Classic AquaSport
Aquasport Model Rebuilds, Mods, Updates and Refreshes => Osprey Style Hull Rebuilds => Flatback 22-2 Rebuilds => Topic started by: captjayclark on May 12, 2014, 08:51:05 PM
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Hi, My name is J.J. Clark I am new to the site, and I just started a rebuild on my grandpas boat he bought brand new From Tuppen's in 1971. I am a 21 year old guy that is now a salesmen for Tuppen's. He passed away a few years ago and iv grown up watching this thing sit in the yard. I think its time she floats again!!! I am not trying to go in over my head on a full restore project like some iv seen on the site. But I also do not want to cut any corners. So far I have cut the whole floor up and pulled all the foam out of the bow. Should i re-do the whole stringer system or possibly make room for a under deck fuel tank and ride out. Also the other big question is placement of motor on the transom. I see almost everyone running the hydra-jack which I found for 2,400 dollars :shock: I can order an atlas jack plate at my cost for 700. does it really pay to have that extra setback?
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http://s1277.photobucket.com/user/captj ... 5.jpg.html (http://s1277.photobucket.com/user/captjayclark/media/boat_zpsa1b096e5.jpg.html)
This is a link to my photo bucket Believe you should be able to look at my build pics threw there.
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(http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh301/seabob4/20140511_185851_zpsb30e55c9.jpg)
I ain't gonna say anything Rick, CB...
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Welcome!! :salut:
Your family's boat is beautiful. A one of a kind nowadays. Her provenance really enhances the value.
All good on where you are now in the process....you can keep the transom open on the rebuild, or go Tampa-style, closed with bracket. Either way, there is great experience here rebuilding flatbacks :thumright:
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Thanks for the help with the pictures. What was I doing wrong it kept saying can't be over 800 pixels high but it wasnt.
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(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data//500/Flatback.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=9721&title=flatback&cat=500)
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What was I doing wrong it kept saying can't be over 800 pixels high but it wasnt.
I'm not sure but... I saved the image you see above and it shows it at 576 wide x 1024 height on my photo editor. :scratch: :scratch:
It's usually (always) accurate dealing with file sizes so........
I loaded to the Photo Gallery and it auto-scaled it to fit.
Same for this one.
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data//500/flatback_2.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=9722&title=flatback-2&cat=500)
Currently the Forum is on a 800 x800 file size limit. I'm thinking in the future we will be going to the old 640 x 480 standard. Only time will tell.
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At least there up now :cheers: . So what is the real advantage of a hydra-jack vs a std jackplate? I will be mainly running to the sandbar and offshore on nice days. For those who Are not familiar with palm beach waters.. I have almost no good inshore fishing but a half mile out I'm in 100 feet of water fishing nice reefs
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At least there up now :cheers: . So what is the real advantage of a hydra-jack vs a std jackplate? I will be mainly running to the sandbar and offshore on nice days. For those who Are not familiar with palm beach waters.. I have almost no good inshore fishing but a half mile out I'm in 100 feet of water fishing nice reefs
That's a good question. If you don't close in the transom, I think you will be fine with the jackplate. However, if you do close in the transom, your cowling may hit the transom if you try to tilt it up while not fully raised. And if you are planning to use this as an offshore boat, closing in the transom may be a very good idea.
And welcome to the site! Always nice to see another flattie on here!
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At least there up now :cheers: . So what is the real advantage of a hydra-jack vs a std jackplate? I will be mainly running to the sandbar and offshore on nice days. For those who Are not familiar with palm beach waters.. I have almost no good inshore fishing but a half mile out I'm in 100 feet of water fishing nice reefs
Sailfished many times from your fine port Lake Worth Inlet. Riviera Beach to the north, Palm Beach proper to the south. Sailfish Marina, The Buccaneer, Cannonsport Marina. Bill Buckland's, Rupp, and Murray Brothers on the causeway over. No place like Palm Beach :thumright:
You have just joined. We will soon be going through a change regarding photo-posting. Getting back to easy, where we were before. If the site shuts down in the next few days...that's why.
Re jackplate style...let's build her first, and talk that over when rigging. Your main decision before too long is open/closed transom. If you want to sailfish her in that big December/January ocean....close the transom.
With a nod towards your grandpa, we ought to set her up Palm Beach style. Right down to blonde covering boards :wink:
Just saw Craig's post as was posting. He has a '67 honey-pie flatback. Follow our flatback rebuild threads, three active at present. Study them hard to save time, grief, and money.
Looking forward to your build!
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Just saw Craig's post as was posting. He has a '67 honey-pie flatback. Follow our flatback rebuild threads, three active at present. Study them hard to save time, grief, and money.
Looking forward to your build!
as Scott said, dirtwheels, callyb, clm, oldskool, and mine. all good builds currently being done and each is doing something a little different making the boat theirs. look over al the builds to give you an idea of exactly what you'd like to do.
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Hi JJ and welcome aboard :salut:
It's very rare to see a flattie where the stringers still look great and attached to the hull. I'd be tempted to just leave them as is. You could cut the tops open to remove the old foam and then refoam with new stuff that doesn't absorb water. Then trim off the extra foam and re-glass the tops closed.
If you want to put the fuel tank below the sole you're going to have to cut out a portion of the center stringer and add bulkheads.
If you want to do this quick and end up with a usable boat you may want to leave it original - replace the transom coring, sole (plywood or composite), leave the fuel tank inside the console and be done with it. These boats were designed for small motors - Joel and Bob, members from long ago have the same boat with a 90 on her and it ran great.
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data//500/68visiting3.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=2062&title=visiting3&cat=500)
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data//500/68platform_down1.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=2063&title=platform-down1&cat=500)
As mentioned earlier, there are plenty of examples of rebuilds going on here to learn from.
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Morning CJJ,
I went back to your PB site and checked each photo size. The one below is 480 x800 and posted with no problem.
(http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y493/captjayclark/20140511_185851_zpsd8f87b14.jpg) (http://s1277.photobucket.com/user/captjayclark/media/20140511_185851_zpsd8f87b14.jpg.html)
You do however have several that exceed that size (as I stated above) and that is what caused this problem.
Error message: "Cannot determine file size" = Server error = my bad: "Photo exceeds 800 wide/high" = file size error = poster's bad.
Many members like PB (I use it also just not as much) and you can cut and paste directly to your post (do not click the "Img" button in the tool bar). Just remember to check the raw file size (not the PB view size) and that it is no greater than 800 x 800 and you'll be fine.
Good luck. :thumright:
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I actually opened back up the image size for one that is being pasted into a post either from our gallery or anywhere, to 1100Wx800H. That should cover most pics (max dimensions on Photo bucket are 1024x768, or at least used to be).
I changed the auto sizing if you load pics to our gallery to 640Wx480H to try to save a little space as we move forward.
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Rick, 640 X 480 is perfect. Allows a good size photo (where we can all see what we need to) without causing anyone to have to scroll across the page...