Classic AquaSport

Aquasport Mechanicals - things that need a wrench, screwdriver or multimeter => Engines & engine woes => Topic started by: Aswaff400 on April 26, 2010, 01:07:07 AM

Title: repowering the AS!
Post by: Aswaff400 on April 26, 2010, 01:07:07 AM
ive been fighting my 112 J'Rude, steering tube, steering arm, fuel and carb issues over the past 6 months...

one of my customers in the marina is replacing his '90 evinrude 200 with a new merc 225 optimax and he's selling me the 'rude. ive known the guy for many years, and he's the original owner, keeps it looking and running like new. 200 will be a great improvement over the 112! :shock:
Title: Re: repowering the AS!
Post by: RickK on April 26, 2010, 05:59:44 AM
8)
Before or after the gathering?
Title: Re: repowering the AS!
Post by: Aswaff400 on April 26, 2010, 10:51:12 AM
hopefully before... if thats the case ill just drive the boat down as my springs on the trailer are shot
Title: Re: repowering the AS!
Post by: seabob4 on April 26, 2010, 02:16:18 PM
Now I wanna see the numbers with that 200!  She'll be a rocket!!!
Title: Re: repowering the AS!
Post by: Aswaff400 on April 26, 2010, 04:41:28 PM
he said it pushed his 21 ft walk around 51 mph. weight about 4000 my guess is upper 50's :twisted:

he said he cant wait to see how much faster the boat will be with the new 225 optimax
Title: Re: repowering the AS!
Post by: Aswaff400 on April 26, 2010, 04:53:58 PM
it also comes with hydraulic steering cylinder
Title: Re: repowering the AS!
Post by: Aswaff400 on May 02, 2010, 01:24:25 AM
wont be doin the swap till the 21st ish...
Title: Re: repowering the AS!
Post by: Aswaff400 on June 18, 2010, 02:26:59 AM
finally getting around to swapping the motors, pulled my old 112 off on monday, pulling the 200 off my customer's boat and hanging it on mine in the morning, cant wait :bounce:

brought the boat to my work so i wont have to in the morning, right as i pulled through the back gate, port side hub blew out and the tire came off the axle  :roll:
Title: Re: repowering the AS!
Post by: wingtime on June 18, 2010, 06:38:31 PM
I can't wait to hear how this repower goes.  I'm going to pick up my "new" to me Merc 200 for my 200XF.   Thank god you made it to work before that hub came off!   Service those bearings man!
Title: Re: repowering the AS!
Post by: Aswaff400 on June 19, 2010, 01:19:00 AM
swap went along pretty smooth, just gotta hook up the wiring harness, and run hydraulic hoses. and get a way steeper pitch prop

i got a new axle, hubs, leaf springs, hangers, and bunk brackets waiting to go on, just been too busy lately to get it done
Title: Re: repowering the AS!
Post by: Aswaff400 on June 20, 2010, 11:10:46 AM
its on! man that outboard makes the boat look small!
(http://www.fordtruckclub.net/forum/photopost/files/2/2/4/p6180585.jpg)
Title: Re: repowering the AS!
Post by: wingtime on June 20, 2010, 12:08:51 PM
That thing looks mean!  Can't wait until I get mine hung!  question on the shift cable linkage.  Is it a push or pull to shift it in to fwd gear?
Title: Re: repowering the AS!
Post by: seabob4 on June 20, 2010, 12:42:38 PM
Quote from: "Aswaff400"
its on! man that outboard makes the boat look small!
(http://www.fordtruckclub.net/forum/photopost/files/2/2/4/p6180585.jpg)

Ah, that's a dinky little motor! :lol:

The 200 will love it, and BTW, she looks good! :salut:
Title: Re: repowering the AS!
Post by: Aswaff400 on June 20, 2010, 12:52:30 PM
Quote from: "seabob4"

Ah, that's a dinky little motor! :lol:

The 200 will love it, and BTW, she looks good! :salut:

the guy was the original owner, he was anal about that thing. cant even tell its a 20 year old motor, also came with hydraulic helm and cylinder, just need to get some hoses
(http://www.fordtruckclub.net/forum/photopost/files/2/2/4/p6180587.jpg)
Title: Re: repowering the AS!
Post by: Aswaff400 on June 20, 2010, 01:00:56 PM
Quote from: "wingtime"
That thing looks mean!  Can't wait until I get mine hung!  question on the shift cable linkage.  Is it a push or pull to shift it in to fwd gear?


i dont remember exacly, been working too many doubles lol,
i want to say
pull>forward
push>reverse

im gonna work on it tomorrow, start rigging it up ill let you know, or someone else may chime in
Title: Re: repowering the AS!
Post by: seabob4 on June 20, 2010, 02:12:47 PM
I'm pretty sure pull is fwd also.

Aswaff, the motor is super clean, but as importantly, look at the condition of the Teleflex cylinder...you don't see 20 year old ones looking like that too often!  Excellent pick up!

Just keep an eye on that cylinder ram for any scratches or nicks...I'm sure you know this already, but... :D
Title: Re: repowering the AS!
Post by: Aswaff400 on June 20, 2010, 11:48:38 PM
Quote from: "seabob4"
I'm pretty sure pull is fwd also.

Aswaff, the motor is super clean, but as importantly, look at the condition of the Teleflex cylinder...you don't see 20 year old ones looking like that too often!  Excellent pick up!

Just keep an eye on that cylinder ram for any scratches or nicks...I'm sure you know this already, but... :D

no scratches on it, said one of the seals has a very very slight leak that developed over the past 2 months, gave me a seal kit for it... like i said, this guy was very anal about the boat/motor.
Title: Re: repowering the AS!
Post by: seabob4 on June 21, 2010, 10:41:35 AM
Quote from: "Aswaff400"
Quote from: "seabob4"
I'm pretty sure pull is fwd also.

Aswaff, the motor is super clean, but as importantly, look at the condition of the Teleflex cylinder...you don't see 20 year old ones looking like that too often!  Excellent pick up!

Just keep an eye on that cylinder ram for any scratches or nicks...I'm sure you know this already, but... :D

no scratches on it, said one of the seals has a very very slight leak that developed over the past 2 months, gave me a seal kit for it... like i said, this guy was very anal about the boat/motor.

Damn, can't beat that with a stick!  You got the spanner wrench for the end caps laying around in the shop somewhere?
Title: Re: repowering the AS!
Post by: Aswaff400 on June 21, 2010, 12:16:43 PM
no buy my neighbor has one, ill borrow it from him when i get the hoses in...

i just backed the boat about half way into my garage (at my house) to do the wiring/shift/throttle cables, motor is almost too tall to fit in the garage door  :shock:  had to tilt it down all the way and still had only an 1/2 inch of clearance.  :lol:
Title: Re: repowering the AS!
Post by: Aswaff400 on June 28, 2010, 09:15:49 PM
got the motor wired up, shift/throttle cables hooked up and adjusted, got the hydraulic lines routed hooked up but didnt have time to purge the lines before i had to go pick up my new truck... should done for 4th of july... just need to get a prop...
Title: Re: repowering the AS!
Post by: wingtime on June 29, 2010, 12:18:46 PM
Your not planning on taking it out for a shake down run on the 4th weekend  are you?  I call the holidays amateur weekends.  That's where all the idiots with more dollars than sense head out on the water.  The can't get the boat backed down the ramp... they have no idea of the rules of the water..  The marine patrol, police, CG and everyone else is out too.  No thanks I'll stay home!    :P
Title: Re: repowering the AS!
Post by: Aswaff400 on June 29, 2010, 03:43:55 PM
Quote from: "wingtime"
Your not planning on taking it out for a shake down run on the 4th weekend  are you?  I call the holidays amateur weekends.  That's where all the idiots with more dollars than sense head out on the water.  The can't get the boat backed down the ramp... they have no idea of the rules of the water..  The marine patrol, police, CG and everyone else is out too.  No thanks I'll stay home!    :P

haha hell no i wont be on the water during the weekend, i have to work but i still deal with every one of them at my work... (i work in a high & dry marina). let me just say every new customer we signed up this past 2 weeks, have never owned a boat, and never operated a boat, in their life :shock: ... every time i operate customers 35+ foot triple o/b boats, i blow their mind away at how i maneuver the boats in such tight spaces and make it look easy 8)  :roll:

just because you can buy it doesn't mean you should drive it
Title: Re: repowering the AS!
Post by: Aswaff400 on June 30, 2010, 02:01:04 PM
well i got the lines purged, found out which seal was leaking, the seal around the keyed shaft for the steering wheel...

ordered a prop this morning...
Title: Re: repowering the AS!
Post by: wingtime on June 30, 2010, 03:40:24 PM
Quote from: "Aswaff400"
haha hell no i wont be on the water during the weekend, i have to work but i still deal with every one of them at my work... (i work in a high & dry marina). let me just say every new customer we signed up this past 2 weeks, have never owned a boat, and never operated a boat, in their life :shock: ... every time i operate customers 35+ foot triple o/b boats, i blow their mind away at how i maneuver the boats in such tight spaces and make it look easy 8)  :roll:


That is downright scary.... even more reasons to stay off the water on holidays...  Guys with 750+ HP boats with no idea of how to operate them!  :shock:   I really think there should be some sort of a required boating class and/or operators license for boats greater than say 16' and with more than say 90 hp or something.
Title: Re: repowering the AS!
Post by: seabob4 on June 30, 2010, 04:00:22 PM
As I like to say, too much money, not enough brains...
Title: Re: repowering the AS!
Post by: Aswaff400 on July 01, 2010, 09:39:48 AM
i have been asked "wheres the brakes" on more than one occasion...
Title: Re: repowering the AS!
Post by: gran398 on July 01, 2010, 11:31:46 AM
Boat operator laws in NC:

http://www.boat-ed.com/nc/course/p4-3_whomayoperate.htm (http://www.boat-ed.com/nc/course/p4-3_whomayoperate.htm)

You guys have anything similar?
Title: Re: repowering the AS!
Post by: Aswaff400 on July 03, 2010, 02:29:01 PM
just got my prop in, 13.5x23 4 blade... cant wait to get it in the water on monday :bounce:
Title: Re: repowering the AS!
Post by: seabob4 on July 03, 2010, 02:39:52 PM
Quote from: "gran398"
Boat operator laws in NC:

http://www.boat-ed.com/nc/course/p4-3_whomayoperate.htm (http://www.boat-ed.com/nc/course/p4-3_whomayoperate.htm)

You guys have anything similar?

Doesn't appear to govern 900HP 38's...
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Anyone born on or after January 1, 1988, who operates a vessel powered by 10 horsepower or more must pass an approved boater safety course and have in his/her possession photographic identification and a boater safety identification card issued by the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission. A person is exempt from this requirement if there is a person on board who is not affected by this law or is at least 18 years of age and holds a boater education I.D. card. This person must be attendant to and take responsibility for the safe operation of the vessel and for any violation that occurs during the operation.

You must be at least 14 years of age to operate a PWC.

Anyone who is convicted of a criminal boating violation, any boating infraction resulting in a reportable boating accident, or two non-criminal boating safety violations within a 12-month period must attend and successfully complete an approved boating safety course and file proof with the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission. The violator’s privilege to operate a vessel in the state will be suspended until proof of course completion is filed.
Title: Re: repowering the AS!
Post by: Aswaff400 on July 03, 2010, 02:43:29 PM
i took a boating safety course when i was 12 or 13... had a 12 ft jon-boat with a 20hp evinrude then sold that when i was 16 for a 17ft flats boat with a 90 yamaha...
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