Classic AquaSport
Aquasport Model Rebuilds, Mods, Updates and Refreshes => Generic Aquasport Rebuilding Topics => Topic started by: JimCt on July 06, 2007, 07:49:22 PM
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Bob (co-owner with Joel of the famous Flatback diver) has kindly loaned me a 19-6 badge to lift a mold from:
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c8/JimCT_/222_110.jpg)
He will be getting his original back with two "new" badges from the mold. The only "classic" badge I'm missing now is the 170. If anyone needs a 19-6 badge for his project or wants to replace vinyl ones, let me know. No cost... unless there is a rash of orders which will require a modest contribution to cover material expense.
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Hey Jim, would you do my 19-1 badge for me?
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Jim
i would like a set as well please
thanks slim
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Still waiting for mold material to come in but when it gets here and I get the mold made I'll make some up. Send P.M. with shipping info.
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Jim,
You know I want a set! :D
Bill
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Yes please,
sign me up for a set :D
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I am a brand new member and just got a 1975 19-6 last week and love it already. Mostly cosmetic fixes, but as you all know, that always leads to a few toher things! I only have on badge and 25% of the other.
Bobby
bdeskins@suddenlink.net
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Seems there's a need out there for a few badges. I've got you covered.
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I'm a newbee and am restoring a 1975 19-6 c/c. Boat was in pritty good cond't. I'm in need of one or two 19-6 decals. Can you help???
John
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Welcome john saco! If you notice the last post on this thread was in 07. I don't know if anyone has spoken to jimct lately maybe rickk can help us out like I thought he was going to do after the last gathering. There are many of us 19-6 owners who are waiting on a reply from jimct.
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I want on the list as well! I won't hold my breath but I am hopeful!
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Thanks Lewis, Perhaps if we say we are willing to pay for them it may happen. Since there are quite a few of us it could add up. Are there any other ways of getting some? :(
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I guess I'll try again. Hey Jimct are you out there! I will be more than willing to pay for your help with some badges for my 19-6 and I think so will a lot of other people in the same situation. Please let us know how we can help you make this happen! Thanks Lewis
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I've kinda lost hope on the 19-6 badges. However, perhaps some of you 19-6 owners can help me out on powering my 1975 19-6? I've restored the hull and am now ready for power. There seems to be a lot of confusion on powering these 19-6's. Weight seems to be the big problem because of the suppers being underwater with too much weight. I want a 4 stroke but they are heavy. I like Yamaha's but it seems Suzuki's are popular because they are lighter in weight. I was thinking of a 140 Suzuki at 419lbs for a short shaft. Much lighter than a 115 Yamaha at 466 lbs. But I'm thinking I have to be under 400lbs to keep the scuppers out of the water. A Suzuki 100hp is the same weight as the 140. I'm shooting for fuel economy and the ability to get on plane. I don't want to fly. Just get there and back. Any thoughts on a Suziki 90hp 4 stroke. It's only 341 lbs for a short shaft. That will keep my scppers out of the water but is it enough power??? Any info and help would be appreciated. I don't want to make a 8k mistake!!! John/ Ft.Myers
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I've kinda lost hope on the 19-6 badges. However, perhaps some of you 19-6 owners can help me out on powering my 1975 19-6? I've restored the hull and am now ready for power. There seems to be a lot of confusion on powering these 19-6's. Weight seems to be the big problem because of the suppers being underwater with too much weight. I want a 4 stroke but they are heavy. I like Yamaha's but it seems Suzuki's are popular because they are lighter in weight. I was thinking of a 140 Suzuki at 419lbs for a short shaft. Much lighter than a 115 Yamaha at 466 lbs. But I'm thinking I have to be under 400lbs to keep the scuppers out of the water. A Suzuki 100hp is the same weight as the 140. I'm shooting for fuel economy and the ability to get on plane. I don't want to fly. Just get there and back. Any thoughts on a Suziki 90hp 4 stroke. It's only 341 lbs for a short shaft. That will keep my scppers out of the water but is it enough power??? Any info and help would be appreciated. I don't want to make a 8k mistake!!! John/ Ft.Myers
It's kind of a tough call John. I guess you really need to ask yourself what's more important- scuppers not being submerged or higher speeds?
I had a 90hp motor on my 19-6 at one point, and it was OK. The boat planed out fine and would do just over 30mph with that motor WOT. I'd expect the new 90HP Suzy 4S would perform about the same, and would cruise between 23-25mph. That's performance like a pontoon boat. If you're ok with it, great. I wasn't ecstatic about that speed, but it got the job done, and the scuppers were still above the waterline.
I have a Suzy DF140 now, and the scuppers are normally below the waterline by about 2", unless you stand on the bow, then they are above the waterline and will drain. Otherwise, you must be on plane for them to drain.
In my opinion, the speed along with the fuel economy, not to mention more power to maneuver your boat while trying to put in on the trailer or navigate a tight creek, etc, makes the scuppers being below the waterline a small price to pay. I bought a cheap pair of ping pong ball style scuppers, and it has now become a non-issue.
Unless you plan of leaving your boat floating at dock for long periods of time, the scuppers being below the waterline is really no big deal.
Another point to consider- if you ever go to sell your boat, a 20' C/C w/ a 90HP outboard is going to seem underpowered to most of the potential buyers. If you never see yourself selling it, that is a mute point. In all honesty, if my old 90HP never bit the dust, I would probably still have it on the boat. But I'm glad it did... 8)
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I really appreciate your input and advise. It makes a lot of sense. You've just answered a lot of questions in plain talk. It's just that being self bailing was partly why I like the boat.
My only concern now is that I do plan on leaving it in the water. But I guess I could put in a pump.
Moving like a pontoon boat kinda spoiled it for me on the 90.
How do you like your 140 Suziki? Again thanks. You did help me a lot.
John
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Oh how I love my DF140, let me count the ways... :D
If you are planning on leaving it at the dock, that changes things. You may want to consider an ETEC.
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Thanks for replying. Just wondering, Why did you get a Susy and not a Yamaha? Hear in Ft.Myers it seems like Yam's are popular and easy to get serviced. Also I hear they have a higher resale value. But I've only heard good things about Susys.
I have a small 14ft Mckee Craft with a 50 h/p 4 stroke Yamaha. It's been great and trouble free. Also a six year warrenty.
I bought the 19-6 because I was getting beat up and wet on the tri-hull even with a small chop. But like the 19-6 it's built like a tank. It's a 1976. They don't build them like that anymore.
You've helped a lot. Thanks again.
John
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Somebody knows somebody!
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Thanks for replying. Just wondering, Why did you get a Susy and not a Yamaha? Hear in Ft.Myers it seems like Yam's are popular and easy to get serviced. Also I hear they have a higher resale value. But I've only heard good things about Susys.
I have a small 14ft Mckee Craft with a 50 h/p 4 stroke Yamaha. It's been great and trouble free. Also a six year warrenty.
I bought the 19-6 because I was getting beat up and wet on the tri-hull even with a small chop. But like the 19-6 it's built like a tank. It's a 1976. They don't build them like that anymore.
You've helped a lot. Thanks again.
John
I think Yammys do have better resale value. I'm not sure about service; I've never had to get mine serviced, but it is still young, so who knows... I've heard nothing but good things about both engines.
I went with the Suzy mainly because of the deal I got on it (Slvrlng is right), but there are a few selling points over the Yamaha-
-Suzuki, for one, makes a 140 which is about perfect on the 19-6. Yamaha makes a 115, then goes straight to a 150. Although, the performance between a Yammy 115 and a Suzy 140 is pretty similar with the Suzy doing only a little better on top end.
-Suzuki has an actual timing chain, whereas the yamaha has a belt.
-Suzuki has an offset driveshaft, which puts more of the weight of the engine toward the inside of the transom, as opposed to outside of the transom, which is supposed to be more balanced.
-I personally think the DF140 is dead sexy when compared to the Yamaha, and I also like the black color over the more generic gray/silver yamaha. Just my opinion there.
-Suzuki has a more aggressive gear ratio, making them capable of spinning higher pitch props, but I have trouble thinking that's actually an advantage since all you'd have to do is switch prop pitches to accomplish the same performance with either engine. I think that's more of a selling ploy.
-Suzuki 140 4s is lighter than than the Yamaha 115 4s.
That's about all I can think of now...
Edit: My Suzuki also came with a 6yr warranty
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You know, I've read page after page hear about 2 cycle verses 4. This engine and that. You know, everyone is an expert. Some even suggest two 50's!! But you in a few paragraphs have set my mind right on my 19-6. I bought the pig pong ball typy scuppers today. The Susy 140 may take a little longer.
John
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You know, I've read page after page hear about 2 cycle verses 4. This engine and that. You know, everyone is an expert. Some even suggest two 50's!! But you in a few paragraphs have set my mind right on my 19-6. I bought the pig pong ball typy scuppers today. The Susy 140 may take a little longer.
John
Glad I could help! :thumright: