Classic AquaSport
Aquasport Model Rebuilds, Mods, Updates and Refreshes => Center Console Professional (CCP) Rebuilds => 246/250 CCP Rebuilds => Topic started by: NavyCWO on April 18, 2014, 12:05:06 PM
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Hello to all!! I am new to this site and forum, recently purchased a 1985 250 CCP with T 140 loopers (original engines and I noticed that the previous owner was on this site with pics of the boat a couple years ago) boat is still in solid shape but with many surface gel coat and glass dings and cracks, and it needs a paint job, Taking her in tomorrow to a place here in Fernandina to get an estimate on all the cosmetic stuff fixed and a new paint job, My question, I want a full transom to put a bracket on so I will have more room in the back for a live well setup, has anyone done this? it looks like a major job, a lot of cutting, any insight would be helpful to this would be great, I want to make her look nice, I retire from the navy in a few years and she will be my retirement past time!! Thanks for having me on your site!! :salut:
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There are a number of rebuilds going on for CCPs. I'll take a look but some do indeed include a closed transom. Bracket mounting with both enclosed and open has also been done.
This is the one that would best illustrate what you are contemplating but is still a work in progress. Extremely well documented and read required for re-builders in general and any length CCP in specific.
http://classicaquasport.com/smf/index.php?topic=7670.0
Just something different but on the same wave.
http://classicaquasport.com/smf/index.php?topic=10197.0
While not a full enclosure or bracket, it removes the "space robbing" transom splash well area turning it into a better usable space.
Good luck. :thumright:
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Welcome...
I have a 22' CCP in progress new enclosed transom with a new custom bracket. Check it out. The title is 1987 CCP222.
Oh by the way make sure you take plenty of pictures during your rebuild.
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Damn. :ScrChin:
Fish, I knew there was another I wanted to link. <!-- s:thumright: -->:thumright:<!-- s:thumright: -->
http://classicaquasport.com/smf/index.php?topic=9164.0
I'm just gettin' old.
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Thank you for all of the help, im taking her in tomorrow morn to get an estimate on the work I want done, I will be deploying in jun for 8 months and I expect it to be done upon my return, that is if the price is right, I will let you all know!!!! :salut:
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Thank you for all of the help, im taking her in tomorrow morn to get an estimate on the work I want done, I will be deploying in jun for 8 months and I expect it to be done upon my return, that is if the price is right, I will let you all know!!!! :salut:
Good luck on your deployment, thank you for your service! :salut: :salut:
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I think a 250 CCP with an enclosed transom and a bracket would be the bee knees. We have seen horror stories on here of rebuilders doing a terrible job on rebuilds... so make sure you ask for pictures of rebuilds he's done and references from past customers.
Thaks for your service and well and good luck! :salut:
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Damn. :ScrChin:
Fish, I knew there was another I wanted to link. :thumright:
http://classicaquasport.com/smf/index.php?topic=9164.0
I'm just gettin' old.
I was wondering!! That's ok I will let you off this time. :thumright:
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Thank you for all of the help, im taking her in tomorrow morn to get an estimate on the work I want done, I will be deploying in jun for 8 months and I expect it to be done upon my return, that is if the price is right, I will let you all know!!!! :salut:
Thank you for your service and keeping us all safe. :salut:
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Have experience crewing on a 250 CCP running twin 115 V-4 two stroke Yamahas. Fast, soft-riding, seaworthy hull. Twins are the way to stay on this ride. You'll enjoy!
Regarding the work:
Unless the deck is soft, wouldn't open her up yet. If you want to enclose the transom and add an Armstrong bracket for the twins....you're in for a full rebuild. Deck, stringers, tank, transom, rewire, console update, etc. 10K turns to 30K quickly.
Would forget the cosmetics for now (new paint) and run her for a season or two. These boats were built stout.....the CCP's don't have the seepage problems of their little sisters.
Check the tank if original...it's 29 years old. Any questionable issues...replace it now. Safety first.
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Well, got a couple of estimates for the glass work and paint, one estimate was way out there and the other was much more reasonable, im going with awl grip fighting Lady Yellow, rub rail down and awl grip gloss white cap and inside boat and console, with the FLY in the non skid areas. as far as the bracket goes, still pondering that, might just modify the transom area a little to have a little more room. Engines, the 140 loopers on this boat are original, and I cant believe how good they run, I may just run them till they drop, anyone have any experience with these ?How well will they move this boat? trying to find a brochure on this boat but no luck yet, and finally fuel tank size? anyone? I will check the tank tag tomorrow, tank looks real good its got to be atleast 120 Gal. Thanks so much for everyone's help!!!!!!
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See if this helps.
http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery ... -9&cat=574 (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=2864&title=as-all-models-86-9&cat=574)
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Capt. Bob
thanks for all your info!! it appears that you are the aquasport guru!! it appears that this boat is about 95% original.. will post before and after pics, once again thanks
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Capt. Bob, it appears that you are the aquasport guru!!
Looks can be very deceiving. :?
I just happen to know my way around the Forum. 8)
By all means, please post pics when you can. :idea:
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Welcome Navy.
First off, thank you for your service to this country. I am grateful for your sacrifices.
Capt Bob provided a link to my 246 rebuild. I am going forward with a bracket. Im not quite there yet but I should be picking back up on the project in the next few weeks. Welcome to the Aquasport family and keep us posted on your build. we love pictures!!!!
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Capt. koz,
thanks, 3 more years and they are going to send me home, ah, I guess 32 years of active duty is enough. I was looking at some of your work, very impressive. mine is really solid, just a cosmetic nightmare, taking her in this weekend so they can get started on it, its not cheap!! thanks for the info!! :salut:
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Good evening, have a question, on my center console, there is a full size aluminum type plate where my helm throttles etc are. in the right hand side upper corner is nicely engraved "Center Console Professional" by Aquasport (written),
looks good, is this a stock item? looked underneath console, its not covering any holes. anyone?
Thanks,
NavyCwo :salut:
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Yep, stock from the factory.
Take it off, clean it up....
Put the black background back in, with a nod to the past :wink:
You're going to love that boat! :thumright:
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sounds like you have a nice boat on your hands. stay safe overseas. we expect pics on her when you get back. post some befores up now though.
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Capt. koz,
thanks, 3 more years and they are going to send me home, ah, I guess 32 years of active duty is enough. I was looking at some of your work, very impressive. mine is really solid, just a cosmetic nightmare, taking her in this weekend so they can get started on it, its not cheap!! thanks for the info!! :salut:
I dont know what kind of numbers they quoted you and even if you told me I could not tell you if that is fair or not. What I can tell you is glass work is not impossible, but it definitely takes more time and effort than you think it does. Luckily I have the spare time here and there but if I had to pay myself by the hour to do the work im going, im not sure it would be worth it.
Im enjoying the process of learning and the pride of doing it myself, but man sometimes I think how nice it would be to drop $5,000 or $10,000 and pick it up when its done and go fishing. Keep us posted!
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Capt. koz,
thanks, 3 more years and they are going to send me home, ah, I guess 32 years of active duty is enough. I was looking at some of your work, very impressive. mine is really solid, just a cosmetic nightmare, taking her in this weekend so they can get started on it, its not cheap!! thanks for the info!! :salut:
I dont know what kind of numbers they quoted you and even if you told me I could not tell you if that is fair or not. What I can tell you is glass work is not impossible, but it definitely takes more time and effort than you think it does. Luckily I have the spare time here and there but if I had to pay myself by the hour to do the work im going, im not sure it would be worth it.
Im enjoying the process of learning and the pride of doing it myself, but man sometimes I think how nice it would be to drop $5,000 or $10,000 and pick it up when its done and go fishing. Keep us posted!
Probably more than that Koz...
I probably spent 2-4k on materials already.
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So you are saying paint the aluminum plate black? I don't think it will shine up, was going to smooth it up, spray it with gloss black and fill in the words in gold. what do you think?? :scratch:
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I was saying put the lettering (engraving) back in black. But if its real corroded, your idea sounds better!
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Hello, well, I dropped off the 250CCP today. gonna look new when I get her back, complete cosmetic make over, all dings scratches will be gone, black bottom, Fighting Lady yellow, water line to rub rail, snow white, cap and over, hull color non skid on deck enclosed transom, having a raised platform in front of transom(inside boat) in boat with a built in 30 gal a livewell. putting a bracket on her, THE question to you all, single 250 with a kicker, or twins, trying to keep maintenance costs down... its costing me $$$$$$$, but it will look awesome!!!! looking for the forums thoughts, thanks.. :?: :scratch: :salut:
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As mentioned, have crewed on your boat many times. To me, for that hull...twins are the only way to go. And since you're adding a bracket....twin 150's should be perfect.
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Thanks, Gran.. :salut:
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Twin 200 Optis... :cheers:
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Thank you sir, my pleasure!
As said many times before....we love to spend each other's money :mrgreen: But in your case...you have a great running, great riding hull, whose performance is maximized with twins. A single 250 would in some instances (heavy load, big crew, offshore day, etc) fail to meet your expectations. A 300 would get the job done....but offshore, you'd lack the peace of mind you'll have running twins.
A buddy runs a 2006 Hydrasport 24 CC with a F 250 Yamaha. Four of us went offshore fishing, 50 miles out....bait, tackle, ice, gear, beer, food, four Electramates, extra batts, etc., etc.,.....that 250 four stroke wasn't enough. Actually dangerous running the inlet on a falling tide with that load. No torque, unresponsive on the throttle. Frankly....it was a dog.
Now posting...and see SB's post. He LOVE's power! :thumright: And yep, since you're going with the bracket....twin 200's would be dechit. Or anywhere between.
Looking forward to seeing her ready to rock 'n roll!
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you can never have too much power...within reason. twin 150s or 200s like bob said would be best. too large of a boat for a single imo.
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Ok, twins it is, 150's ought to do the trick, maybe 200's. Anyone have a used twin bracket they want to get rid of?? :scratch: also anyone have any idea what the transom angle on this boat would be??? Thanks :salut:
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also anyone have any idea what the transom angle on this boat would be??? Thanks <!-- s:salut: -->:salut:<!-- s:salut: -->
15 degrees is the usual assumption.
http://classicaquasport.com/smf/index.php?topic=7553.0
DIY
http://www.rocketflap.com/transom_calc.php (http://www.rocketflap.com/transom_calc.php)
Good luck.
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Thanks Capt. Bob!!!
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Well, since I am going to repower, looks like I will be selling the 1985 140HP loopers. they run good, they have the V6 gear cases on the I believe. not sure what they are worth. will post more when I find out. :salut:
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If you have twins already why not just run them til they drop? Add your bracket but use your existing controls and stuff (may have to get longer control cables) and recover from the rebuild until they go south and then make the purchase.
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If you have twins already why not just run them til they drop? Add your bracket but use your existing controls and stuff (may have to get longer control cables) and recover from the rebuild until they go south and then make the purchase.
Definitely an economics aspect there, Rick, but if the denero for the re-power is gonna depend on a little recoup from the sale of the 140s...
Just saying.
Speaking of repowers, talking with Dr. Mike yesterday morn, him and his buddy bought a 28 Whitewater for use in the keys. They got a hell of a deal on 250 Zukes. '14 250s (twins, of course), ALL rigging, SMIS and electronic controls...for $35K installed! Now THAT'S a deal!!
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Rickk, that was going to b the original plan, I know they run good, bit I have no history on them, they could have a few thousand hours or so, don't know. I don't have big bucks, was hoping to find a decent used pair somewhere..
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Navy, check the CLs throughout FL. Miami, Tampa, Ft. Myers, there are ALWAYS big buck CC owners that are repowering, although more typically in the 225/250 range. I had a customer that had twin 200 HPDIs, perfectly good motors, that repowered with Zukes simply because he wanted to. Nothing wrong with the motors at all.
So look around, they're out there... :thumleft:
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You could definitely run the 140's.....That 250 we ran was powered with V-4 115 Yammies.
If you went with 200's....one would probably plane it.... :thumright:
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Navy, check the CLs throughout FL. Miami, Tampa, Ft. Myers, there are ALWAYS big buck CC owners that are repowering, although more typically in the 225/250 range. I had a customer that had twin 200 HPDIs, perfectly good motors, that repowered with Zukes simply because he wanted to. Nothing wrong with the motors at all.
So look around, they're out there... :thumleft:
just like the 225 merc I picked up at my work dirt cheap. 130 hours on a brand new powerhead, repowered with a new 250 zuke just because.
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Evening, well been hunting for engines and have a line on a few pairs from T150-T225, don't want to go higher than 200 though, brackets, another issue, still looking, so here I go 2 more questions. 1, I have found a couple brackets that vary 12-13 degrees transom angle, but have been told mine is at 15* will the 2-3 difference have a great effect or is it a issue. 2, shaft length, what length should I be looking at for a bracket, need more of your helpful knowledge to make this boat right.. Thanks all. :salut:
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My suggestion would be to measure the angle on the transom.
I would think the bracket builder will use that measurement in the construction of your bracket.
In my application, I mounted the bracket flush with the transom cutout. I used a 25" shaft length.
Good luck.
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I too would measure the transom angle just to be certain. You can buy a basic angle finder at HD cheap...
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Or just get the framing square out. :mrgreen:
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Or just get the framing square out. :mrgreen:
Yes, you can. Using the Law of Sines, it's actually very easy... :thumright:
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Or just get the framing square out. :mrgreen:
Yes, you can. Using the Law of Sines, it's actually very easy... :thumright:
Now don't get Bob started again :mrgreen:
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Or just get the framing square out. :mrgreen:
Yes, you can. Using the Law of Sines, it's actually very easy... :thumright:
Well the framing square is the ticket but technically you'll be solving a right triangle using the ratio of two sides to a given trig function. If you use the scales on the framing square for the measurements you will be solving for the tangent of the transom angle.
Navy, do you have access to the hull?
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However, if one does not have a framing square with scales on it, one can use a simple square, or in my case, my draftsman's T-square, and use Law of Sines. I used my little Sea Sprite as an example...
(http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh301/seabob4/20e7be99-5cb8-4c85-86c3-7fbe8f8a941a_zpsddf9c11b.jpg)
Basically, the Law of Sines comes down to the side opposite the angle you want to find divided by the hypotenuse (the side opposite the 90* angle...
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You guys are the best, but I need some good feedback have been looking at many engines, but here we go, mint condition Johnson 275 hp V8, never seen salt water!! i am thinking that with the engine being around 600 lbs that is roughly 200 less than twins, and with all the torque it should not be that bad on fuel and should push the boat ease, your thoughts please, :scratch: :salut:
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You guys are the best, but I need some good feedback have been looking at many engines, but here we go, mint condition Johnson 275 hp V8, never seen salt water!! i am thinking that with the engine being around 600 lbs that is roughly 200 less than twins, and with all the torque it should not be that bad on fuel and should push the boat ease, your thoughts please, :scratch: :salut:
Just a quick read here, navy...http://www.performanceboats.com/outboar ... 00-v8.html (http://www.performanceboats.com/outboards/54344-johnson-300-v8.html) Same motor as the 275...
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Agree with the link, and opinions from the past. Let's keep looking a nice set of twins.
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Evening all, anyone know anyone that might have a twin engine bracket with or without full platform? been searching all over, have found a few but these guys act like they have the last ones on the planet and imho want way too much.. anyone have a line on one 13-15 degrees... thanks.. :salut:
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Evening all, anyone know anyone that might have a twin engine bracket with or without full platform? been searching all over, have found a few but these guys act like they have the last ones on the planet and imho want way too much.. anyone have a line on one 13-15 degrees... thanks.. :salut:
Give Jake at MCL a holler, his # on the Vendor forum.
Another place to try would be Sailorman....they have a lot of stuff they pull off wrecks, sinkings, etc.
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Gentlemen, im back to a single again, going with a new Suzuki 250 or 300, still debating it all but the savings with the performance will make up for it in the long run, looks like it may get as much as 4.1 mpg @ cruise with this hull on a bracket. my range and fuel will increaseby at least 34% over a 2 stroke.. still liked that 275 Johnson, but it likes the taste of fuel,,oh, I tried to upload some pics with the tutorial, guess im just too much of a dinosaur to make that work!!! :scratch: :salut:
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Gentlemen, im back to a single again, going with a new Suzuki 250 or 300, still debating it all but the savings with the performance will make up for it in the long run, looks like it may get as much as 4.1 mpg @ cruise with this hull on a bracket. my range and fuel will increaseby at least 34% over a 2 stroke.. still liked that 275 Johnson, but it likes the taste of fuel,,oh, I tried to upload some pics with the tutorial, guess im just too much of a dinosaur to make that work!!! :scratch: :salut:
And of course, my pat answer...try photobucket...
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Men, did it bought a pair of old school Johnson 200'S cr, 500 hours.. pressing forward :cheers: :salut:
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Men, did it bought a pair of old school Johnson 200'S cr, 500 hours.. pressing forward :cheers: :salut:
Ocean Runner/Ocean Pros?
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bought the 1989 Johnson 200 loopers, pick them up on sat!!! should push the 250CCP along just nice :salut:
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those old loopers are good motors. can be made to make good power. just need to keep up with them. did you check compression and see them run? confirm spark on all cylinders etc?
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bought the 1989 Johnson 200 loopers, pick them up on sat!!! should push the 250CCP along just nice :salut:
Yowzer!! Hold onto your hats! :thumright:
SB is gonna make yours his special project :wink: ....he LOVE'S horsepower!
Can't wait to seeing the 'ol gal struttin' her stuff :cheers:
And looking back through your thread, you will have no problem with bracket angle. Reminds me of the old tune..."Sine, Sine, Everywhere a Sine" :mrgreen:
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gran, she should move, I am thinking all trimmed at least 50mph, problem the fuel tank is in great shape, but she only holds 120gal. :salut:
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mech, im buying them from said compression is good, they sound awesome running throaty and smooth. do believe the the trasom angle is 15 degrees but have heard 13 is acceptable. for the bracket no less than 26'' setback.. :salut:
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The 200s will be perfect for the 250. Have you thought about engine spread? I'm thinking 27"-28" would be about perfect...
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SB, don't know about that much of a spread, probably half that with the brackets I have seen, would like to find one I could afford, damn expensive how much of a diff, would that make? :salut:
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SB, don't know about that much of a spread, probably half that with the brackets I have seen, would like to find one I could afford, damn expensive how much of a diff, would that make? :salut:
I'm talking center-to-center, that's how it's measured. On a 250CCP, I'd recommend what I stated above, 28" preferable...
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Navy, try Sailorman for the bracket. They have all kinds of large parts...cheap. And from previous experience.....they'll readily take offers/negotiate.
As Bob says, center to center on the spread...that is, center prop hub to center prop hub....28 inches between on your ride. Fourteen inches off centerline per each.
When it comes time to set the twin engine height to the hull....gotcha covered there too :wink:
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Chief I am glad you went with twins.. Going to be much happier with the safety and maneuverability then with a big single. Now if you could only bolt up the Yam TRP lower to them you would really have something? :mrgreen:
OBTW is it Chief, Senior or Master?
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, would like to find one I could afford, damn expensive how much of a diff, would that make?
Yeah, the internet is good at spending your money but.....
I'm a bracket fan and if I ever did another on my current boat (or any other) I would have it made for that hull. It is indeed expensive but you get exactly what you want based on the dimensions of your boat. Since you're planning on twins, why not get them spaced where you want and get the transom angle on the nose. Yes, it will cost you more but the bracket manufacturer can work with you in getting it right rather than crossing your fingers.
Sailorman is a good place to look (I wonder if they still have that Irish singing music while on hold :roll: ) and getting your dimensions correct (Armstrong has a worksheet on their site) will allow you to measure a used one and compare. You could get lucky and save some coin. :idea:
Lastly, the manufacturer supplies a template for mounting which is very helpful when hanging the bracket.
Just thoughts from a one time bracket guy.
Good luck. :thumright:
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CB, yes they do. The artist is the famous Irish pirate....Blackbeard O'Malley.
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Thanks all, it will move, dburr, was a CPO AW helo type, Chief Warrant Officer now, 3 more years to go 32 years will be complete and will enjoy retirement!! :salut:
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Well,,,, If there is any defense, I got a 33 on the ASVAB section for paying attention.. How I saw CPO in your screen name I can not explain. I worked that night, yeah that's it... :oops: :roll: :roll:
Former AW with 32... :salut: :salut:
Damn!!
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Gents, I picked up the engines today, they look and run great, had the same year on my 25, hydrasport vector, never had a problem and they hauled ass, IM reaching out to the Aquasport expertise again, I didn't buy the props, they were 15x17, but his boat was a beautiful 1962 Bertram moppie and I believe much heavier.. any idea for this 250 CCP what size props I will need and would a 4 blade make it better? standing by for the SME return!!! thanks.. :scratch: :salut:
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Run 'em as they are for now and see where they'll turn.
The prop sellers are going to need a benchmark to fine-tune.
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what about 4 blade?? :salut:
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From my limited knowledge a four blade is designed to lift the stern.
That you'll be running a bracket adds to the equation....
Hopefully some of the boys will chime in :thumright:
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I have a 4 blade on my flats boat and it is awesome and will have the same on my Aqua :wink: . Yes they do lift the stern but this helps with getting on plane. I would contact Prop Gods in Sarasota. Very helpful and knows almost every boat and prop combo to help. If you take the boat to him, he will sea trial it to get the right prop also.
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After reviewing the vendor website, their biz seems tuned to go-fast and bass boats, etc.
Different than what Navy needs....although they do show some 17 and 18 pitch.
Twins...trips...quads. Everything changes.
Dale Hadley...please check in and advise...thanks :thumright:
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After reviewing the vendor website, their biz seems tuned to go-fast and bass boats, etc.
Different than what Navy needs....although they do show some 17 and 18 pitch.
Twins...trips...quads. Everything changes.
Guess I'm looking at a different site. The one I went to had a cc, flats, pontoon, bass, aluminum skiff.
I must have a different link. :scratch:
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http://www.props-plus.com/Turbo_Propellers.html (http://www.props-plus.com/Turbo_Propellers.html)
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After reviewing the vendor website, their biz seems tuned to go-fast and bass boats, etc.
Different than what Navy needs....although they do show some 17 and 18 pitch.
Twins...trips...quads. Everything changes.
Guess I'm looking at a different site. The one I went to had a cc, flats, pontoon, bass, aluminum skiff.
I must have a different link. :scratch:
Looking at Dale's prop site...offshore rides with multiple engines are not referenced or addressed.
Hopefully he'll advise.
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Scotty, looking at the props available from Dale, as indicated by the CR props in his inventory, he IS addressing multiple engined offshore boats, up to and including 16 inchers for Zuke's bigger gearcases.
I would say it's somewhat similar to Prop Gods where you describe to Dale what model boat you have, the weight (or estimated), type of power, what you desire (hole shot, top end, mid-range, fuel economy, etc.), and he recommends the prop (or set of props) that he feels will best met your needs/wants...
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After reviewing the vendor website, their biz seems tuned to go-fast and bass boats, etc.
Different than what Navy needs....although they do show some 17 and 18 pitch.
Twins...trips...quads. Everything changes.
Guess I'm looking at a different site. The one I went to had a cc, flats, pontoon, bass, aluminum skiff.
I must have a different link. :scratch:
Looking at Dale's prop site...offshore rides with multiple engines are not referenced or addressed.
Hopefully he'll advise.
Well I'm not a "Prop Guru" even in my sleep but.....
Since Navy asked about a 4 blade.....
http://www.turbo-props.com/products/tur ... series_toi (http://www.turbo-props.com/products/turbo-offshore-i-series_toi)
Just have to navigate the site.
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Lew has PM'd Dale. Looking forward to his input :thumright:
Missed that part of the site guys, so stand corrected...notice the prop CB posted is ported...interesting.
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Lew has PM'd Dale. Looking forward to his input :thumright:
Missed that part of the site guys, so stand corrected...notice the prop CB posted is ported...interesting.
http://www.mercurymarine.com/propellers ... ogies/pvs/ (http://www.mercurymarine.com/propellers/advantage/technologies/pvs/)
I like the way Merc has plugs with varying sized openings so you can theoretically control the anount of areation the blades see. We used Michigan Wheel props at Stamas, they were ported but you only got a solid plug kit with the prop...all or nothing...
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Gents, still looking for a bracket, had one then the guy changed his mind after we had a deal and I guess he got offered more money from someone local, I do have a Question,, I am putting Twin 1989 Johnson 200's on the back of her, weight shouldn't be an issue is it? I had a pair of T 140's on it its not to much xtra weight I believe, thoughts anyone... :scratch: :salut:
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Not in my opinion. Larger boats, with the inherant fiberglass weight in the mid sections and forward sections of the boat, are must less effected and smaller boats, like a 19-6, 22-2, or 200. The 250 has a lot of glass throughout her, she's a pretty "big" boat for a 25 footer. Sure, she'll be a bit lower at the stern with the bracket and the 200s, but not enough to worry. The percentage of increased weight aft versus the entire boat's weight is not that great, when in comparison to a pair of 140s mounted directly to the transom.
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Thanks seabob, I will move forward with my plan, she should move along just fine, I wonder if I can get her to plane on 1 eng. that would be great :salut:
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Tilt the other 200 up......not only will the single get on plane propped correctly, but you'll be pleasantly surprised at how she "limps" home :wink:
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Gran, thanks again, I got a great deal on a brand new flo scan twin scan (never used) today, $200 I will need this with only 120 gal of gas, I will have to keep an eye on the burn rate.. :salut:
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Gents, I will tell you trying to find a good used transom bracket at a decent price is proving to be a massive challenge, here's a question, I know how to find the transom angle on a boat, pretty easy, so I found a bracket but the guy doesn't know what kind of boat it came off of, so I figured you could just reverse how you measure a transom to measure the bracket angle that sounds right doesn't it??? looking for guidance... :scratch: :salut:
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(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data//500/IMG_0671.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=9822&title=img-0671&cat=500)
1.Using the face that bolts to the transom (right side/studs visible) measure the length of the face. (hyp)
2.Flip it over and drop a perpendicular (plumb bob/ sinker on fishing line/framing square) and measure the distance between the "bottom" and the line.( opp)
Divide #2 (opp) by #1 (hyp) and you have the sine of the angle. Use a calculator with trig functions/book with same/Google) and you'll get the bracket angle.
Yes, same way as the transom calcs.
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Well I'm not a "Prop Guru" even in my sleep but.....
Since Navy asked about a 4 blade.....
http://www.turbo-props.com/products/tur ... series_toi (http://www.turbo-props.com/products/turbo-offshore-i-series_toi)
Just have to navigate the site.[/quote]
Getting back quickly to the previous prop discussion:
Lew PM'd....then I called Dale (link above) several times since last week and reached an answering machine. Left three messages, no returned calls. Inquiry involved business independent of this thread.
Not sure he is still in the biz.
Dale, looking forward to your renewed presence here.
Thanks....back to brackets.
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I know Dale and will give him a call to see what's up
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I spoke with Dale he will be coming up on the board later today, if you want PM me for his phone number to his business.
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I spoke with Dale he will be coming up on the board later today
Great.
He hasn't visited since December of last year hence no response to a PM but.........
Now you get an e-mail when a member PMs another member. 8)
Scott, did you happen to identify yourself when you left the voice mails?
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I spoke with Dale he will be coming up on the board later today
Great.
He hasn't visited since December of last year hence no response to a PM but.........
Now you get an e-mail when a member PMs another member. 8)
Scott, did you happen to identify yourself when you left the voice mails?
A. Scott Rhodes, Jeweler to the Stars...
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:lol: :lol:
CB, left my name and #, but did not reference CAS.
A moot point now on needing a return call....ordered a pair of Power Tech props from another source.
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I spoke with Dale he will be coming up on the board later today
Great.
He hasn't visited since December of last year hence no response to a PM but.........
Now you get an e-mail when a member PMs another member. 8)
Scott, did you happen to identify yourself when you left the voice mails?
A. Scott Rhodes, Jeweler to the Stars...
Well that pretty much explains it. :mrgreen:
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ordered a pair of Power Tech props from another source.
Oh well, snooze ya lose, still.....
Hope he comes on and can offer Nav some insight.
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I tried :oops:
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DHadley normally checks in too but I think he checks the Props forum.
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Well,
the 250CCP restore is moving along, hull primed, transom being installed, bracket being made, now I leave from Okinawa to Italy in a few hours. 3.5 more months to go and I will be home to do my part on the boat!!!!!
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8) Stay safe with that Typhoon heading your way (unless that is why you're heading to Italy).
Have they been updating you with pics? If so we'd like to see them too.
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Gentleman,
Happy Veterans Day to all, I still have the watch here in Italy, 85 more days to go, and I will be home, hopefully this will be my last deployment. I have missed 10 Christmases that I can remember and dozens of other holidays, birthdays, anniversaries etc, in my almost 30 years of service, If I had to do it all again, I would..
You guys grill up some burgers and Drink a cold one for me.
Is there anyway that we can make the picture posting of our boats and progress on our re-builds any easier? I guess I will need a masters degree to figure it out one of these days.
My 250 CCP is coming along, she is all stripped, transom cut out new full transom being built, all dings, gouges scratches repaired, hull primered should be all done by the time I come home. Will have a new T Top, Bracket, T 200's all re-wired really excited about it..
Ok, you all have a great weekend!!!
Take care,
Navy :salut: :salut:
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Hi Navy - hope you have a good Veterans day too. Thanks for your service. There is a big void of veterans between the Vietnam era and Iraq. Now there are a ton. God bless them all.
Posting pics are not a big deal. You have a gallery on the site, start by uploading the pics to your gallery and the gallery will size them to the right size for posting.
Then it's easy from there - you click on the pic in the gallery and to the right there will be two links, copy the lower one and paste it in your post. Working with two "tabs" in your browser will make this easier.
US Army - 10 years :D
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Rick,
thanks for your service too!! my last 15 month tour in Iraq, I was assigned as the EWO (Electronic Warfare Officer) to a CAV unit out of Texas. I was the guy programming all there IED jamming systems on HMMV's and MRAP's went on many many patrols with them, good guys..
Navy :salut:
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3rd ACR?
I was stationed in El Paso in the Cav (after coming back from Germany for the first couple years) - was a Scout for 5 years and then switched to something with more than 9.5 seconds life expectancy on the battlefield. I switched to Aerial Surveillance Sensor Repair Tech - went through a 48 week training at Ft Huachuca and then found out the enemy bombs airfields first :shock: Geez, now my life expectancy went to zero :?
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2/12 CAV, went to Hauchuca for a electronic school also!!!
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Greetings all!!!! Haven't posted since I was in Italy, The restore is going well, goes to final paint this week!! then phase 2 T top, rewire, slap on the 200's then phase 3 will be my part at the house. Promise to post pics from beginning to end... Glad to be back in good old florida!!!!
Navy :salut:
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Welcome back Chief :salut2:
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Welcome home. :thumright:
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I finally put a few pics up, 1 B4 pic and a few where it stands today, Feedback please!!!
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/20140419_073112.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=12755&title=restore-250-ccp&cat=500)
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/b5.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=12757&title=restore-250-ccp&cat=500)
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/b3.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=12756&title=restore-250-ccp&cat=500)
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/boat_paint2.png) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=12758&title=restore-250-ccp&cat=500)
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Looks good. Seems they're doing a nice job.
I moved all your pics into your member gallery. Go to the gallery and then on member galleries. You will be either be on the first page and at the minimum click on "N" at the top to find your gallery.
Then click on a pic and it will get bigger and to the right you will see some codes - "Linked Image" is the code you want to copy and paste into your post.
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Thanks Rick for squaring aware my inputs, I am looking for feedback on the progress on my 250 CCP its about 75% complete now. expect finish date by end of Sep 2015!!!! Thanks..
Navy :salut:
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Wow, looking great! I like the color too. Is that paint or gelcoat? Any more before pics showing the whole boat, including the transom?
One thing I would do, if it was my boat, is change the plastic thru hull fittings to stainless. That is a pretty small thing, but IMO it really enhances the appearance and makes it look "higher quality". But that is strictly my opinion so please treat it as such. Looking good either way!
BTW, what power did you ever decide on?
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Craig, concur with that, I have already bought them, will install later. Fighting lady Yellow, its Alexseal paint. very durable and hard,,
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All, I uploaded a few pics to my gallery, console, lights some woodwork, its coming along!!
Navy :salut:
Admin Edit: I merged a few of your topics so it's easy to find the info. I also posted the pics you uploaded. Looking good Navy :nSalute:
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/C1.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=13474&title=console&cat=500)
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/UW1.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=13477&title=lighting&cat=500)
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/UW2.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=13479&title=lighting&cat=500)
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/w2.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=13482&title=w2&cat=500)
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/w1.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=13480&title=gunnell-caps&cat=500)