Cale's 1986 osprey 200 rebuild 140 suzuki with bracket

[Crives92]

I have officially kicked off the rebuild process. I just wanted to document it and of course welcome any advice of the many experts. I have been around boats (of all kinds) my entire life. I have never done this level of rebuild though. I am planning to put a new nidacore floor, potentially a new transom (at least a partial rework...the current job looks like ), new gas tank, new console and leaning post, rewire with some new electronics, and finally paint for the inside and outside. I plan for ice blue on the outside and a light grey accented for non skid on the inside. No bottom paint. I have already kicked off the process and have removed the ttop, console, and center floor. I will try and post pics as I go. Thanks and enjoy my mistakes. 🤣👍👍👍

[Crives92]

[Tampa Bay Mike]

Good luck and thanks for sharing. Nice to see a 200 getting some love.

[Crives92]

Thanks mike. It needs much love. Cutting the floor out tomorrow.

[RickK]

Cale - I moved some of your pics into your Member Gallery (that's where you should upload them).  I also "Edit photo/Rotate CW/Saved" any pics that needed it. You may need to refresh the screen to see the changes. When you take a pic with your phone make sure you hold the phone horizontally with the lens to the left.  That will ensure they appear correctly when you post them.
Looks like you're making some progress, which is a good thing.  Is your plan to re0use the wiring trough or run pipes for cables/wiring?

[Crives92]

Thanks rick. I thought that is where I uploaded them, and i couldn't for the life of me figure out how to rotate them. You know as a millenial you would think i would know this stuff being raised up around computers. 🤣🤣. I am an old soul millenial I suppose. I plan to run pipes. I HATE that stupid trough. I liked it when I first bought the boat but it just stays filthy all the time. Where do you reccomemend running the pipes? Thanks.

[Crives92]

Floor is mostly removed. What the hell is the point of the foam? Its water logged. Is it recommended to replace it? Also what is the cement blue-green stuff on top on the stringers? Its stock hard and a pain in the as**. This was fun....not.

[mshugg]

The foam was originally there for floatation, sound deafening and adding stiffness to the hull.  Some people don’t foam their rebuilds, but I think it’s a big part of the structure of the original hull.  The problem is that in the interest of saving cost, Aquasport did nothing to prevent water from getting g to the foam.  Once water gets trapped, it has no where to go except into the foam.  When you rebuild, you can take steps to seal the foam and plan drainage, so that the foam won’t trap water.

The gray/green stuff is bonding putty, that glued your deck to the stringers.  Aquasport was quite generous when they put it into most hulls.

[Crives92]

You are spot on with that. As I ripped the foam out I see that they put drains at the back, then proceeded to pour foam and fill those holes up with foam, so there is literally no place for it to drain. WTH. I just lost soooo much weight with that foam and water logged wood. I have a good mind not to out it back, my only concern was exactly what you said. I want it to be structurally sound. Also I figured that's what the concrete crap was. They were more than generous lol.  Thanks for the feedback.

[RickK]

Cale, can you take a pic or two of the transom from the inside and post them plz? Is that a rebuilt transom or did someone just fill in the transom and mount a bracket at the old notch  Reason I ask is that routing your pipes usually depend on how/where you'll come up at the aft and if it's inside a cabinet or behind a wall. I made custom corner cabinets to come up in, TB Mike and mshugg both did different applications for theirs. Spend some time looking at theirs since your transom is enclosed.
BTW, I like that work area - I probably could have paid for something like that with the what I paid for all the tarps I bought over the years.

[Crives92]

I will get you one rick. Work tomorrow then back at it sat. I went shopping today 😖😖. Lots of 1708, resin, nidacore and foam. He just added on to the top of it, it looks like crap. That is part of what I am fixing. The transom appears to be solid when drilled into and tapped around on and when bounced on. So I'm not redoing it completely, just the top half. I plan to bring it up to the top of the boat and flatten it all the way across. I will look around and see what I like for wire exit. I was thinking of glassing a pipe to the bottom of the floor all the way to the back then up and through the transom? I am raising the floor so the pipe should easily clear the tank.  It's funny you mention the barn. That was an ultimate budget build barn. Irma tore down my pops metal building so I used the A frames from it and added some wood and tin and call it a barn. All in all I have about 400 bucks in it. It sure beats being in the sun. Also I have a question. I am thinking of adding folding captain chairs to my current leaning post. I may have to cut it down some but that's ok. What yalls thoughts. I posted a link of the seat I am talking about. They are a tad more wide than my leaning post but only by about 6 inches total. So 3 or so to each side. They are priced right.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00YMLJJI2/?coliid=I1XDBPD2PJIW2H&colid=3SHEA2D6Z8NSE&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it#immersive-view_1578624481046

[Crives92]

More progress. These pictures show how the transom was before. I was super unhappy with it. I will be putting waxed melamine board on tomorrow and glassing the transom up high then going across to match the boat and have a nice flat surface. The transom and stringers were in great shape (minus all the holes that I will fill in the transom). It feels good to finally be adding to the baot again instead of taking things off. Lol.

[Crives92]

I have a new question. I am raising the stringers with glassed plywood a total of 3 inches. I plan to put a support around the sides of the boat and then tab them from the top side. My issue is the front of the stringers are about 3/4 of an inch higher on each side (the front is higher and suddenly slopes down about 1/2 back on the stringer). I realize this causes the floor to slope down towards the rear once the floor is bonded to it. My question is, does this show to the eyes eith the floor installed? I realize this would help with water drainage. Just curious what everyone else has done? I cant seem to find this question in all of my research.

[RickK]

I guess i don't understand your description...are you saying the stringer's tops slope down toward the outside of the hull? Remember that the original floors are not flat, they are "crowned" slightly to shed water to the sides and toward the aft.

[Crives92]

I know, it's hard to explain. Basically the back of the stringers are approx 3/4 of an inch lower than the front. Where the old wiring trough was the stringer lowers suddenly (matches on both side). The only thing I can think is they put more material on the back half of the stringers to screw things down to? I will slope it down if that's what needs to be done. I may just be overthinking it, hell I dont know.