Classic AquaSport
Aquasport Model Rebuilds, Mods, Updates and Refreshes => Center Console Professional (CCP) Rebuilds => 200 CCP Rebuilds => Topic started by: jdupree on May 14, 2008, 11:57:08 AM
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Need to find out what this is :? These 2 pictures are taken from the access hatch by the coffin box drain directly under the coffin box toward the bow. I know on the 222 CCP that there is a storage locker that sits in front of the coffin box on the deck. This glassed in "thing" appears to be located where the coffin box ends. Could this possibly be a storage locker that was built in with the cap but the deck never cut. It does look rounded toward the bottom.
I have noticed that right where the coffin box ends, the deck has a "hollow feel" to it and then firms right back up as you get close to the anchor locker or even go back under the coffin box.
That would be great if infact that is storage like on the 222 CCP :D
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/368IMG_0672.JPG)
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/368IMG_0685.JPG)
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Looks like the molded-in underdeck stowage. Does your boat not have the hatch in front of the coffin?
(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j7/GoneFission/CIMG0258.jpg)
(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j7/GoneFission/CIMG0257.jpg)
If not, get a hatch - the IPS 13x23 works great - get out the sawzall and start cuttin'! :twisted:
Bluewater Marine has a great deal on the IPS deck hatch for $45:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/13-x-23- ... enameZWDVW (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/13-x-23-Deck-Insp-Access-Hatch-Seafoam-Off-white_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ26448QQihZ022QQitemZ350018895892QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW)
Oh, and don't forget to put a drain and plug in the back center... :wink:
Good luck!
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I have never seen the hatch there on any 20' CCP's :? That is what it looks like to me as well. But why would they mold it in with the cap and never cut a hatch in the deck :?
I hope I don't start cutting to find that is not the storage, but it looks like to me something is there. I guess the key will be finding the right area in the deck to cut. That will be great if that is the starage locker. That will give me additional storage.
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I have an '85 200 CCP. If you'd like to make a comparison, I will check the same location on my boat tomorrow and get back to you. I just had a few helpers over the house minutes ago to help lift a leaning post and the coffin box aboard (it was out when I bought it). The coffin box has not been bolted down yet so I can take a look see and get back to the post.
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Ditto on the storage box.
I have the same thing on my 222. I replaced the factory hatch lid with an after market one. I stow the life jackets there.
Maybe they put those in all the CCPs but the hatch was an option on the 200s :?
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This is your lucky day! You seem to have some bonus storage on that 200. I took pics of my boat through the access port forward of the console which is underneath the fish box. I can see clear up to the bulkhead of the anchor locker. No fiberglass tub "thing" on the '85 200 CCP that I own. I've been thinking that there could be a use for all that empty space down there. If I could get a hatch big enough, I could fit one or both of my skinny young sons down there! I'll post pics this evening after work during happy hour!
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Thanks for letting me know that. Maybe when they built the cap they thought it was going on the 222 CCP :D That is very interesting :!: I wonder if that might have been a factory option for my year boat :?:
Anyway, can't wait to get the hatch so I can start cutting :twisted:
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Remember - measure twice, cut once!
Also, you will probably find that part of your deck is plywood cored. Yes, I know Aquasport said CCPs had composite decks, but the bow area is often plywood cored, and the whole deck is plywood on some CCPs. That's why the front area goes first, especially if you have the hatch there, cuz Aquasport did not seal the wood edges for the hatch.
So make sure you mix up some epoxy/resin and seal the hatch edges after you cut the deck and fit the hatch. Let it cure well and then use some 5200 to seal the hatch to the deck. That should prevent water intrusion into the deck wood and prevent delamination or rot of the plywood core.
Here's a pic of mine with the hatch out - I epoxied the edges and screw holes:
(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j7/GoneFission/CIMG0248.jpg)
Also, remember to drill and fit a drain plug in the center rear - you want to be able to drain this if needed. You can simply drill a hole and use a rubber drain plug, install a thimble/plug, or put a garboard drain and plug in - whatever works!
Good luck!
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Thanks :!: Looks like you had to cut :?: Did you go with a bigger hatch :?: As far as the hatch goes, does it have a template to tape down for the cut :?:
Also, will a jig saw go thru that deck :?:
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The IPS hatch was just a bit bigger than the orgininal, so I had to sand the edges a bit to make it fit. After sanding, I made sure it fit and then sealed/epoxied the edges and screw holes.
The hatch should come with a template you can tape down to the deck. You can use a jig saw - try a finer tooth blade and you will get less fiberglass breakage and a better edge. Also, cut a smaller hole first - maybe the size of a 6" deck plate and look inside before you make the big cut - you want to be sure!
Also, if you use the IPS hatch and want it to open toward the bow, you will need to loosen the coffin to be able to get the screws in. The coffin can stay in place if you want the hatch to open toward the stern. The hatch has to be almost fully open in order to put the mounting screws in.
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Thanks GF :wink: I Plan to make the circular deck plate cut first just to check and make sure, but that has to be the storage compartment. If not, can't wait to see what it is :D
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Maybe your boat has more than one coffin! :scratch:
:roll: :shock: :twisted: :roll: :shock: :lol:
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Who know what lies beneath :alien:
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Air :wink:
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Sorry I'm a little late in the evening with the photos. Happy hour went overtime.
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/2864IM000630.JPG)
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John, can we see some photos of the hatch install when it happens. I'd like to get the length, width, depth dimensions of that stock tub AS put into the 200.
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I know this is an old thread but I found that same glassed over compartment while checking the floor under the coffin box. My boat is a 1980 200 CCP.
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Good deal
Really like the ability to find old threads due to the terrific efforts and organizational skills of our mods :salut:
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Since this thread has been resurrected... FWIW ... My 1982 200CCP also has the "hidden" hatch.
Chris
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I wonder if my 87 has it??? :?:
How do you find out? its not just cut and pray is it? I have a deck plate in my right front storage compartment from running the fuel lines is there any way to see from there?
If anyone knows this would be great to be resurrected again!!
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Not sure what you mean by “right front starage compartment.” Do you have a photo of your front deck? I wasn’t aware that the CCP ever had anything but the coffin box, or in later models, an in deck fishbox.
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I wonder if my 87 has it??? :?:
If your 87 hull is a CCP, then yes.
They're referring to the cavernous area below deck on all CCPs. One member made storage parallel to his center console. Another used the area under the coffin/fish box.
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I wasnt aware of it having any extra storage other than the coffin box either but after reading the thread I saw or believe that there is extra compartment storage under the floor in front of the console. I wish there was a picture or guideline to follow before hacking the floor up. Although looking at a repower it might it be a bad idea to get a good look at any saturation. Is there any pictures of this hiden compartment or is it all guess work?
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There seems to be some confusion here and sadly, some of it may be my fault.
First, "hidden compartment" is not a fair description. If you have a hatch, forward of the coffin box then you should have a molded in "tray" for storage that is accessed from said hatch. No need to hack up the floor looking for the tray, aka hidden compartment, cause it ain't there.
What is considered a hidden compartment (known UN-politically correct as a Haitian Hatch) is the large area that is available under the deck of a CCP due to its deep hull and large stringers. Members have added deck access to these areas for additional storage.
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ok Capt. Bob. That clarifies it up a bit. Mine is an 87 and I have seen some pictures of the usable space on the sidewalls with hatches for extra space and storage is that the space that you are now referring to? Aqua beer has some pictures on his aft side of three hatches in the floor. I was under the impression from other rebuild pictures that the sides had foam in them. Im also assuming no that this is incorrect? If this was a known option prior to installing my tower I would have gone that route and put backing plates under them with the access
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The factory placed foam between the outside of the stringers and the hull wall. Members who placed hatches in these spots had to remove a section of foam. Since you haven't rebuilt/replaced your deck, there is foam there you'll need to remove.
Here's an example.
https://classicaquasport.com/smf/index.php?topic=5395.msg35811#msg35811
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So now that I have removed and replaced the transom, I pulled up the floors and use for a template for the new one and boom!! There she was a giant area under the platform that would be foolish not to use for dive gear, and "wet" gear etc. The area is a huge waist of space and will save me a lot of time instead of building smaller in floor hatches on the console sides I will use that one big one up front and it should be plenty. I will relocate my fuel tank forward another 8 inches and still have 20 inches of clearance to the front deck. Crazy they didn't utilize this for selling purposes back in the day
1987 Osprey 200
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During my rebuild I cut an additional access hatch in the front of the single storage in my '71 170. I bought a dip net the size of the opening and installed it on rods installed under the opening. I figured that it being an open net thing I could store my life preservers and anything soft in it.
Seems that if you don't keep the bilge dry the netting will get moldy. Pulling the net outward and laying it on the deck (leaving the hatch open) will allow the Sun to kill the mold, but carrying a spray bottle of 25/75 bleach/water and spraying it on the netting while it is laying on the casting deck is best.
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Thats a good Idea rick. I have all my life jackets underneath the tower but love the option for additional storage as being on a smaller boat it seems to be the biggest problem. Drainage will have to be laid out and put in as well as some bilgekote. I will try and post a picture since previously when I was trying to figure this out I couldnt find anything.
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The compartment shows up on the marketing materials. Maybe it was intended to be a dealer installed option. You know, cut a hole, install a hatch charge a few hundred cor it.
http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=13825&title=200ccp-back-page&cat=543
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Really wish it would let me view that thread. Wont let me login to that link. Strange but that is probably what happened.
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Really wish it would let me view that thread. Wont let me login to that link.
Link leads to the Gallery. Same log on as the site. :ScrChin:
The link is this pic.
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/543/200CCP_Back_page.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=13825&title=200ccp-back-page&cat=543)