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Title: Tow Vehicles: K&N Intakes
Post by: gran398 on February 14, 2014, 09:08:37 PM
http://www.knfilters.com/air_intake.aspx (http://www.knfilters.com/air_intake.aspx)
Title: Re: Tow Vehicles: K&N Intakes
Post by: seabob4 on February 14, 2014, 10:07:09 PM
Scotty, might want to consider this one...http://store.mvpautoparts.com/volant-15 ... k-suv.html (http://store.mvpautoparts.com/volant-15153-cold-air-intake-system-for-99-06-chevy-gmc-cadillac-truck-suv.html)

K&N kinda started the deal, but there are others out there that have worked on making the concept better.  Look around, my friend, and join one of the Tahoe forums!! :thumright:  :thumright:
Title: Re: Tow Vehicles: K&N Intakes
Post by: icemanbryan on February 14, 2014, 11:22:05 PM
Not sure of the tow vehicle you are speaking of.
If it is a diesel, and turbo on top of that, you need to be very carful of the intake system.
The reusable K&N is a very bad choice,
as are others in that format.
The air intake on a turbo diesel  has a very strong draw.
This will actually suck holes into the air filter.
After that it is straight dirt into the turbo blades, not a good thing.
Title: Re: Tow Vehicles: K&N Intakes
Post by: flounderpounder225 on February 15, 2014, 06:33:04 AM
I have run the k&n in my 2002 gmc 2500 with the 6.0 gas burner almost since I bought the truck used about 6 years ago.  Recently I had to have the knock sensors replaced which on the LS1 engine there are 2 and they are in the valley and the intake plenum has to be removed to replace them.  Anyway, the point is, when everything was apart, the mechanic (a good friend of mine) did a cleaning of everything and found my TPS and IAC were both gummed up with oil residue from the k&n.  He said GM put out a TSB about this, and advised against the use of k&n oiled filters.  I went back with a standard paper fram filter.  BTW, if anyone wants the K&n you can have it for the cost of shipping, I have the whole filter charge kit with it, probably around $70 worth of stuff if you went to autozone or similar.
Title: Re: Tow Vehicles: K&N Intakes
Post by: gran398 on February 15, 2014, 08:06:52 AM
Interesting guys.

Put a K&N element on the Tahoe a few years back, definitely noticed a difference in pickup and gas mileage. But if it contributes to mechanical failure, its coming off.

Will search for that service bulletin :salut:
Title: Re: Tow Vehicles: K&N Intakes
Post by: seabob4 on February 15, 2014, 08:08:07 AM
Marc, Scotty has a Tahoe with the 5.3 I believe.  There are some engines that simply don't benefit from a cold air intake, my Maxima is one of them.  I'e done the research, the HP gains are minimal and occur at such high revs that I would never see them.  Interesting that the oil from the filter guimmed up your IAC and TPS.  For those that may not know, that's Idle Air Control valve and Throttle Position Sensor...both residing in the throttle body.

I did some quick research on the use of the K&N on Scotty's Tahoe, their site stated an 11 HP gain at something like 5300 RPM...somehow I don't think Scotty's going to be seeing those kind of revs anytime soon!
Title: Re: Tow Vehicles: K&N Intakes
Post by: gran398 on February 15, 2014, 08:14:10 AM
We double-posted SB, sorry 'bout that.

This is interesting. Valentines is over, so will have plenty of time to research this at work today.
Title: Re: Tow Vehicles: K&N Intakes
Post by: seabob4 on February 15, 2014, 08:18:23 AM
Scotty, didn't realize you already had one.  Just for your info (something to chew over), the Jeep guys pretty much find them useless, whether it's the 4.0, 4.7, or 5.2.  Unless you can "box" the filter such that it really sees "cold" air, no gains are to be had from installing one...
Title: Re: Tow Vehicles: K&N Intakes
Post by: gran398 on February 15, 2014, 08:28:15 AM
Gotcha, thanks :thumright:

Have the drop-in filter like Marc had, not the intake snorkel shown in the link.

But they're all oiled, so guess the principle is the same.

Did however have an increase in gas mileage right at 1 mpg.

But if that could lead to a hefty repair bill....not cool :thumbdown:
Title: Re: Tow Vehicles: K&N Intakes
Post by: seabob4 on February 15, 2014, 08:48:13 AM
Gotcha Bud.  IAC and TPS service/cleaning is actually pretty easy (I bet the mechanics charge a pretty penny!).  I was having some cold idle issues (motor was hunting, more or less) on the 5.2L in the Jeep.  2 screws to remove the IAC, unplug 1 connector, and had it in my hands.  Cleaned the carbon buildup off the plunger, all was good.  The TPS is basically the same...
Title: Re: Tow Vehicles: K&N Intakes
Post by: wingtime on February 15, 2014, 09:41:11 AM
I have an Airaid intake on my F-250 7.3 diesel.  I also made some minor mods to my intake box to allow more airflow.  The Ford factory air filter is WAY to small for the 7.3.  But you don't have enough room under the hood for the 5 gallon bucket sized filter that International uses on the 7.4 (T444E).  The Airaid replaces the top of the filter box with a set of steel walls that raises the box sides up to the bottom of the hood.  It has a large cone shaped K&N filter that connects to a tube going to the turbo.  The mods dramatically decreased my turbo lag.  As Ice said the amount of suction and air being sucked thru the filter into the turbo is impressive.  In fact when I'm pulling a load say up a steep hill you can hear the air rushing in... It makes a loud hissing wooshing sound that is hard to describe other than it sounds wicked cool!
Title: Re: Tow Vehicles: K&N Intakes
Post by: gman 82 aquasport on February 15, 2014, 09:43:33 AM
Scott, my Tahoe is a little older than yours and I have a 5.7 Vortec, been running a K$N filter for 6 years, no noticable increase in mileage(mine's lifted 3 inches and larger than stock Nitto's on it), but no other issues also...paid for itself a long time ago..just be carefull how mush oil you spray on the filter...Cold air system only truely beneficial if you can seal it up to against underhood temps. :thumright:

97 Tahoe 302k miles on it, new reman engine and trans(4le60 built for towing) both redone at 291K..
Title: Re: Tow Vehicles: K&N Intakes
Post by: gran398 on February 15, 2014, 11:28:52 AM
Thanks guys!

Gary, that's the idea. The truck isn't worth much, and to replace it....you're looking big bucks. So keeping it and doing some upgrades.

Found a guy who bought a 2012 Z-71 for his kid......but the kid had to have 22 inch rims to keep up with his high school buddies. So the guy sold me four new Z-71 aluminum rims (18's) and the factory Bridgestone Duelers for....a hundred bucks each! :thumright:  

Made the headlight upgrade you guys recommended, big difference. Replaced the rear coils with heavy duty...now the ars end is jacked up a little 'till you hook up the boat....it sagged before. And put on a Magnaflow muffler. It's pretty quiet till you bang it down a bit....scratches the redneck itch :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Tow Vehicles: K&N Intakes
Post by: seabob4 on February 15, 2014, 12:13:14 PM
Scotty, have you considering chipping the motor?  A lot of people think chips are just for power, but they can really help the fuel economy as well...
Title: Re: Tow Vehicles: K&N Intakes
Post by: gran398 on February 15, 2014, 12:33:38 PM
Yep, asked a mechanic about it yesterday. He said the effective ones were 4 to 500 dollars, and in his opinion you could get similar results running 93 octane.

See they're out there at all different prices....any of you guys run them?
Title: Re: Tow Vehicles: K&N Intakes
Post by: seabob4 on February 15, 2014, 12:47:34 PM
My opinion Scott, just treat the motor right.  Regular oil changes, good, PROPER plugs for the 5.3 (some motors like some plugs better than others), good plug wires, the "normal" chit.  Oil cooler and tranny cooler for towing, a GOOD cooling system clean out, basically make the motor feel like she is new again by providing her with what she needs.  Today's motors (and yours is considered a "today" motor) can run for several hundred thousand miles given that she is cared for.

Not sure that I believe your mechanic in that the same results of chipping can be obtained by running 93.  If that were the case, there would be no chips out there.  JMHO...
Title: Re: Tow Vehicles: K&N Intakes
Post by: seabob4 on February 15, 2014, 12:48:59 PM
Oh, and BTW.  Since this is your thread, I can de-rail.  Tell your Wolfpack to put a hurtin' on Syracuse today, huh?? :thumright:  :thumright:  :thumright:
Title: Re: Tow Vehicles: K&N Intakes
Post by: gran398 on February 15, 2014, 01:09:00 PM
I would like nothing better than to see the Wolfpack pull the upset. They are actually capable of it. If Warren gets hot, no one in the country can stop him.

On the other hand, and what we're famous for.....when the going gets tough, we fold like a K-Mart lawn chair! :mrgreen:

Re the Tahoe, she's been maintained. Oil change every 3,000, plug wires at 80,000, plugs, etc. Changed the rear differential fluid before the haul to your place. Been a great truck, no issues, no problems. 166K happy miles so far.
Title: Re: Tow Vehicles: K&N Intakes
Post by: seabob4 on February 15, 2014, 01:11:25 PM
Quote from: "gran398"
I would like nothing better than to see the Wolfpack pull the upset. They are actually capable of it. If Warren gets hot, no one in the country can stop him.

On the other hand, and what we're famous for.....when the going gets tough, we fold like a K-Mart lawn chair! :mrgreen:

Re the Tahoe, she's been maintained. Oil change every 3,000, plug wires at 80,000, plugs, etc. Changed the rear differential fluid before the haul to your place. Been a great truck, no issues, no problems. 166K happy miles so far.

Well there ya go, sounds like you are doing the right things!!! :salut:  :salut:
Title: Re: Tow Vehicles: K&N Intakes
Post by: gran398 on February 15, 2014, 01:55:50 PM
Bob, the Wolfpack couldn't get out of Raleigh...game time now 7 PM....ck it out :thumright:
Title: Re: Tow Vehicles: K&N Intakes
Post by: seabob4 on February 15, 2014, 02:26:56 PM
Quote from: "gran398"
Bob, the Wolfpack couldn't get out of Raleigh...game time now 7 PM....ck it out :thumright:

Yeah Scotty, tonight we have that game, the pitiful Illini host the Buckeyes, and at 9...Gators in Rupp arena!!!
Title: Re: Tow Vehicles: K&N Intakes
Post by: Circle Hooked on February 15, 2014, 02:40:03 PM
I have had a K&N filter in my truck for almost it's whole life,13 years and never a problem, the key is when you service it don't over oil and let it dry before you put it back in, I serviced mine in Dec and because I forgot, it sat in the garage for two weeks before I put it back in and I did notice my mileage suffer, that's what reminded me to put it back in.
Title: Re: Tow Vehicles: K&N Intakes
Post by: fitz73222 on February 15, 2014, 03:36:39 PM
Yep, K&N on my ''02 GMC since new and that filter came from '99 Silverado when it was new! So they do last! No problems ever. Scott, save the money on a cold air intake at 166,000 miles. You wouldn't know the difference. Get the engine decoked and injectors cleaned. It's full of carbon. That's what is eating up HP. Your truck ran fine, just needs Maintenance. Oil changes by themselves aren't maintenance. You're probably still running original plugs. Plug wires @ 80K, wrong Tahoe, you have coil over plug on a 5.3 like outboard ignition. The wires are about 6" long. I've never seen them go bad. 5.7's are a different story.
Title: Re: Tow Vehicles: K&N Intakes
Post by: seabob4 on February 15, 2014, 03:40:53 PM
Which kind of goes along the line I was getting at before in regards to chips...if this stuff didn't work, people wouldn't buy it.  With the availability of GOOD info on the internet, if something is junk, it will soon be found out.

After I had the Maxima (5-speed) for some time, I decided it was time to change the gearbox oil.  Did my research...Amsoil, Royal Purple, Redline, etc.  Settled on Royal Purple 75W-90 full synth.  Yeah, pricey ($15/qt), but let me tell you, that gearbox shifts like butter!  Even had some guy on the Maxima forum tell me that GL-5 spec oil was no good for Maxima synchos...geez, I guess my car doesn't know that!  50K miles on the oil and she shifts awesome...

I might try a K & N drop in air filter, but from the research I've done, the CAI is of EXTREMELY little benefit to my Max...
Title: Re: Tow Vehicles: K&N Intakes
Post by: seabob4 on February 15, 2014, 03:42:23 PM
Farley, was kinda wondering if Scotty's 5.3 had coil-overs...thank God my vehicles don't!!  Single coil, single dizzy with normal wires...
Title: Re: Tow Vehicles: K&N Intakes
Post by: gman 82 aquasport on February 15, 2014, 04:50:22 PM
There are guys up this way(lots of Nascar guys) 8)  who can custom program your computor controls for the engine...adjust shift points, convertor lock-up points, timimg etc...program for mileage or for power :thumright: I have seen some kits advertised that will let you adjust some of these on your own to fit the type driving your doing at the time..cruising down the interstate vrs towing..
Title: Re: Tow Vehicles: K&N Intakes
Post by: gran398 on February 15, 2014, 05:05:58 PM
Quote from: "fitz73222"
Yep, K&N on my ''02 GMC since new and that filter came from '99 Silverado when it was new! So they do last! No problems ever. Scott, save the money on a cold air intake at 166,000 miles. You wouldn't know the difference. Get the engine decoked and injectors cleaned. It's full of carbon. That's what is eating up HP. Your truck ran fine, just needs Maintenance. Oil changes by themselves aren't maintenance. You're probably still running original plugs. Plug wires @ 80K, wrong Tahoe, you have coil over plug on a 5.3 like outboard ignition. The wires are about 6" long. I've never seen them go bad. 5.7's are a different story.


Thanks Farl. I think to be honest I got this one mixed up with the other one, the '95. I paid to have plug wires replaced at 80K.

So on this one...get it decoked and injectors cleaned....is this all the same process? I remember looking into it a good while back, but forgot what they said.

The plugs....what should the replacement interval be?

Thanks :thumright:
Title: Re: Tow Vehicles: K&N Intakes
Post by: gran398 on February 15, 2014, 05:09:59 PM
Quote from: "gman 82 aquasport"
There are guys up this way(lots of Nascar guys) 8)  who can custom program your computor controls for the engine...adjust shift points, convertor lock-up points, timimg etc...program for mileage or for power :thumright: I have seen some kits advertised that will let you adjust some of these on your own to fit the type driving your doing at the time..cruising down the interstate vrs towing..

Thanks Garry,

Saw those kits too, seems like you worked them off an I Pad, etc.?

Kinda shy about buying stuff like this...a bit out of my realm of familiarity :shock:  :wink:
Title: Re: Tow Vehicles: K&N Intakes
Post by: ceejkay on February 15, 2014, 05:20:31 PM
scott look into a blackbear tune. its in the neighborhood of 250$ but for 500$ you can have them do a ride along. they will see how you drive and make a custom tune on how "you" drive. ive had a k&n drop in on my truck since i bought it. i clean mine about every month and lightly oil it. i drive on the beach a lot so it gets dirty easy. i put a cherry bomb muffler on my 5.7, its basically a flowmaster 10 series. its loud enough for me but quiet enough that i cant really hear it when im cruising. also look at tahoeyukonforum for other little tips and tricks. i go by the same username over there as here.. good luck
Title: Re: Tow Vehicles: K&N Intakes
Post by: seabob4 on February 15, 2014, 05:26:31 PM
So anybody up for Scotty doing the Seafoam treatment on his 5.3?
Title: Re: Tow Vehicles: K&N Intakes
Post by: gman 82 aquasport on February 15, 2014, 05:53:33 PM
Quote from: "seabob4"
So anybody up for Scotty doing the Seafoam treatment on his 5.3?
Exactly how would you go about that with an  in-tank fuel pump vehicle?..
Title: Re: Tow Vehicles: K&N Intakes
Post by: seabob4 on February 15, 2014, 06:02:24 PM
Garry, guys do it on the Jeep forum, so apparently, it can be done...
Title: Re: Tow Vehicles: K&N Intakes
Post by: icemanbryan on February 15, 2014, 06:39:32 PM
Quote from: "fitz73222"
Yep, K&N on my ''02 GMC since new and that filter came from '99 Silverado when it was new! So they do last! No problems ever. Scott, save the money on a cold air intake at 166,000 miles. You wouldn't know the difference. Get the engine decoked and injectors cleaned. It's full of carbon. That's what is eating up HP. Your truck ran fine, just needs Maintenance. Oil changes by themselves aren't maintenance. You're probably still running original plugs. Plug wires @ 80K, wrong Tahoe, you have coil over plug on a 5.3 like outboard ignition. The wires are about 6" long. I've never seen them go bad. 5.7's are a different story.
Quote from: "Circle Hooked"
I have had a K&N filter in my truck for almost it's whole life,13 years and never a problem, the key is when you service it don't over oil and let it dry before you put it back in, I serviced mine in Dec and because I forgot, it sat in the garage for two weeks before I put it back in and I did notice my mileage suffer, that's what reminded me to put it back in.

Do you guys have diesels?
Title: Re: Tow Vehicles: K&N Intakes
Post by: gran398 on February 15, 2014, 06:43:13 PM
Bry, they're running gas engines :thumright:

Re. the seafoam....you can hook it to a vacuum line, right?
Title: Re: Tow Vehicles: K&N Intakes
Post by: seabob4 on February 15, 2014, 06:49:43 PM
Read this...http://ls1tech.com/forums/general-maint ... r-car.html (http://ls1tech.com/forums/general-maintenance-repairs/534376-how-seafoam-your-car.html)
Title: Re: Tow Vehicles: K&N Intakes
Post by: icemanbryan on February 15, 2014, 07:16:40 PM
Quote from: "gran398"
Bry, they're running gas engines :thumright:

Re. the seafoam....you can hook it to a vacuum line, right?

Gas engines to not create the suction a turbo diesel does.
Most gas engines are fine with a K&N Filter.
Seafoam is an awesome product.
I believe you can go to their site and they will explain the best way to use it.
I believe a brake booster vacuum line is best but don't know for sure.

Some years ago, I had a 17 Whaler with a 100hp outboard.
She ran like crap.
I pulled her out of the water and took to a shop.
They said the motor was shot and needed a rebuild.
I would rather buy new and took the boat.
I had a friend that sold OMC and called him.
He said to bring it to him and he would install a new motor.
A few days later he called and said the boat was ready to pick up.
When I got there it had the same 100hp?
He did a sea foam treatment on her and she ran like a top.
I used that boat till I bought a different boat like 4 years later.
Never had an issue  after that.
I am a fan of Seafoam for sure.
Title: Re: Tow Vehicles: K&N Intakes
Post by: seabob4 on February 15, 2014, 07:28:05 PM
Another de-rail here...

Scotty, 10:15 to go in the first, Wolfpack up on 'Cuse, 15-14...

So you can say they led in this game!!

Back to our regularly scheduled programming...
Title: Re: Tow Vehicles: K&N Intakes
Post by: gman 82 aquasport on February 15, 2014, 07:42:13 PM
Thanks for the link seabob,I never thought about using the brake vacumn line as a way to get the seafoam in the engine..I do run the stuff in a tank of gas about every 2 months which is about 4500 miles for me...
Title: Re: Tow Vehicles: K&N Intakes
Post by: ceejkay on February 15, 2014, 08:11:31 PM
you cant do the seafoam treatment on earler vortec motor just in case someone has an old 5.7 like me. there is a special way to do it and its on seafoams website
Title: Re: Tow Vehicles: K&N Intakes
Post by: gran398 on February 15, 2014, 08:13:03 PM
Bob, IMO, the Wolfpack is playing a damn strong game so far. They have the talent...they lack confidence and finishing ability.

They're giving the Orange all they want right now.

Hope they don't fold like that lawn chair we mentioned earlier.
Title: Re: Tow Vehicles: K&N Intakes
Post by: seabob4 on February 15, 2014, 09:06:25 PM
Quote from: "gran398"
Bob, IMO, the Wolfpack is playing a damn strong game so far. They have the talent...they lack confidence and finishing ability.

They're giving the Orange all they want right now.

Hope they don't fold like that lawn chair we mentioned earlier.

K-Mart blue light special... :wink:
Title: Re: Tow Vehicles: K&N Intakes
Post by: gran398 on February 15, 2014, 09:12:01 PM
Quote from: "seabob4"
Quote from: "gran398"
Bob, IMO, the Wolfpack is playing a damn strong game so far. They have the talent...they lack confidence and finishing ability.

They're giving the Orange all they want right now.

Hope they don't fold like that lawn chair we mentioned earlier.

K-Mart blue light special... :wink:

We had them by the kahunies. That last bad pass in the corner by our hotdog freshman doomed us.

That sucks. A win there would have been our free pass  to the Big Dance.

They ain't that good. Duke's gonna kick their azz in Cameron.
Title: Re: Tow Vehicles: K&N Intakes
Post by: gran398 on February 15, 2014, 11:21:32 PM
Friends, the Wolfpack had a one point lead with possession. A single out of bounds play to close it out.  6.7 seconds left...just get it in play, game over. At Syracuse on their home floor, the number one team in the country:

SYRACUSE, N.Y. -- Rakeem Christmas had a key steal to set up C.J. Fair's winning layup with 6.7 seconds left, helping No. 1 Syracuse edge North Carolina State 56-55 on Saturday night to remain unbeaten.

Christmas had 14 points, 12 rebounds and seven blocks as Syracuse earned its 10th single-digit win despite shooting 35.2 percent. Jerami Grant had 12 points and 14 rebounds and Fair scored 11 points on 5-of-16 shooting.

The start of the game was pushed back four hours because of a snowstorm that wreaked havoc along the eastern seaboard. N.C. State did not land in Syracuse until Saturday afternoon. The team's Twitter account announced the Wolfpack's arrival at 3:07 p.m., seven minutes later than the original scheduled tip-off.

It turns out it was worth the wait, with a tight game leading to a frantic finish full of missed opportunities.

Ralston Turner missed a 3 for N.C. State with 2:45 left, and then Fair was off on a hook driving across the lane. After N.C. State's Anthony Barber hit the side of the backboard with a baseline jumper, Grant missed a spinning drive in the lane for Syracuse.

Tyler Ennis then fouled Turner while shooting a 3, and he made three free throws to give the Wolfpack a 55-53 lead with 62 seconds left.

Fair sank 1 of 2 foul shots with 41.4 seconds remaining and N.C. State's Desmond Lee then lost the ball out of bounds when he was double-teamed at midcourt.

Ennis negated that turnover with a charge, but the Wolfpack couldn't close it out. After a timeout with 18.3 seconds to go, Christmas stole the ball and Fair put the Orange in front when N.C. State was whistled for goaltending on his layup attempt.

T.J. Warren missed from the top of the key on one last try for N.C. State.
Title: Re: Tow Vehicles: K&N Intakes
Post by: Circle Hooked on February 16, 2014, 12:32:05 AM
Gentlemen these de rails are not to be tolerated in said forum, it's for informational purposes on trailers and tow vehicles ONLY, not sports, move it along please.
Title: Re: Tow Vehicles: K&N Intakes
Post by: gman 82 aquasport on February 16, 2014, 10:23:15 AM
But it's hard to get the heart pumping and all excited about a truck(well in most cases) :lol:
Title: Re: Tow Vehicles: K&N Intakes
Post by: seabob4 on February 16, 2014, 10:27:17 AM
Quote from: "Circle Hooked"
Gentlemen these de rails are not to be tolerated in said forum, it's for informational purposes on trailers and tow vehicles ONLY, not sports, move it along please.


LOL!!!!!!
Title: Re: Tow Vehicles: K&N Intakes
Post by: gran398 on February 16, 2014, 11:47:55 AM
:thumleft:  :thumleft:

Scott, that was funny bro :flower: Guess you CAN derail your own thread :lol:

SB, that link to the Seafoam cleansing process is great. Given the detailed instructions, that is something that even I could do.

Thanks! :salut:  :salut:
Title: Re: Tow Vehicles: K&N Intakes
Post by: seabob4 on February 16, 2014, 11:51:59 AM
Seafoam has it's detractors, Scotty...I suppose like just about anything.  But many people have used it from tiny little weed whacker motors up to big old V-8s...and have been happy with the results.

Like I said earlier, if this stuff didn't work, trust me it wouldn't be selling.  BTW, I even have a bottle of Marvel Mystery Oil in the shop.  If that doesn't sound like something a snake oil salesman would try to pitch, I don't know what does!! :thumright:
Title: Re: Tow Vehicles: K&N Intakes
Post by: gran398 on February 16, 2014, 11:57:25 AM
I used to use that Marvel on my old K 5 Blazer. Knocked the knock right outta it :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Tow Vehicles: K&N Intakes
Post by: seabob4 on February 16, 2014, 02:58:49 PM
Quote from: "gran398"
I used to use that Marvel on my old K 5 Blazer. Knocked the knock right outta it :mrgreen:

I had a K5, '78, 350.  Excellent truck, but traded it on (Scott and Aaron will love this) an F-150...
Title: Re: Tow Vehicles: K&N Intakes
Post by: icemanbryan on February 16, 2014, 06:02:04 PM
Quote from: "seabob4"
Seafoam has it's detractors, Scotty...I suppose like just about anything.  But many people have used it from tiny little weed whacker motors up to big old V-8s...and have been happy with the results.

Like I said earlier, if this stuff didn't work, trust me it wouldn't be selling.  BTW, I even have a bottle of Marvel Mystery Oil in the shop.  If that doesn't sound like something a snake oil salesman would try to pitch, I don't know what does!! :thumright:
I use that Marvel Mystery Oil all the time, it works great.
Title: Re: Tow Vehicles: K&N Intakes
Post by: Aswaff400 on February 16, 2014, 06:52:54 PM
im running a stock airbox/filter on my f250 6.0L... most of the guys on the powerstroke forums agree that the stock airbox and filter for the 6.0L has more than enough flow to support up to 450-500 hp, they say at that point is when you'd need to switch to a better intake... so i will continue to run the stock filter as my turbo stays nice and clean and i dont plan on pushing the truck much past 400 hp once i get the head studs and head gaskets done... im also happy with my mileage, ive been getting 12-13 mpg city with a lead foot, and 19-21 mpg highway at 70-75 mph...
Title: Re: Tow Vehicles: K&N Intakes
Post by: icemanbryan on February 16, 2014, 07:01:16 PM
Quote from: "Aswaff400"
im running a stock airbox/filter on my f250 6.0L... most of the guys on the powerstroke forums agree that the stock airbox and filter for the 6.0L has more than enough flow to support up to 450-500 hp, they say at that point is when you'd need to switch to a better intake... so i will continue to run the stock filter as my turbo stays nice and clean and i dont plan on pushing the truck much past 400 hp once i get the head studs and head gaskets done... im also happy with my mileage, ive been getting 12-13 mpg city with a lead foot, and 19-21 mpg highway at 70-75 mph...
Aaron, I have the 7.3 turbo.
I use the Ford AIS system, seems to work really well.
The Ford air boxes work well.
I have quite a few Banks upgrades, mine runs great.
Almost at 100K.
Title: Re: Tow Vehicles: K&N Intakes
Post by: Aswaff400 on February 16, 2014, 07:28:40 PM
ive got 143,300 on my 6.0, it was a one owner from Arkansas and as far as i and my mechanic could tell, original head gaskets, and injectors. i do know the turbo was replaced. when i took it to my mechanic for a new oil cooler, egr delete, and a few other odds and ends, he said the motor was spotless inside and out... ive been thinking about getting the diesel site "wicked wheel 2" for my 6.0. they say it has a noticeable gain on the low end and mid range power, less lag, more boost, less drive preasure, lower egt's... and its only 230 bucks, cant hurt to try it... otherwise ive been thinking about getting the sinister diesel hot and cold side intercooler pipes and intake elbow just for a little bit of bling...

ww2
http://www.dieselsite.com/dieselsitewic ... rbo-2.aspx (http://www.dieselsite.com/dieselsitewickedwheelforthe2003-200760lgt37turbo-2.aspx)
sinister pipes
http://www.mkmcustoms.com/sinisterdiese ... dium=email (http://www.mkmcustoms.com/sinisterdieselford60lpowerstrokeintercoolerchargepipekit.aspx?utm_source=February+2014+Newsletter&utm_campaign=Feb14+Newsletter&utm_medium=email)
elbow
http://www.mkmcustoms.com/sinisterdiese ... elbow.aspx (http://www.mkmcustoms.com/sinisterdiesel60intakeelbow.aspx)
Title: Re: Tow Vehicles: K&N Intakes
Post by: wingtime on February 16, 2014, 10:28:49 PM
Quote from: "seabob4"
I had a K5, '78, 350.  Excellent truck, but traded it on (Scott and Aaron will love this) an F-150...
Made the move up Bob!

BTW 176K on my 7.3 Powerstroke.
Title: Re: Tow Vehicles: K&N Intakes
Post by: icemanbryan on February 17, 2014, 11:32:29 AM
Quote from: "Aswaff400"
ive got 143,300 on my 6.0, it was a one owner from Arkansas and as far as i and my mechanic could tell, original head gaskets, and injectors. i do know the turbo was replaced. when i took it to my mechanic for a new oil cooler, egr delete, and a few other odds and ends, he said the motor was spotless inside and out... ive been thinking about getting the diesel site "wicked wheel 2" for my 6.0. they say it has a noticeable gain on the low end and mid range power, less lag, more boost, less drive preasure, lower egt's... and its only 230 bucks, cant hurt to try it... otherwise ive been thinking about getting the sinister diesel hot and cold side intercooler pipes and intake elbow just for a little bit of bling...

ww2
http://www.dieselsite.com/dieselsitewic ... rbo-2.aspx (http://www.dieselsite.com/dieselsitewickedwheelforthe2003-200760lgt37turbo-2.aspx)
sinister pipes
http://www.mkmcustoms.com/sinisterdiese ... dium=email (http://www.mkmcustoms.com/sinisterdieselford60lpowerstrokeintercoolerchargepipekit.aspx?utm_source=February+2014+Newsletter&utm_campaign=Feb14+Newsletter&utm_medium=email)
elbow
http://www.mkmcustoms.com/sinisterdiese ... elbow.aspx (http://www.mkmcustoms.com/sinisterdiesel60intakeelbow.aspx)


Aaron, just a suggestion.
Go online and find Diesel O Rings in Colorado.
Bob is the owner and has forgotten more than most guys know.
His truly is the guru of diesels and sells some items.
The blade you are speaking of is not a performance blade, just makes more noise.
He has others and really is the go to guy.
Check him out, he is the real deal.


EDIT, I might be incorrect, he may just do the 7.3's
B
Title: Re: Tow Vehicles: K&N Intakes
Post by: Aswaff400 on February 18, 2014, 07:04:03 AM
i know the wicked wheel for the 7.3 doesnt make much of a difference, but on the smaller displacement 6.0 guys are posting on powerstroke.org, it made a noticeable difference. dieselsite installed one on a 6.0 with a stock turbo and stage one injectors( im guessing 155cc?) http://www.powerstroke.org/forum/6-0l-p ... rbo-4.html (http://www.powerstroke.org/forum/6-0l-performance-parts-discussion/364370-wicked-wheel-oem-6-0-turbo-4.html)
Title: Re: Tow Vehicles: K&N Intakes
Post by: icemanbryan on February 18, 2014, 11:07:30 AM
Quote from: "Aswaff400"
i know the wicked wheel for the 7.3 doesnt make much of a difference, but on the smaller displacement 6.0 guys are posting on powerstroke.org, it made a noticeable difference. dieselsite installed one on a 6.0 with a stock turbo and stage one injectors( im guessing 155cc?)http://www.powerstroke.org/forum/6-0l-performance-parts-discussion/364370-wicked-wheel-oem-6-0-turbo-4.html
Aaron, I really hope that is the case.
For a turbine to work better, it needs more air flow.
The air box and the air intake are a factor.
The exhaust back flow comes in play as well as the waste gate.
I spent quite a bit of time figuring out what to do when I did my truck.
The OP for the upgrade might have had some other mods as well.
Again, I hope it works for you.
Title: Re: Tow Vehicles: K&N Intakes
Post by: flounderpounder225 on February 18, 2014, 12:16:32 PM
Quote from: "seabob4"
Marc, Scotty has a Tahoe with the 5.3 I believe.  There are some engines that simply don't benefit from a cold air intake, my Maxima is one of them.  I'e done the research, the HP gains are minimal and occur at such high revs that I would never see them.  Interesting that the oil from the filter guimmed up your IAC and TPS.  For those that may not know, that's Idle Air Control valve and Throttle Position Sensor...both residing in the throttle body.

I did some quick research on the use of the K&N on Scotty's Tahoe, their site stated an 11 HP gain at something like 5300 RPM...somehow I don't think Scotty's going to be seeing those kind of revs anytime soon!

Exactly what my mechanic stated, air flow increases on a chart jump up only at the higher REVS, thats why I pulled it out.. not needed in my opinion..
Title: Re: Tow Vehicles: K&N Intakes
Post by: wingtime on February 18, 2014, 12:39:38 PM
Hmmmm  I may have to consider a Wicked Wheel 2 for my 7.3.
Title: Re: Tow Vehicles: K&N Intakes
Post by: gran398 on March 09, 2014, 07:32:14 PM
Treated the engine today with seafoam, cleaned the throttle body, new iridium plugs. Can't believe its the same truck. The difference...it's like the engine is brand-new. I'm freaked out.

My neighbor did the work, he's a Camaro guy. Cleaned some type of sensor too :thumright:
Title: Re: Tow Vehicles: K&N Intakes
Post by: gran398 on March 10, 2014, 10:15:43 PM
(http://blu.stb.s-msn.com/i/32/ed34bad55a457b0658c6a2a134130/_h512_w909_m6_ofalse_lfalse.jpg)
Title: Re: Tow Vehicles: K&N Intakes
Post by: gran398 on March 10, 2014, 10:20:03 PM
OT: New Maserati Coupe, Geneva auto show this week.
Title: Re: Tow Vehicles: K&N Intakes
Post by: seabob4 on March 10, 2014, 10:30:26 PM
The familiar Maserati Trident on the grill...

Almost bought a Biturbo back in the 80s... :shock:
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