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August 14, 2021, 04:05:58 PM
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4rider

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advice on buying an Aquasport boat
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Looking to get advice on buying an Aquasport boat. I have it narrowed down to 205 Osprey and 222 CCP:
- 2004 Aquasport 205 Osprey 2004 Johnson 150HP Outboard offered at $9500 (NADA $16,095)
- 1986 Aquasport 222 CCP with 2003 twin 90 Honda Outboards offered at $11000 (NADA $10,455)

Both come with trailers and are located in Connecticut.

I know they are different boats serving different purposes. What I am looking is stable boat that can handle light offshore/striper fishing and be also a family boat. 222 CCP has dry weight of 2300lbs where the 205 Osprey is rated at 2790 dry weight. I have 2006 4Runner 6 cylinder rated for 5000lbs towing.
Any thoughts and opinions?

August 14, 2021, 04:38:03 PM
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Capt. Bob

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« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2021, 04:38:03 PM »
They are indeed two different hulls.

18 years in difference is the first thing. What has been done to the CCP over the years? The sweet spot for that hull IMHO is a 200 hp two stroke but still, I think my 150 Yamaha would push it nicely. In its day, it came with a 185hp base motor. It is a Hialeah hull so you need to check rot. That brings us back to my first point.

I don't have any knowledge of the 205 except it is a Genmar hull.  I've see one before and they appear to be nice hulls.
I don't believe it's a deep V design like the CCP. The CCP was made for offshore runs in South Fla. Best Dolphin fishing boat I owned but you don't have a coffin.

Any additional information on these hulls?   
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August 14, 2021, 05:31:21 PM
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Re: advice on buying an Aquasport boat
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2021, 05:31:21 PM »
Thank you for your comment Capt. Bob.
I have looked at another 1987 222CCP with 200HP Mercury few weeks ago. It didn't have the coffin too. The boat owner gave me a story that it belong to a friend that loaned money from him. The boat was neglected in the last 3-5 years so I opted out after checking it out. Google map photo showed the boat has been parked there years ago, so I walked away.
This 1986 222CCP seems to be taken care off, but definitely repowered. Don't know what has been done to it. Will have to find out from the owner.
What did you use to tow your CCP with? What you think of the price? $11000 seems a bit high, but it's still crazy sellers boat market.
Agree that the 205 Osprey hull is not deep as the CCP as it is a combination of family/leisure boat that you can fish off occasionally. I get your point on the 18 years of age difference.
Interestingly enough the 205 Osprey hull is about 500lbs heavier than 222 CCP. That 150 Johnson was the smallest engine offered to lower the price of the boat and eventually make it more appealing to wider circle of buyers. Looks like it either has the lower unit replaced or was living in the slip most of his life. Hence the difference in the color.
I am planning on having either one surveyed. The issue is with the sea trial. In my search for a bigger boat this season, I was told on multiple occasions that sea trial is with deposit only and it is not refundable if you walk away unless the boat fails.
Love to hear owners of 205 Ospreys in 2002/3/4 vintage, what do you like or not? What to look for when checking boat? Your comments and opinions are very much appreciated.

August 15, 2021, 11:19:24 AM
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« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2021, 11:19:24 AM »
I have the 205 Yr 2002, came with a 175 Johnson. It was fast enough for me but sucked gas just as quick
The hull is a good all a rounder, in the north easy you will miss the tee top unless your a fly guy
I kept and repowered with a new Zuke 200 after 10 seasons with the carbed Johnson

August 15, 2021, 12:16:11 PM
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« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2021, 12:16:11 PM »
Thanks plugger,
This is very helpful. Planning on adding t-top. How high are the gunnels on your 205? Does it ride relatively dry? Hull is 2750 lbs dry weight so it must be ok in 2-4’ seas?

August 15, 2021, 01:19:37 PM
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« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2021, 01:19:37 PM »
Yes, the CCP seems high but then it's only worth what someone will pay so...

The Genmar hulls seem to be heavier than the older Hialeah hulls. Only you know what you will be using the boat for and that should be your driving factor. While the 205 may be smaller, it lends itself more toward what you seem to want. The CCP can be a family boat also but it was designed as a fishing craft. The deck is set up for trolling with its cockpit robbing transom design. For its size, it will get into skinny water (relatively speaking).

With all that said, I'm thinking you would get better use from the 205 plus the newer hull (if you find it works for you) will help to justify re-powering cost.

I pulled my with a 2500 Duramax but newer model 1/2 ton pickups will pull either fine. I would think you would have a better towing experience if the trailer has a good set of brakes.

Good luck. :thumright:

PS..Aquas have been called many things but dry isn't one.
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August 15, 2021, 02:21:38 PM
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Re: advice on buying an Aquasport boat
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2021, 02:21:38 PM »
Thanks again for your thoughts Capt. Bob.
The big question is how long 150 Johnson will last on the 205. 222 CCP has twin 90 hp 2003 Honda’s that are same vintage as the 150 Johnson. Someone on this site mentioned that 222CCP have been designed for twin power.
I know that a boat is only worth what someone is willing to pay, but market has been crazy this year. Feedback that I am receiving on this site has been tremendously helpful. I can see that the 205 maybe a better of both worlds for my needs if she checks out ok. Found that is selling by a marina. The 205 boat is missing CC windshield and will need T-top. Breaking the plexiglass windshield takes some effort, so not sure what the story is, but hopefully will find out.

August 15, 2021, 03:03:07 PM
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Re: advice on buying an Aquasport boat
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2021, 03:03:07 PM »
Frankly it has the deepest cockpit of any 20 footer I seen , those folding tee tops like the other ccp in your post are from what I see are not too good


 Better to find off a similar rig and if you need to have redone to make up to your ride, nothing  as annoying as a Ill fitting Top

August 15, 2021, 03:21:39 PM
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Re: advice on buying an Aquasport boat
« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2021, 03:21:39 PM »
Thanks plugger. planning on checking 205 next week.

 

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