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Title: New Project
Post by: Anonymous on March 15, 2005, 07:57:50 AM
I am starting to persue an older 22'2" for my rebuild project.  I'd like to get some feedback however from you all that obviously know these boats more than I do:

1.  Is there a particularly better year range of the newer-styled 22'2"?  For instance, I personally will never buy a house built in the '80's - bad experiences.

2.  Does anyone know the specs of the '75+ 22'2"?  (i.e. draft, beam, weight, etc.)

3.  Any other pre-planning suggestions welcomed.

Thanks!
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Post by: scott_gunn on March 15, 2005, 08:20:19 AM
I believe in '75 it's not a flat back, but a 12 degree deadrise at the transom.  Listed draft is 9 or 10 inches, I forget.  If it is a flat back, subtract an inch or two.

If I were rebuilding a 222, I would check the stringers and transom for rot, and replace if necessary.

These boats run better with their nose down, so if you put a big heavy engine on a big bracket, you will need to compensate by moving some weight forward.  I would try to move the gas tank forward if possible.  Definitely plan on trim tabs.  If it were me, I'd skip on a bracket and just get a hydraulic jack plate and close in the transom.  150-175hp is plenty and should help you save weight over a big 200-225 motor.  A 4 blade prop will also help with stern lift I've heard (I haven't tried it yet).  If you are a fisherman and you want a livewell I think the best place for one is the seat in front of the console, not anywhere near the transom (for weight reasons again).  Forget this whole paragraph if your's is an inboard!

DISCLAIMER - I'm not an expert, these are all just things I've considered doing to my 200 (same boat as yours, just shorter).
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Post by: scott_gunn on March 15, 2005, 08:37:56 AM
Oh yeah, spray rails.  Don't forget spray rails.
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Post by: Anonymous on March 15, 2005, 10:20:45 AM
This is what I'd like to achieve when it's all said and done (with exception of Merc attached directly to transom).  

(http://www.fishingworks.com/Users/UserFolders/mctavish2/PhotoImages/Boca%205-15-04%20031.jpg)
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Post by: steved on March 15, 2005, 11:10:00 AM
I have the exact specs for the 22.2 (1986 model). When I get home from work, I will post them for you.
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Post by: Seadog on March 15, 2005, 11:18:59 AM
That's a beautiful boat!

Any idea what's in those transom boxes?
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Post by: steved on March 15, 2005, 01:03:26 PM
As promised, 222 specs for 1986 - three different models
 Osprey (centre console with high grab rail)
Length for all three: 22'2"
Beam: 7' 11"
Draft hull: 9"
Max HP: 235
Fuel cap: 80 gal
Transom height: 25"
Dry weight: 1800 lbs
Deadrise: 12 degrees

Sandpiper (dual console, walk-through windshield)
Beam: 8'0"
Draft Hull: 12"
Max HP: 240
Fuel Cap: 85 gal
Transom height: 25"
Dry weight: 2200 lbs
Deadrise: 19 degrees

Center Console Professional (CCP) - (recessed grab rail)
Beam: 8'0"
Draft Hull: 12"
Max HP: 240
Fuel cap: 85 gal
Transom Height: 25
Dry weight: 2200 lbs.
Deadrise: 19 degrees

Hope this helps
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Post by: JimCt on March 15, 2005, 01:22:37 PM
Steved,   You have original specs. for all the old boats?  I need them for a '73 17' if you got 'em.

Maybe the specs should be posted in the new section in the gallery?
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Post by: steved on March 15, 2005, 01:29:22 PM
Unfortunately, I just shot my wad - those are the only specs I have - but those are exactly what we will be collecting for all models and all years as part of the history project.  I hope to have visual material as well as specs and we will definitely post everything we get.

Anyone who has original specs for any model, let's have 'em! Post and send them to me via email and I will archive. Once we have more than just a few, we will set up a part of the site so that everyone can see and add.
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Post by: Deck Daddy on March 15, 2005, 05:25:33 PM
Seadog,
I posted pics of those stern boxes you asked about in my member gallery. From what I researched when I baught my boat several years ago they were livewells. My port box had a viewing panel in it and the stbd had a direct pick up with just a simple inline valve. As the boat moved forward it would circulate fresh water in. The excess water exited through a series of 3/4" holes drilled on the back of the box. I since have plugged the holes and use the boxes for storage. The stbd box I left the pickup in and the inline valve in place. Made a great place to keep my tropicals I collected or my lobster.
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Post by: Wilson on March 15, 2005, 05:28:43 PM
They were definatley bait wells.  They were a factory option.  Check out those adds that we posted.  You will see some.
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Post by: Seadog on March 16, 2005, 07:24:03 AM
Thanks guys!  Those boxes are too cool.
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Post by: Anonymous on March 16, 2005, 07:44:11 AM
from what I've heard, you have to be particularly careful around docks/pilings with those boxes
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Post by: Radioshop on March 16, 2005, 08:14:11 AM
I have them on my boat.  Mine has 3/8" holes drilled in them and are used for baitwells.  They do a great job keeping live shrimp alive.  We even mounted a 9.9 kicker off one.  As for docks and, pilings, if you hit those with the boxes, your engine was in danger too.  An additional side effect is they act like trim tabs.  They're also a nice place to set your tools while working on the outboard.  I personally think a 22.2 is naked without them.
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Post by: Keith Knecht on March 16, 2005, 08:25:56 AM
The down side to the bolt on bait wells is that they serve as a funnel in a following sea and don't allow any where for the water to go except up over the transom and into the back of the boat.  Have had 222 osprey's 67, 72, 76, both with and without.  They're handy to have but murder in that following sea.  I took them off.

Keith
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Post by: Deck Daddy on March 16, 2005, 04:19:30 PM
I will agree they are hell in following seas and is does funnel water over the transom. Also I ran my boat without them for a while while I was rebuilding the tops and it ran faster. They do put drag on the boat and slowed her up a bit but after using the boat for a few years I would still keep them on. I like the livewell and extra storage, keeps the boat clutter free.
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Post by: Radioshop on March 17, 2005, 09:10:13 AM
Hmm, I've never run the boat without them.  I have noticed once in a while the tops of them are awash but I can't recall water getting dumped on the deck as a result.
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Post by: RickK on March 17, 2005, 09:08:27 PM
I know my boat doesn't need any help bringing water over the back.  Not much above the water in the back at where the motor mounts, maybe 8 inches?.
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