Classic AquaSport
Aquasport Mechanicals - things that need a wrench, screwdriver or multimeter => Engines & engine woes => Topic started by: icemanbryan on December 01, 2013, 11:49:35 AM
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Well, I have some questions.
1) Should we disconnect the oil injection system and run 50 to 1?
2) Where can I purchase the motor lifting tool for the flywheel?
3) Where can I purchase a transom template?
4) I will be happy to donate the above two items once done.
5) I ordered a couple of books on rigging and one on Evenrude installations.
6) Bob, if you could, some pointers to do this. Maybe a wiring color chart?
I am a little confused about the rigging tube, should I have 2 on the same side, yeah?
I had one of my workers come by yesterday.
He laid out most of the items, he knew almost every harness and part,
I was very impressed.
He is really into doing this conversion and was ready to get started ASAP.
I might be willing to take a week at Christmas and do this, just not 100% sure yet.
I am a little scared to tackle it.
OK, I think that is all for now.
BTW, if I do this, I would be willing to post up the progress if you guys want.
Thanks Bryan
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Alright, Bryan, here we go...
1) Should we disconnect the oil injection system and run 50 to 1?
Personally, I wouldn't do that on Fichts. The fuel delivery is VERY precise, I would want the "system" to do it's job in relation to that.
2) Where can I purchase the motor lifting tool for the flywheel?
Do you have the flywheel where the lift ring threads into the center, or is it the type with 3 bolts that thread in surrounding the flywheel nut?
3) Where can I purchase a transom template?
The pattern is the ages old BIA pattern, you can see it here under images...https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&gl= ... -Gs_I7w2Ak (https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&gl=us&tbm=&authuser=0&q=BIA+engine+mounting+pattern&oq=BIA+engine+mounting+pattern&gs_l=news-cc.1.1.43j43i53.1284.8134.0.9640.27.2.0.24.0.0.442.728.2-1j0j1.2.0...0.0...1ac.1.o-Gs_I7w2Ak) I would make my own.
6) Bob, if you could, some pointers to do this. Maybe a wiring color chart?
I am a little confused about the rigging tube, should I have 2 on the same side, yeah?
Bryan, are you talking about the rigging tubes going out to the motors? If so, IIRC, both rigging tubes were located to the starboard side of center.
Now, as far as wire colors, no need to worry about that at the engine end, it's all plug and play. 4 Deutsch connectors on the engine harness, a 2-pin Deutsch on the oil tank harness. Under the helm is also very simple, 6-pin going to the key switch, 6-pin going to SystemCheck, 3-pin for TNT, I think that's it as far as connectors. Coming out of the harness you'll also have purple, black, gray, and tan...ign, grnd, tach sender, trim sender.
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Thanks Bob, I appreciate it.
Friends were saying to disconnect the oil system, I didn't know, I would rather leave hooked up.
Looks like the 3 bolts that are around the gland nut? on the flywheel.
For the BIA pattern, make it out of wood?
What size hole would you drill?
As far as the rigging tubes, I only see one, not two.
I will look again, should be the same size diameter, yeah?
Yes, on the wires, mostly plug and play :).
I believe there is also a Blue wire as well? I will look again.
Thanks again,
Bryan
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Bryan, you mean the rigging tube running in the boat up to the helm. Yes, only 1, we didn't add a second for twins.
I always drill 9/16" holes for my engine mounting bolts. Use 1/2" bolts with lock-nuts, be sure to put anti-seize on the threads. Or even a good bit of caulking. Heat generated from tightening the bolts is what usually causes them to lock up.
Do not remember a separate blue wire at all. Fichts use the exact same rigging as "normal" OMCs, nothing different.
Making the template out of wood, even cardboard, is fine. You want it stay in place when you tape it up to the proper location when you mark the holes. You are NOT going to be using it as a drill guide! For that you need a steel plate with 9/16" bushings welded in place...
As far as the lift ring, I would visit my local BRP dealer. Betcha they have a bunch laying around that they would either let you borrow one, or rent one to you cheap. If they don't, they're a$$holes...
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Bryan, you mean the rigging tube running in the boat up to the helm. Yes, only 1, we didn't add a second for twins.
I always drill 9/16" holes for my engine mounting bolts. Use 1/2" bolts with lock-nuts, be sure to put anti-seize on the threads. Or even a good bit of caulking. Heat generated from tightening the bolts is what usually causes them to lock up.
Do not remember a separate blue wire at all. Fichts use the exact same rigging as "normal" OMCs, nothing different.
Making the template out of wood, even cardboard, is fine. You want it stay in place when you tape it up to the proper location when you mark the holes. You are NOT going to be using it as a drill guide! For that you need a steel plate with 9/16" bushings welded in place...
As far as the lift ring, I would visit my local BRP dealer. Betcha they have a bunch laying around that they would either let you borrow one, or rent one to you cheap. If they don't, they're a$$holes...
Oh, yes. They are real a$$holes.
I will check them out though.
So, in pulling the new harness's through, is there method on what to do first?
Throttle cables or, wiring harness, do it all at the same time?
Just have some questions running in my mind.
We may attempt this over the Christmas Holiday time.
We are figuring about a week?
Not sure on the actual time, I wanted to order up whatever I needed or need to replace.
I would rather have too much than not enough in materials and parts needed.
If I buy some tools or parts, you are welcomed to them after the install.
Thanks very much Bob, I appreciate it.
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Ahhh, grasshopper, much to teach... :lol: :lol:
No, J/K Bryan! And in between football, we shall learn. With your old rigging, pull everything out except the cables. Pull from the helm, it's much easier with Yam stuff, as the engine harness only has a single plug at the engine end. Once the harnessing is removed, use 1 cable to pull the starboard engine rigging through, the other cable to pull the port. Once again, pull from the helm. You can pull the harness and cable at the same time, just fold back the various plugs at the engine end so as to make the "bundle" as stream-lined as possible. They'll all pull through fine, but you'll have to remove the pie at the helm to reach in, grab them, and guide them up to the oval cut-out inside the console.
Make sure to mark each harness and each cable as to what is what. Green and red nail polish is excellent for this. With the cables, what I do is 1 red stripe for port shift, 2 red stripes for port throttle. Same on the starboard cables except the stripes are green.
You won't need any special tools, a 3" hole saw for your second rigging port out the transom, that's about it. Oil tanks are gonna be fun for your mechanic...better him than me, he's gonna be in there aways! But all in all, a pretty easy install. You guys should be able to do the install over a week with plenty of time to spare...and enjoy cervesas!! I'll be around... :thumright:
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Ahhh, grasshopper, much to teach... :lol: :lol:
No, J/K Bryan! And in between football, we shall learn. With your old rigging, pull everything out except the cables. Pull from the helm, it's much easier with Yam stuff, as the engine harness only has a single plug at the engine end. Once the harnessing is removed, use 1 cable to pull the starboard engine rigging through, the other cable to pull the port. Once again, pull from the helm. You can pull the harness and cable at the same time, just fold back the various plugs at the engine end so as to make the "bundle" as stream-lined as possible. They'll all pull through fine, but you'll have to remove the pie at the helm to reach in, grab them, and guide them up to the oval cut-out inside the console.
Make sure to mark each harness and each cable as to what is what. Green and red nail polish is excellent for this. With the cables, what I do is 1 red stripe for port shift, 2 red stripes for port throttle. Same on the starboard cables except the stripes are green.
You won't need any special tools, a 3" hole saw for your second rigging port out the transom, that's about it. Oil tanks are gonna be fun for your mechanic...better him than me, he's gonna be in there aways! But all in all, a pretty easy install. You guys should be able to do the install over a week with plenty of time to spare...and enjoy cervesas!! I'll be around... :thumright:
See, I knew you would have it down.
Thanks, I appreciate it.
I guess t his would be the time for the new panel as well, yeah?
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Yep. 2 tachs, 2 voltmeters, 2 WP gauges, and your fuel gauge. That's all you need, unless you really want trim gauges. Might want to design it so you can add in a Floscan Twinscan fuel flow gauge, same size as your tachs...
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Where can I purchase the motor lifting tool for the flywheel?Thanks Bryan
This is what I used to install my 96 200 Evinrude.
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Simple is good, Bob... :thumright:
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Awesome Capt Bob.
I will PU some hardened bolts the right thread size.
Chain is on hand.
If I end up doing the install, we will use a cherry picker.
I figured much easier for the install
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The Fichts have a 5 bolt flywheel and no center hole if I remember correctly. This is the reason we used the straps to lift as I had the OEM BRP 3 bolt lift ring I borrowed from a friend. We could not make it match the bolt pattern.
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I will look again, I thought I saw 3 holes
I could still do the bolts and chain with 5 holes
Bob, I was also thinking maybe time for a new switch panel.
If it is all apart and we are rewiring anyway?
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Yep. 2 tachs, 2 voltmeters, 2 WP gauges, and your fuel gauge. That's all you need, unless you really want trim gauges. Might want to design it so you can add in a Floscan Twinscan fuel flow gauge, same size as your tachs...
I don't see a need for trim?
I will read about the floscan gauge.
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Bryan the Floscan twinscan is a great addition once you have one you wont want to be without it again also if you are doing new tachs get the twin tach that Floscan puts out it ties together with the twin scan and makes a nice setup.
I dont have a picture after I put in the tach but here is the twinscan
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Iceman,
Do yourself a favor and get a Flow Scan. It not only gives you peace of mind knowing fuel reserves but adds another dimension to the operation of your boat. Now you can adjust your engine trim, tabs (if present) and rpm based on fuel burn. Sure, if your desire is to run WOT and have no concern for fuel consumption (or costs) then ram her home Jerome and let the four winds blow but......
If you enjoy piloting your craft and getting a balance between max performance and fuel use, it's the only way to go.
Trust me, next to your tach, the most important performance gauge you can have.
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We CAN spend your money, Bryan... :lol: :lol:
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/JOHNSON-EVINRUD ... 2d&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/JOHNSON-EVINRUDE-OMC-BRP-OUTBOARD-LIFTING-RING-SERVICE-TOOL-/261340895277?pt=Boat_Parts_Accessories_Gear&hash=item3cd921982d&vxp=mtr)
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/JOHNSON-EVINRUDE-OMC-BRP-OUTBOARD-LIFTING-RING-SERVICE-TOOL-/261340895277?pt=Boat_Parts_Accessories_Gear&hash=item3cd921982d&vxp=mtr
This is basically the same thing I had and it will NOT fit a Ficht. These motors have a 5 bolt pattern.
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I agree a Flo-Scan is a must have. it will pay for itself in fuel savings in no time. Already mentioned by SeaBob... keep the oil injection.
Here are a coupld of links for the wire color code:
http://continuouswave.com/whaler/refere ... e.html#OMC (http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/wireColorCode.html#OMC)
http://www.maxrules.com/fixomcwiringcodes.html (http://www.maxrules.com/fixomcwiringcodes.html)
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Bryan, Lewis is correct, the standard OMC lifting ring won't work with the Fichts. Now that I think about it, we did get a new type lift ring way back then ('98) when we got our first Fichts...
Your best bet would be to have some "eyes" welded on to grade 8 bolts, then just use chains and hooks...
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We CAN spend your money, Bryan... :lol: :lol:
Not a problem.
I would rather do it right the first time
I don't like to add in later.
As far as saving fuel, not really a big deal.
I would like the gauge though.
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As far as saving fuel, not really a big deal.
I would like the gauge though.
More than just saving fuel but....
For some, it's the knowledge of the operation.
Fuel reserve was the main thing for me in 96.
Now, it's consumption.
Still, believe it or not, I like the performance end of operating a boat.
No, it's not ocean racing but rather seamanship.
Sounds corny but I equate it to a blow boater and his knowledge of wind, rigging and position. All part of what a Captain is responsible for when at sea.
BS :?:
Well I still like driving my boat. One of the lifelong and last pleasures I still enjoy.
Good luck.
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Thanks for all the opinions and comments.
I am interested in the gauge, I think it is a good idea.
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As far as saving fuel, not really a big deal.
I would like the gauge though.
More than just saving fuel but....
For some, it's the knowledge of the operation.
Fuel reserve was the main thing for me in 96.
Now, it's consumption.
Still, believe it or not, I like the performance end of operating a boat.
No, it's not ocean racing but rather seamanship.
Sounds corny but I equate it to a blow boater and his knowledge of wind, rigging and position. All part of what a Captain is responsible for when at sea.
BS :?:
Well I still like driving my boat. One of the lifelong and last pleasures I still enjoy.
Good luck.
I like driving mine too :thumright:
Flo-scan is nice...but not imperative. If you understand where the sweet spot on cruise is....you can closely predict consumption. Same as you've noted, what a captain is responsible for at sea.
Now, after a season on the new build....not pleased with fuel consumption. Getting drag on the LU's. They're too low by 3/4 inch, and we knew that when rigged.
Dragging a bit and throwing water. Will take a closer look this winter.
On the other hand...they don't blow out in turns.
Setting up twins is finicky. Distance apart, hull deadrise, transom height, engine height....all interact.
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If you have a Garmin or Lowrance unit, you should consider the flowscan units that interface with your electronics package. They are easy to install and remarkably accurare.
Let me know if you want to borrow the lifting ring for your motors. I have one that you can use for a week or so. mGive me a ring if you need.
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Thank you.
I do not like to borrow things, however, I appreciate the offer very much.
I have a Raymarine E120.
I have tagged the website about floscan, I will read it tonight.
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I don't have much experience with Raymarine, but as long as you have a NMEA port on your chartplotter, you should be able to find a compatible digital fuel management device to tag into your fuel line and display on your unit. This is generally much simpler than cutting holes in the dash.
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Looks great.
Looks like I need a matched pair of sensors?
I was having a little trouble finding the correct gauge.
Too many to choose from
Someone help me out?
Thanks Bryan
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Bryan I like this gauge http://www.floscan.com/html/blue/series ... p?sid=15or (http://www.floscan.com/html/blue/seriesdetail.php?sid=15or) this one http://www.floscan.com/html/blue/series ... php?sid=14 (http://www.floscan.com/html/blue/seriesdetail.php?sid=14)
Don't hesitate to call them and ask questions, I did before and after I bought mine, very nice and helpful people.
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Bryan I like this gauge http://www.floscan.com/html/blue/series ... p?sid=15or (http://www.floscan.com/html/blue/seriesdetail.php?sid=15or) this one http://www.floscan.com/html/blue/series ... php?sid=14 (http://www.floscan.com/html/blue/seriesdetail.php?sid=14)
Don't hesitate to call them and ask questions, I did before and after I bought mine, very nice and helpful people.
Thanks Scott, I appreciate the help.
Looks like my outboard guy David will be doing the work for me.
I really do not have the time and it is what he does, really a win win all around.
I will call Floscan Friday, I will post up before I buy to get some help.
I spoke to Prop gods and he recommended a Inertia 17 pitch 3 blade.
I was thinking about 4 blade for a little smoother ride.
Any opinions one way or the other?
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Try what Ken recommends first, then go from there... :thumright:
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Ken was funny.
I asked about the correct props w boat motor combo.
He said 3 blade
I asked him about 4 blades being smoother.
He said not really but, lots of people say their boat is smoother w 4 blades
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i know its been mentioned before somewhere on how to lift a motor from a shipping crate, but heres a pic i took today right from a Yamaha F250 shipping crate, simple and straight forward...
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a148/recklesabandon727/IMG_20131211_144126.jpg) (http://s10.photobucket.com/user/recklesabandon727/media/IMG_20131211_144126.jpg.html)
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Well Aaron, that's all fine and dandy if Bryan was hanging a pair of F250s on his Osprey! :wink: :wink:
J/K, my friend. There are a bunch of ways to lift a bunch of different motors, the real key is just use common sense and great care. Interesting about Yams. The F150 has lift rings on the centerline fore and aft. Trust me (learned this back in 2000), you BETTER leave it attached to the bottom of the crate when you lift it, because of the placement of the rings, that beetch will roll on you in a heartbeat (learned that... :oops: )!! Yet the V6's have rings above each of the cylinder heads, they come straight up easy as pie. You'd figure those smart Yam engineers would've thought about that on the 150... :?
And I love the torque callout on the lift ring...pure CYA right there!!!
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Bryan,
Although Double Trouble's twin flowscan guage looks very nice I would do what was suggested by another. Purchase two NMEA flow sensors and hook them up to your plotter rigging them along with your engines. It will keep you from cutting more holes at the helm plus most modern plotters allow you to display more info than just GPH (MPG, Total fuel burned, remaining fuel, fuel level etc.). You will need a NMEA starter kit (I just got one off Ebay for $60 and two NMEA flow sensors. Based on the research that I have done I know Garmin and Lowrwance make them (NMEA is universal - Brand agnostic) and they run about $140 a piece if you shop around. With two flow sensors you will need one additional NMAA backbone piece besides what comes in the starter kit. Some good vids on Youtube that show how to set up the network. It's very simple. Good luck!
PS - I have a sensor being gifted to me so I will be installing mine here in the coming weeks. Im putting the NMEA network in this weekend in prep for the sensor. Good luck!
B
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Awesome, thanks for the information, I appreciate the information.
I will look into the NMEA options I have with my head unit.
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Bryan -
Here is a pic of my NMEA network. The only thing that is missing is 1 additional t-connector (backbone) piece which will connect to the two there in the same way (vertical). The yellow wire is 12v power to the backbone and the other runs up to the top of my helm to connect into my Garmin unit. All that is left is the install of the flow sensor and running the wire back to an additional backbone piece. Hope this helps.
Bruce
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Bryan, I'm doing a total Garmin package on the Pursuit right now, (2) MFDs, NMEA GPS puck, AP, and (2) Garmin NMEA 2K VHFs. so I have quite a few tees, (2) 2K power drops, a couple termination resistors, and a REALLY long backbone if you need them...
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The Garmin network consists of 8 tees, and of course, 2 termination resistors. Threw everything together temporarily so I could make sure all the units were talking with each other and were happy...
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(2) Garmin 4210 MFDs, (2) Garmin 200 VHFs, the GPS antenna, the AP display, the AP course computer, and the power drop. The radar and sounder module input their data through ethernet cables.
Looks pretty sharp at night...
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And they all talk happily with each other... :thumright:
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The console looks great.
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Do they make 90's so you can bend it around a corner???? :lol: :lol:
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Well sure they do Loye...http://www.starmarinedepot.com/maretron ... 7Aod7h8APg (http://www.starmarinedepot.com/maretron-micro%2Fmid-field-attachable-connector-90-male.html?gclid=CLm9o8OUwLsCFUsV7Aod7h8APg)
Just a little pricey when all this stuff comes with the units... :wink:
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:lol: Just trying to figure out how to get all that under a console in a boat that's not 10' wide :shock: :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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:lol: Just trying to figure out how to get all that under a console in a boat that's not 10' wide :shock: :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Bob is the :king:
He can do it.
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Keep in mind Loye, you can split up the tee configuration anyway you want simply by connecting real short backbones in between the 2 branches...or 3, or 4, whatever. So if, for instance, you only have room horizontaly for 4 tees, but you need 8, you simply connect the first 4 with a backbone to the second 4 located underneath...a term resistor at both ends...you're done. The short backbone simply links the 2 sets of tees together.
NMEA 2000 is SUPER easy compared to the old 0183...
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LOL I know, was just laughing about 8 t's strung out like that. Merc an Yamaha's digital controls are the same. I have installed a few NMEA systems, just nothing that size. Flats and bass boats don't get THAT many different modules usually :wink:
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LOL I know, was just laughing about 8 t's strung out like that. Merc an Yamaha's digital controls are the same. I have installed a few NMEA systems, just nothing that size. Flats and bass boats don't get THAT many different modules usually :wink:
Loye, the former 1/2 owner of Proline had a 35 Express built, triple Etecs, full I-Command gauges upper and lower, (2) 5000 series Garmins downstairs, (1) up top, plus smaller separate LMS-200 gauges for fuel and water pressure. IIRC, 28 tees... :shock:
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Thank God for NMEA!! Can you imagine hard wiring and hiding all that wire :shock: :drunken:
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LOL I know, was just laughing about 8 t's strung out like that. Merc an Yamaha's digital controls are the same. I have installed a few NMEA systems, just nothing that size. Flats and bass boats don't get THAT many different modules usually :wink:
Loye, the former 1/2 owner of Proline had a 35 Express built, triple Etecs, full I-Command gauges upper and lower, (2) 5000 series Garmins downstairs, (1) up top, plus smaller separate LMS-200 gauges for fuel and water pressure. IIRC, 28 tees... :shock:
That electronics package cost more then my boat!! :shock:
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So here's the sad part, sorry part, whatever you want to call it. He never used the boat!! Here's his bio...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Ranieri (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Ranieri)
The boat was completed and sat in the yard for well over a year...never moved from it's location next to the transportation office. We heard he finally sold it, and down the road it went...
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So here's the sad part, sorry part, whatever you want to call it. He never used the boat!! Here's his bio...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Ranieri (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Ranieri)
The boat was completed and sat in the yard for well over a year...never moved from it's location next to the transportation office. We heard he finally sold it, and down the road it went...
That sux. All that work just to go down the road :shock: A friend of mine is a Capt. and his boss bought Madoff's(sp) boat when it went to auction after all that crap.
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Yep Loye, Wall Streeters are not my favorite bunch... :x
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Hi Guys,
David, my rigging guy came by today and removed the Yamaha and took one of the Evinrudes.
He will be back on Tuesday am to pick up the boat and other outboard.
I leave for Maui on the 16th.
This should be finished about the time I arrive back home.
Here is a photo on the removal.
Just keeping everyone posted on the progress.
Thanks Bryan
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Unbelievable that vacu-formed plastic transom trim is still in one piece! We replaced a ton of them back in the 90s. Boats would sit in the yard shrink-wrapped, the trim would crack bad...
Bryan, has he thought about where the splashwell scuppers will fall with the twins in regards to the engine mounting brackets?
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Bob,
We are thinking that they need to be filled and relocated, what you thinking?
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Bryan, IIRC, the outboard side of twins "encroached" over the scuppers just a smidge. Like maybe a 1/4". You'll definitely have to pull those plastic flappers off there. Do they just cover the original copper drain tubes?
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Yes, that is correct.
I can just remove the covers and have the small screw holes filled.
If that is the case, it should be fine then?
Do you know the actual c to c spacing, I believe it is like 29 1/2 or 29 3/4, does that sound about correct?
I am sure David knows, I was just curious.
Thanks B
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SeaBob. I see he has a cut out or a notch in the starboard swim platform that my 245 does not have. Was that for clearance for steering or something? And if so why did they do away with it?
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Yes, that is correct.
I can just remove the covers and have the small screw holes filled.
If that is the case, it should be fine then? Yep, you'll be fine...
Do you know the actual c to c spacing, I believe it is like 29 1/2 or 29 3/4, does that sound about correct? I want to say more in the 28" range.
I am sure David knows, I was just curious.
Thanks B
The key is to have the steering cylinder have clearance when the motors are hardover to port (steering to port), as too far outboard and the cylinder on the starboard motor will hit the swim platform...
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Bruce, I remember the 245s having the molded notch. We didn't need it on the 225s as we used a splashwell mount cylinder. Have no clue why Bryan's Osprey has the notch and your Explorer doesn't. Remember, my life was Osprey world!!
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My notch is for the steering cylinder yeah?
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My notch is for the steering cylinder yeah?
Yep...
Probably a lot of Osprey owners with singles thinking...what the hell is this notch for?
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Unbelievable that vacu-formed plastic transom trim is still in one piece! We replaced a ton of them back in the 90s. Boats would sit in the yard shrink-wrapped, the trim would crack bad...
Bryan, has he thought about where the splashwell scuppers will fall with the twins in regards to the engine mounting brackets?
I am really weird about detail.
I try to take care of things like that.
There are a couple of cracks in the trim.
Does anyone want it?
It will most likely be trashed.
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Unbelievable that vacu-formed plastic transom trim is still in one piece! We replaced a ton of them back in the 90s. Boats would sit in the yard shrink-wrapped, the trim would crack bad...
Bryan, has he thought about where the splashwell scuppers will fall with the twins in regards to the engine mounting brackets?
I am really weird about detail.
I try to take care of things like that.
There are a couple of cracks in the trim.
Does anyone want it?
It will most likely be trashed.
PM Scott or both Bruces. It will fit their Explorers and Bruce's Osprey. Hell, Marc as well! Sorry Marc, forgot about you...
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Boat is emptied and ready to go to the shop.
He comes and picks it up in the am tomorrow.
I leave for a week or so, should be finished once I am back home.
BTW, I purchased the 4 blade props, should run really well.
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Bryan, what's his plan on filling in the transom cap?
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Bob, I believe he is filling in the core, then doing some fiberglass "wrap" to seal it.
Then a stainless cap bent to fit top, inside and outside.
I think the motor will "rest" on the top of the stainless cap.
Do you have an opinion for the fill in?
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Bryan, I'd suggest a material like coosa. Glass layer in between the sheets, pre-drill and screw into the cast transom coring. He'll have (or his glass guy will have) a good day to get the transom ready for the motors, maybe a day and a 1/2. In that time span, you mechanic can have all the rigging run, the new rigging port installed for the second motor, the rigging pulled out through the transom and run through the rigging tubes, so that when it's time to hang and rig the motors...wham bam thank you maam!!!
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I'm reading this thread and I'm thinking "what about the transom cut out? how is he gonna deal with that?" Then of course Bob brings it up! :salut:
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I would not expect anything less from Bob, he is always thinking, unlike me.
We decided to use Penski sp? board instead.
The glass guy has decided to do about what Bob suggested and screw layers in place.
He will then glass in the remainder and touch up the gel coat.
He is also filling in the original single outboard holes and, the scupper trim rings, they use 4 small screws each.
I think they will work better and be a cleaner install and seal the transom cap.
Boat was picked up this morning and is at the glass shop today and tomorrow.
After that it is install time .
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Bryan, he'll need to pre-drill the holes in the pour cast foam...he'll know that once he tries to drive a screw in there without pre-drilling!! Penske board will work just fine...
Boston Whaler used to use (maybe still do) this stuff called "Whaler Board", almost looked like compressed cardboard. Tell you what, you would break off the heads on #10 screws if you didn't pre-drill it!! Tough stuff!!!
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Good, glad to hear.
They found the center for the outboards.
Looks like the steering arm fits right into the notch.
So far so good.
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Good, glad to hear.
They found the center for the outboards.
Looks like the steering arm fits right into the notch.
So far so good.
So what's the DIM?
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No idea Bob.
I will get the exact measurements once they are installed.
They are going to finish up the transom today.
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Took a little detour to Maui.
Celebrating my Dad's 82nd on Monday.
Here are a couple of shots thus far.
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Dinner last night
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You suck Bryan!! And I bet that prime rib is from a Hawaiian version of Kobe beef! And I bet it's 83 degrees there!!
Wanna trade places?
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Man oh man oh man!!!
That is the deal right there :cheers:
That mongo prime rib Jamaican me hongry :salut:
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Scotty, note the appropriate au jus and the horsey sauce...where's the lick-your-lips smiley?
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Scotty, note the appropriate au jus and the horsey sauce...where's the lick-your-lips smiley?
Bob you're right, that bad boy is a thing of beauty. Looks like something Fred Flintstone could sink his teef into :lol:
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Guys,
excellent food for sure.
Slow roasted over a day!
Cut with your fork.
I could barely get dessert down.
(I did though).
Nice day today, tons of Sea Turtles and Humpback Whales.
Really awesome this time of year.
Nice to get out of the cold 70 degree weather in CA :).
Take care , I hope all is well.
B
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It's 36* right here now Bryan...thanks!!
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28 here SB....and next week looks even colder for all of us.
Bry, would stay right there friend :thumright: :thumright:
Thanks for the great pics....beautiful :cheers:
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28 here SB....and next week looks even colder for all of us.
Bry, would stay right there friend :thumright: :thumright:
Thanks for the great pics....beautiful :cheers:
Agreed!! :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
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Scotty, note the appropriate au jus and the horsey sauce...where's the lick-your-lips smiley?
Bob, I was a pig.
I actually wiped clean the horseradish sauce container.
One of the workers had a full container in place without me skipping a beat.
She knows me and my Dad, she said, I almost brought you two to start with.
We go there 3 or 4 times every time I am here.
Gluttony at its finest.
Here is the sunset from the table
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You've earned that view, Bryan... :thumright:
We always have a jar of horseradish in the fridge, strictly for the purpose of roasta beefa, and, should we get lucky enough, prime rib. BTW, perks up a homemade tarter sauce quite well, thank you... :salut: :salut:
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. BTW, perks up a homemade tarter sauce quite well, thank you... :salut: :salut:
Works good in a bloody mary also, except for the last swallow :lol:
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. BTW, perks up a homemade tarter sauce quite well, thank you... :salut: :salut:
Works good in a bloody mary also, except for the last swallow :lol:
Perks you up for another one!! :cheers:
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Hi guys,
back in the West Coast.
A chilly 72 degrees today.
Transom work is all finished and the motors are hung on the back.
I tried to get down in Dana Point for some photos.
Little busy too busy though, just got back.
I have a full work week but will post up next weekend.
Should be a sea trial on Saturday :thumleft:
Thanks B
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Don't know if you know this Bryan, but Scarab racing boats got their start (Larry Smith) in Dana Point, subsequently teaming with Wellcraft for like 30 years or so. His current plant is in your neck of the woods, Costa Mesa...
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Don't know if you know this Bryan, but Scarab racing boats got their start (Larry Smith) in Dana Point, subsequently teaming with Wellcraft for like 30 years or so. His current plant is in your neck of the woods, Costa Mesa...
I did not know that Bob, awesome. Jack Cole (Skipjack) is right up the road from me in Costa Mesa as well.
My friend owns one, we go up and talk to him every now and then.
He is really a cool guy.
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OK, I finally made it down to Dana Point today.
David was under the weather for about a week.
We also had the transom redone and that took a week to finish.
Anyway, we decided to go with a different Sea Star cylinder.
Boat is coming along and looking good.
Here are a few photos
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(http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/icemanbryan1/113d125a-bfbf-467a-8e65-5db834efef64.jpg) (http://s1138.photobucket.com/user/icemanbryan1/media/113d125a-bfbf-467a-8e65-5db834efef64.jpg.html)(http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/icemanbryan1/IMG_2945.jpg) (http://s1138.photobucket.com/user/icemanbryan1/media/IMG_2945.jpg.html)(http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/icemanbryan1/IMG_2943.jpg) (http://s1138.photobucket.com/user/icemanbryan1/media/IMG_2943.jpg.html)
I am not too impressed with the Binnacle, it is a little rough for me.
I am thinking about going on Ebay and finding a better looking unit to replace this one.
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nice! and i see a Fountain 38 express with a fancy full cover... :thumleft:
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nice! and i see a Fountain 38 express with a fancy full cover... :thumleft:
Aaron, yes, you do.
It is fore sale.
Has diesels as well.
Nice ride.
There is also a Scarab SuperSport 35 in front,
I really like those.
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i thought it had gasser's at first i seen what looks like a bravo 3 drive... every diesel fountain 38 or 48 express ive seen had 440 yanmars with arneson surface drives. the gassers got bravo 3's. we used to have a 38 in our marina with a pair of yanmars and arneson drives, it was a slick boat. them big surface props could move some water :shock:
im guessing that one has cummins' ?
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i thought it had gasser's at first i seen what looks like a bravo 3 drive... every diesel fountain 38 or 48 express ive seen had 440 yanmars with arneson surface drives. the gassers got bravo 3's. we used to have a 38 in our marina with a pair of yanmars and arneson drives, it was a slick boat. them big surface props could move some water :shock:
im guessing that one has cummins' ?
Not sure.
I will take some photos next week.
It is a awesome boat.
She was well built for sure.
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Looking good Bry! You're gonna love those twins!
Lew mentioned you'd been under the weather....hope you're feeling better :thumright:
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nice! and i see a Fountain 38 express with a fancy full cover... :thumleft:
That's great brand recognition for really not seeing anything. :salut:
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nice! and i see a Fountain 38 express with a fancy full cover... :thumleft:
That's great brand recognition for really not seeing anything. :salut:
Rick, 2 clues, pics 2 and 3. Vintage Fountain swim platform overhang over the drives in pic 2, and the classic drop snout visable through the cover in pic 3.
Well done Aaron!! :thumright: :thumright:
Bryan, the Teleflex HC5345 is called out for both your old Yam and the Fichts. Why did you guys decide to swap, and what did you swap to?
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Bob, I guess the original unit I had on the Yamaha was "adapted" to the motor.
The one we purchased was the HC5345, the fit and look is much better.
I will post up some photos to show the difference.
We plan on a sea trial next Saturday.
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Looking good Bry! You're gonna love those twins!
Lew mentioned you'd been under the weather....hope you're feeling better :thumright:
Yes, first time in years, like 17 or 20.
Friday felt real tired, figured it was jet lag.
Came home and fell asleep.
Woke up at 8pm or so didn't remember driving home, not a good feeling.
Back to sleep and woke up ears ringing.
Melanie gets the thermometer out 105!
We knock it down to 103 then 101, back to sleep.
Woke up Saturday at 1:30 PM????
Must have needed the sleep.
Still today tired and sluggish.
Nasty bug going round.
Feeling better though.
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pretty easy spotting a fountain, especially we had the same boat in the marina for a year, and the big sister the 48 express across the creek from us for about 6 months getting a repower. we currently have a 38 LXF in the marina, sick boat with triple 300 vrods
(http://fountainpowerboats.com/Boats/Images/SF_38_LE/Exterior/05.jpg)
bryan, the 250 osprey with twins that was at our marina had i believe 14-1/2x19P 3 blade omc SST props,
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Looks awesome! I'd like to see a closeup of the transom area and rigging... So it I decide to re-power with twins down the road.
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Aaron Wow man she has some nice lines! I love to go for a ride on her! The fountain is nice too... either one is gonna cost you a bunch in maintenance! :mrgreen:
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Bryan, some cylinders can be used in an "off the beaten path" type of install by inverting the pivot plate and using some "spacers". It's when you have to start carving on the steering arm or notching the underside of the lower pan...
Rednecks will do that, smart people will buy and install the proper cylinder... :salut:
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Looks awesome! I'd like to see a closeup of the transom area and rigging... So it I decide to re-power with twins down the road.
I will have some close ups once finished.
Should be able to see everything you will need to do.
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Bryan, some cylinders can be used in an "off the beaten path" type of install by inverting the pivot plate and using some "spacers". It's when you have to start carving on the steering arm or notching the underside of the lower pan...
Rednecks will do that, smart people will buy and install the proper cylinder... :salut:
Yes, I believe it is better to do it right the first time.
We also saw a linkage issue with the way it was.
We purchased the correct cylinder and linkage, problem solved!
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Bob, BTW, you were exact on the outboard placement.
We ended up with about 3/8 of each transom drain showing.
Motors are centered at 29 inches I believe.
Good Job!
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We ended up with about 3/8 of each transom drain showing.
That's a problem as the history of the AS transoms and engines go. The 60's/70s engines were narrow on the clamp portion and the drains were drilled to be outside the clamp. Then they changed the width of the clamp in the 80s I think and centering the motor covered most of both of the transom drains on these old boats :cry:
On my rebuild I am making sure I move my new drain holes in my transom so that will never happen again.
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We were thinking about moving my drain holes as well.
Problem is they are at the bottom of the radius already.
Any move outward would move them higher up.
We will see how they do where they are.
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Just wanted to post an update.
Was down in Dana Point today, project is coming along very nicely.
We had a week delay in getting the steering cylinder and arm.
We finally received it on Friday.
With the delay and David and myself feeling below par, it has taken longer than it should.
Today we decided to move some of the wiring in the transom.
We, and when I say we, I mean David.
He should have us on a sea trial by the weekend.
We are shooting for Thursday but you know how that goes.
David has done all new fuel lines, all new oil and return lines.
Serviced both engines and had the props balanced and tuned up.
We have a new steering cylinder and linkage, along with quite a bit of little things here and there.
He might be able to fire them up tonight.
Looks really good and I am very happy with the outcome thus far.
Just wanted to give those watching a little information.
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Cool - sounds like she'll be a real go getter. :thumleft:
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Bryan, always remember, it's a boat. What should be a 1/2 hour job really means 4 hours. So relax, let Dave get the job done right, and if the seatrial takes a bit longer, so be it... :salut: :salut:
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Bryan, always remember, it's a boat. What should be a 1/2 hour job really means 4 hours. :salut: :salut:
Just like Sheetrock Bob.. I told Laura I'd bang out a bed room in a day, remove old paneling, put in 5 outlets and three switches and rock it up, only 8 sheets how bad will that be???!? She gave me "the look".. 3 days later I am almost ready for paint. :roll: :roll:
Don't worry Brian the wait will be worth it!! :thumright: :thumleft:
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Bryan, always remember, it's a boat. What should be a 1/2 hour job really means 4 hours. So relax, let Dave get the job done right, and if the seatrial takes a bit longer, so be it... :salut: :salut:
You have that right.
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Bryan, always remember, it's a boat. What should be a 1/2 hour job really means 4 hours. :salut: :salut:
Just like Sheetrock Bob.. I told Laura I'd bang out a bed room in a day, remove old paneling, put in 5 outlets and three switches and rock it up, only 8 sheets how bad will that be???!? She gave me "the look".. 3 days later I am almost ready for paint. :roll: :roll:
Don't worry Brian the wait will be worth it!! :thumright: :thumleft:
She is looking good Dave.
Well worth the wait.
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Outboards are up and running!
Last night both outboards were fired up.
They are both running well and sound really good.
Looks like we have a tach issue with the gauge.
If David does not get it worked out this morning, most likely a new pair of gauges will be installed.
I have a short video of them running, no idea how to post it up.
I tried Photo bucket and it said " did not load correctly"?
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Great news Bryan!
Lew, Aaron,SB, Skoot and others have posted vids here before...hopefully they can help. I tried it once, and ran into the same situation you did.
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Bryan, upload your vid to youtube, then copy and post the url...easy peasy...
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Bryan, upload your vid to youtube, then copy and post the url...easy peasy...
Bob, I can't even get it to load onto Youtube
It was texted to me, would that make a difference?
Thanks B
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OK, little update.
I was down in Dana today.
Boat looks awesome, really a nice clean job David did.
The motors run great on the muff's.
Very smooth and really seem to shift well.
Looks like we are ready for a sea trial on Monday.
The ocean has been really rough the last few days, because of a storm we had.
We will wait till Monday and go for a cruise.
I just arrived home and realized I did not take photos.
I will get some early this week.
B
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I just arrived home and realized I did not take photos.
B
Bad boy...
(http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh301/seabob4/Smilies/Rulez.gif) Law says you must have pics...
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I just arrived home and realized I did not take photos.
B
Bad boy...
(http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh301/seabob4/Smilies/Rulez.gif) Law says you must have pics...
I know, especially for our guys that are weather challenged.
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Man I started reading this hoping to see some Aqua Porn!
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Bryan,
For seatrial, seeing as the motors are well past the break-in period, my guess is you'll see 54 MPH in calm waters...if you can find some. Maybe 52. Dump your gear and lighten the 245 up a little... :thumright: :thumright:
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Yeah, I know photos, duh!
We have had about 4 days of crap weather.
Nothing like the rest of the Country but crappy for here.
I had every intent of posting up some photos, we have done quite a bit.
When I say we, I mean David and his worker.
Hang on a couple more days, photos will be up.
Bob, the Pacific looks like Victory At Sea today, not sure how smooth we will see, maybe in the marina :)
I think she will do real well on a smooth area run.
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Great news! Looking forward to the splash! :thumright: :thumright:
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Bob, the Pacific looks like Victory At Sea today, not sure how smooth we will see, maybe in the marina :)
I think she will do real well on a smooth area run.
Pacific, from the latin word pacificus, meaning peacemaking... :scratch: :scratch:
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Bob, the Pacific looks like Victory At Sea today, not sure how smooth we will see, maybe in the marina :)
I think she will do real well on a smooth area run.
Pacific, from the latin word pacificus, meaning peacemaking... :scratch: :scratch:
Yes, go figure.
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what props will you be going with?
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what props will you be going with?
Aaron, how is it going?
I actually bought the pair the motors had on them.
Barry, whom I purchased the motors from. He emailed me and asked if I was interested in the props.
They are really clean and I hope they work well.
Ken at Prop Gods recommended the exact same pair.
They are the 17 Rev 4 props.
I think they will work great, we will see in a day or two.
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Ok, so Bryan is phone to youtube challenged! :cheers:
But, I am not!!! :cheers:
He is sick today but he texted me this video of the new motors being driven by his motor guy. 47 mph, in, as you can tell not the smoothest situation..
Enjoy!!! Congrats Bryan!!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eO7ltLOx4c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eO7ltLOx4c)
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Ok, so Bryan is phone to youtube challenged! :cheers:
But, I am not!!! :cheers:
He is sick today but he texted me this video of the new motors being driven by his motor guy. 47 mph, in, as you can tell not the smoothest situation..
Enjoy!!! Congrats Bryan!!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eO7ltLOx4c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eO7ltLOx4c)
I think challenged is a nice way to put it :)
Here is the GPS reading as well.
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Excellent Bryan! Get them dialed in, trim right, light load, and right conditions, you'll see my 52 MPH. Really stretch the trim out, might see that 54... :thumright:
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Bob, they were not trimmed out and it was rough, I am sure over 50 in the right conditions.
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Brian that is TOTALLY cool and what a sweet sound! More like a growl..... :mrgreen:
My condolences on the weather.... It is colder then a polar bears touchhole here with 18 inches of ice still on the lake..
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Just as a reminder, here is the link to another video when I water tested them for Bryan. They were on a 25 Sea Pro walkaround. little heavier hull than Bryan's and they look like they are really going to make the 245 walk the walk.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HucUF_50NE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HucUF_50NE)
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Brian that is TOTALLY cool and what a sweet sound! More like a growl..... :mrgreen:
My condolences on the weather.... It is colder then a polar bears touchhole here with 18 inches of ice still on the lake..
They sound great....hopefully your weather out there will straighten out and you guys can go ride this weekend :thumright: :thumright:
Dave....that's a LOT of ice :shock:
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Brian that is TOTALLY cool and what a sweet sound! More like a growl..... :mrgreen:
My condolences on the weather.... It is colder then a polar bears touchhole here with 18 inches of ice still on the lake..
Wow, that is cold :shock:
I guess I shouldn't complain when we get in the low 60's.
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Just as a reminder, here is the link to another video when I water tested them for Bryan. They were on a 25 Sea Pro walkaround. little heavier hull than Bryan's and they look like they are really going to make the 245 walk the walk.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HucUF_50NE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HucUF_50NE)
I think so.
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Brian that is TOTALLY cool and what a sweet sound! More like a growl..... :mrgreen:
My condolences on the weather.... It is colder then a polar bears touchhole here with 18 inches of ice still on the lake..
They sound great....hopefully your weather out there will straighten out and you guys can go ride this weekend :thumright: :thumright:
Dave....that's a LOT of ice :shock:
I think they will work out just fine.
Yes, that is a lot of ice, no more complaining about our weather.
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what props will you be going with?
Aaron, how is it going?
I actually bought the pair the motors had on them.
Barry, whom I purchased the motors from. He emailed me and asked if I was interested in the props.
They are really clean and I hope they work well.
Ken at Prop Gods recommended the exact same pair.
They are the 17 Rev 4 props.
I think they will work great, we will see in a day or two.
those are good props, have a lot of bite in them. i will test a 21p Rev 4 prop when mine is in the water.
you wont see the top end with 4 blades, i bet with 19p mirage, or tempest props, light load you'll see low-mid 50's
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Aaron, been a long day, didn't even think about 4 blades and pitch. Propped for top end, she WILL see 54-55 MPH with the Fichts...
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what props will you be going with?
Aaron, how is it going?
I actually bought the pair the motors had on them.
Barry, whom I purchased the motors from. He emailed me and asked if I was interested in the props.
They are really clean and I hope they work well.
Ken at Prop Gods recommended the exact same pair.
They are the 17 Rev 4 props.
I think they will work great, we will see in a day or two.
those are good props, have a lot of bite in them. i will test a 21p Rev 4 prop when mine is in the water.
you wont see the top end with 4 blades, i bet with 19p mirage, or tempest props, light load you'll see low-mid 50's
A, did you see the video? They bit in real well, should be good to go.
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Aaron, been a long day, didn't even think about 4 blades and pitch. Propped for top end, she WILL see 54-55 MPH with the Fichts...
Bob, you think we will see that high?
That would be awesome.
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Aaron, been a long day, didn't even think about 4 blades and pitch. Propped for top end, she WILL see 54-55 MPH with the Fichts...
Bob, you think we will see that high?
That would be awesome.
Honestly Bryan, yes. With a full tower, we ran 53 on NEW motors, barely broken in. No clue what props she was running, but I'm sure she was propped for speed...
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Cool.
It is the injection system video, kinda cool to watch.
Aaron, check it out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QN-5uTZC7w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QN-5uTZC7w)
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the 250 osprey we had in the marina had 19p OMC SST or Viper props, i want to say vipers.
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That's BAD A$$ Bryan, your smokin that 245 across the water... :shock: lot different than my single 250. Very Nice!!
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Marc, twin 150s really were an excellent match for the 245/250 Osprey or Explorer. I swear, the last year and 1/2 I was building them, 2 out of 3 245/250s were twins..Yam, Merc, or OMC...
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Marc, twin 150s really were an excellent match for the 245/250 Osprey or Explorer. I swear, the last year and 1/2 I was building them, 2 out of 3 245/250s were twins..Yam, Merc, or OMC...
but you hardly see any twins on the market.... thats why i was all over the one in our marina but the guy wouldnt budge... :cry:
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Yeah I doubt I'll ever get rid of my 245. I'll just end up repowering her down the road with either a BIG single or twins. Then maybe spend some money fixing her up now and then.
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Aaron, a lot of those 245s and 250s headed up N to the Chesapeake and Jersey areas, and a whole lot more to S FL, Miami and Lauderdale...
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Aaron, a lot of those 245s and 250s headed up N to the Chesapeake and Jersey areas, and a whole lot more to S FL, Miami and Lauderdale...
Some to CA.
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Well, crazy days here.
Extremely busy w work.
We had a little time this afternoon
Here is a photo of the install(http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/icemanbryan1/IMG_0101.jpg) (http://s1138.photobucket.com/user/icemanbryan1/media/IMG_0101.jpg.html)
Setting up the electronics
(http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/icemanbryan1/IMG_0098.jpg) (http://s1138.photobucket.com/user/icemanbryan1/media/IMG_0098.jpg.html)
Lewis, check out the numbers
(http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/icemanbryan1/IMG_0099.jpg) (http://s1138.photobucket.com/user/icemanbryan1/media/IMG_0099.jpg.html)
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Well done, Bryan. Just one, yes, one, teeny tiny gripe. I would have aligned the rigging hoses so that they were "in sync" with each other. Like on this twin Yam I did...
(http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh301/seabob4/Cape%20Horn%2023/CapeHorn23042.jpg)
But that's just me, I like the look. Excellent, otherwise!! :salut:
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Well done, Bryan. Just one, yes, one, teeny tiny gripe. I would have aligned the rigging hoses so that they were "in sync" with each other. Like on this twin Yam I did...
(http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh301/seabob4/Cape%20Horn%2023/CapeHorn23042.jpg)
But that's just me, I like the look. Excellent, otherwise!! :salut:
That is so funny, it bothers me to see it this way.
David utilized the existing Yamaha hole.
I think, I would like to have it re drilled and the original hole filled in, yeah?
Also, what do you think about white cable housings?
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NO WHITE!!! WHITE BAD!!!
Seriously, white just discolors, you'll hate it in a couple years. Stick with the black, you'll thank me... :thumright:
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Bryan, you can get the look you want simply by "twisting" around the rigging hose. Provided the fuel and oil lines inside the hose can take it.
The way I do it is the way I was taught many moons ago by my good friend Tony Fernandez. Every time I rig a motor, I have him to thank for that... :salut:
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NO WHITE!!! WHITE BAD!!!
Seriously, white just discolors, you'll hate it in a couple years. Stick with the black, you'll thank me... :thumright:
Black it is