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Title: Outboard bracket set back?
Post by: jwill3131 on January 30, 2013, 10:06:10 PM
I have a '75 246 CCC that I will be enclosing the transom and installing a bracket. My question is what is a good setback lenth for that size boat? Or does it even matter? I can get a good deal on a 18 inch set back but I dont know if that is far enough back for the size of my boat. Anyone with knowledge in this please let me know what you think and also anything else that i might need to know before buying one and installing it. Thank you. I will be putting a 250 hp outobard on it if that makes a difference for anything.
Title: Re: Outboard bracket set back?
Post by: Blue Agave on January 30, 2013, 10:08:34 PM
I'd go with a 30" setback. Checkout Armstrong Nauical Products, you can get all the information you need from them.
Title: Re: Outboard bracket set back?
Post by: seabob4 on January 30, 2013, 10:15:30 PM
24" to 30", as Nando stated.  His 30" Armstrong makes for a GREAT platform (swim, dive, piss, fight a fish) that becomes a truly useful part of the boat.  Given that you'll have engine rigging and steering hoses encroaching into that space...the bigger the better!

Besides, Nando's dog, Guiness, HAS to have that room!  Ingress/egress, you know?! :thumleft:  :thumleft:

And this would be Guiness...

(http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh301/seabob4/AS%20Fishing%20Trip/FishingTrip001.jpg)
Title: Re: Outboard bracket set back?
Post by: Capt. Bob on January 31, 2013, 06:59:46 AM
My B Bracket platform was 26" on my 222 CCP.
Performed excellent and added needed transom space.

Good luck.
Title: Re: Outboard bracket set back?
Post by: jwill3131 on January 31, 2013, 05:29:22 PM
Thank you, I get what you guys are saying about the extra space and totally agree. I will probably go with 26", I just wanted to make sure that there wasnt a certain set back distance in relation to the boats size.
Title: Re: Outboard bracket set back?
Post by: Skoot on February 04, 2013, 10:12:15 PM
have you thought about a porta-bracket?  I think they have a 26" set back.
Title: Re: Outboard bracket set back?
Post by: seabob4 on February 04, 2013, 11:08:53 PM
Quote from: "Skoot"
have you thought about a porta-bracket?  I think they have a 26" set back.

Yeah, they do Scott, but with swim platforms would come in around $3300, plus you have to locate and rig the pump, the hoses, the drain on the batt...

I think an Armstrong or Stainless Marine single engine bracket would be the deal here...
Title: Re: Outboard bracket set back?
Post by: Aswaff400 on February 05, 2013, 11:13:08 AM
i will be going with a 17 inch set back porta bracket on my rebuild...
Title: Re: Outboard bracket set back?
Post by: TheKid on February 14, 2013, 01:46:31 PM
I ahve been researching the same.

Minimum offset should be space needed to fully up trim your motor without hitting transom.

Here are the cheapest brackets I have seen.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Double-Outboard-Engine-Bracket-with-Swim-Platforn-/321071447352?pt=Boat_Parts_Accessories_Gear&hash=item4ac1597d38&vxp=mtr

 From A & J MARINE WELDING Miami, Florida
Title: Re: Outboard bracket set back?
Post by: jwill3131 on February 14, 2013, 08:52:56 PM
I actually contacted A&J for a quote on a 26 inch set back and will def. be going with them for the price. They quoted me for a standard bracket and a flotation bracket. The flotation bracket was $100 more. Does anyone know what the difference is between the two types? and for the cost would it be worth it to go with the flotation style?
Title: Re: Outboard bracket set back?
Post by: seabob4 on February 14, 2013, 09:02:31 PM
Before you order anything!!

I have been installing brackets from the 2 biggest in the business, Armstrong and Stainless marine for a LONG time now, and have never come across, nor was it mentioned,...flotation model.  So do yourselves a favor, contact these companies and have them explain to you just what exactly the "flotation" model consists of.  Do they just fill them with foam?  Can they prove that their brackets improve bouyancy?


Sounds like a bunch of BS to me...
Title: Re: Outboard bracket set back?
Post by: Capt. Bob on February 14, 2013, 09:42:42 PM
As it was explained to me 17 years ago.

The "added" floatation results from the air trapped in the engine mounting area. My B Bracket was solid across the transom and the "cube" of air trapped inside added some floatation to offset the weight of the motor. There was no foam inside but I doubt it would "float" if you dropped it in the water. Still, I never tried and no one said it would only that the air pocket created in the mounting section would offset some of the weight.

Whatever.
Title: Re: Outboard bracket set back?
Post by: wingtime on February 14, 2013, 10:39:25 PM
Without a doubt if the enclosed area of the bracket is below the waterline and it displaces water it will provide flotation as long as the volume of the area displaced weighs less then 64 lbs per cubic foot (salt water).  So if the enclosed area weighs say 20 lbs and it displaces two cubic feet of water than it will provide 108 lbs of bouncy.
Title: Re: Outboard bracket set back?
Post by: seabob4 on February 14, 2013, 10:46:56 PM
And how many brackets have I encountered with water in them...despite "sealed" access pies or whatever...

Just sayin'...
Title: Re: Outboard bracket set back?
Post by: wingtime on February 14, 2013, 10:56:59 PM
Quote from: "seabob4"
And how many brackets have I encountered with water in them...despite "sealed" access pies or whatever...

Just sayin'...

LOL thats another story!  :D
Title: Re: Outboard bracket set back?
Post by: Blue Agave on February 14, 2013, 11:47:15 PM
Armstrong brackets are floatation brackets. I have a Armstrong bracket on my boat and I love it. I am not familiar with A&J but based on the photos I saw on the link provided I would be willing to bet what they are calling their flotation bracket is the bracket with the V bottom. They both will provide floatation but the V bottom bracket will provide more. For $100 I would go for the the bracket they refer to as their floation bracket.
Title: Re: Outboard bracket set back?
Post by: Capt. Bob on February 15, 2013, 08:56:21 AM
Quote from: "seabob4"
And how many brackets have I encountered with water in them...despite "sealed" access pies or whatever...

I have no idea but....

My B Bracket sealed very well for having a snap in pie plate access. I'd bet a screw in would have helped a little more but still.....
It had way more air than water.
Title: Re: Outboard bracket set back?
Post by: jwill3131 on April 13, 2013, 10:22:49 PM
Ok so I got a 29" set back, brand new $600, pretty sweet deal. Now my question is what is the proper mounting height for that, I have read a lot and am a bit unsure of what to believe. Please let me know anything that could help me. Also my motor is a 25" shaft.
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