Classic AquaSport

Aquasport Model Rebuilds, Mods, Updates and Refreshes => Osprey Style Hull Rebuilds => 22-2 Rebuilds => Topic started by: OldSchool on July 13, 2005, 10:23:19 PM

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Post by: OldSchool on July 13, 2005, 10:23:19 PM: time to make my old boat look young again.

the plan is to
pay a professional to blast away off the old bottom paint sand and recoat with
interlux VC Performance Epoxy (white)

then I'm doing the hull and topsides myself with interlux perfection in there dark bue color...

and then i will paint over the yellow floor with interlux interdeck in gray

so you guys think the color combination is fitting for a 76 222 Aquasport ?
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Post by: steved on July 14, 2005, 02:45:04 AM: Just a word of warning on the dark blue exterior. Hope you have plenty of time to spend on cleaning - it is about the worst for showing up scuffs, stains, salt, etc. and also is really prone to fading - particularly in a hot place like Tampa.
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Post by: DEFIANT on July 14, 2005, 11:42:13 AM: I am in the proess of painting my 222 CCP with Interlux Perfection. I just finished my second coat of the two part epoxy primer. This weekend I plan to paint the top coats with a roller and brush "tip off". The weather forcast says we will have high humidity which can cause less gloss, but I want to finish this project and get back on the water.

I understand it is more difficult to get a good gloss finish with the dark colors. If you have a high speed internet connection go to the www.yachtpaint.com (http://www.yachtpaint.com) web site, if you look around you will find a video on how to apply Perfection.

I'll be glad to give you an update on my progress.
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Post by: OldSchool on July 14, 2005, 12:46:21 PM: yes please post pictures, thanks
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Post by: steved on July 14, 2005, 03:45:05 PM: Thanks for the point towards that painting video Defiant. I probably will never attempt anything even nearly as challenging on my boat- although I am super handy on dry land. Just came to it too late - boating that is. Look forward to seein' pix of your masterpiece.
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Post by: Anonymous on July 15, 2005, 09:47:32 AM: Steved,

When I bought my boat 11 years ago it was really beat up! The previous owner leased it to an oil spill clean up company. It spent the whole winter in a river at Philadelphia dragging oil spill booms around. To the crews that worked on it the boat was just an old barge and treated is as such! They did not know they had the priviledge of working on a "Classic"!

The boat was covered with cude oil, but the price was right. They even threw in 10 gallons of pine cleaner to remove the oil.

I admit to being an amature at the repair and painting of boats, but I love a challenge!
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Post by: DEFIANT on July 15, 2005, 09:50:49 AM: Sorry, I forgot to log in. The previous post was from me.

I will try to post some pictures of my progress this afternoon.
Title: VC Performance
Post by: Anonymous on November 19, 2005, 11:24:04 AM: I was considering using the VC Performance. Did it come out nice? Did you have it sprayed? I was also wondering about the UV protection. I am about two weeks out from painting my hull. Thanks.
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Post by: warthog5 on November 19, 2005, 09:47:29 PM: Quote
I'm doing the hull and topsides myself with interlux perfection in there dark bue color...

and then i will paint over the yellow floor with interlux interdeck in gray

I'd like to make a suggestion on your color combination.
The dark Blue is usuallu refered to as "Flag Blue". It look's Black from a little distance.

Now bringing that Flag Blue above the bumprail will not look good and it will be hotter to the touch. Run white from the top of the bumprail over the washboard and down the inside to spill onto the floor. You will tape the floor 1in from the side's and layout your nonskid pattern's.
The combo of the Dark Blue and White will go well with the powder blue. It's like the Blue and White were mixed together. It will also be easy on your eye's when the sun is blairing down on you.
Use a powder blue unstead of Gray. Gray is so, well industrial/Battleshipsih.
Sure it's more work to 3 tone a boat, but after the work is done and all the complement's you get it will be worth it.

Here's a couple of examples of what I'm talking about.

(http://www.classicmako.com/projects/shallbetter/images/sb29.jpg)

(http://www.classicmako.com/projects/shallbetter/images/sb35.jpg)

(http://www.classicmako.com/projects/xshark/images/topcoat12.jpg)

Nonskid taping I use 3/4in tape off the edge first. Then a run of 3M Fineline 1/4in. [Blue in the pix] The run another layer of 3/4in to bridge between the 1st 3/4in piece and the 1/4in. This is mainly to make sure you don't get a little sliver of a diffrent color between the 3/4in and the 1/4in.

(http://www.classicmako.com/projects/xshark/images/Taping1.JPG)

(http://www.classicmako.com/projects/xshark/images/Taping4.JPG)

Finished
(http://www.classicmako.com/projects/xshark/images/Finish%20Work3.JPG)

(http://www.classicmako.com/projects/xshark/images/Fuel%20Fill2.JPG)

(http://www.classicmako.com/projects/xshark/images/LED%20Masthead1.JPG)
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Post by: warthog5 on November 20, 2005, 08:07:23 AM: Here's a pix of the powder blue used on the deck.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v199/bbrob1/willy20frnt.jpg)
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Post by: Tailgunner on November 20, 2005, 01:20:30 PM: Warthog5, that looks like one sweet fishing setup you have there.

I love Flag Blue hulls but have decided against doing it for reasons stated above. My boat goes in the water in Spring and doesn't come out again until Fall.

My plan is to sodablast off the 30 years of bottom paint and the 4 coats of house paint used above the water line. White hull, red boot stripe and green bottom paint. The decks have Petite Sandtone which has worked out real. Not glaring in sunlight nor hot.

I have not picked out paint yet but am leaning towards Perfection above the water line. Awlgrip is out of my price range.
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Post by: DEFIANT on November 21, 2005, 08:32:45 AM: Tailgunner,

Are you planning on spraying or rolling and tipping off?
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Post by: Tailgunner on November 21, 2005, 10:32:06 AM: A guy here at work is going to spray it on. He paints ocean going research buoys and does this on the side.
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Post by: RickK on November 21, 2005, 06:52:35 PM: Quote from: "DEFIANT"
...If you have a high speed internet connection go to the www.yachtpaint.com (http://www.yachtpaint.com) web site, if you look around you will find a video on how to apply Perfection.

Is anyone else having a problem finding this video? I looked for any video, not just perfection and could not find anything - did find something on the yacht page but figured it wasn't the one :?
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Post by: DEFIANT on November 21, 2005, 10:55:48 PM: Try this site. Then click on the video instructional section.

http://www.yachtpaint.com/usa/default.asp (http://www.yachtpaint.com/usa/default.asp)

I hope it works for you!
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Post by: RickK on November 22, 2005, 05:27:36 AM: Quote from: "DEFIANT"
Try this site. Then click on the video instructional section.

http://www.yachtpaint.com/usa/default.asp (http://www.yachtpaint.com/usa/default.asp)

I hope it works for you!

Thanks D. It was my popup blocker all along. Blocked the page that has the video links.
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Post by: Tailgunner on November 22, 2005, 08:07:36 AM: I get a connection refused msg when attempting to reach that site.
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Post by: warthog5 on December 03, 2005, 09:15:43 AM: Quote
My plan is to sodablast off the 30 years of bottom paint and the 4 coats of house paint used above the water line.

The bottom yes sodablast, but the sides I would not.
It would be a lot of work to get the hull fair again.
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Post by: Tailgunner on December 03, 2005, 10:41:35 AM: The problem I'm facing with the hull is the house paint the previous owner used. I assume he did this because the gel coat had faded. UV has broken down the house paint. Even a light pass with a scrubby pad causes it to wear off into the water. I also want to raise the boot stripe about 3" higher. Where I overlapped it onto the hull flaked off so I'm sure it would worse higher onto the hull.

The demo I saw didn't look like it would damage whatever is under the house paint. Am I wrong, Warthog5? I have never actually seen a boat done using this method.
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Post by: warthog5 on December 03, 2005, 11:49:28 PM: I'd recommend that you use a chemical striper on it. The house paint should come off fairly easy.
The sodablasting is going to cut into the gellcoat.
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Post by: RickK on December 04, 2005, 07:06:32 AM: I'm still trying to get those videos to play with no success - tried both 56k and broadband versions. At first it opened Winamp but would do nothing else. So I set windows media player to be the default and it can't play them either. Any ideas?
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Post by: DEFIANT on December 04, 2005, 02:27:14 PM: RickK,

I just tried it again and it worked. I have a cable modem. This is what worked for me:

Go to the product description for Perfection, then on the right side in the middle at "Video Instruction" click on one of the spots that says "broadband version". When I do that Windows Media player automatically comes on and loads the presentation. There are four different videos.

Check to see if your security settings are too high and blocking it.

Hope it works for you!
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Post by: Tailgunner on December 05, 2005, 07:56:55 AM: Quote from: "warthog5"
I'd recommend that you use a chemical striper on it. The house paint should come off fairly easy.
The sodablasting is going to cut into the gellcoat.

Do you have a preferred chemical stripper? I'll do a test spot.
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Post by: warthog5 on December 06, 2005, 09:53:52 AM: Not really. I use to use Aircraft Remover year's ago on car's.
I'm not sure of it's effect's on fiberglass, so read and be carefull.
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Post by: RickK on December 06, 2005, 07:26:56 PM: Quote from: "DEFIANT"
Check to see if your security settings are too high and blocking it.

You were right, turned the security down to medium and it came in fine. Thanks.
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Post by: DEFIANT on December 08, 2005, 10:23:22 AM: Rickk,

I applied the primer paint with the "Tip Off" method as demonstrated in the video. It took alot of wet sanding to make it smooth enough. I then got a compressor and gun to spray on the Perfection. With a little practice and testing of differant solvent blends I actually enjoyed the spraying, and the results were good as well!

I would have saved a lot of time and and energy if I sprayed from the start! But I would have missed all of that fun wet sanding!!!!!

The video is still worth watching!
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Post by: RickK on December 08, 2005, 07:10:21 PM: It was interesting to watch.
I never saw the finished product in your gallery - did I miss it?
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Post by: DEFIANT on December 09, 2005, 09:38:23 AM: Actually the only pictures I took after completion were with the camcorder. I wonder if I can pull some still pictures from the video frames?

I did not take any digital still pictures as of yet.

I pulled the boat out of the water last Saturday, just in time to beat the first snow storm! It is now sitting on the trailer at the same location as my before pictures. Next time I go down I'll be sure to get some after pictures! Other than the old T-Top it looks like a new boat!

On my last trip out I had a great fishing day, but the motor started making some nasty noises, so it looks like it will have to be towed to the repair shop! Does it ever end!!!!!
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Post by: RickK on December 09, 2005, 06:28:39 PM: We'll be looking for them pics :wink: