Classic AquaSport
General Aquasport Forums => Aquasport Discussion => Topic started by: kris Craft on January 20, 2010, 05:23:58 PM
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I have decided that I want to redo the top side paint on my 1975 Proline 20' flatback. The problem is it is currently splatter painted. I can either sand it or try to strip it. Any suggestions or tips would be greately appreciated.
If I decided to sand can I use a belt sander for the large areas or will this create problems?
I am hoping not to have to do much or any faring.
Electric or pneumatic Orbital Sander?
Many thanks in advance.
Kevin
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Hey kris craft!
Two things,
First, this is an Aquasport site.
Second, (as capt. bob) would say, this post is USELESS WITHOUT PICS
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I have decided that I want to redo the top side paint on my 1975 Proline 20' flatback. The problem is it is currently splatter painted. I can either sand it or try to strip it. Any suggestions or tips would be greately appreciated.
Either you meant an Aquasport Flatback, or you need to go here...prolineowners.com (http://www.prolineowners.com/index.php#1).
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Two things,
First, this is an Aquasport site.
Easy now Skoot -
1) His boat is a classic - just not an Aquasport and he's proud of it. We're here for everyone but don't get too many off-brands - obviously because we're a niche family and "they" feel out of place. Eventually he'll not mention the brand and you'll forget.
2) We have members stray away from their Aquasport roots, they buy a similiar type boat (we have other members with Prolines) and are still active contributors here. Some come back, Aquasport in hand, wondering why they ever wavered. Some never have owned an Aquasport but are still great contributors.
3) I think he's tried other forums and feels comfy here because of the type of people we are, ones that don't prejudge......
4) There is not a "Classic Proline" site for him to go to, so he's found a site that has similiar style boats that he can relate to.
5) We're the best - bar none.
Edit: 6) Looks like SB4 might have given him a lead, but he's still welcome here. We even have a proline owner come out to the gatherings :salut:
Second, (as capt. bob) would say, this post is USELESS WITHOUT PICS
Agreed.
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Very well said ,Rick .
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Skoot,
Give me a break.
I am seeking advice from a forum that I not only respect but one which I have followed and participated in for years. Its not like I am a one time poster (look at my post count).
There is no active proline classic site worth a hoot or I would be using it. I have conversed with many a member on this site online and off and find everyone to be very accomodating.
My proline is a classic in every aspect and is my pride despite not having an Aquasport label. I would press anyone to find fault in a mid 70's proline.
Respectfully,
Kevin Schulte
Hey kris craft!
Two things,
First, this is an Aquasport site.
Second, (as capt. bob) would say, this post is USELESS WITHOUT PICS
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Pretty generic questions not brand specific. Just need some ideas before I begin.
Cheers,
Kevin
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Kevin,
Since I do work for Proline, and happen to know the founder of the company pretty well, you might want to give him a call, as Prolineowners.com pretty much deals with newer boats. Dan Atwood is his name, he started the company, along with his father, back in '68. His home phone is (352) 795-3509. I'm sure he'd enjoy talking about your "classic" with you... :thumleft:
Just tell him Bob C said Hi...
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Dang skoot what if I get a Seacraft?
Anyway kris craft I would sand it. Stripping it would be a mess. A belt sander would be fast but you could gouge lines into it pretty easy. If you do use a belt type first I would go back over it with a DA to level before fairing to get as smooth as possible. Hope this helps! Let us know what you come up with!
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Hey Keven, I want to see your grass flats boat :bounce: not to many of those around, good find :salut:
Marc..
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My proline is a classic in every aspect and is my pride despite not having an Aquasport label. I would press anyone to find fault in a mid 70's proline.
Kevin, now let's look at the other side of the coin - the members here are proud of their Aquasports and being a member of a site/family dedicated to the same. 8) Like you, they may have looked long and hard to find just the right place to settle (although we are the ONLY place) and some may feel alienated by someone flaunting a different brand around on "their" site. I think you understand.
Best to leave the brand out of it when asking a question and I'm sure, since you don't have it in your signature either, that they may never know?
Lewis, bringing a Seacraft on here ........ well here we go again. :wink:
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Hey Kevin, The splatter paint is probably not paint but actually gelcoat sprayed with a special tip on the gelcoat gun. There are some very agressive pneumatic tools available that are called "bondo eaters". They are orbital but have a larger sanding action. Dynabrade makes one but it is expensive. National detroit also makes one for less money. Harbor freight might have something similar but not sure. Here's a link for the ND. Good luck and let us know if we can help!
http://nationaldetroit.com/tools/toolde ... ?model=900 (http://nationaldetroit.com/tools/tooldetail.aspx?model=900)
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...Lewis, bringing a Seacraft on here ........ well here we go again.
You in trouble now, boy... :lol:
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I have decided that I want to redo the top side paint on my 1975 Proline 20' flatback. The problem is it is currently splatter painted. I can either sand it or try to strip it. Any suggestions or tips would be greately appreciated.
If I decided to sand can I use a belt sander for the large areas or will this create problems?
I am hoping not to have to do much or any faring.
Electric or pneumatic Orbital Sander?
Many thanks in advance.
Kevin
Kevin, my advice is to sand. Paint strippers can soften resins (had the experience). I used a DeWalt 6" Right Angle RO with a vac attachment. Use somthing like 60 grit (silicon carbide). That will knock it down pretty quick.
Here is the sander I have.
http://www.dewalt.com/us/products/tool_ ... ductID=125 (http://www.dewalt.com/us/products/tool_detail.asp?productID=125)
MD :wink:
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Hey Kevin, The splatter paint is probably not paint but actually gelcoat sprayed with a special tip on the gelcoat gun.
I sprayed gelcoat through a big tip on a regular spray gun and added "stringing" additive (I think it is called that) to put a speckle on the 170.
You might try a flap sander wheel on a grinder - it'll take it off fast.
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Hey Kevin, The splatter paint is probably not paint but actually gelcoat sprayed with a special tip on the gelcoat gun.
I sprayed gelcoat through a big tip on a regular spray gun and added "stringing" additive (I think it is called that) to put a speckle on the 170.
You might try a flap sander wheel on a grinder - it'll take it off fast.
Yes Rick you add "webbing soultion" to the gel when you spray it, thats what weve always called it. But as far as taking it off, take a grinder with some 60 on it and give her hell, then take a d.a. and fair it out, hopefully you wont have to fill anything
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...hopefully you wont have to fill anything...
Hopefully... :shock:
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Agree with MD....go with the light orbital, should you so choose. Will be quicker, and easier to fair later.
The board is correct re the splatter; It is mixed/sprayed on gelcoat, of random depths. Regardless of time spent on prep/final spray, its my opinion that the random height difference will show up again (after flexing). Will look like what it is. And don't forget, gel is tough, and for a reason. If we're mine, I'd keep what you have, for authenticity and resale. And hey, when you're through fishing, just hose and go.
It will never look like a liner boat no matter how much time is spent. My experience is that after guys get tired of pretty, they trade in their liner boats in for exactly what you have, splatter finish, for ease of use. Look at Hydrasport in the early 90's; they saw the trend.
If you want new and fresh, take it to a reputable glass shop, and let them re-splatter. They'll need to fill spiders, /sand/finish, acetone all, and spray. Good job, $12-1500.
I currently own too many boats; I'll happily trade one or two of mine for your 70's Proline. Hammerhead in Tampa is big on classic Proline's. I am too.
Check their site for finished 70's Proline's in the 35 to 50K range (slight speculation here, but have spoken with them, and feel this is accurate for what you'll see)
Best to you and your project...and stick around here!
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Hey kris craft!
Two things,
First, this is an Aquasport site.
Second, (as capt. bob) would say, this post is USELESS WITHOUT PICS
Dam what and A$$ho!e.
Like I already told Kevin, Its no excuse but I quit Tobacco (Dipping) cold turkey on Monday the 18th and it really made me pissed off at the world. I was an a$$ho#e to everyone including my family. (i know, I know) I got drunk for the first 5 days when I came home from work. Those first five days were a complete FOG to me. I Honestly dont recall even posting, actually slvring was the one who told me about my post and asked me whats up with me. So here I am to say;
Sorry if I offend anyone, it was not my intention.
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Dam what and A$$ho!e.
Like I already told Kevin, Its no excuse but I quit Tobacco (Dipping) cold turkey on Monday the 18th and it really made me pissed off at the world. I was an a$$ho#e to everyone including my family. (i know, I know) I got drunk for the first 5 days when I came home from work. Those first five days were a complete FOG to me. I dont recall even posting, actually slvring was the one who told me about my post and asked me whats up with me. So here I am to say;
Sorry if I offend anyone, it was not my intention.
:lol: When I started to read your post I was wondering WTF is there two skoot here :scratch:
:lol: :thumleft:
Marc..
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Glad to see all is right with the world...
A little Proline story that suits this thread perfectly...
We had built a Pro-Lite 20 Flats for a customer who wanted a Sea Foam green hull. The boat came up from lamination to be rigged. I passed our plant manager a few minutes later, and commented to him, that, even though the Sea Foam green splatter coat in the cockpit (the WHOLE cockpit!) looked really good, I thought it would look a little odd with the white console.
His jaw dropped, and he said, "What are you talking about?". I said, "C'mon, let's go look." He looked in the cockpit, which was supposed to be WHITE splatter coat, and, well, you can imagine the look on his face...
2 1/2 days later, with 2 people on it using DAs and 36 grit, she was ready for re-spraying...
:*: happens to everyone... :lol: