunk to support most of the weight and i used those brackets to support the bow...

heres a similar and common setup:
(http://www.tntboattrailers.com/images/gallery/RearView.jpg)
Title: Re: new bunks on the trailer...
Post by: John Jones on December 13, 2010, 03:19:27 PM
Quote from: "Curious"
Quote from: "John Jones"
swivel top bunk brackets are available.

page 7
http://www.sturdybuiltonline.com/assets ... og1-20.pdf (http://www.sturdybuiltonline.com/assets/images/Catalog/catalog1-20.pdf)

Yeah, I thought about those but I don't like the idea of most of the weight bearing being on just those two load points at the brackets.  There really isn't any weight bearing in the middle of the 2x4 or 2x6 is there?  They make galv or alum bunk stiffeners that I suppose could go on each swivel bracket to provide some more support.  I like the idea of the thicker bunks in the pics above, but maybe I'm overthinking it???  Would 2 2x6 bunks on swivel brackets and a couple of keel rollers do the trick?  Its a 1975 22 Family Fisherman.

Not much weight bearing in the middle on 2"(in reality 1.5") boards for sure, no matter the type of brackets used.  When I had the 22' I used 4x6 and on my 15' I have 4x4.  Thicker bunks help spread the load.  I really like the idea of the metal bunks with just the thin boards on top.  

KEEL ROLLERS SHOULD NOT BE WEIGHT BEARING!  They are there to keep you from hitting the cross members when launching or loading. One slightly out of adjustment keel roller will punch a hole in the bottom of your boat when you hit that pot hole you did not see.
Title: Re: new bunks on the trailer...
Post by: John Jones on December 13, 2010, 03:21:35 PM
Quote from: "Aswaff400"
i prefer solid bunk to support most of the weight and i used those brackets to support the bow...

heres a similar and common setup:
(http://www.tntboattrailers.com/images/gallery/RearView.jpg)


This.
Even the front bunks are really not for load support.  They are just guides. They make a helluva difference when loading the boat on the trailer.
Title: Re: new bunks on the trailer...
Post by: Curious on December 13, 2010, 08:42:15 PM
I like it.  I was thinking of just mounting a couple of pressure treated 4x8's with glide slicks on top and nixing the whole carpet thing altogether.  It doesn't have to look pretty. I just don't know how to get the angle right on the 4x8's so the boat isn't sitting on a sharp edge.
Title: Re: new bunks on the trailer...
Post by: Aswaff400 on December 13, 2010, 09:27:47 PM
Quote from: "Curious"
I like it.  I was thinking of just mounting a couple of pressure treated 4x8's with glide slicks on top and nixing the whole carpet thing altogether.  It doesn't have to look pretty. I just don't know how to get the angle right on the 4x8's so the boat isn't sitting on a sharp edge.

what angle are your cross-members? if they are flat, whatever the dead-rise is, use a protractor and a table saw and cut the angle out of the board, if they are angled, use a protractor to find the angle of your cross-members and add/subtract from the dead-rise, ie:

flat x-member, 12 degree. dead-rise
cut 12 degrees out of the board.

7 deg x-member, 12 degree dead-rise
cut 5 degrees out of the board
Title: Re: new bunks on the trailer...
Post by: MarshMarlowe196 on December 14, 2010, 08:52:29 AM
Quote from: "Aswaff400"
Quote from: "Curious"
I like it.  I was thinking of just mounting a couple of pressure treated 4x8's with glide slicks on top and nixing the whole carpet thing altogether.  It doesn't have to look pretty. I just don't know how to get the angle right on the 4x8's so the boat isn't sitting on a sharp edge.

what angle are your cross-members? if they are flat, whatever the dead-rise is, use a protractor and a table saw and cut the angle out of the board, if they are angled, use a protractor to find the angle of your cross-members and add/subtract from the dead-rise, ie:

flat x-member, 12 degree. dead-rise
cut 12 degrees out of the board.

7 deg x-member, 12 degree dead-rise
cut 5 degrees out of the board

That'll work.  Even if it's not perfect, the wood will eventually mold itself to the angle of the deadrise after it gets wet a few times - get as close as possible.  Whenever I was fabricating my bunks, I made sure to round off any sharp edges.
Title: Re: new bunks on the trailer...
Post by: Curious on December 14, 2010, 08:47:37 PM
Sounds good.  Thanks guys, I'll let you know how it works out.  Definately easier than replacing all the washers, rollers and hog rings.  Besides I think AS recommends bunks anyways don't they?
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