Classic AquaSport

Aquasport Model Rebuilds, Mods, Updates and Refreshes => Paints, topsides and bottom and Gelcoat Topics => Topic started by: Mark Sr on June 26, 2005, 01:55:17 PM

Title: Hull Painting
Post by: Mark Sr on June 26, 2005, 01:55:17 PM: Has anyone out there painted there boat using IMRON paint.
Is it sprayed on, does it need to be topped with a gel coat.
Any info greatly appreciated
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Post by: Captain on June 26, 2005, 04:23:31 PM: You might want to try talking to this guy (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4558638314&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3ASS%3AUS%3A1) selling his 19' on Ebay. Looks like he used Imron.
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Post by: John Jones on June 26, 2005, 05:15:18 PM: Imron or Awlgrip are good to go without gel coat.

Either can be sprayed or "rolled and tipped" where it is put on with a foam roller, then very lightly smoothed with the tip of a dry brush with almost no pressure. You would be amazed at how smooth it comes out.

Remember, in painting anything, it's all in the preparation.

Hope this helps.
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Post by: Wilson on June 27, 2005, 06:30:31 PM: John's got it on the prep. You can't do enough. Shoot some primer fix as much as you can. Shoot some more primer, fix as much as you can. And so on.

Imron or Awlgrip are finish coats.
Title: Hull Painting
Post by: Anonymous on June 27, 2005, 07:02:12 PM: Hey Guys,
Thanks for all the suggestions,they say you learn something new everyday.Great help
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Post by: Argo on June 29, 2005, 10:53:43 PM: Just sent my boat out for a paint job with imron, will keep you guys posted on how it comes out. Should be a little over a month before it comes back, I told him to take his time.
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Post by: Poon-Time on June 30, 2005, 08:53:26 PM: Is it better to paint or re gelcoat the hull?
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Post by: RickK on July 02, 2005, 03:26:28 AM: I painted mine with Imron. It's very thin paint so be careful not to put it on very heavy and if you do it right, it's like a mirror when dry. You can see pics in my gallery.
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Post by: Mark Sr on July 06, 2005, 03:32:27 PM: Where can I find your gallery at
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Post by: Anonymous on July 08, 2005, 05:26:22 AM: Click on "Photo Gallery" on the top teal bar of this page, click "Member Galleries", click on "R" and then click on "RickK".
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Post by: Miguel on July 08, 2005, 08:13:28 AM: RickK, for some reasons when someone clicks on your personal galleries it appears empty. To see your pix, we have to click on "Click here to see all of RickK's photos"
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Post by: RickK on July 09, 2005, 07:42:58 AM: I see that happen sometimes too :?:
Anyway, I prepped my gelcoat and bought the Imron (ain't cheap). The gal at the paint place told me that I should mix it and to keep walking around the boat until the sprayer's can was empty. It was gorgeous - you could see the house beside mine perfectly in the reflection, like a mirror. I went back into the garage to put the spray gun down and then came back to admire the job again and it was then that I saw THE PAINT SAGGING (not running) DOWN THE BOAT IN A FEW PLACES. Doh! Guess I put it on a little too heavy (musta been the last trip around) - it is very thin paint. I wiped the saggs off, let the rest harden and then went back to sanding the boat again. The next time I sprayed it I was afraid of getting the same results so I went maybe a little too light and never quite got that mirror look again, even though it is still shiny, just not the depth that I had before. :roll: Been pretty durable (someone told me it's the paint they use on aircraft), has been a couple years already. Boat washes off easily, no staining from gunk in the water I'd been boating in. Does still scratch though.
Title: Please be careful with IMRON
Post by: oyster77 on July 09, 2005, 08:30:51 PM: Hi Guys,

Please use care with IMRON...its fumes can kill by suffocation!

1983 200 XF
Title: imron
Post by: Anonymous on July 19, 2005, 11:29:29 AM: Like Oyster said be careful spraying Imron. You are supposed to wear a fresh air spray helmet when applying this stuff. It killed many a paint boot operator back in the unregulated days of painting.

If your Imron is running when you put it on just a little heavy add a little more accelerator or what I like to call "rocket fuel" . You need to play with the amount of accelerator based upon humidity and temperature. You want the paint to dry quickly but not to quick. Correct mixing and then good spray technique is the name of the game.

Imron is terrific product. Keep it waxed and will last a long time.

Kevin
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Post by: RickK on July 19, 2005, 05:26:50 PM: KL - thanks for the tips. I sprayed mine outside and knowing how dangerous this stuff is can't be stressed enough. Next time I do it, I'll still do it outside and play with the "rocket fuel" a bit since if you look up "heat and humidity" in the dictionary, there is a picture of FL (although it's tough here in Chicago today). Probably be a few years though.
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Title: USE PPG
Post by: Jason Pepper on July 30, 2005, 03:56:13 PM: PPG is what I used It's the yellow Aquasport picture posted today.

never needs wax, never chalks, sprays on and looks great. I grew up on boats and PPG is all I will ever use from now on. AWL GRIP is a pain in the #%^%$.... :P
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Post by: Seadog on July 31, 2005, 09:24:00 AM: Here's probably a stupid question: What is PPG?
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Post by: Radioshop on July 31, 2005, 09:37:45 AM: PPG=Pittsburg Plate Glass. Also known as automotive paint. I think Jason may have used one of their Urethane products. PPG is pretty nice stuff as far as auto paint goes. I think it's OEM for FoMoCo and GM. Urethane is pretty good for above waterline. You can color sand and, buff it to hide painter errors. Sikkens makes a good urethane too, OEM paint for most of the German cars. Sikkens is a product of Azko-Nobel, which also owns Interlux. It would be interesting to put a can of Interlux Interthane next to a can Sikkens Urethane and compare labels.
Title: Painting Hull
Post by: Jason Pepper on October 16, 2005, 10:38:56 AM: I spoke to my neighbor and the labor needed to paint with EMRON and GEL COAT along with the up keep is far worse than using the PPG aircraft/automobile paint, which is what I used on my Aquasport. 8mths and no color fade, no need for wax or touch up. I strongly advise the use of PPG.
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Post by: Radioshop on October 16, 2005, 10:56:10 AM: Remember gelcoat isn't totally water proof. I was originally going to re-gelcoat, but now I'm pretty sure I'll go with some sort of urethane.
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Post by: Jason Pepper on October 16, 2005, 06:29:39 PM: Gel coat also chips and is a @#$&* to apply properly.
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Post by: warthog5 on October 26, 2005, 11:04:30 AM: Jason Pepper You kind'a danced around the question.

PPG what? Concept?

Radioshop Azko-Nobel also own's Awlgrip too.
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Post by: DEFIANT on October 27, 2005, 09:23:35 AM: I used Interlux Perfection to paint my Aquasport. It was my first time at spray painting. The results were very good, I would highly recommend the product.
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Post by: Radioshop on October 27, 2005, 01:47:11 PM: Warthog,
Small world, I did not know Awlgrip was an Azko-Nobel product too. It seems to me like theres not much to seperate Interthane from Awlgrip kind of like a Camaro/Firebird thing. Since you mentioned it, my respect for Awlgrip just went up a notch.
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Post by: warthog5 on October 27, 2005, 02:09:42 PM: One way for a company to get ahead is buy out the compention.
Azko-Nobel bought out US paint aprox 1 1/2yrs ago.
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Post by: Jason Pepper on November 04, 2005, 10:02:34 AM: Sorry about the long wait, I had some issues in Key West I had to deal with.

PPG Auto and Aircraft paint. The best part about it is it requires very little maintenance.
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Post by: warthog5 on November 05, 2005, 08:24:54 AM: Quote
PPG Auto and Aircraft paint. The best part about it is it requires very little maintenance.

That still doesn't tell me what paint you used.

Here's some of their paint line's.

Delstar®/Delthane Polyurethane Acrylic Enamel System.

Duracryl® Acrylic Lacquer System

Delfleet

Deltron

Concept

Global

OMNI

Just to name a few.