Classic AquaSport
Aquasport Model Rebuilds, Mods, Updates and Refreshes => Osprey Style Hull Rebuilds => 240 Rebuilds => Topic started by: xo4001 on December 15, 2009, 09:04:12 PM
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Hi there
I am new and also looking for a little time on this site and found very good information on all kinds of the aquasports
I have a 240 from 71 or 73 not sure and no hull number
sitting around for some time decided to get it going for the summer
The boat was with a low transom fully rotted
Made a new full one and have to make a plan about the bracket
is here some one who can give me advise?
I have some one in place who can do the welding in aluminium for me
The biggest question is what is the thickness of the materials and which quality
Want to put 2 Yamaha's 150 on her
Also can some one give me there experience with floor hatches which one to get and which one not
The problem for me is that I live on an island and can not see all of them actually and have to buy them from the web
Any help or suggestion is taken as a great help
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Welcome aboard xo4001 :!: :!:
Hull numbers weren't required until after '71 or '72, so maybe that is the year of the boat?
What type of 240 do you have? We have a few articles on the 240 from '71 in our gallery http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showgallery.php/cat/545
Do you have access to the majority of marine supplies there? I've heard everything is very costly over there though, being on a island and everything being shipped over.
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Thanks for the welcome RickK
According your info on the site it is a side console and I think it was original with the I/O because all the supports for the inboard are still in place
The transom is the ‘’Funny” one with the center piece recessed will try to post some pictures in the weekend luckily still have a job to go to every week day
When it came to me some years ago the transom was cut out for O/B mounting and it was not done the right way that’s why the wood rotted
After a lot of reading on the AS site decided to go with the full transom also we are going on the big water here and give me a more safety feeling
I can get the basic stuff for boating here most of it have to be ordered and yes all is very expensive all of the stuff is taxed around 45% also on transport
So that’s mean everything is at least twice the price what you pay this is not a complaint now :)
Hope that some one comes with suggestions or info
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The first trial
A picture that was still on my computer how she was,
a lot of work to do
Will take some more soon
(http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy27/xo4001/Aquasport/1.jpg)
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Hi guy's
Anyone has experience with
http://www.dadmarine.com/pictures__info1.htm (http://www.dadmarine.com/pictures__info1.htm)
Brackets?
Are they any good?
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Hi guy's
Anyone has experience with
http://www.dadmarine.com/pictures__info1.htm (http://www.dadmarine.com/pictures__info1.htm)
No.
Brackets?
Yes.
Are they any good?
IMHO they can be, when installed properly. Aquasport used them from the Factory on select models.
I have a "B-Bracket" that I purchased when living in Ft. Lauderdale and installed it in 96 on my stock CCP.
I have no complaints about handling or speed and I love the extra "transom space" that is added to my model. :thumleft:
YMMV.
As an aside. I hope to re-mount this bracket on my 91 WAC. Don't know if or when but I feel the stock transom (wood) will support it just as well as the CCP did.
Good luck
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Thanks for the reply Capt Bob
Was your bracket rectangular or did it follow the bottom of the boat with the V?
From what I see on the web they are mounted a little higher than the actual bottom
Do you know the reason for it?
How much was the set back?
Have a Merry Xmas
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If the transom bracket ran to the bottom you would have one problem I can see you could'nt access your bilge drain also that much support is not needed for the bracket that would be overkill in my opinion
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XO,
Looking down from the top, yes, my bracket (full single motor/swim platform type) is rectangler.
It mounts flush with the top of the transom cutout
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff108/r-berlin/IMG00009.jpg)
It also bolts to the transom through the flotation chamber.
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff108/r-berlin/IMG00010.jpg)
Lastly, you can see the bottom clearance.
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff108/r-berlin/IMG00011.jpg)
Mounting through the chamber adds additional support that would not exist if the bracket was a true cantilever mount.
I would think drag plays a part in the mounting design with the lean toward less being better.
You will need to decide at what height you want to place the bracket since you stated you will be closing in the transom.
I chose the height shown because it matched ascetically, allowed for a higher motor mounting position and has (fortunately) resulted in good performance.
The offset on my bracket is 26".
I would (as I did) speak with the bracket manufacturer for their recommendations and if possible, contact a few builders (if possible) and pick their brain. Baring that, the web may offer different ideas/direction so try there for ideas. I didn't want to stray too far from the Aqua's original design intent and I don't believe I have. The bracket (and trim tabs) while costly, were the best mods I made on my CCP, hence the desire to move the bracket to the WAC in the future.
Good luck.
PS... yes, the boat gets dirty this time of year when living in a forest :(
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If the transom bracket ran to the bottom you would have one problem I can see you could'nt access your bilge drain also that much support is not needed for the bracket that would be overkill in my opinion
flkeysaqua
Also thx for your reply
I have no experience with brackets at all
I was thinking to give as much positive flotation possible if you go all the way down
Because the weight of the engines goes back 24 or 30’’
The bilge drain, was thinking to notch a piece out of the bracket just enough to access it
But I don’t know if this have a positive or negative impact?
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Capt Bob
Thanks for the pictures they were very clear to me
I was able to look at them only once and then they moved or deleted?
The height of the bracket depend on the engine that’s mounted
Locally the people give no info, the word is we get them from the manufacturer
My builder is a welding fabrication shop
I try to get some communication with a manufacturer online but since this is the holiday season not to many people are working will wait until next year when everybody is fresh again
Don’t worry about the dirt that is washed of easily if you don’t leave it to long
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Pics are back.
My bad.
Since you're rebuilding, you may want to give these guys a look see. http://fiberglassenginebrackets.com/
I'm not familiar with glass brackets or how they would handle stress but hey, your boat is fiberglass and being integrated into the transom during rebuilt might be the ticket. I see they have a 305 area code so they're about as close as you are going to get States wise for shipping. They may also be a great source on your rebuild.
Ya never know. :wink:
Good luck and keep us posted.
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This is the progress untill now
(http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy27/xo4001/Aquasport/Picture001.jpg)
(http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy27/xo4001/Aquasport/Picture010.jpg)
This is what I was planning but not to sure any more
(http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy27/xo4001/Aquasport/Picture015.jpg)
(http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy27/xo4001/Aquasport/Picture016.jpg)
Also made contact with Armstrong for the bracket and wait and see what the quote looks like
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:thumleft:
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Well now,
You're underway (so to speak). :salut:
Interesting the way the port side stringer narrows down in the back. :scratch:
Good luck and keep posting progress.
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Well now,
You're underway (so to speak). :salut:
Interesting the way the port side stringer narrows down in the back. :scratch:
Good luck and keep posting progress.
The whole configuration in the back is confusing
It has something to do with the I/ob options I think
Made some slow progress with the prefab of the panels to finish the inside
It didnt came out as I wanted but it is fixable with some bondo
(http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy27/xo4001/boat001-1.jpg)
Even here it was fresh the last couple of days what resulted in very slow set up of the resin
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It took long for a update
Found out while I was planning to re route the drain from the fish box that the outside of the stringers where all cracked loose from the bottom
So found some more work take down the both of the boxes
Some places open more than ½’’
Tried to bring the bottom up to close the gap that was not possible decide to fill it in with resin and sawdust and laminate 4 layers of each (chop and roven) on top
That will do the trick I hope
Next week a “nice” job to glass the boxes back in
(http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy27/xo4001/boat012.jpg)
(http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy27/xo4001/boat011.jpg)
(http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy27/xo4001/boat015.jpg)
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Next week came late
The weather start warming up again the last couple of weeks it was to cold to do any fiberglass work
Just start glassing the boxes back in and also my prefab fits nicely
(http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy27/xo4001/boat018.jpg)
(http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy27/xo4001/boat019.jpg)
some square overdone knees
(http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy27/xo4001/boat025.jpg)
To be continued
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Looking good - warming up means "get 'er done" :wink: :thumleft: :thumleft:
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Just want to share this with you
Decided to make my own deck hatches because the ones I ordered are a very flexible
Talk to my local supplier and he suggested this foam with the cuts
That get filled up with resin and proved to be very strong and light
The work is not much and the result is good
The pictures show the process
(http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy27/xo4001/deck%20hatch/Boathatch002.jpg)
(http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy27/xo4001/deck%20hatch/Boathatch001.jpg)
(http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy27/xo4001/deck%20hatch/Boathatch003.jpg)
(http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy27/xo4001/deck%20hatch/Boathatch004.jpg)
(http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy27/xo4001/deck%20hatch/Boathatch008.jpg)
(http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy27/xo4001/deck%20hatch/Boathatch005-1.jpg)
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That's pretty slick. :thumleft:
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Need some advice,
Found some time to pick up the project and started on the bottom and found this :!:
It start with a little crack that opens up and when I start to clean up it breaks away like in the pictures
(http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy27/xo4001/DSCN0131.jpg)
(http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy27/xo4001/DSCN0124.jpg)
(http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy27/xo4001/DSCN0129.jpg)
This looks or is delamination if I put a wood chisel under it I can think I can peel the whole first layer off and I have a lot of those spots
OK the question is how can I fix this :scratch:and make it :safe: or do I have to forget this project and bring it to the landfill :cry:
Any input is welcome because I'm in a little dip now
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Possibly blisters that cause the skin coat to delam?
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Possibly blisters that cause the skin coat to delam?
Do I have to worry about this?
It is only the first layer
Did some research and it seams to be very common on older boats
How you think will be the best way to attack this just peel all the lose stuff off and re fiberglass it
I can be ending up with the whole bottom :o
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You'll be fine... and certainly not a dump candidate. It's a 240...the cat's meow.
Flip it. Attack it from the top, which was once the bottom. Allow gravity to assist you with the build.
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You'll be fine... and certainly not a dump candidate. It's a 240...the cat's meow.
Flip it. Attack it from the top, which was once the bottom. Allow gravity to assist you with the build.
Scott, while flipping her would facilitate the process, this is a little bit more than a bare empty hull...
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Just reviewed the pics, and you're right. But sure would be better if he could....
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Is this the same hull design as the 22.2 from the 70's just 2 foot bigger?
What I mean is: Are the degrees and lines all the same?
I hope that question came out right. :shock:
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Just reviewed the pics, and you're right. But sure would be better if he could....
Scott,
Flipping is not an option for me
I will see if I can make up 2 tripods and with 2 chain blocks maybe I can get 1 side almost vertical
If successfully that makes it a little easier to work
I'm surprised that there so little treads about blistering on CAS while on the web it is almost common issue with older fiber glass boats
That tells you how much I know about Fiber glass boats (Not much)
Will see how this go's
Any idea,comment or solution is welcome pro or con
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Is this the same hull design as the 22.2 from the 70's just 2 foot bigger?
What I mean is: Are the degrees and lines all the same?
I hope that question came out right. :shock:
The question came out OK
I have no answer for you
You can check the info for both on this site in the photo section
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Just reviewed the pics, and you're right. But sure would be better if he could....
Scott,
Flipping is not an option for me
I will see if I can make up 2 tripods and with 2 chain blocks maybe I can get 1 side almost vertical
If successfully that makes it a little easier to work
I'm surprised that there so little treads about blistering on CAS while on the web it is almost common issue with older fiber glass boats
That tells you how much I know about Fiber glass boats (Not much)
Will see how this go's
Any idea,comment or solution is welcome pro or con
There ya go, good idea :thumright:
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Is this the same hull design as the 22.2 from the 70's just 2 foot bigger?
What I mean is: Are the degrees and lines all the same?
I hope that question came out right. :shock:
The 240 has a 14 degree deadrise at the transom. The 222 has a 12 degree deadrise at the transom. The beam on the 240 is a little wider than the 222 and the sides are a little deeper. So, no it is not just a stretched 22, although the hulls are the same basic, modified vee design.
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Hi Guys,
An update on the rebuild
I think the pictures show it all
It is not finished but we have to get some fishing done
Decided to get her first dancing lessons and must say was feeling good even with a heavy chop after some bad weather passed through
(http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy27/xo4001/20130602_103415.jpg) (http://s774.photobucket.com/user/xo4001/media/20130602_103415.jpg.html)
(http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy27/xo4001/20130602_103407.jpg) (http://s774.photobucket.com/user/xo4001/media/20130602_103407.jpg.html)
(http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy27/xo4001/20130602_103157.jpg) (http://s774.photobucket.com/user/xo4001/media/20130602_103157.jpg.html)
(http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy27/xo4001/20130602_103748.jpg) (http://s774.photobucket.com/user/xo4001/media/20130602_103748.jpg.html)
will update as we go :salut:
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Looks great :salut:
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looks awesome! any more pics of the build?
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looks awesome! any more pics of the build?
Thanks
Sorry but I'm not much as a photographer have to rely on the admiral for that and when that dust is flying or the smell of resin she is nowhere
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WOW. Very nice looking 240. I am very impressed. I love the tower. I just picked up a hardtop/tower off of a mako 285 for my 240. I will have to cut it down on the width, but it should really just end up being a little longer than yours.
Man, I really like that boat.
How do you like that higher console? I have considered using a higher console that would allow easy standing, or leaning on a leaning post. The steering wheel is also mounted much more vertically than most wheels on boats like ours. Why did you mount yours so vertical?
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Thanks Orb
I hope this will give you some motivation to finish your 240
That's what JimCT did to me unfortunately he never finished
The original console was to low for me and to create a Little more space decided to build it as it is now and I must say it is very comfortable to me also the steering is in good place when standing up
Want to ad a small leaning post and have to figure out a place for the admiral
I have no running numbers yet forya the waters where to ruff to run full open
Will let you know when I have them
Also still working on my trim tab issue and a solution is nearby I hope
Best
Martin
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Martin,
She turned out beautifully. Many things to notice. The bow pulpit...the taller console....the powder coated tower...the teak. You've updated her, but kept her classic.
That job in the Bahamas is three times as difficult as it is here in the states. Expense, importation duty, logistics....
Re the trim tabs. Run her some and experiment with the twins. See how they cock her side to side, one engine trimmed slightly above the other depending upon passenger load, seating, weight distribution, etc. Think you'll be really surprised testing the results of individual engine trim.
Congrats on a beautiful boat and a great job :salut:
On the OT....Where is your port?
Thanks
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Thanks Scott,
You got that right that it is a little more difficult overhere
But that's the price to pay when you want to live on a Island
I think the tabs will bring her faster out on plane especially she is a little heavy on her bungy (slang for backside)
And since I have them want to mount them
i will start another thread because found already trouble with the Yammies
I hope we have some yammie masters
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Martin,
Awesome rebuild on your 24' Sea Hunter! I'm very impressed. More upgrades on the way.....Custom Ipe louvered cuddy cabin doors!!
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee292/cj-7-401/2013-11-03pic_zps39fafce4.jpg) (http://s233.photobucket.com/user/cj-7-401/media/2013-11-03pic_zps39fafce4.jpg.html)
Jim C.
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Did you get the Yammies straightened out? Or go with twin 4 stroke Merc's?
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Installed the leaning post and very happy with it
Thanks Donald
(http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy27/xo4001/d0be16dd-c483-4c3b-b2d1-28736e4766c0.jpg) (http://s774.photobucket.com/user/xo4001/media/d0be16dd-c483-4c3b-b2d1-28736e4766c0.jpg.html)
(http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy27/xo4001/36f19f8d-ddaa-42e2-a249-b682b221e73b.jpg) (http://s774.photobucket.com/user/xo4001/media/36f19f8d-ddaa-42e2-a249-b682b221e73b.jpg.html)
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Glad you're back...she's beautiful!!
See you've changed to Mercs....any differences in performance/economy?
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Gran thanks,
I had the yammies to short to make a good log about speed and economics
The only thing I can say is that I'm very happy with the Merc
They quiet and perform very well
It is not a boat for speed only fun and fishing
Just ordered my down riggers and looking at some out riggers
As time and money permits we get it together
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Looks really nice!! What are your plans to keep your feet cool when up on the upper station? Not sure how often you even use the station up there since there are no controls. A spotting tower.
Is there a "stamped" HIN on the starboard side of the transom? You have a ? after the year in your signature. They didn't start requiring HIN until '73 I think.
Here is a link to a '71 offering of Aquasports - might help you figure out what you have.
http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery ... op&cat=570 (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=2823&title=as-all-models-price-op&cat=570)
What we're missing is the '72 & '73 brochures :cry:
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That is one hot boat.
And to me, in terms of lines, the prettiest Aquasport ever made.
There is renewed interest in the 240 Seahunter. Researched our archives and photo gallery extensively last night, searching for Seahunter images. They are woefully absent. We had some on the classifieds years back. Rather than be deleted with the posts, will get with CB on saving future images of this boat and others to our archives.
CAS on a daily basis is present need.
The big picture is preserving the past.
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Researched our archives and photo gallery last night, searching for Seahunter images. They are woefully absent. We had some on the classifieds years back. Rather than be deleted with the posts, will get with CB on saving future images to our archives.
CAS on a daily basis is present need.
The big picture is preserving the past.
Maybe we should send you back to "Search School" :|
http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery ... &protype=1 (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/member.php?uid=86632&protype=1)
http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery ... 71&cat=564 (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=2803&title=as-240-sea-hunter-broch-1-1971&cat=564)
Your own post.
viewtopic.php?p=105603#p105603 (http://www.classicaquasport.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?p=105603#p105603)
viewtopic.php?p=85050#p85050 (http://www.classicaquasport.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?p=85050#p85050)
In progress
http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery ... &protype=1 (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/member.php?uid=6236&protype=1)
viewtopic.php?p=80805#p80805 (http://www.classicaquasport.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?p=80805#p80805)
Remember this guy?
viewtopic.php?p=5345#p5345 (http://www.classicaquasport.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?p=5345#p5345)
Different twist on the model
http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery ... all/page/1 (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/1682/sort/1/cat/all/page/1)
Of course the old stuff is rather passe
http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery ... 564/page/1 (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/2804/sort/1/size/medium/cat/564/page/1)
And believe it or not, I have more but I'm sure everyone has grown woefully tired of my post. :mrgreen:
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Looks really nice!! What are your plans to keep your feet cool when up on the upper station? Not sure how often you even use the station up there since there are no controls. A spotting tower.
Is there a "stamped" HIN on the starboard side of the transom? You have a ? after the year in your signature. They didn't start requiring HIN until '73 I think.
Here is a link to a '71 offering of Aquasports - might help you figure out what you have.
http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery ... op&cat=570 (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=2823&title=as-all-models-price-op&cat=570)
What we're missing is the '72 & '73 brochures :cry:
RickK thanks
I found in the bilge when I was redoing her a little plastic tag broken up and tried piece it together
Could not but found that number H254
I have no idea when that year was and will probably difficult to find out
That's why I put 71? any one who knows let me know and I make an adjustment :)
The brochure from 71 that is passe :D Was the first documentation that i received from some one when I was looking for info on this boat sorry cant remember who send it to me must be 9 or 10 years ago and had several computer crashes since
The tower is there for the shade since a Ttop would not work out
My buddy use it some time to look for birds
Still have a radar to install and that can go up there as well still looking for a place to put up the screen
Thinking at top box but the tower is not high enough and will interfere with my sight will see
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Researched our archives and photo gallery last night, searching for Seahunter images. They are woefully absent. We had some on the classifieds years back. Rather than be deleted with the posts, will get with CB on saving future images to our archives.
CAS on a daily basis is present need.
The big picture is preserving the past.
Maybe we should send you back to "Search School" :|
http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery ... &protype=1 (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/member.php?uid=86632&protype=1)
http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery ... 71&cat=564 (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=2803&title=as-240-sea-hunter-broch-1-1971&cat=564)
Your own post.
viewtopic.php?p=105603#p105603 (http://www.classicaquasport.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?p=105603#p105603)
viewtopic.php?p=85050#p85050 (http://www.classicaquasport.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?p=85050#p85050)
In progress
http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery ... &protype=1 (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/member.php?uid=6236&protype=1)
viewtopic.php?p=80805#p80805 (http://www.classicaquasport.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?p=80805#p80805)
Remember this guy?
viewtopic.php?p=5345#p5345 (http://www.classicaquasport.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?p=5345#p5345)
Different twist on the model
http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery ... all/page/1 (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/1682/sort/1/cat/all/page/1)
Of course the old stuff is rather passe
http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery ... 564/page/1 (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/2804/sort/1/size/medium/cat/564/page/1)
And believe it or not, I have more but I'm sure everyone has grown woefully tired of my post. :mrgreen:
Aware of the archives and existing posts.
The classifieds delete after time...good job there.
Point is...we need to save and set aside to the Photo Gallery pics and images of restored and finished 240 Seahunters and other rare and collectible models, regardless of image sourcing, prior to loss.
The big picture is preserving the past.
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I saw a restored 240 Sea hunter at a gas station a few years back. It was an amazing looking boat with hunter a green hull.
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At one of our gatherings in Buncee pass probably 6 or 7 years ago a hunter green 240 cruised right by the 7 or 8 Aquasports backed into the beach and never even waved even though he looked over at us. He went further west and backed into the beach there :?
I think that was the same gathering where there was a 215 Explorer a hundred feet east of us and they stayed to themselves also.