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November 15, 2014, 09:25:40 PM
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Re: 1973 222 rebuild
« Reply #30 on: November 15, 2014, 09:25:40 PM »
Instead of using flap wheels, I use resin disks with 35 grit, they last much longer and get the job done quick. Don't stay in 1 place long or your going to go through the glass. Do as Craig says with the small holes and fill. Not an issue that can't be fixed. Keep up the good work.

November 15, 2014, 10:52:48 PM
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Re: 1973 222 rebuild
« Reply #31 on: November 15, 2014, 10:52:48 PM »
I’ve used some resin disk on a cheap die grinder i have but my air compressor just won’t keep up. They work great!

And as far as the transom goes, Awesome, I will start injecting the resin over the next two day.

I can’t thank you all enough for the advice and motivation! I’m trying to hold up to my end and keep the updates coming!

November 18, 2014, 10:10:07 PM
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« Reply #32 on: November 18, 2014, 10:10:07 PM »
So I made a trip to tractor supply and bought a few 60cc syringes. I then drilled holes along the top of the transom and started to fill with resin, it worked perfectly. I managed to get a before pic but not an after pic yet. Below is the before, you can see the light colored spot is the void spaces. All said and done the transom turned out solid as a rock.
 

I went ahead and pulled the font deck out in one piece, and set the top cap back in place.

Here you can see where I glassed the core into the hull. I first made a fillet of thickened resin then laid a 12” wide layer of 1.5oz followed by a 12” layer of 1708. The next step will be to cover the forward face of the transom and call it good!!


I will be starting on the stringers next and I’m currently open to any suggestions on which route to take. The stringers definitely have some major delamination in spots. I really want to save the original stringers, maybe reattach them and “beef” them up some. Any thoughts???

November 18, 2014, 11:42:04 PM
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Re: 1973 222 rebuild
« Reply #33 on: November 18, 2014, 11:42:04 PM »
First off...your transom install looks great. Clean, strong, and no waste/slop. Sweet work :thumright:

We have the same ride, a '73 22-2.  So thoughts on the stringers and how we attacked them here.

Cut the tops off, leaving the risers. Dig out the foam, leaving glass only. Allow what is left dry to out, bone dry. Tilt her up high in the bow to facilitate/drain.
When you're happy with dry....grind/prep and tab the stringers on the inside. Then tab outside. Then pour four-pound density closed-cell foam. Slice off the overflow on the tops with a machete.

Depending on where your T-Top lands...you may want to cap the stringers with high-density Penske board, Duralloy board, etc. Something you can screw to.

If the console/top lands outside the stringers...which it probably will....don't waste the weight/money on the heavy board. Just wrap the stringer tops with three plus layers of 1708 graduating down and call it good. You can inlay heavy board in the deck, or go with several other alternative solutions for setting the console/top. If you deck with plywood...forget the above. Just prep with overdrilled epoxy and bolt/screw.  

Plan/measure. Saves weight/time/money in the end.

November 19, 2014, 12:58:12 PM
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Re: 1973 222 rebuild
« Reply #34 on: November 19, 2014, 12:58:12 PM »
Gran, thanks for the input on the stringer ... I believe this is the route I'm going to take. Grinding and glassing the inside of the stringers will be a pain I'm sure.... but in my mind better then removing the stringers all together.  I am thinking of running a layer of 1708 along the keel and chines for reinforcement, maybe even the whole hull. If I do this, at least between the stringers in the keel area, do I need to replace the balsa core that is currently between the stringers?

November 19, 2014, 09:10:34 PM
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« Reply #35 on: November 19, 2014, 09:10:34 PM »
Yes,you need to do that. It's not balsa, just some type of hardwood.....juniper, white oak, etc. Go ahead and be done with it. It will be half-gone/rotten on the bottom when you open it up.

After we removed it, we ran a layer or two (in spots) of 1708 between the stringers, tied into the outside tabs.

Definitely do the insides, gonna be some work, but you'll lock everything down tight.

Extra weight like this low in the boat is where it needs to go. You'll be pleased with how she runs.

November 19, 2014, 10:13:42 PM
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« Reply #36 on: November 19, 2014, 10:13:42 PM »
I plan on replacing the upright small center stringer.The two pieces on either side of that are the ones I thought may be balsa... wasn't real sure as they are completely gone! I also ripped into my the starboard stringer today and pull most the foam. Definitely lots of moisture inside, the wood inside the stringer was completely gone also. Along with the foam I found a grocery bags, a ziplock bag, and lots of leaves. The half round piece in the bottom of the stringer(woven) pulled right off the hull and it was resin starved. Most of the woven that attached the stringers to the hull is  delaminating.
One more thing, the portion of the stringers that is just aft of the bulkhead. The stringer has a step down and a platform... what is its purpose? Below the platform is open into the stringers.  This will keep the stringers from being sealed, and will allow water back into them. I'm thinking of cutting all this out aft of the bulkhead when I build the transom knees??

November 20, 2014, 05:06:09 AM
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Re: 1973 222 rebuild
« Reply #37 on: November 20, 2014, 05:06:09 AM »
Fairly sure the same stringer system was used for all of the 22-2's regardless of the power options chosen.....inboard, inboard/outboard, or outboard. The step-down near the transom and associated platform was a bed for the I/O configuration IMHO.

Have dug up some pics of knee install options, etc. and will post them when get to work. The Big Boss is off today.

That would be my wife.

She doesn't much care for "That Damn Aquanet."

 :lol:

November 20, 2014, 07:06:30 AM
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Re: 1973 222 rebuild
« Reply #38 on: November 20, 2014, 07:06:30 AM »
Quote from: "gran398"
Have dug up some pics of knee install options, etc. and will post them when get to work. The Big Boss is off today.

That would be my wife.

She doesn't much care for "That Damn Aquanet."

 :lol:

Right on Scotty! That would be an Aquawidow... :mrgreen:
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November 20, 2014, 08:45:26 AM
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« Reply #39 on: November 20, 2014, 08:45:26 AM »
Thanks Dave!

Same ol' song as my other wives. "You only think about yourself".

Daddy always said I was a poor listener :mrgreen:

Back on topic shortly :salut:

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November 20, 2014, 09:20:33 AM
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« Reply #40 on: November 20, 2014, 09:20:33 AM »
Same boat man!! We're all in this together! :salut:

Kid's wife is a rebuildwidow because of the Aquanet so it does'nt count as a derail!! 8)  :wink:  :wink:
Dave

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November 20, 2014, 09:39:03 AM
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« Reply #41 on: November 20, 2014, 09:39:03 AM »
No no no, don't cuss me like that, no wife here :D

November 20, 2014, 09:41:41 AM
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« Reply #42 on: November 20, 2014, 09:41:41 AM »
Use these when you remove that wood coring from the hull. They are cheap and easy to put down. Wont rot and you can cut to fit.
http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/us ... ull+Planks

Ill be using a lot of that stuff with my 2 rebuilds I have going.

November 20, 2014, 10:25:08 AM
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Re: 1973 222 rebuild
« Reply #43 on: November 20, 2014, 10:25:08 AM »
Kidd, don't be looking a wife until this thing is splashed :mrgreen:



Pic of Capt E's '74 model transom area showing the bulkhead and shelf.

Agree with you, we cut this out too.


November 20, 2014, 10:53:37 AM
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Re: 1973 222 rebuild
« Reply #44 on: November 20, 2014, 10:53:37 AM »
Pic of knees on Dirtwheels' sweet 22-2 Flattie. You'll see the majority of knee install pics for closed transoms on the 22-2 Flatback Rebuild subforum.


 

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