Classic AquaSport
Aquasport Mechanicals - things that need a wrench, screwdriver or multimeter => Engines & engine woes => Topic started by: ktisdall on March 15, 2015, 11:24:20 AM
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I have a 2003 brp evinrude 175. I need to lift it to change the motor height and to replace the steering cable.
Does anyone know the special tool to lift from the flywheel? Is that the proper way on this engine?
The typical gear puller with a ring doesn't seem to fit. I have that special tool from a 1986 omc v6 and it doesnt line up with the flywheel bolts.
--Kevin
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Use a puller with a lifting eye....I think that motor has 3/8 fine threaded holes in the flywheel...
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If you look carefully (very carefully 'cause they don't stand out) you will find lifting eyes on either side of the block. Use a chain or strap between the eyes and lift away.
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Thanks - I'll have another look but wasn't able to find any lift points up to now. I was looking toward the top of the block, not the sides.
Any possible coordinates (i.e., between FI and ecu, etc.) to narrow the search?
Again, a puller will not work. It does not have the usual small holes in the flywheel. And the special lift eye tool is about $200 now.
--Kevin
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Make one. Get a piece of steel. Drill 4 holes in it large enough to put 4 bolts through...Drill another, larger, hole in the center and tap it for a large bolt....
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standard puller worked for me
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If you look carefully (very carefully 'cause they don't stand out) you will find lifting eyes on either side of the block. Use a chain or strap between the eyes and lift away.
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My 03 90 was the same, swore they weren't there, but they are, painted black they blend into the background of the power head, I'd bet you'll find them
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OK Kevin,
This may be what you are going to need:
Part # 0342672-Lifting Eye.
This is designed to attach to the top of the crankshaft itself and is specific to 60 degree motors (like yours?).
Here's where I found it:
this is the lifting tool for 60° V6 engines
the 19 means 19 mm
http://www.etecownersgroup.com/file?id=1085333
http://www.etecownersgroup.com/file?id=1085334
http://www.etecownersgroup.com/file?id=1085335
I'm guessing this is the mystery since you don't see the threaded holes on the top of the flywheel.
I'll see if I can find any additional info.
Good luck. :thumright:
Edit: I reread your earlier post. You seem to know this already and you're looking for an alternative correct?
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Look where the numeral 1 points in this diagram. You'll make out a square eye. Look directly across the crank case and you'll see a triangular shaped eye.
http://www.boats.net/parts/search/BRP/EVINRUDE/2003/E150FCXSTD/CYLINDER%20%26%20CRANKCASE/parts.html
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Very interesting.
I looked at that diagram before and didn't see those.
That's a $200 cigar. :thumright:
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OK, take a look here. I know it's not your exact motor. It's just meant to give you a point of reference.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0xYZ-Asp1c
Stop the video at 1:36 and look at the triangle above and to the right of the guy's fingers.
This may be where it is located on you engine.
Worth a look.
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That "lifting eye" on each side of the block appears to be cast aluminum....is that the case?
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http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/019568.html
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That "lifting eye" on each side of the block appears to be cast aluminum....is that the case?
I'll guess yes, since it appears to be cast with the block.
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http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/019568.html
Great pissin' match. :popcorn:
I'm not sure Kevin has the bolt holes available to use that type. It would work on my 96 for sure. I don't own a welder so I used bolts and chain and it worked fine but....
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff108/r-berlin/IMG00005.jpg) (http://s237.photobucket.com/user/r-berlin/media/IMG00005.jpg.html)
A pic of his flywheel would be nice but I'm thinking he needs that lifting eye that screws into the crank itself or.... goes with the cast in place attachments. Maybe they are for moving a block assembly around and not designed support the complete motor. :ScrChin:
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His flywheel should have 4 holes around the center....http://www.boats.net/parts/search/BRP/JOHNSON/2003/J175CXSTA/ELECTRICAL%20SYSTEM/parts.html
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I'll try to get a pic of the flywheel tonight.
I already have a lift ring special tool for my old engine which was 1986. That had the three small holes and it was possible to use a gear puller.
Not this one. Repeat - puller will not work, homemade or not.
The special tool that attaches to the crank end is over $200 so I'm trying not to buy it.
Thanks for the video and diagrams. Very helpful. I'll look tonight and see how beefy the cast loops in the block look. I'd rather spend the $200 than to drop the engine and crack the block.
--Kevin
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OK I found the on-block lifting points. They look pretty stout so I'm going to try those. I'd feel better if someone else could confirm they have lifted their 175hp v6 engine off using those with a chain. I plan to use shackles to connect to the lift eyes.
I've attached a picture looking down on the flywheel. Notice the bolt pattern. That is why the normal puller won't work.
--Kevin
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I've lifted my 150 with the block eyes many times. The 150 is the same motor as your 175 with a few mods to to carburetors. The weight and the block are identical. You'll have no problem.
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I have a 1992 Johnson 150 with the same lifting eyes and I have plucked mine on and off the hull about 4 different times using a chain and 2 oval ring bolts and lifting it with an engine hoist. :great02: Right now the motor is hanging on an engine stand I built from 4x4s and 2x4s on wheels and will be re-installed an about 3 weeks when the bottom painting is finished. I've never had a problem using the eyelets on the block..
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Thanks much for that feedback. I should be doing the removal in a couple of weeks.
--Kevin
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:1rij:
Well it worked like a charm. I used a 1/2" mooring shackle on the stbd side loop after unplugging some wires and a vacuum hose to get clearance. To that I ran a 3/8" dyneema line with spliced loops in the ends. Ran the line over the lift hook, through the port side loop and then put the loop end on the lift hook (boat club hoist (4 tons)).
Took the load off the bolts with the hoist, undid the nuts and swung the engine away a little.
Got my steering cable changed and lifted the engine one bolt hole to try and get the cav plat in the right place. Never disturbed the lower bolts.....
No drama, just like I like it.
The lift line now goes on to be used as a single point lift for my Rhodes 18 sailboat.
Thanks for inspiring confidence.
--Kevin