Aquasport Model Rebuilds, Mods, Updates and Refreshes => Osprey Style Hull Rebuilds => 165/170/175 Rebuilds => Topic started by: larsli68 on October 11, 2014, 11:33:44 AM
Title: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on October 11, 2014, 11:33:44 AM
I'm currently removing all the wood from my transom. Any ideas or help very much appreciated. I'm probably the only Aquasport 170 owner in Sweden. There might be more of us, I just don't know. My goal is to make the boat wood free, but I might only do the transom this year. The floor is OK. Picked up a brand new 2014 Mercury Optimax 115hp yesterday. My first brand new motor. I'm very excited (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data//712/IMG_20141011_171756.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=10512&title=img-20141011-171756&cat=712) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data//712/IMG_20141011_165820.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=10510&title=img-20141011-165820&cat=712)
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on October 11, 2014, 12:16:26 PM
Hi Lars, Sharp looking boat. Not sure I've seen decals placed on the sides like that though. We have a ton of members here with 170/175s. Are you using Seacast? I've never done the process but the few members that have were pleased when they did it themselves. You'll probably have to do separate pours to fill the side "wings", up the sides of the transom. That little boat ought to fly with a 115 on her - probably easily over 50mph with the new technology in today's motors.
I made a new members group for you to join - Sweden. You can do this via your user control panel. I think I included the instructions in the email I sent you.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: dburr on October 11, 2014, 07:05:39 PM
Lars how far along are you in the wood removal process?
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on October 12, 2014, 03:55:34 AM
I think I have past the half way mark in the wood removal. I will do some more drilling today. I also hope my brother can help me weld up some special tools to reach down deep. I plan to drill everything and then with a blade tool, break off what is still attached to the fiber glass. It's quite time consuming, but I have 7 months before I plan to be in the water again. I will pick away at it. I will post more pictures after today's efforts.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on October 12, 2014, 04:55:38 AM
The stripes on the sides have been removed. They were painted on... Quite a job to get them off. Used a paint stripper and a lot of wet sanding. I will do gel-coat repairs and polish it back to gloss. I have been in touch with Jack and his Carbon core product. I'm waiting for his shipping quote... I'm afraid it will be more expensive than the product itself... I want a non wood solution, since my boat sits in the water from April to October. Feels great to have this forum and group of guys to ask questions and read tons of very good information.
Thanks guys! /Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on October 12, 2014, 07:21:12 AM
Some guys use a chain saw to dig the wood out.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on October 12, 2014, 08:55:25 AM
I might give that a try. I have an electric chainsaw. I'm just a little scared of it... It will probably be needed to get the wood down at the bottom out. I think I have at least 2/3 of it out, but due to the hard to reach places, probably still not half way if you count the time. I'm picking away at it.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on October 12, 2014, 10:10:21 AM
Thanks Rick! That was a huge difference! The chainsaw did wonders! Since you are down in a pocket, it was not that scary either. My chainsaw was not long enough to reach all the way down, I will have to drill that out. The boat looks like a mess... I will do some cleaning this week before I take more pictures. Thanks for your support! Feels great not to be alone with a project like this.
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on October 12, 2014, 12:03:46 PM
Hello again. I went out and took some pictures of the transom job. 4 or 5 inches remains down at the bottom. I'm hoping to clear all of it by next weekend. (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data//712/IMG_20141012_175507.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=10514&title=img-20141012-175507&cat=712) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data//712/IMG_20141012_175450.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=10513&title=img-20141012-175450&cat=712)
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on October 12, 2014, 02:04:02 PM
Glad it worked out. :salut:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on October 13, 2014, 02:26:14 PM
I was at it for 4.5 hours yesterday. I would love to have a longer chainsaw. The one I have is just not long enough. Chainsaw is the way to go... I also plan to buy a longer 1" drill bit. The 3/4" I have does not reach all the way down either. I did a little tonight, but need better tools.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: flatbackpaul on October 13, 2014, 03:20:59 PM
I have been going round & round with EcoWolf about their installation of SeaCast. I had them (EcoWolf) install a SeaCast transom at their shop in Edgewater & they did a terrible job.
Words of advice. Make sure - 100% - that you get all the wood out, reinforce the cut-downs, fill the wings all the way, properly make skin repair and cap it properly. I have been in court with them for months and the latest time their attorney was claiming that the product was not warrantied at all. Fortunately I am not suing them because of the warranty rather their inability to install it properly, so the judge dismissed their Motion to Dismiss. We will have a trial within the next couple weeks.
Here's a take away - install it right and you wont have a problem. If you have a problem, their attorney will argue that there is no warranty despite all the representation of such on their website and probably in conversations with them. If you do it right - you're good to go.
By the way - nice boat.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on October 14, 2014, 01:42:26 AM
Thanks for the words of advice. I'm sorry to hear about your troubles. I hate it when you pay someone to do a job and they screw things up (they call themselves professionals). I had to take a couple of days off to rest my arms. I have an issue with my neck, that makes my arms numb if I over do it. I think I did on Sunday. I might rest tonight too. Getting all of it up is quite a job. I will not stop until everything is up. I have all winter (longer here in Sweden...) to do it. I hope things works out with your boat.
Thanks,
Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: Aquasport Commodore on October 14, 2014, 04:10:34 AM
Quote from: "larsli68"
I have all winter (longer here in Sweden...)
Keep at it, your doing great. As for the winter, you can keep that white stuff, I have a bad allergy to it :mrgreen: I'm moving to Cudjoe Key when I retire where it gets only in the 70's :pirat:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on October 14, 2014, 07:59:18 AM
Quote from: "86Aqua"
Quote from: "larsli68"
I have all winter (longer here in Sweden...)
Keep at it, your doing great. As for the winter, you can keep that white stuff, I have a bad allergy to it :mrgreen: I'm moving to Cudjoe Key when I retire where it gets only in the 70's :pirat:
Sounds like a plan for me too. My wife is from Louisville KY. I don't think she will ever quite accept the winters over here. I live 60 miles south of Stockholm, by the coast. Up north they have real winters. If we are lucky, we have snow on the ground for around 4-5 weeks, not more...
We usually go back to Raleigh NC for a week and a half in November each year. Very nice to leave Sweden at that time... :D
Thanks for your encouragement. I will pick away at the wood. Hope to get it all out in about a week.
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on October 14, 2014, 09:20:50 AM
Can you get a longer bar and chain for the saw?
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: gran398 on October 14, 2014, 11:19:56 AM
The wood at the bottom will be the softest/wettest. Try using a long machete to wedge between the glass and the wood and pop the soft stuff towards the center. Stick a shop vac down there. Or borrow a longer chain saw :mrgreen:
Glad you're going to Raleigh...if you'd like to see a restored Aquasport, give a call. I'm less than 2 hours from Raleigh....will take you guys for a spin! :thumright:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on October 14, 2014, 02:05:11 PM
Quote from: "gran398"
The wood at the bottom will be the softest/wettest. Try using a long machete to wedge between the glass and the wood and pop the soft stuff towards the center. Stick a shop vac down there. Or borrow a longer chain saw :mrgreen:
Glad you're going to Raleigh...if you'd like to see a restored Aquasport, give a call. I'm less than 2 hours from Raleigh....will take you guys for a spin! :thumright:
Thanks!
Once my arms are back in working order (hopefully tomorrow) I will continue to drill and carve out the wood. I checked for an extension sword for my saw, but the 40 cm was the longest available. I might go rent a saw this weekend. Tomorrow I will buy a drill extender, and see how far that will take me.
If we go towards the beach, I will let you know. I know we are meeting my wives brother and sister in law in Asheville NC the second weekend we are in town.
I love the boat. I'm wondering if I have the only Aquasport 170 in Sweden. Would be cool to know if there are more boats here. My brother has a 1984 Boston Whaler 17 Montauk. Very nice boat too. //Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on October 15, 2014, 05:43:19 AM
I'm very excited! I just found out that I can buy Seacast from Denmark. This means the cost has been cut in half, compared to buying it from the States. Now I just need to make sure I get all the wood out of the transom...
I have a question. I'm missing the backrest on my boat. I have the fiberglass box with the white slotted pieces on the side (to allow backrest to be either forwards or backwords) but I'm missing the backrest. Does anyone know if this can be bought new or does anyone know of a used one somewhere?
Thanks in advance,
Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on October 15, 2014, 06:06:22 AM
That's good news - saving money is always a good thing :salut: You may have to build a backrest out of teak or something similiar.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: dburr on October 15, 2014, 08:00:20 AM
Quote from: "larsli68"
I had to take a couple of days off to rest my arms. I have an issue with my neck, that makes my arms numb if I over do it.
Similar issue Lars, I went to an osteopath a bunch of years ago and after an adjustment and was given some stretching excercises and the problem went away. Scary as hell the first time my right hand went numb.. :pale:
Instead of going to a bigger sized drill can you just get an extension for what you have? The bigger the drill the greater the chance you have of poking a hole in the skin and that would be unfortunate. :oops:
Do you have access to some cheap chisels and a welding machine? You can make yourself some good cleanup tools for the deep hard to reach places. Pull the handle out of the chisel and weld a piece of round bar as an extension with a suitable bend in it for good edge contact and have at it! Think along the lines of a mini slick or socket firmers chisel.. :salut:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on October 15, 2014, 08:32:14 AM
Quote from: "dburr"
Quote from: "larsli68"
I had to take a couple of days off to rest my arms. I have an issue with my neck, that makes my arms numb if I over do it.
Similar issue Lars, I went to an osteopath a bunch of years ago and after an adjustment and was given some stretching excercises and the problem went away. Scary as hell the first time my right hand went numb.. :pale:
Instead of going to a bigger sized drill can you just get an extension for what you have? The bigger the drill the greater the chance you have of poking a hole in the skin and that would be unfortunate. :oops:
Do you have access to some cheap chisels and a welding machine? You can make yourself some good cleanup tools for the deep hard to reach places. Pull the handle out of the chisel and weld a piece of round bar as an extension with a suitable bend in it for good edge contact and have at it! Think along the lines of a mini slick or socket firmers chisel.. :salut:
My brother had a drill extension that I can borrow. I will follow your advice and convert an old chisel. I have one tool already made that has a little piece of metal as a spoon at the end. Good for digging up the wood that is already loose. I'm going back to the Naprapath on Friday. It feels a little bit better, but I need to do more stretching. My hand is still numb... Tonight I will calculate how much Seacast I need to order, and get it ordered from Denmark. I'm very happy to have found you guys. It would have felt very lonely taking on this project with no one to ask. The Seacast I would have never found without your all's help.
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on October 16, 2014, 03:21:05 PM
My arm is getting better. I have done quite a lot of stretching yesterday and today. I'm dying to get back to work on the boat. I hope to do some work on it on Saturday. I just want my arm to feel right. I have a question again... I need to buy new switches for the center console. I have access to eBay and I can off course go to West Marine in Raleigh in a couple of weeks. Does anyone know of good quality switches that are water proof and long lasting? I will be keeping my boat in the water for at least 6 months/year. I will have a cover over the center console, but I would like the switches to be bullet proof. I think 6-8 switches would do the job. Thanks for any advice.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: dburr on October 16, 2014, 04:21:38 PM
SeaBob to the Bat Phone please!!! :mrgreen:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on October 19, 2014, 12:01:18 PM
I have been at it again. The last 20% takes 80% of the time. I'm picking away at it, not giving up. (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data//500/IMG_20141019_175445.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=10561&title=img-20141019-175445&cat=500)
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on October 19, 2014, 06:31:03 PM
It'll be done soon - you're almost there :salut:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on October 19, 2014, 11:57:17 PM
Thanks Rick!
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on October 22, 2014, 02:35:55 PM
Quote from: "dburr"
SeaBob to the Bat Phone please!!! :mrgreen:
Thanks for the idea with the chisel! My brother has a tig welder and lives next door. He helped me weld the chisel to a piece of angle iron. It worked like a charm! I'm finally at the point were I feel I can do it!
Pictures of my tools and the progress on Saturday.
I never got the bat phone thing. Sorry.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: gran398 on October 22, 2014, 02:52:56 PM
Quote from: "larsli68"
Quote from: "dburr"
SeaBob to the Bat Phone please!!! :mrgreen:
Thanks for the idea with the chisel! My brother has a tig welder and lives next door. He helped me weld the chisel to a piece of angle iron. It worked like a charm! I'm finally at the point were I feel I can do it!
Pictures of my tools and the progress on Saturday.
I never got the bat phone thing. Sorry.
You were asking about high-grade switches, Seabob is a professional rigger.
Ergo "Seabob to the bat phone please" :mrgreen:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on October 22, 2014, 03:06:16 PM
Quote from: "gran398"
Quote from: "larsli68"
Quote from: "dburr"
SeaBob to the Bat Phone please!!! :mrgreen:
Thanks for the idea with the chisel! My brother has a tig welder and lives next door. He helped me weld the chisel to a piece of angle iron. It worked like a charm! I'm finally at the point were I feel I can do it!
Pictures of my tools and the progress on Saturday.
I never got the bat phone thing. Sorry.
You were asking about high-grade switches, Seabob is a professional rigger.
Ergo "Seabob to the bat phone please" :mrgreen:
OK, sorry for not catching that. I thought it was an internal joke here on this site. I'm very thankful for all the help you guys are giving me. The transom project is progressing just fine. I forgot to say that I took a thin walled 1" steel tube and mashed it in the vise to make it oval, and used duct tape to extend my shop vac hose. This worked like a charm, and I'm hoping to finish the wood removal this weekend. I'm going to the States on November 6th. Maybe I will pour the Seacast before, but probably after I get back. It all depends how things go.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: Capt. Bob on October 22, 2014, 03:12:16 PM
Quote from: "larsli68"
I thought it was an internal joke here on this site.
Lars, a lot of stuff posted here is an inside joke. Problem often arises when some members don't get it. :mrgreen:
Still that stated, here is a good place to start. https://www.bluesea.com/products/category/Switches (https://www.bluesea.com/products/category/Switches)
I think you'll find that these are a good quality switch but are not the only thing out there. Look through the different types and decide what type works for your needs and budget. I think you'll also find these come with good recommendations from those who use them.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: dburr on October 23, 2014, 07:32:13 AM
Quote from: "larsli68"
Quote from: "dburr"
SeaBob to the Bat Phone please!!! :mrgreen:
Thanks for the idea with the chisel! My brother has a tig welder and lives next door. He helped me weld the chisel to a piece of angle iron. It worked like a charm! I'm finally at the point were I feel I can do it!
Pictures of my tools and the progress on Saturday.
I never got the bat phone thing. Sorry.
Most excellent on the chisel extension! Rick and Lewis have both said that an air chisel is the way to go, and I was trying to work out how a wood chisel could be modded with an extension for the air driver to get all the way to the bilge.. The problem I came up with was the end that went in the driver needs to be really hard so it would not mushroom :scratch: . The air chisels are cheap at Harbor freight but the tools get pricey quick! The option I came up with was welding one of the cheapest tools (they have wicked hard steel) to the extension so the male end was able to go in the air driver. But you have it all goin on! :salut: :cheers:
We are mostly of the same vintage here, (sort of) and we all spent time as kids sittin in front of the TV at some point with our mouths hangin open watching Batman and Robin. If you have not seen vintage Batman, this will be your first ever CAS homework assignment assigned by one of the Brethren.. Get yourself one of your favorite cool and delicious cocktails, jump onto HULU, YouTube or what have you and watch an episode or two of the 1960's era Batman TV show.. All will become clear.
My apologies for forgetting that you have not been saturated with American Pop culture. We use all kinds of slang, innuendo (sp?) and references to stuff that may not be obvious. PLEASE do not take offense or think anyone is being a dink, just ask and someone will gladly fill in the back story.. The thread might hang a left for a while but all good threads do!! If we get to rambunctious Rick will square us away....:thumright: :thumleft:
Great work so far!
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on October 23, 2014, 08:55:46 AM
Quote from: "larsli68"
I have a question again... I need to buy new switches for the center console. I have access to eBay and I can off course go to West Marine in Raleigh in a couple of weeks. Does anyone know of good quality switches that are water proof and long lasting? I will be keeping my boat in the water for at least 6 months/year. I will have a cover over the center console, but I would like the switches to be bullet proof. I think 6-8 switches would do the job. Thanks for any advice.
What do you currently have now for a switch panel? What kind of switches do you have now? Pics would help us.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on October 23, 2014, 01:43:22 PM
Went at it again tonight. The wood on the port side is not as wet and a lot harder to remove, but I picked away at it and it is getting there. I'm also posting some pictures of my special tools. Long chisel, extended drill bit and extended shop vac hose.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: Aquasport Commodore on October 23, 2014, 09:56:14 PM
Looks good Lars, keep at it, there is a light at the end of the tunnel and it is not freight train.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: gran398 on October 23, 2014, 11:22:11 PM
Lars, you are getting a nice clean job. Keep taking your time.
Good work :salut:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on October 24, 2014, 12:15:48 AM
Thanks guys! I got some great news this morning. Since I'm probably the first Seacast customer in Europe, I'm getting two kits for free, paying only shipping. I will write an article for the Danish company who sells it, photo document how I'm doing it, and video tape when we actually pour the product. He also wants pictures of the special tools I have created for the job, so that he can produce and sell those. I have to admit, I'm quite excited!
Thanks for your kind words. It's still a ways off, but it's getting there.
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on October 24, 2014, 01:48:56 AM
Quote from: "RickK"
Quote from: "larsli68"
I have a question again... I need to buy new switches for the center console. I have access to eBay and I can off course go to West Marine in Raleigh in a couple of weeks. Does anyone know of good quality switches that are water proof and long lasting? I will be keeping my boat in the water for at least 6 months/year. I will have a cover over the center console, but I would like the switches to be bullet proof. I think 6-8 switches would do the job. Thanks for any advice.
What do you currently have now for a switch panel? What kind of switches do you have now? Pics would help us.
Hello Rick,
The old switch panel was badly corroded and I threw it away. I have been looking at the suggested panels. I can buy them here in Sweden, and they say IP67 which is waterproof to one meter (three feet). I think I will go with 6 switches. I'm restoring the center console. I will remove all the wood from the back and also fix some cut outs and screw holes, polish it before re-assemble. There is also a crack at the base. I'm thinking of replacing the plywood with fiber glass. Adds a little weight, but makes for a trouble free future. I hope to have this boat for many years. I really love my boat. //Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: slvrlng on October 24, 2014, 05:25:02 AM
Quote from: "larsli68"
Thanks guys! I got some great news this morning. Since I'm probably the first Seacast customer in Europe, I'm getting two kits for free, paying only shipping. I will write an article for the Danish company who sells it, photo document how I'm doing it, and video tape when we actually pour the product. He also wants pictures of the special tools I have created for the job, so that he can produce and sell those. I have to admit, I'm quite excited!//Lars
Now that is cool!!!!! :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on October 24, 2014, 05:37:58 AM
Quote from: "larsli68"
Thanks guys! I got some great news this morning. Since I'm probably the first Seacast customer in Europe, I'm getting two kits for free, paying only shipping. I will write an article for the Danish company who sells it, photo document how I'm doing it, and video tape when we actually pour the product. He also wants pictures of the special tools I have created for the job, so that he can produce and sell those. I have to admit, I'm quite excited!
Thanks for your kind words. It's still a ways off, but it's getting there.
//Lars
You can't beat that deal. :cheers:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on October 24, 2014, 06:03:11 AM
Quote from: "larsli68"
Hello Rick,
The old switch panel was badly corroded and I threw it away. I have been looking at the suggested panels. I can buy them here in Sweden, and they say IP67 which is waterproof to one meter (three feet). I think I will go with 6 switches.
I bought a 6 switch model also. I can't find the order to show you the product. I have the product out in the pile of things to install on the console and boat. :roll:
Quote from: "larsli68"
I'm restoring the center console. I will remove all the wood from the back and also fix some cut outs and screw holes, polish it before re-assemble.
If you have an air chisel you can peel that wood off the fiberglass very easily. I did the same with my console and then I decided to go wild and redesign mine.
Quote from: "larsli68"
There is also a crack at the base. I'm thinking of replacing the plywood with fiber glass. Adds a little weight, but makes for a trouble free future. I hope to have this boat for many years. I really love my boat. //Lars
Are you talking about the wood that is usually under the console between the console and the sole? Maybe you could make it out of starboard? I would overdrill and fill the holes that the console was screwed down to the sole - that's a great place for rot to start and until you redo the sole, it'll help prolong the need. Over drill the holes with a bigger drill size and then fill the holes with thickened resin (epoxy is the best - poly seems to shrink in the holes) - then redrill the holes for the console.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on October 24, 2014, 08:30:55 AM
Quote from: "RickK"
Quote from: "larsli68"
Hello Rick,
The old switch panel was badly corroded and I threw it away. I have been looking at the suggested panels. I can buy them here in Sweden, and they say IP67 which is waterproof to one meter (three feet). I think I will go with 6 switches.
I bought a 6 switch model also. I can't find the order to show you the product. I have the product out in the pile of things to install on the console and boat. :roll:
Quote from: "larsli68"
I'm restoring the center console. I will remove all the wood from the back and also fix some cut outs and screw holes, polish it before re-assemble.
If you have an air chisel you can peel that wood off the fiberglass very easily. I did the same with my console and then I decided to go wild and redesign mine.
Quote from: "larsli68"
There is also a crack at the base. I'm thinking of replacing the plywood with fiber glass. Adds a little weight, but makes for a trouble free future. I hope to have this boat for many years. I really love my boat. //Lars
Are you talking about the wood that is usually under the console between the console and the sole? Maybe you could make it out of starboard? I would overdrill and fill the holes that the console was screwed down to the sole - that's a great place for rot to start and until you redo the sole, it'll help prolong the need. Over drill the holes with a bigger drill size and then fill the holes with thickened resin (epoxy is the best - poly seems to shrink in the holes) - then redrill the holes for the console.
Thanks again Rick,
I will drill the holes and check for moisture. If the wood in the floor is wet, I plan to cut it out and replace it while I'm at it. If it is dry I will follow your advice. When I cut the wood floor, can I leave the coffin and the recessed area (steering hoses, fuel line etc) and just replace the floor around it?
I don't think there is wood in the coffin, is there?
Thanks guys! You are great help, and it feels great to have found you. This weekend I will post some pictures from my home town of Nyköping and the archipelago.
I'm super excited about getting my paws on some Seacast. I will only have to pay for shipping (100 bucks) from Denmark.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: dburr on October 24, 2014, 12:28:16 PM
Lars that was a stroke of damn GENIUOS using angle iron, WAY less prone to bend and with that lengh you can put some force on it..
If you need something wider, an old truck spring, with a little work makes for a good chisel.. The weight of the bigger blade makes all the difference. Just be SURE not to drop it on your foot!
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: gran398 on October 24, 2014, 12:42:27 PM
Quote from: "larsli68"
Quote from: "RickK"
Quote from: "larsli68"
Hello Rick,
The old switch panel was badly corroded and I threw it away. I have been looking at the suggested panels. I can buy them here in Sweden, and they say IP67 which is waterproof to one meter (three feet). I think I will go with 6 switches.
I bought a 6 switch model also. I can't find the order to show you the product. I have the product out in the pile of things to install on the console and boat. :roll:
Quote from: "larsli68"
I'm restoring the center console. I will remove all the wood from the back and also fix some cut outs and screw holes, polish it before re-assemble.
If you have an air chisel you can peel that wood off the fiberglass very easily. I did the same with my console and then I decided to go wild and redesign mine.
Quote from: "larsli68"
There is also a crack at the base. I'm thinking of replacing the plywood with fiber glass. Adds a little weight, but makes for a trouble free future. I hope to have this boat for many years. I really love my boat. //Lars
Are you talking about the wood that is usually under the console between the console and the sole? Maybe you could make it out of starboard? I would overdrill and fill the holes that the console was screwed down to the sole - that's a great place for rot to start and until you redo the sole, it'll help prolong the need. Over drill the holes with a bigger drill size and then fill the holes with thickened resin (epoxy is the best - poly seems to shrink in the holes) - then redrill the holes for the console.
Thanks again Rick,
I will drill the holes and check for moisture. If the wood in the floor is wet, I plan to cut it out and replace it while I'm at it. If it is dry I will follow your advice. When I cut the wood floor, can I leave the coffin and the recessed area (steering hoses, fuel line etc) and just replace the floor around it?
I don't think there is wood in the coffin, is there?
Thanks guys! You are great help, and it feels great to have found you. This weekend I will post some pictures from my home town of Nyköping and the archipelago.
I'm super excited about getting my paws on some Seacast. I will only have to pay for shipping (100 bucks) from Denmark.
Lars, re ordering the switches, if you want we can get whatever you want here, and get them to you when you get to Raleigh. Throw them in your suitcase on the return trip you'd be good to go :salut:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on October 24, 2014, 12:57:48 PM
Tomorrow Saturday I will go to a local fiberglass company. I went by there today after work, but he was busy working on a huge fiberglass hood. 10 feet tall and probably 6-7 feet diameter. I'm hoping he can help me do prefab floor sheets in Vinylester with a divinycell core. He thinks it's cool I do projects, and usually gives me a really good price.
Resting my arm tonight. Since I'm from the old world, I'm posting some pictures from the archipelago just off the coast of my home town. I know it's not restoration pics, but I hope it's OK. (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data//712/IMG_20140906_140522.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=10586&title=img-20140906-140522&cat=712)
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on October 24, 2014, 01:01:20 PM
Quote from: "dburr"
Lars that was a stroke of damn GENIUOS using angle iron, WAY less prone to bend and with that lengh you can put some force on it..
If you need something wider, an old truck spring, with a little work makes for a good chisel.. The weight of the bigger blade makes all the difference. Just be SURE not to drop it on your foot!
Thanks Dave,
Kind words. I think it was more the fact, I got my hands on the angle iron and thought it would nicely hold the chisel.
/Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: Aquasport Commodore on October 24, 2014, 02:13:31 PM
You can post any pics you want. And I must say your area is B E A U T I F U L to say the least. I wonder how the fishing is there?
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: dburr on October 24, 2014, 05:37:10 PM
The similarity to the Maine coast is a little freaky.....
Lars put up what you want man it's your thread!!!! As long as it is appropriate for a 13 year old kid to look at no one is gonna blink!!
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on October 25, 2014, 11:13:38 AM
Beautiful pics Lars. Is that you and your son on the lighthouse?
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on October 25, 2014, 12:52:47 PM
Quote from: "RickK"
Beautiful pics Lars. Is that you and your son on the lighthouse?
Thanks, no it's my brother and his son, my nephew. We live next door. I spend a lot of time with them.
I have been at it twice today. The port side is wood free! The starboard side has a little bit left, but I think about an hour tomorrow will take care of it.
I have another question... Does my stringers absorb water? The foam I mean. My boat is a 1981.
Thanks guys for keeping me company in my project! It's beer time here in Sweden now... ;)
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on October 25, 2014, 12:58:51 PM
Quote from: "dburr"
The similarity to the Maine coast is a little freaky.....
Lars put up what you want man it's your thread!!!! As long as it is appropriate for a 13 year old kid to look at no one is gonna blink!!
Thanks!
I have seen pictures of the Maine coast too, never been but would love to go. It looks a lot like Sweden, or the other way around...
It is a beautiful coast we have. Fishing is pretty good. Salmon, trout, bass, flounder, herring, cod along other things. No sharks on this side. The west coast (Gothenburg) has saltwater. We are brackish 0.5% salt here.
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on October 26, 2014, 11:54:32 AM
All the wood removed! I have to admit it feels almost unreal. I have some touch up to do to finish cleaning all the surfaces, but 98% of the wood is gone. I have one problem. I keep getting water in the deepest pocket of the transom. Down in the V. I can see foam down in there. Does this mean I have waterlogged stringers? The water does not come from above, since it reappear while I'm working. Some way I have to get the transom to dry, or I will not be able to pour the Seacast.
Any ideas would be very helpful.
Thanks,
Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: CLM65 on October 26, 2014, 12:34:41 PM
Good progress on the boat, Lars! I would say you probably have waterlogged stringers. You can try lowering the front of the boat so that the water doesn't migrate to the transom. That may allow you to complete the transom work...but then you will still need to deal with the stringers. One step at a time. The good news is that there are plenty of folks here to help you through it :salut:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on October 26, 2014, 12:59:30 PM
Quote from: "CLM65"
Good progress on the boat, Lars! I would say you probably have waterlogged stringers. You can try lowering the front of the boat so that the water doesn't migrate to the transom. That may allow you to complete the transom work...but then you will still need to deal with the stringers. One step at a time. The good news is that there are plenty of folks here to help you through it :salut:
I love this boat, no matter what she throws at me. I figured the water came from the stringers. When I cut the floor out, can I leave the coffin?
I will probably cut the floor out and remove the foam before I pour the Seacast, just to make sure it is nice and dry.
I still love this boat! Boats are a great hobby.
Thanks, Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on October 26, 2014, 03:12:12 PM
There is a great example of a rebuild going on in parallel with yours. His stringers were in good shape (probably like yours) so he was able to work with them. http://www.classicaquasport.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=12232 Like Craig said you'll need to pull all that wet foam out - many ways to do it.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on October 27, 2014, 04:02:06 PM
I'm starting to cut the floor out tomorrow. The stringers are full of water.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: Aquasport Commodore on October 27, 2014, 04:09:18 PM
If you can get your hands on it, get Nidacore honey comb type material. Wont rot ever, lighter than ply, works similar just put backers where you plan on attaching anything thru the deck (IE cooler seat, leaning post.) You could also glass the inside of the console to the floor to keep deck intrusions to a minimum, or put 90 deg attachments glassed to the floor and screw in sideways into them. I know in the states the cost is real close to that of ply and less work on waterproofing.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on October 27, 2014, 05:08:36 PM
Quote from: "Aquasport Commodore"
If you can get your hands on it, get Nidacore honey comb type material. Wont rot ever, lighter than ply, works similar just put backers where you plan on attaching anything thru the deck (IE cooler seat, leaning post.) You could also glass the inside of the console to the floor to keep deck intrusions to a minimum, or put 90 deg attachments glassed to the floor and screw in sideways into them. I know in the states the cost is real close to that of ply and less work on waterproofing.
Thanks for your advice Kevin. I will look for nidacore in Sweden. I managed to get hold of seacast from Denmark. I miss the States when it comes to the shopping. What you can't buy in the US usually don't exist or you don't need it... I will start cutting the floor out tomorrow. I hope to clean out the stringers this weekend, allowing for the boat to sit and dry out while we are in the US on vacation. Maybe I can bring sheets of nidacore back. Thanks for your support Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on October 28, 2014, 03:13:27 PM
I started cutting out the floor tonight. The floor is wet and the stringers are not waterlogged, but sure wet down at the bottom. The foam next to the stringer is wet at the bottom too. It feels good to remove everything that is wet. I hope to finish cutting the floor this weekend, allowing the boat to dry while I'm on vacation in the States. I hope to pour the Seacast before Christmas, and pre fab the floor, dry fit and then when the weather warms back up here in March, start building it up again.
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data//712/IMG_20141028_200016.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=10638&title=img-20141028-200016&cat=712) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data//712/IMG_20141028_200002.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=10637&title=img-20141028-200002&cat=712) Thanks for your support. I'm glad not to be alone in this. //Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: seabob4 on October 28, 2014, 03:19:56 PM
Quote from: "larsli68"
I managed to get hold of seacast from Denmark.
Lars
Leave it us Dane's! My last name, Christiansen...note the -sen... :wink:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on October 28, 2014, 03:29:27 PM
Quote from: "seabob4"
Quote from: "larsli68"
I managed to get hold of seacast from Denmark.
Lars
Leave it us Dane's! My last name, Christiansen...note the -sen... :wink:
Cool! In Sweden your last name would have been Christiansson. Two s and on at the end. I have a buddy at work who's dad is from Denmark. His name is Christoffersen.
The deck is saturated with water and weighs a ton. I'm glad to remove all the wet wood, even though the project has become quite a bit more than I originally planned... I have restored boats before and are not too worried. My brother restored a 6mR from 1939. He worked on it for 7 years. We sailed it this summer. Check out his blog at: http://silvervingen31.blogspot.se/ (http://silvervingen31.blogspot.se/) It's in English. //Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: seabob4 on October 28, 2014, 04:40:41 PM
My grandparents came over to the states from Copenhagen in 1914. They knew chit was about to hit the fan in Europe...
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on October 28, 2014, 05:54:53 PM
Quote from: "seabob4"
My grandparents came over to the states from Copenhagen in 1914. They knew chit was about to hit the fan in Europe...
No politics, but it is pretty bad in Europe now. Economy will not pick up. I hope the States can pull also Europe out of recession.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: Capt. Bob on October 28, 2014, 08:20:14 PM
What do ya know, my name's Berlin.
Note the lin. :?
I'm from Perrine Fla.(Ok so there's no L in Perrine) but rumor has it my family came to town on the Mayflower but I'm guessin' it was the moving van company rather than the ship :scratch: ............still...........
Here's a great thread on pouring a transom (if you haven't seen it already).
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: keysguy on October 28, 2014, 09:30:46 PM
Capt.Bob - You mean Palmetto Bay now..
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on October 29, 2014, 02:56:10 AM
Quote from: "Capt. Bob"
What do ya know, my name's Berlin.
Note the lin. :?
I'm from Perrine Fla.(Ok so there's no L in Perrine) but rumor has it my family came to town on the Mayflower but I'm guessin' it was the moving van company rather than the ship :scratch: ............still...........
Here's a great thread on pouring a transom (if you haven't seen it already).
Thanks Capt.Bob! The link was great. I have been looking for it, but not found it. Thanks! The floor and foam is coming out. I hope to finish cutting the floor before I leave on vacation next week. Would be great to come home to a dry boat.
Thanks again! //Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on October 29, 2014, 02:04:20 PM
I went by my local fiberglass factory today after work. He will let me glass the new floor panels in his factory end of this month! I'm happy for this, because this warm weather we have now will not stick around for much longer. Cutting the floor out tonight. Will post more pictures later.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on October 30, 2014, 01:03:29 PM
At least I'm making a good mess... Coffin and the rest of the floor came out tonight. I will continue with foam removal on Saturday. We have a Halloween party to go to tomorrow. Happy Halloween everyone! I'm starting to think I might convert my boat to an external gas tank. Several reasons for this. I don't have a gas station for miles from my mooring. I have to lug gas jugs anyway. I can use that space for storage. My gas tank is Aluminum and from 1981... Probably have seen it's best days.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: Capt. Bob on October 30, 2014, 01:26:45 PM
Quote from: "keysguy"
Capt.Bob - You mean Palmetto Bay now..
It will always be Perrine to me. Whether incorporated or not. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: Aquasport Commodore on October 30, 2014, 04:03:24 PM
You could always go with a tank like this one and it is a 35 gal. Vent on one end and fill draw at other. Low profile and will fit between the stringers. Use the console for batteries and storage. Heck put in the side storage compartments in/on the console. Heck even run the fill up into the console and not over to the cap. (http://i1037.photobucket.com/albums/a459/86aqua/1972%20Aquasport%2022-2/20140630_201426_zpst7xn8djk.jpg)
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on October 30, 2014, 04:12:00 PM
Quote from: "Aquasport Commodore"
You could always go with a tank like this one and it is a 35 gal. Vent on one end and fill draw at other. Low profile and will fit between the stringers. Use the console for batteries and storage. Heck put in the side storage compartments in/on the console. Heck even run the fill up into the console and not over to the cap. (http://i1037.photobucket.com/albums/a459/86aqua/1972%20Aquasport%2022-2/20140630_201426_zpst7xn8djk.jpg)
That's a good idea. What brand is tank? I just don't feel good about putting the alu tank back in.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: Aquasport Commodore on October 30, 2014, 04:20:38 PM
Its a Moeller Marine, here is a 32 gal tank and the drawings for measurements for precise fit. Remember to leave a little space (Approx 2% for expansion after 1st fill) http://www.moellermarine.com/sites/moel ... 231-R2.pdf (http://www.moellermarine.com/sites/moellermarine/files/FT3231-R2.pdf) Here is the 35 in the photo above http://www.moellermarine.com/sites/moel ... 231-R2.pdf (http://www.moellermarine.com/sites/moellermarine/files/FT3231-R2.pdf)
I like and am a big fan of the vent on one end and draw on the other this way you can angle the tank up, get it almost full and have access to all the fuel as it goes back to the draw.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: slvrlng on October 31, 2014, 08:48:00 AM
Hey Lars, before you pour the seacast make sure and reinforce the skins on the transom. More than a few pours have bowed out the inside skin especially. They don't have to be permanent just until the material cures. You want them to act as stiffeners.
Boat is looking good and can't wait to see more progress. I have a friend that lives in Vaxjo, I bet you can't guess what his first name is! :cheers: :cheers:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on October 31, 2014, 12:28:25 PM
Quote from: "slvrlng"
Hey Lars, before you pour the seacast make sure and reinforce the skins on the transom. More than a few pours have bowed out the inside skin especially. They don't have to be permanent just until the material cures. You want them to act as stiffeners.
Boat is looking good and can't wait to see more progress. I have a friend that lives in Vaxjo, I bet you can't guess what his first name is! :cheers: :cheers:
That is cool. Växjö is 2.5 hour drive from here. I'm one hour drive south of Stockholm. Right on the Baltic. Tonight I cut the stringers open and pried out the wet foam. About mid ship on the port side, the foam smelled like gasoline... Not fun. I'm glad I'm not a smoker... I will post more pictures tomorrow when I have finished vacuuming the inside of the hull. Is your friends name Lars by any chance? I think we are 5 or 6 Lars at Schneider Electric, where I work.
Thanks for letting me know about reinforcement before pouring the Seacast. I will prepare and post pictures before I pour. All I wanted now was to remove anything wet before I go on 1.5 weeks vacation to the States. That way the boat can sit and dry until we get back. The Seacast is sitting in my shed (heated shed) now.
I'm very excited that I found an Aquasport 170 here in Sweden. I wonder how many there can be here. I don't think I have ever seen another one.
Happy Halloween! We are going to a party tonight. I hate costume parties, but I have to go... I'm putting on a wig. I will have the worst costume at the party... I don't care... ;)
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on November 02, 2014, 10:06:33 AM
I have kept digging out the foam this weekend. I bet my neighbors love to hear my screaming AEG shop vac... (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data//712/IMG_20141102_155106.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=10680&title=img-20141102-155106&cat=712) I have some move vacuuming to do before we have 1.5 week vacation. The boat will sit and dry out while we are gone. It feels good to have removed all the wet foam. //Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on November 02, 2014, 04:01:45 PM
Coming right along there Lars :salut: So what is your plan to compensate for the thickness of the floor? I assume you'll lay your floor on top of the lip around the perimeter. Now that you have the stringers opened up you can build up the sides of the stringers 3/4", foam them, cut the foam level with the new height and then glass over the top. Not much expense incurred this way. Or you could recap the stringers, foam them and then add some resin soaked wood or some Plascore type material to build it up the necessary height. Where did your console sit in respect to the stringers? Were the screws around the perimeter lining up with the stringers? If so, you might want to add something that a screw can bite into, under the console. If they don't line up, I would back the sole material with something for the screws to hit. If you are going to use composite like Plascore or Nidacore for the sole remember that a screw will not bite into it. Plan ahead.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on November 03, 2014, 02:39:07 AM
Quote from: "RickK"
Coming right along there Lars :salut: So what is your plan to compensate for the thickness of the floor? I assume you'll lay your floor on top of the lip around the perimeter. Now that you have the stringers opened up you can build up the sides of the stringers 3/4", foam them, cut the foam level with the new height and then glass over the top. Not much expense incurred this way. Or you could recap the stringers, foam them and then add some resin soaked wood or some Plascore type material to build it up the necessary height. Where did your console sit in respect to the stringers? Were the screws around the perimeter lining up with the stringers? If so, you might want to add something that a screw can bite into, under the console. If they don't line up, I would back the sole material with something for the screws to hit. If you are going to use composite like Plascore or Nidacore for the sole remember that a screw will not bite into it. Plan ahead.
Thanks Rick!
About the foam in the stringers? Is it possible to re-in-force the stringers and not use foam? If I use foam, what kind is water proof? I plan to have an external tank in my boat. I have my boat in a mooring off the coast, with no gas station for miles. See picture. (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data//712/IMG_20141013_171448.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=10690&title=img-20141013-171448&cat=712) My plan is to install the floor in three sections. Introduce two or three stringers perpendicular to the two long ones. Make sure the floor joint is on top of those stringers. I would love to remove all foam from my boat if possible, or at least know for a fact I'm not getting water in them. My boat will be launched in April and taken up sometime in October/November depending on the weather. What do you think I need to do to have foam free design?
Thanks,
Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on November 03, 2014, 05:19:19 AM
The newer foams are "Closed cell" and don't absorb water. The foam will reinforce the stringers. Putting "bulkheads" in will stiffen up the boat. :thumleft: My boat had the fuel tank inside the console above the sole. 25 gals. I bought a poly tank and am moving it under the sole to free up the space inside the console for storage, which the boat painfully lacked. I'm moving the batteries and pumps into the console. Maybe you could leave the tank under the sole and use one of these to bring gas to the boat. http://www.cabelas.com/product/Moeller-reg-DuraMAX-Portable-Fuel-Tank/700804.uts?productVariantId=1206280&srccode=cii_17588969&cpncode=27-373103094-2&WT.tsrc=CSE&WT.mc_id=GoogleProductAds&WT.z_mc_id1=00048616&rid=20 I think you'll always regret having to step around a portable tank if you do decide to go that route.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on November 03, 2014, 08:16:21 AM
Quote from: "RickK"
The newer foams are "Closed cell" and don't absorb water. The foam will reinforce the stringers. Putting "bulkheads" in will stiffen up the boat. :thumleft: My boat had the fuel tank inside the console above the sole. 25 gals. I bought a poly tank and am moving it under the sole to free up the space inside the console for storage, which the boat painfully lacked. I'm moving the batteries and pumps into the console. Maybe you could leave the tank under the sole and use one of these to bring gas to the boat. http://www.cabelas.com/product/Moeller-reg-DuraMAX-Portable-Fuel-Tank/700804.uts?productVariantId=1206280&srccode=cii_17588969&cpncode=27-373103094-2&WT.tsrc=CSE&WT.mc_id=GoogleProductAds&WT.z_mc_id1=00048616&rid=20 I think you'll always regret having to step around a portable tank if you do decide to go that route.
I hear what you are saying. I found a plastic gas tank here in Sweden that will give me about 15 gallons of fuel. A built in tank. I think what I will do is go with a built in tank that can easily be removed for service/replacement. Bulkhead was the word I was looking for. I will do a design and check with you what you think. I'm thinking of building the deck in three pieces. Tonight I plan to remove the last little bit of foam and then let the boat sit and dry while we are in the States on vacation. I will investigate if I can get hold of foam here in Sweden. I hope it will not cause a problem.
Thanks for helping me along in the project.
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: Aquasport Commodore on November 03, 2014, 05:09:29 PM
www.uscomposites.com (http://www.uscomposites.com) Is a place on the web that sells the stuff. If anything you can use the site for a reference.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on November 03, 2014, 07:42:11 PM
Lars, whatever you do, you want to make the boat as watertight topside as you can. Meaning, you don't water getting into the bilge from the topside. You want that water exiting the deck without going into the bilge. That is my goal during my rebuild.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: gran398 on November 03, 2014, 11:01:13 PM
Quote from: "RickK"
Lars, whatever you do, you want to make the boat as watertight topside as you can. Meaning, you don't water getting into the bilge from the topside. You want that water exiting the deck without going into the bilge. That is my goal during my rebuild.
Lars, in order to accomplish this, place a slight crown in the deck, draining from the console to the sides.
Slight....1/8ths inch of fall centerline per side is all you'll need. Then of course higher at the bow to assure water flow to the stern at rest.
You'll need a fat 3/8ths inch fall bow to stern. Get her level in the yard....then plan accordingly.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on November 04, 2014, 03:21:06 AM
Thanks guys!
Great input. I will also try to make my boat as watertight as possible. One of the problems on my boat was that the fuel filler was moved to the box in front of the console. This meant the guy had just left the hole open where the fuel filler port used to be... The starboard side foam was super wet. At least my boat can now sit and dry out for two weeks while I'm on vacation. Someone had also drilled holes in the deck in front of the transom... Allowing water to enter the bilge... Is the angle of the deck OK stock? I thought of putting the new deck on top of the lip (after cutting the old deck out). I will run a Merc Optimax 115hp on the boat, 170kg or 375lb. It will be fun to start building again. Not just tearing the boat apart. But the winter is long here, I have until April/May before it's boating season again... //Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on November 22, 2014, 02:24:17 PM
I'm back in Sweden again after a very nice trip to NC. I did manage to go down to Wilmington on Wednesday last week. Sunshine and 74 degrees, like summer in Sweden... I drilled a test hole in my center stringer today... Black wet wood came up... I decided to remove all the wet wood from the stringer, and almost finished. I will do the last little bit tomorrow. (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data//712/IMG_20141122_145219.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=10824&title=img-20141122-145219&cat=712) I want to make the boat right. I have a couple of questions. Recommended core material for my new floor? Transom, is it a bad idea to make my transom look more like on a 175? will you guys stop talking to me? Wood is not an option for me, since my boat will sit in the water from April to end of October. I still love my boat, even when she throws curve balls at me... ;) I'm determined to get it right. I'm currently creating a 3D model of the floor and center console and gas tank in SolidWorks. My plan is to try to finish a design before I start rebuilding the boat. I will post some pictures of my designs if you guys want to see.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on November 22, 2014, 03:16:03 PM
Hi Lars, glad you had a nice vacation. The main thing about the transom is that it must match your motor, which is usually a 20" transom - from the bottom of the keel to the top of the transom. Other than that you can do whatever you want with it. You have to keep in mind that when you tilt the motor all the way up, it must have room for the steering to clear initially and as it tilts up. As for non-wood - remember that unless you use the heaviest grade of the "solid" composites, it won't hold a screw. If you use the honeycomb type (like I did) then you need to plan every hole and over drill and fill with thickened resin - epoxy is best for this since it cures without cracking, like poly does. If you are going to eventually have a t-top, plan reinforcements under or in the composite for securing it.
PS - we will always talk to you - it is your boat and you can do whatever you desire to it. We all have opinions and of course you've heard that saying.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: Aquasport Commodore on November 22, 2014, 03:38:25 PM
What Rick said. Also you can lay your deck out and find out where everything will fall. In that area, you can install different material in the core and then glass it all in.
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*Edited* this way you can screw items into it and have the screws hold without having to do all the work required for honeycomb type material.*Edited*
I am a big proponent of the Honeycomb material as it is very light and strong when done. You have a small deck so you don't need a lot of material as we bigger boats do. That is a plus.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on November 23, 2014, 01:40:52 AM
Here is a picture of the deck and center console. I will add more detail, but I have not been designing for almost 10 years... It takes me a while to get up to speed again. My goal is to have a deck that is easy to clean. I want to run the steering and gas lines and cables underneath the deck, not in a groove like it was when I bought the boat. This is because I have the boat in the water all summer long, and I want it to be easy to clean. (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data//500/Assem1.JPG) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=10825&title=assem1&cat=500) I will draw a design of a proposed transom. I would like for you guys to comment before I set about changing it. Thanks again for your support!
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on November 25, 2014, 01:26:08 PM
I bought a tank today. It is almost 12 inches tall with the filler tube. The stringer will be only 1.5 inch tall for it to fit under the deck. I will return it and buy a tank that is 3 inches lower, and at the same time 2 gallons bigger. I'm posting a picture I took with my phone this afternoon. The last bit of sunlight in our harbor here in Nykoping. (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data//500/IMG_20141125_144824-PANO.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=10832&title=img-20141125-144824-pano&cat=500)
Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: Aquasport Commodore on November 26, 2014, 12:58:01 AM
Since you have the deck off, can you just raise it and use the it? Anyways, what a beautiful area you live in. You are really lucky. But you can keep the white wet cold stuff. I hate that stuff :mrgreen:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on November 27, 2014, 01:11:31 AM
Quote from: "Aquasport Commodore"
Since you have the deck off, can you just raise it and use the it? Anyways, what a beautiful area you live in. You are really lucky. But you can keep the white wet cold stuff. I hate that stuff :mrgreen:
Thanks!
Yesterday the weather was not quite as beautiful. Foggy and 35 degrees... No snow yet. I hope it takes a while before we get snow.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on December 03, 2014, 02:51:30 PM
33 degrees F here in Sweden. Long johns and three layers to cope with the cold. I finished removing the old stringer and cleaned the transom from more wood. I met with the owner to the fiber glass company today. He will let me use his steel table to make my new floor. Core material will be diviny cell and I plan to do it at Christmas break. That gives me time to finish the pattern for the floor and also where to put the reinforcements for screws etc. I plan to change the transom slightly when pouring the sea cast. Weather permitting, I might have a go at it this weekend. I have to double layer my tent and get a big enough heater in there to be able to do it. I will keep you guys posted.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: Capt. Bob on December 03, 2014, 09:27:10 PM
Lookin' good Lars. :thumright:
Never poured a transom but we have had a couple three posted on the Forum.
What I managed to take away from them is this.....
An extra set of hands helps a lot. :idea:
You can't over re-enforce the bracing of the transom mold. :!: :!: :!: Do as much as you think is enough and add a little more.
Again, no experience, just what I've read.
Good luck. :thumleft:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: gran398 on December 03, 2014, 09:55:01 PM
Quote from: "Capt. Bob"
Lookin' good Lars. :thumright:
Never poured a transom but we have had a couple three posted on the Forum.
What I managed to take away from them is this.....
An extra set of hands helps a lot. :idea:
You can't over re-enforce the bracing of the transom mold. :!: :!: :!: Do as much as you think is enough and add a little more.
Again, no experience, just what I've read.
Good luck. :thumleft:
CB is spot-on.
Good luck :thumleft:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on December 04, 2014, 05:24:30 AM
Hi Lars, the summer is over it seems :( Since the pouring material is a liquid (maybe not at 33 degrees :wink: ) it will self level. So I see at least 3 pours in your future. You'll have to make several "dams" as the transom transitions higher and higher to be able to pour them too and you won't be able to do it all at the same time unless you "cap" the lower parts. Have you received good detailed instructions on how to do the pour and how to join the multiple pours from the mfr? One more thing that I remember happening to some members that did this was that the material would find any leaks in the mold and sneak out. Look in the corners where the transom goes behind the liner and make sure that is sealed up and won't leak out behind the liner. Also look around the drain plug tube (good time to replace that if it is still original) and tape it off on both sides and look all along the inner skin where it connects to the hull. I wish I could remember the company that is the #1 seller of Seacast and uses it to make not only transoms but stringers, floors, all kinds of stuff. It would be nice to pick their brains. They are in the upper midwest of the USA.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: Aquasport Commodore on December 04, 2014, 07:57:29 AM
You might want to make your transom inside corners a little more rounded as it will help with laying glass later. Looking good. Seacast has those square plugs to put in your transom area to hold the skin open for the pour.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: Capt. Bob on December 04, 2014, 09:02:51 AM
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on December 04, 2014, 10:59:41 AM
Thanks guys. The weather is not really cooperating here... 36 degrees tonight. No heatwave in other words. I have sea cast material that I can glue in ahead of time. I will also have to seal up the holes before the actual pour. It doesn't look good for Saturday. I will post some more pictures after my work tonight. Long johns required here...
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on December 06, 2014, 10:08:12 AM
Did a bit of work today. Cold and wet and pretty nasty weather here in Sweden. I had to force myself to go out... Fitted the inside plywood today and prepared the filler funnel for the big pour. Also created a double skin on my tent to help heating it for a pour, hopefully next weekend. I also cut pieces of the seacast material to keep the thickness of the transom when applying the clamps. (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data//500/IMG_20141206_155740.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=10897&title=img-20141206-155740&cat=500)
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on December 06, 2014, 05:28:41 PM
Good planning Lars :salut: The weight of the pour can do some unpredictable stuff so clamp and wedge it wherever to prevent an unexpected result.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on December 07, 2014, 01:45:56 AM
Quote from: "RickK"
Good planning Lars :salut: The weight of the pour can do some unpredictable stuff so clamp and wedge it wherever to prevent an unexpected result.
Thanks Rick,
I will continue today with more strengthening of the transom. The weather here is cold and wet... I hope no rain today. It's just hard to motivate yourself to go out when the weather is like this... My brother has two 2000 watt heaters that I hope will increase the temperature in the tent to 65 degrees for the pour.
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on December 09, 2014, 03:16:37 PM
I glued pieces of Seacast in the transom tonight. Two heaters working hard to keep the tent warm... I envy you guys who live in Florida. (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data//500/IMG_20141209_211049.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=10941&title=img-20141209-211049&cat=500) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data//500/IMG_20141209_211043.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=10940&title=img-20141209-211043&cat=500) If the weather permits, I hope to pour on Saturday. Time will tell.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on December 18, 2014, 01:32:22 PM
After discussing with Jeff at Invision Boatworks, I decided to wait. Great guy with a lot of knowledge of Seacast. The weather here is cold and wet, and I don't want to risk not getting a good pour, and good bond on the Seacast. I will have to wait until March most likely to do the pour. I'm also contemplating staying original or making the transom taller??? Any advice appreciated.
During Christmas break I plan to make my new floor and finalize the design of the transom.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on December 18, 2014, 01:42:09 PM
I think that is a very wise decision Lars. You'd hate yourself if it went south on you and you had to chip it all away.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: flatbackpaul on December 18, 2014, 02:38:57 PM
chipping it away is a B!TCH. Take my word for it.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on December 19, 2014, 01:38:15 AM
I bet trying to get the Seacast out again would be a true bitch... I will prepare even better (advice from Jeff) and close the transom as much as possible with glass. This to prevent leaks when I do the actual pour. Grinding is only a bitch to my neighbors... but something I can do even if it's cold out. I will take some pictures tomorrow in the daylight. The sun sets at 3PM here... By 3:30 it's pitch dark. In the summer we are paid back, with daylight until 11PM at night instead, and dusk until midnight. Lot's of time to do boating in other words...
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: flatbackpaul on December 19, 2014, 09:59:10 AM
Jeff is a solid guy and knows more about the product than anyone.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on December 20, 2014, 12:25:16 AM
Quote from: "flatbackpaul"
Jeff is a solid guy and knows more about the product than anyone.
Yes, he is. I'm glad Rick suggested me to call him. He really knows what he is talking about. Great guy to talk to too.
I got some great news yesterday! I get to bring my boat to the fiber glass company for 1.5 weeks during Christmas. They are interested to check out Seacast, and I get some professional help with my deck!
I have to admit it felt like early Christmas for me yesterday!
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on December 20, 2014, 06:39:31 AM
That's cool - so the boat will be indoors where it is warm? Are they going to watch you do the pour?
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on December 20, 2014, 07:01:06 AM
Quote from: "RickK"
That's cool - so the boat will be indoors where it is warm? Are they going to watch you do the pour?
Yes, there is a retired guy that works there part time that has been working on boats for over 40 years. He is interested in the Seacast and will help me even! I'm working on the boat right now. Prying off the dry rotted and partially wet plywood from my hatch covers. It is pretty warm here for the season. 42 degrees here today!
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on December 20, 2014, 07:07:00 AM
If you were using epoxy you could mix a batch and it might kick off next spring :lol: That's quite a deal to get some free help and a place to do it. You should have bought a lottery ticket yesterday :D
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on December 20, 2014, 07:47:20 AM
I know, I should have. It was the best Christmas present I could have gotten. I'm done using the grinder and flap disc and my orbital sander to clean the bottom side of the covers. It feels unbelievable good to get the boat in a nice warm shop, even if it's only for 1.5 or two weeks. I will do my best during that time. My family needs some of my time too... ;)
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on December 21, 2014, 04:48:25 AM
Preparations to take the boat to a warm shop tomorrow! Feels great! Transom is temporarily patched to prevent the seacast from leaking.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: dburr on December 21, 2014, 04:54:33 PM
That stern Lars looks like it got in front of an irate farmer with a shotgun full of 00 buckshot! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Good deal on the shop, nothing like working warm this time of year! :thumright: :thumleft:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on December 22, 2014, 10:48:34 AM
It sure does Dave. The holes are just patched to prevent the seacast from leaking. I spent a fun day today in a nice and warm shop. Air tools and vacuum cleaners makes a world of difference. I'm very grateful to be able to spend a couple of weeks inside with my project. Posting a couple of pictures from this afternoon.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: flatbackpaul on December 22, 2014, 11:36:01 AM
if the guy who is interested in learning what happens when SeaCast is not installed properly, please ask him to contact me. It's important to know what can happen if someone shortcuts the process.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on December 22, 2014, 04:28:44 PM
Looks nice and toasty Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on December 23, 2014, 10:50:51 AM
It's awesome. I'm looking forward to at least two weeks in the nice and warm shop. I did my first fiberglass work today on the transom. I was so excited I forgot to take pictures. Now two days off for Christmas, and going back to the shop on Friday morning. Friday I will apply gelcoat to the table and then start work laying up the floor. I hope to be able to go in Saturday too and continue. I have today sanded the top 4 inches of the transom. from the inside I have sanded and made the tip of the transom thin as a paper. On the outside I have fitted pieces of polycarbonate to have something to glass against. I'm sticking with stock look on transom. Maybe raising the edges with half an inch, but the look will be stock. It feels great to sand and remove all the remains of the wood. The top four inches of the transom are as clean as fiberglass can get. Merry Christmas everyone!
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on December 23, 2014, 10:58:18 AM
Try to remember to take pix Lars :lol: Merry Christmas to you too.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on December 24, 2014, 07:58:25 AM
Will take pictures on Friday. I have to admit it's itching to continue on the boat, but I better stay home for Christmas. ;) It felt great to lay the first glass yesterday. A lot of preparations before you actually lay the fiberglass. I'm now hopeful to launch in May or June.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on December 24, 2014, 08:20:48 AM
Quote from: "larsli68"
Will take pictures on Friday. I have to admit it's itching to continue on the boat, but I better stay home for Christmas. ;) It felt great to lay the first glass yesterday. A lot of preparations before you actually lay the fiberglass.
Sure is.
Quote from: "larsli68"
I'm now hopeful to launch in May or June.
I've said that once (or twice) :wink:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: dburr on December 24, 2014, 09:37:41 AM
Lars as bad as you've been bit by the bug, keep the Big Boss happy! She may let you think otherwise, but she is the CFO and Operations manager of the project and if you get out of square on your time management she may impose heavy penalties! :shock: :oops: :oops: :mrgreen: !!
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on December 25, 2014, 04:18:27 AM
Yes, you are both right. Rick, I probably jinxed it when I said May or June... Ain't mama happy ain't nobody happy. Today a Christmas day drive and enjoy the sunshine and the 1/4" of snow that fell last night. No shoveling snow at least, and the boat is in a nice warm and dry shop! And I will be there tomorrow morning at 7AM!
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on December 26, 2014, 06:36:15 AM
Finally Friday and 5 hours in the shop. Finished glassing the transom sides. Prepared the table with gel coat to be able to start with the floor tomorrow. I also prepared a fiberglass strip to cover the tops of my stringers. I got quite a lot done today. Managed to take a couple of pictures too. Forgot to take a picture of the gelcoated table. Will do that tomorrow. (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data//500/IMG_20141226_073030.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=11011&title=img-20141226-073030&cat=500) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data//500/IMG_20141226_080525.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=11012&title=img-20141226-080525&cat=500) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data//500/IMG_20141226_104204.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=11013&title=img-20141226-104204&cat=500)
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on December 27, 2014, 11:02:12 AM
Laminated the floor today. Also did some cleanup on the transom. Prepared the stringers for fiber glassing tomorrow. A good day. Feels great to have the floor laminated! The Seacast pour will hopefully happen on Tuesday or Wednesday.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on December 27, 2014, 11:51:09 AM
Nice job Lars. :salut: Real nice to have the tables and area to do this.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on December 27, 2014, 11:56:27 PM
It is unbelievable to get this opportunity. I'm very grateful. I'm also learning a lot from an retired guy that works extra at the place. Stringers today and more... Getting the floor laminated yesterday felt really great.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on December 29, 2014, 12:17:30 AM
Glassed my stringers yesterday. It is 6:15 AM here and I'm preparing to go to "work" on the boat.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on December 29, 2014, 04:45:53 AM
Are you going to foam the stringers?
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on December 29, 2014, 08:33:51 AM
Quote from: "RickK"
Are you going to foam the stringers?
I don't think so. They are now strengthen with 3 layers of 600g/m2 fiberglass. Do you think I have to? They are strong and don't budge when I stand on them.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on December 29, 2014, 09:43:33 AM
At this point it is more for flotation. Are you planning filling the outsides of the stringers with foam (like it was originally)? You said it was going to stay in the water, right? Might be a good thing. If it was going to live on a trailer and when out on the water you were in it, you knew it was safe and would not sink (of course unless you hit a submerged "something"). I foamed my stringers just in case. And I am not planning on foaming the outsides of my stringers. Boat is living on a trailer. It took 1.5 gals of part A and B to do the stringers. My $.02
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: gran398 on December 29, 2014, 11:14:45 AM
You guys may consider doing what we did and lay block foam outside the stringers. Inexpensive, adds flotation, and deadens hull slap.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on December 29, 2014, 11:49:25 AM
Quote from: "RickK"
At this point it is more for flotation. Are you planning filling the outsides of the stringers with foam (like it was originally)? You said it was going to stay in the water, right? Might be a good thing. If it was going to live on a trailer and when out on the water you were in it, you knew it was safe and would not sink (of course unless you hit a submerged "something"). I foamed my stringers just in case. And I am not planning on foaming the outsides of my stringers. Boat is living on a trailer. It took 1.5 gals of part A and B to do the stringers. My $.02
I might foam the stringers, but the guy at the shop being my mentor thinks it's not necessary... I wouldn't mind but my boat will be in less than 2 feet of water at my dock. I also plan to use two bilge pumps. One with a sensor always on and one that I can start with a button on my panel. Today I glassed the underside of my hatch covers with that 600g/M2 fiberglass and added a 1/2 inch divinycell core to the laminate. I will finish them tomorrow. I also plan to fix the new gas tank tomorrow, and hopefully do the Seacast tomorrow! It will be a long and exciting day!
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on December 29, 2014, 02:43:39 PM
Just more piece of mind than anything - If the stringers are stout you could probably get away without it since the foam does not add structure.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on December 30, 2014, 08:37:29 AM
Poured the transom today! It went really well. I have to admit it feels like a million bucks to have this job behind me. Thanks to everyone in this forum that has given advice and support. Thanks also to Jeff in Michigan who spent almost an hour on the phone with me giving great advice. I also glassed the hatch covers, fitted a duct for the engine controls. (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data//500/IMG_20141230_135905.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=11065&title=img-20141230-135905&cat=500)
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: Georgie on December 30, 2014, 09:19:11 AM
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Just more piece of mind than anything - If the stringers are stout you could probably get away without it since the foam does not add structure
This is not true, Rick. I don't typically like to make contradictory "call out" posts, and that's not my intent here, but this is a critical detail. :| While the trapezoidal stringers do have their own geometric strength, the foam inside is structural because it greatly reduces "compressibility" of the fiberglass and thereby helps them retain their shape and prevent buckling in the case of impact or a really bad wave.
This journal article briefly mentions the increased load capability for foam filled structures: https://books.google.com/books?id=5YkMGtdsVuwC&pg=PA1017&lpg=PA1017&dq=hollow+vs+foam+filled+stringers+strength&source=bl&ots=Az2bm5P282&sig=EoYwmTDdSkYysvRLwEn-3Dc31kk&hl=en&sa=X&ei=g7GiVJ3AE4KvggT7oYPQDA&ved=0CB4Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=hollow%20vs%20foam%20filled%20stringers%20strength&f=false
Perhaps remember the surfboard analogy mentioned a couple years back on one or more rebuild threads?...or an alternative analogy - would you ever mount an engine to a two inch thick but hollow transom? (yes I know the forces being applied differ, but the priniciple is the same)
Lars, the foam in the stringers actually does not help with buoyancy unless the airlock within the stringer itself is breached and the boat is already taking on water, but it is assuredly critical to maximize the engineered strength of the build. I strongly recommend you not skip this step. :salut:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on December 30, 2014, 10:42:58 AM
Thanks Georgie, glad I did foam mine then :icon_salut:
Lars, the transom looks great :icon_cheers: A question though, is that pipe for your shifting/throttle and engine controls? Did you try to feed them through that sweep already? I think there might be a problem making it through that 90. I have 3" pipe anywhere the pipe makes a bend and 45s and it was tough to get the shifting and throttle through even with a 45.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on December 30, 2014, 11:16:01 AM
I will double check tomorrow regarding the bend radii on the throttle cable and shifter. I have the cables and will test. Good point, thanks. The transom looks a bit spotty still, but I'm tickled to death over the result! It feels super strong already. I bet it will be the strongest transom in Sweden! I added two layers of fiberglass 600g/m2 on the inside of the hull of the stringers, before closing them up. I might still foam the stringers.
The pipe bend I used is called a long bend. If I can't get the cables though, I will cut the inside radius and straighten it out with fiberglass. I will make it work. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: CLM65 on December 30, 2014, 09:00:17 PM
I fully agree with Ryan on the foam within the stringers, and will go a step further to recommend 4# density foam instead of 2#. 2# is quite compressible, and is typically recommended for flotation such as between the stringers, while 4# is recommended for inside the stringers, where strength is a little more important.
And good catch on the rigging tube, Rick. Better to find out now if it will work or not. I have some pretty tight bends in my tower, but I believe the Teleflex extreme cables that Seabob recommends can handle them. I think they have a 4" or 5" bend radius.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on December 31, 2014, 06:12:56 AM
The rigging tube worked fine. Tested it this morning. Did three floor supports today. Will take it easy tonight (New Years Eve) and work again tomorrow. I hope to fit the floor on Friday. :)
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on December 31, 2014, 08:10:09 AM
That's good. So the control cables went through no problem?
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on December 31, 2014, 10:51:01 AM
Yes, they went though fine. I made 3 floor supports today. I will stay off the alcohol tonight and be able to work on the boat tomorrow. :) I have to take the opportunity I have while I'm in the heated shop. I hope to fit the floor on Friday. I have gotten a lot done the past 8 days. (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data//500/IMG_20141231_115011.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=11067&title=img-20141231-115011&cat=500)
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: dburr on December 31, 2014, 11:03:40 AM
Lars, you're killing it!! What an animal!
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on December 31, 2014, 11:06:48 AM
Glad to hear the control cables go through fine. Looking real good. Happy New Year.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on December 31, 2014, 11:32:25 AM
Thanks Dave,
I will mark my stringers and be able to foam them even after I have installed the floor. I hope to have another 5 days before I'm out of the heated shop. I need to get pretty much all the fiberglass work done in that time. Wet sanding the hull, polishing and refit I can do at home in the spring. Still three months before boating season here in Sweden...
Happy New Year!!!
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on January 01, 2015, 10:26:14 AM
Spent a sober New Years Eve to be able to work on the boat today. I know I'm crazy, but I want to use every hour I can be in the heated shop. I glassed some support for the gas tank today. Cut the gas tank hatch in the floor and glassed an edge for the hatch cover to rest on. It is easy to do this while the floor is still on the table. I also painted some top coat in the rear bilge area. (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data//500/IMG_20150101_151715.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=11070&title=img-20150101-151715&cat=500)
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on January 03, 2015, 12:07:38 AM
Worked on the boat again yesterday. Put in almost 9 hours of work. A push to get the floor installed while there were people in the shop. (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/IMG_20150102_105444.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=11073&title=img-20150102-105444&cat=500)
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on January 03, 2015, 05:28:47 AM
Nice progress Lars :icon_salut:
So how did the shop guys like working with the Seacast product?
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on January 03, 2015, 09:07:36 AM
Hello Rick,
They thought it was a cool product. Easy to use if you prepare and get all the wood and moisture out of your transom. My transom feels like a rock now. I capped the transom today. Two hours worth of grinding and then glassing over the top. I will grind and start to make it look pretty tomorrow. There is no upload button for pics right now.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on January 03, 2015, 11:31:19 AM
Lars, make sure you're logged in on the gallery. Look at the top left and see if it has a login button or not. I have an upload button.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on January 03, 2015, 12:23:11 PM
I am logged in, but no upload button. I have tried both Chrome and Firefox browsers. Do you have any ideas what to try next? I tried logging off and back on, but still no upload button.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on January 03, 2015, 12:32:07 PM
I am logged in, but no upload button. I have tried both Chrome and Firefox browsers. Do you have any ideas what to try next? I tried logging off and back on, but still no upload button.
I am not talking about the CAS site but the gallery itself. When you go there be sure it doesn't have a login button to the top left. When I click on the gallery button I see "My photos", "My albums", etc and an upload button. With the switch to SMF sometimes I saw that it logged me out of the gallery because we were reloading stuff. If you're logged into the gallery it should be like it was before. Let me know bud.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on January 03, 2015, 11:22:05 PM
Now I have a button! I was logged in, tried three browsers, but now it works! I spent 2 hours yesterday grinding the transom before capping. These are before and after pictures. You can see the old transom, the new added on the inside and now connected with the new outside cap.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: dburr on January 04, 2015, 05:58:51 AM
Great progress!! How did the deck dry fit go?
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on January 04, 2015, 07:34:35 AM
Looks great Lars. :icon_salut: I am about at that stage on my transom too.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on January 04, 2015, 09:42:01 AM
The deck is glued in. Solid as a rock. What else feels solid as a rock is the transom. It feels almost scary strong. Capping it added one more layer of rigidity. Grinding down to the old transom and connecting the three layers together made a world of difference. I sanded and sanded today. Added one more layer of glass on top. Two layers actually. Will help me create the radius I want without putty filler. I also glassed the port top corner for the same reason. I don't want putty filler, solid glass= strong. I hope to bring my boat back home next Sunday. I'm taking a vacation day tomorrow and will spend the day in the shop. Tuesday is a holiday over here. Wednesday night I can work on the boat. And next Saturday and Sunday. I also sanded the inside of my center console. Removing all the wood from it. Not a fun job, my whole body itches like crazy...
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on January 05, 2015, 11:32:34 AM
Today was one of those days when you work hard for 8 hours and you can't see any difference... I spent several hours sanding today. Getting the transom straight and even. I also cut a hole and glassed in a duct to exit the cables and hoses from the engine inside the center console. The gas tank hatch is also contained inside the center console. This way my deck will be uninterrupted and easy to clean. Something I enjoy since I will have my boat in the water for 6-8 months.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on January 05, 2015, 05:23:34 PM
Looks good Lars - I've had plenty of days where only I saw progress. How are you finishing the edge around the floor and tying it to the liner?
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on January 05, 2015, 11:38:59 PM
Create a half inch radius and then a small strip of glass on top. I hope to finish this while I'm in the heated shop. Going in again today. Will start sanding what I glassed yesterday.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on January 06, 2015, 10:52:38 AM
Sanding and more sanding today. Managed two coats of top coat today. The color is not perfect, but I will let the outside of the transom be this color. I have enough color matched for the inside plus top. I also did a lot on the center console, but managed to forget to take pictures of it... (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/IMG_20150106_133809.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=11105&title=img-20150106-133809&cat=500)
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: CLM65 on January 07, 2015, 08:56:53 PM
Looking great Lars. You are actually making great progress...I am jealous.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on January 08, 2015, 12:08:17 AM
Thanks Craig, Unfortunately I'm taking the boat home on Saturday or Sunday. That will slow the progress until the weather warms up again in March or early April. I have over strained my hand too... Office worker... I worked over 100 hours on the boat during Christmas break. I did get another top coat applied last night. But no pictures. It looks about the same... I will try to get a few more little things done before I'm out of the nice warm shop. //Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: numlaar on January 08, 2015, 09:19:15 AM
I will double check tomorrow regarding the bend radii on the throttle cable and shifter. I have the cables and will test. Good point, thanks. The transom looks a bit spotty still, but I'm tickled to death over the result! It feels super strong already. I bet it will be the strongest transom in Sweden! I added two layers of fiberglass 600g/m2 on the inside of the hull of the stringers, before closing them up. I might still foam the stringers.
The pipe bend I used is called a long bend. If I can't get the cables though, I will cut the inside radius and straighten it out with fiberglass. I will make it work. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.
First off, want to say just AWESOME work on this rebuild. Sorry I am chiming in so late on this, but I have been reading the thread... I go busy at work, and didn't have a chance to comment on this...
I noted that you tried the Throttle/shift cables, but what kind of steering are you using?? If you are using a mechanical steering system (such as a rack or standard helm), those cables are far less forgiving than the Throttle/Shift. Especially the motor end of the steering cable, that's a solid peace of steel over a foot long... if you are going hydraulic, its no problem, but just thought I would ask real fast to see if you had thought about the steering cable as well.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on January 08, 2015, 01:10:31 PM
Thanks for those kind words Numlaar,
I plant to use a hydraulic steering system. I also plan a home made lid for the conduit that comes up near the transom. Time will tell if it was a good idea... I have been working hard, mainly for my chance to keep my boat in a heated shop for almost three weeks. I will bring the boat back home on Saturday or Sunday. The restoration ended up being a lot more involving than I first planned... I'm happy with the result so far. A lot of sanding to get the finish I want, but it will get there. Tonight I stopped by the shop and worked for a little bit more than an hour. I had prepped a piece of plywood that I laminated to the inside of the center console. This is where my fuel/water separator will be installed. I also fitted a piece of my deck material that I will use to mount my Johnson bilge pump. I also patched a couple of more holes in the center console. My right hand is giving me a hard time... I have done a good job on it with all the sanding. I'm an office worker by trade, and not used to hard work... I put it more than 100 hours during the course of 14 days. I only had Christmas eve and day off... Even worked on New Years day...
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: Capt. Bob on January 08, 2015, 01:36:18 PM
Lars, Where are you mounting your battery(s)?
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on January 08, 2015, 01:40:18 PM
My plan is in the center console. //Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on January 08, 2015, 01:55:00 PM
Make sure you have good venting of the console if you're keeping the fuel filter stuff there. Looks good buddy.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on January 09, 2015, 12:19:48 AM
Thanks Rick!
Good to know. I'm placing it in the CC to make the installation look clean. My boat didn't have a water/fuel filter when I bought it. I planned for increased ventilation, since my batteries will be in there too. Is it bad to mix the two? Thanks for your support buddy!
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on January 09, 2015, 05:08:26 AM
A spark around gas fumes might be hazardous ;-) And I'm sure there is a ABYC rule against mixing the two. I am going to build a little standoff on the inside of the transom to mount my filter/separator onto so I'm not punching holes in my new transom. I am also thinking of doing the same for the transducer on the bottom of the transom. With fiberglass you can make just about anything. :72:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on January 10, 2015, 12:39:07 AM
I might have to re think the placement of the filter. Or create a separate compartment some how. I'm going to the boat today. My right hand is still not right. Whatever I do today will not involve heavy work... I will prepare to bring the boat home.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: CLM65 on January 10, 2015, 08:11:32 AM
Many boats have the batteries and fuel filters in the transom area, with no barriers between them....
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on January 10, 2015, 08:43:54 AM
I know my battery was right next to my filter on my 170 but both were outside in the open. Fuel filters/water separators can be messy when you're draining them even if you're careful. If you are working on your batteries, to say clean the terminals and there is a load on them still and there is a spark - who knows what could happen in a semi enclosed area if there are gas fumes. Just thinking safety here. Murphy is a bad guy. I am going to have 3 batteries under my console plan to keep them and fuel very separate but that is just my opinion.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on January 10, 2015, 11:34:36 AM
Thanks for all your input guys. I spent a couple of hours at the boat today. Added some topcoat to repaired areas. Sanding and polishing I can do in my tent. I also found out how much to pay the guy that owns the shop. He is too nice, and I had to salt the bill myself. He was very happy and I would have spent at least that amount on material for what I paid him for almost 3 weeks in the heated shop. I also got to use all his professional tools, vacuums etc. I'm very happy I got this opportunity. Tomorrow I will bring it home to my tent... It will get a lot colder to work on it...
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on January 10, 2015, 11:54:43 AM
Your word of mouth about his shop will pay dividends for him :PDT_Armataz_01_37:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: dburr on January 10, 2015, 12:26:11 PM
Thanks for all your input guys. I spent a couple of hours at the boat today. Added some topcoat to repaired areas. Sanding and polishing I can do in my tent. I also found out how much to pay the guy that owns the shop. He is too nice, and I had to salt the bill myself. He was very happy and I would have spent at least that amount on material for what I paid him for almost 3 weeks in the heated shop. I also got to use all his professional tools, vacuums etc. I'm very happy I got this opportunity. Tomorrow I will bring it home to my tent... It will get a lot colder to work on it...
//Lars
A tray of cookies and a beverage of choice goes a long way too! You're lucky, not many cool guys like that around anymore, folks sometimes hustle the dime to much.
If you are in a position that the filter "has" to go in the console to stay out of the weather, good ventilation is a must for the time servicing the filter. The rest of the time it will be business as usual with batteries in an enclosed space, unless you get fancy with the type of battery, the lead acid bats produce Hydrogen in small amounts when they charge, and that might be more of an issue over time if the console is really tight.
Keeping the filter out where it can be seen is good for trouble shooting and easy service, easy service means it WILL get done and not postponed.. :banghead:. Mine is on the transom,stbd side,and I don't like it there because is is exposed and in the way. A project will be to move it to the stbd side up under the cap so it will not be a trip hazard when coming aboard over the stern, but still close to the motor.. You have time to do a custom mount flat under the cap, and that might be an option.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on January 11, 2015, 01:42:50 AM
Thanks Guys! I might go ahead and plan for the water/fuel filter in the console, and make sure I have good ventilation. I added a piece of plywood to the inside of the console to have something to screw the filter holder to.
I finally slept 8 hours last night. My hand is doing better... :great: I ordered a Makita 9237CB yesterday. My brother (lives next door to me) and I will share it. It will come in handy when bringing the old cel coat back to life.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on January 11, 2015, 05:41:28 AM
The boat is back home in my cold tent. It was an interesting trip home from the shop... Full blizzard and quite windy. I don't have winter tires on my trailer and was happy I didn't meet the Swedish police. Everything went well and now my boat is in the tent and drying up again. Once my hand is better, I will start sanding and work on the finish. (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/IMG_20150111_111752.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=11133&title=img-20150111-111752&cat=500)
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on January 11, 2015, 06:45:28 AM
I forget, did you say you're adding a bilge pump to the boat? If so, did you route the exhaust tube while you had the boat opened up?
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on January 11, 2015, 07:28:04 AM
Hello Rick,
Yes, I did. I don't know if I will use two bilge pumps yet. I might start with one, but I have everything prepared for two. It felt good to get the boat home. Wet sanding and polishing I can do in my tent. It is a "warm" winter here and not freezing temps. At least for the coming week. I will allow my hand and arm to rest for a couple of more days... //Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on January 13, 2015, 03:44:54 AM
I have a question.
Is the Aquasport 170 and 175 the same length? when I measure my boat it comes out to 5.28 meter, that translates to 17.5 feet.
Does anyone know if they are the same length?
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on January 13, 2015, 05:01:00 AM
Legend has it that the 175 was a 170 and they changed the decals only. I have not measured the LOA of mine but will when I work on it again.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on January 13, 2015, 07:02:49 AM
Thanks Rick,
I will measure mine again tonight.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on January 15, 2015, 12:11:19 AM
I have done some reading, and I think you are right. It's the same hull. They only changed the inner liner. I have not had a chance to measure mine yet, but will do so tomorrow.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on January 16, 2015, 08:42:18 AM
I sent in a positive testimonial to Seacast Transom repairs. I got famous on Facebook... ;) https://www.facebook.com/SeacastTransomReplacement
Great product if you follow the instructions.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: Capt. Bob on January 16, 2015, 08:46:17 AM
:victory:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on January 16, 2015, 11:54:57 AM
8) Never knew anyone famous except for Capt. Bob of course. :s_laugh:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on January 16, 2015, 01:34:18 PM
:) Haha, I'm not that famous... :72:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on January 17, 2015, 11:50:11 AM
I did do a little bit of sanding today. My right arm is still not recovered, but it feels good to do a little something on the boat. (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/IMG_20150117_174143.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=11246&title=img-20150117-174143&cat=500)
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on January 21, 2015, 02:18:48 PM
I cleared 4 inches of wet snow from my boat tent after work today... Swedish winter... At least I move forward with other bits and pieces on my project. When I took my boat apart, the threaded rod connecting the bow eye with the Aquasport cleat was made from regular steel... It was rusted to the point it was thin as a nail... Now a new machined threaded Acid proof stainless steel rod is ready to be installed. :93: AISI 316 for you guys. (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/received_441915285961126.jpeg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=11336&title=received-441915285961126&cat=500)
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on January 21, 2015, 03:09:51 PM
Nice :cool2: The top cleat and the bow eye were not connected on my '71 :scratch:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on January 21, 2015, 03:33:55 PM
It was on my boat... With a very rusty threaded rod... I can post a picture once I have dry tested it on my boat. There is a special stainless steel part that connects the cylindrical part with the bow eye back plate. Bad explanation. The picture will explain it a lot better.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on January 21, 2015, 03:42:25 PM
Here is the assembly a bit more complete. I hope I turned the bottom bracket the right way around. (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/IMG_20150121_213531.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=11337&title=img-20150121-213531&cat=500)
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on January 21, 2015, 04:41:24 PM
You'll be the first one to know :hee20hee20hee:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on January 21, 2015, 05:01:37 PM
:great02: I know... Haha
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on January 29, 2015, 12:33:54 PM
Hello guys,
My hand and arm are doing better. Saturday I will be back at sanding again. Because I'm from Sweden, I figured I would post some pictures of places I will visit with the Aquasport.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: CLM65 on January 29, 2015, 05:03:39 PM
Wow, beautiful area! How is the fishing over there?
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on January 29, 2015, 05:13:30 PM
Very nice area - I need a :whistle: smiley :salut:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on January 30, 2015, 02:25:34 AM
Thanks Craig and Rick! Tomorrow I plan to be back at work on my boat. My hand is a lot better.
:c017: //Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on January 31, 2015, 09:51:11 AM
Hello again Craig,
I forgot to answer the fishing question. We have Salmon, Cod, Walleye, Grouper, Baltic Herring, Flounder, Turbot. There are also other fish that you can get, but we don't consider good to eat. I cut out my Windscreen out of a sheet of Poly-carbonate today. I tried bending some cut offs in a bending machine at work. I didn't manage to get a good enough bending radii, and will have to try to find another bending machine. Any ideas on how to bend 1/4" PC? (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/IMG_20150131_163541.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=11405&title=img-20150131-163541&cat=500)
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on January 31, 2015, 02:02:55 PM
Hi Lars, I assume you heated the plexi. So you don't have tight enough radii? Can you build a mold to bend over?
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: CLM65 on January 31, 2015, 03:02:32 PM
I agree with Rick. I haven't tried bending any myself yet, but from what I've read, heating it seems appropriate.
Sounds like a great variety of fish there!
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: flatbackpaul on January 31, 2015, 09:39:27 PM
to get a 90 degree bend in plastic you will need a strip heater. You don't want to heat the entire sheet because it will warp. Look on youtube and you will find many videos that show how it's done. you can probably make one yourself.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on February 01, 2015, 02:22:30 AM
Thanks guys,
I will look for it on YouTube. I will also ask a company here in town if they can help me. I used a swing bender, and it made a tear in the plastic instead of a bend radii.
I have a polycarbonate sheet (Lexan or Makrolon) , but is it the same technique to bend PC as it is acrylic?
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on February 02, 2015, 03:03:48 PM
I found a company in a neighboring town today, that will warm bend the windscreen for 30 bucks. I think I will make the drive and have them do it. I will probably bring the other sheet too, and have them add the bends on it too.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on February 02, 2015, 06:13:55 PM
Sounds like a plan. Having a spare is a plus too.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on February 02, 2015, 07:07:33 PM
Lars, you mentioned in another thread that you were investigating paint for the sole of the boat. I recommend this technique to lay down a forever non-skid that is extremely easy to apply. I think you laminated your sole material with poly, correct? If so try this. It's how I will do mine again. This time I may spray the water runs and make them real smooth and shiny and then start the process. http://classicaquasport.com/smf/index.php?topic=1991.0
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on February 03, 2015, 12:15:31 AM
Thanks Rick! That is what I will do then. Do you thin your gelcoat slightly before applying? //Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on February 03, 2015, 05:05:04 AM
Nope. You can get creative and get a quart of waxed gelcoat and some tint and tint it slightly (the tint is very concentrated - I use a toothpick dipped once or twice into the tint to tint a quart) and use that for the "water run" lines. Let it harden, wipe it down with acetone to remove the wax, sand, buff and then use either a different tinted color for the main fields or use untinted white. You can be as creative or not, as you want. White on white looks good too.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on February 03, 2015, 01:12:05 PM
That sounds like a good plan. I might go grey tint, like my boat had originally. It's cold and quite a bit of snow here right now... I will have to wait at least a month and a half until the weather is warm enough for gelcoat work outside...
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on February 03, 2015, 06:02:03 PM
That'll give you a chance to find the tint and how to make grey. The tint comes in a little 1/2cup or less bottle. Maybe your buddies at the shop might have some? It doesn't take much, for sure.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on February 05, 2015, 02:04:07 PM
Yes, I will stop by the fiberglass shop next week and order some more color matched gelcoat, at the same time I will go ahead and buy some white gelcoat that I can make grey myself. This weekend will be sunny. I will shot some winter pictures and post if you guys think its OK.
Friday tomorrow. I have the beer cooling in my beer fridge. Waiting for 5PM tomorrow... :thumleft:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: CLM65 on February 06, 2015, 10:04:07 AM
Of course it's ok to post more pictures! It's your thread! Plus, that is really a beautiful area :thumleft:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on February 06, 2015, 11:34:49 AM
Thanks Craig! I thought it might be cool for the Florida people to see our winters. It was beautiful today, but I was stuck in the office all day. I hope we will have clear blue sky and winter white tomorrow and Sunday. Pictures will be posted! :08: It is Friday and 5:33PM here. I'm enjoying a cold beer and relaxing in my man cave. Feels great after yet another tough week at work.
I wish everyone a great weekend.
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on February 07, 2015, 07:39:55 AM
We took a short drive in the country side today. Clouds rolled in after lunch. It's supposed to be a lot better tomorrow. (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/IMG_20150207_114237.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=11416&title=img-20150207-114237&cat=500)
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on February 07, 2015, 09:29:17 AM
Drilled my scuppers today. Felt good to have this job done... It is nerve wrecking to put the drill in a freshly painted transom... As you can see, I have sanded the gelcoat way to thin in places. The weather is too cold and humid here for sanding and gel coating. I try to find jobs I can do despite the weather...
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on February 07, 2015, 09:47:28 AM
Just drilling a hole that big into your transom is scary. How was it drilling through the Seacast?
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on February 07, 2015, 10:00:55 AM
It felt really good to drill in the seacast. I used a pilot drill first, to know I was in the right place. Then I used a 1" hole saw to make my scuppers. I plan to gelcoat the inside and then use West Marine Scupper Valves I bought in North Carolina. If we go for a longer drive tomorrow, I plan to buy a deck plate and cut the hole in my deck bigger. The Seacast looked really nice and solid. The hole saw was not deep enough to go all the way through, I had to break the core off after drilling 3/4 of the way, and then drill all the way through. (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/IMG_20150207_155708.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=11420&title=img-20150207-155708&cat=500)
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on February 08, 2015, 10:54:47 AM
28 Degrees F today, and I managed to sand again. The cold makes it dry and sanding works fine. I did dry mount a new drain plug. Felt good to actually install something... The sanding does not look like much progress on the pictures. You will have to take my word for it. I did find a picture of my nephew the one time we took the boat out in September. The helmet is because we rode our bikes down to the marina. He never took it off...
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on February 14, 2015, 10:51:27 AM
Spent an hour wet sanding the transom this afternoon. 38 degrees here in Sweden... I can't say it is super pleasant to wet sand at this temperature, but I try to do a little bit on the boat every day.
I bought 4 of these pop up cleats at a sale last weekend. Got a great price for them, and plan to use them on my Aquasport. I have to admit that it will be super cool to start installing new or polished hardware on the boat. I have quite a bit of sanding and polishing to do still...
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: CLM65 on February 14, 2015, 12:57:05 PM
Nice looking cleat, Lars. I have been accumulating hardware ever since I started my project (which is over 2 yeas ago now). Cleats, thru hulls, hinges, steering parts, pumps, switches, etc., etc., etc. So I know the feeling about being anxious to actually install some nice new shiny parts. Some day....
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on February 14, 2015, 07:27:02 PM
I bought the same type cleats as this all around and I was advised to build up the area that they would be installed. I did with 6 layers of 1708 on the underside of the cap. This is in case some future owner tries to hoist/lift the boat by those cleats. You could lam a bunch of layers of cloth together as wide as will fit under the cap and a few inches longer each end and when hard, use the bottom plate as a guide for drilling.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on February 15, 2015, 01:11:39 AM
Reinforcing is a good idea. I will do that. I will wet sand a bit more today. Pick away at it. I can't wait for spring and warmer temps. I can do the final gelcoat work and start to polish the boat.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on February 21, 2015, 02:05:50 AM
Hardware Saturday today. I thought I'd post some pictures of my accumulated "bling" for my boat. (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/IMG_20150221_075512.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=11494&title=img-20150221-075512&cat=500) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/IMG_20150221_075447.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=11493&title=img-20150221-075447&cat=500) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/IMG_20150221_075420.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=11492&title=img-20150221-075420&cat=500) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/IMG_20150221_075349.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=11491&title=img-20150221-075349&cat=500) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/IMG_20150221_075321.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=11490&title=img-20150221-075321&cat=500) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/IMG_20150221_075621.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=11497&title=img-20150221-075621&cat=500) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/IMG_20150221_075548.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=11496&title=img-20150221-075548&cat=500) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/IMG_20150221_075538.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=11495&title=img-20150221-075538&cat=500)
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on February 21, 2015, 06:32:10 AM
I think I bought the same switch panel and compass. :great02: Been a long time since I've seen them on my bench :roll:
Edit: I looked today at the switch panel I bought and mine is a little different - made by BEP. Same concept though.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on February 21, 2015, 10:02:48 AM
I wanted a waterproof panel since my boat will be in the water all summer long. I'm thinking of building a T-Top. Anyone that knows where I can find a drawing for one?
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on February 27, 2015, 02:02:24 AM
I received my Seacast sticker in the mail yesterday! It will be placed on my transom, once I'm happy with the color and finish. I wish everyone a nice weekend. I plan to wet sand. I hope you guys have something fun lined up. //Lars (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/IMG_20150226_071322.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=11526&title=img-20150226-071322&cat=500)
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on February 27, 2015, 05:17:28 AM
I'm thinking of building a T-Top. Anyone that knows where I can find a drawing for one?
I don't remember what you used for your sole material - did you build in the reinforcement necessary for a t-top mounting? Hate to see you hurt your purdy craftsmanship :badday:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on February 27, 2015, 07:50:15 AM
I think my sole would be strong enough. It's called divinycell over here. High density stuff. I don't think I will go T-Top this year. I might in the future. Wet sanding is on the agenda for this weekend. It is still pretty cold here with high 30's called for this weekend. I will get more inspired when it finally warms up...
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: Capt. Bob on February 27, 2015, 08:53:21 AM
I wanted a waterproof panel since my boat will be in the water all summer long. I'm thinking of building a T-Top. Anyone that knows where I can find a drawing for one?
I've done some limited searching and haven't found a whole lot. I'm assuming you have seen this but it may be a route you can go. http://www.atlantictowers.com/products_tiab.php?gclid=CjwKEAiAyMCnBRDa0Pyex-qswB0SJADKNMKAHCCxjpVaxS-DwRVSilsftfWwX-Ql-e4Y1CwXQ-rufRoCSZ3w_wcB
And another. http://www.strykerttops.com/?gclid=CjwKEAiAyMCnBRDa0Pyex-qswB0SJADKNMKAAmFCz4OWHxYtHnopCQZMXoWoabQyR8FUF37lGejZUBoC6nPw_wcB
The thought here is the shipping costs may be palatable because of the shape of the container. You have to install of course but I doubt that is any problem. You can also contact them if you need any "tweaking" but I'd guess they have a generic that would fit your hull fine. I'll keep looking for some drawings.
This may be worth a peek. http://howtobuildaboattargatop.com/
Good luck.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on February 27, 2015, 10:57:33 AM
Thanks guys! Thanks Captain Bob for the links! Great reading. I might attempt to design something myself. My brother is a licensed welder :thumleft: It is almost beer time here in Sweden. It's been a rough week at work, and I'm looking forward to a relaxing weekend. Hopefully some wet sanding tomorrow or Sunday, weather permitting.
Once again, thanks guys! Great to have your company on my project.
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: Capt. Bob on February 27, 2015, 11:15:32 AM
Here's something where you add your dimensions. http://www.google.com/patents/US6725799
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on February 27, 2015, 12:24:13 PM
When you showed me the patent link, I found this. Many moons ago, but I have to admit I'm proud. For a Swedish guy to have a US patent is pretty cool. My name is on several US patents from working in the US for 5.5 years, but this one is mine :thumleft: https://www.google.com/patents/US6659752?dq=patents+lars+lindqvist+over+molded+meter+cover&hl=sv&sa=X&ei=66bwVKT9L6LkyAPyz4BQ&ved=0CDgQ6AEwAw
Didn't mean to brag... I'm a little proud and not many people care... hehe
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on February 27, 2015, 01:31:08 PM
:coolth: That's one more patent then I have :thumright: - maybe I should have documented some of the shenanigans I went through during this rebuild and submitted them :confused1: :lolG:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on February 27, 2015, 01:40:32 PM
As for your sole holding the t-top - the t-top will become the go-to place to grab when you have to hang on, either taking off or slowing down, especially slowing down quickly, like when hitting a big wave. There will be a tremendous amount of stress on the locations where you attach the t-top. The preferred way is to get some thick, 1/4" or so, aluminum and thread holes into it to match the t-top holes and somehow get them under the sole. Craig's rebuild shows an example of planning that into the rebuild. Another form of stress on the t-top mounting areas is just hauling the boat down a high speed road, having the wind using the t-top to lift your boat off the trailer.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: flatbackpaul on February 27, 2015, 04:54:13 PM
Every time I see that EcoWolf name, it makes my skin crawl. :a0002: Glad you had a better experience.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on February 28, 2015, 02:27:49 AM
Thanks guys, Felt bad after posting it... but I am a little bit proud of it... I understand that adding a T-Top would add serious stress to the floor. I have given up on it for this season. I will focus on getting the boat in the water and enjoy her this year.
Flatbackpaul, how are things working out for you? Any progress on your transom? I'm sorry for your troubles. I really did have a good experience with the product. But I put in endless hours to clean the wood, dry the transom and adding additional strength to the shell before the pour.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on March 08, 2015, 08:59:42 AM
Working on my boat today. Sanding, drilling and grinding away on my center console. Did a mock up with some of the components to go on the console. (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/IMG_20150308_135521.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=11558&title=img-20150308-135521&cat=500)
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on March 08, 2015, 10:52:24 AM
I'm done sanding for today. We had a beautiful day here in Sweden. 60 degrees today, and sunny. I have been outside all day. Early beer time today... Feels good to have a lot of sanding done on the center console. I will paint it. There is just too much work to do gelcoat repairs. I hope everyone has had a nice weekend. //Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on March 08, 2015, 02:20:33 PM
Looks good Lars. :great02: If you use the Duratech additive in gelcoat and a 2.2 - 2.5 tip, follow the instructions on the duratech can and you get a really nice shiny layer of gelcoat. Then it needs the higher number in sandpaper, 400, 800, 1200 and some compound and she'll look great.
I sprayed my console but when I came back to check it out bugs had ventured too close and were now ornaments on it :021:. I'll re-spray while it's still cool out and before they come back out (lovebugs are what they are called). If you look at my rebuild you'll find pics of what it looked like.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on March 09, 2015, 04:12:55 AM
Thanks Rick,
I will look into that. I wonder if I can find that product here in Europe?
Sounds like a better plan than painting.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on March 09, 2015, 05:07:22 AM
Paint vs Gelcoat is like comparing car brands - everyone has their own preference. I know that the only paint that can be left in water for extended periods is bottom paint, any other and it's "not recommended". Above the waterline, paint is a lot less labor to put on and you can get some good results from it.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on March 09, 2015, 03:53:33 PM
I will try to get hold of Duratec. Called my fiberglass guy today, but he was in the shop working. Will try to call him tomorrow. Gelcoat is gelcoat. I will consider a gelcoat repair again. This product sounds really interesting. I'm glad I found you guys. It's great to get input and knowledge from you guys.
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on March 25, 2015, 09:37:21 AM
Lars any updates - find the Duratec?
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on March 26, 2015, 07:21:14 AM
Hello Rick,
No, I have not had any luck finding duratec yet. I have written to the company in the US, asking for European vendors, but not heard anything yet. I came back from a weeks vacation in New York yesterday morning. That is why you have not heard anything from me. Great time in New York. We visited with a good friend on Long Island too. Weather was beautiful for the most part, but cold... It's still cold here in Sweden too... I hope we will warm up for Easter. I have spent a total of 2 months in New York, but this trip was the first time I took the Staten Island Ferry. It was a great experience, and I will do it again next time we are in town.
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on March 26, 2015, 08:35:23 AM
Glad you had a good time. Maybe should have grabbed a qt of duratec and brought it back with you?
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on March 26, 2015, 03:42:20 PM
I traveled with my wife, my mom and her fiance... The thought crossed my mind, to try to find Duratec, but I'm not allowed to bring chemicals in the check in luggage anymore. I have tried to bring super glue, epoxy etc. and my bag is always open and the stuff gone. Hopefully it is available in Europe, or I will have to pay for shipping from the US.
The weather is cold here in Sweden... I received my color matched gel coat yesterday. 5 pounds of it. Unfortunately it is not going to be warm enough this weekend to be able to apply any gel coat. I will finish the wet sanding and be prepared once the weather allows.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: Capt. Bob on March 26, 2015, 04:15:18 PM
Not sure this will help but ya never know.
http://duratec1.com/distributors/
Zoom out to get a world map.
Maybe this group? Appears to be south of Gothenburg?
Scott Bader 46 (0) 346 101 00
He's a distributor but he should know where the closest (to you) supplier(fingers crossed) is located. :ScrChin:
Good luck.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on March 27, 2015, 05:03:04 AM
Thanks!
I called the guy. He said Duratec had closed their UK warehouse... Last time he ordered products from them, the products were over 1 year old. I will have to make due without I guess. More sanding for me... Thanks very much for the effort! I miss the US a lot when it comes to shopping. What you can't find in the good old USA does not exist... ;-)
They say warmer weather tomorrow. I might go ahead and sand some tonight when I get home from work. It would be great if the temps would come up to allow me to apply the first coat of color matched gelcoat tomorrow.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on March 29, 2015, 02:36:17 PM
Rain all day today... I never got any inspiration to leave the warmth of my man cave... If spring could arrive for real soon. Posting a picture from New York. Just to do something... (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/IMG_20150321_093835-PANO.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=11685&title=img-20150321-093835-pano&cat=500)
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on April 06, 2015, 11:35:54 AM
I hope everyone have had a nice Easter. We finally got a nice day today, with no wind and 50 degree temps. I spent the entire day wet sanding and polishing the hull. As always, it is hard to see any difference, but I took this picture to try to show the polished hull. This is only the rough polish. I will go over the hull several more times with finer and finer grit rubbing. (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/IMG_20150406_150555.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=11697&title=img-20150406-150555&cat=500)
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on April 06, 2015, 01:25:03 PM
I see shine on that gelcoat :salut2:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: CLM65 on April 06, 2015, 10:06:31 PM
Looking good Lars! What grit did you start with, and what will you finish with?
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on April 07, 2015, 12:15:42 AM
Thanks guys,
I started with 600, 800, 1000 and 1500. I use a 3M polishing compound that has the white cork. This is their compound that has the roughest cut. I will finish with a finer cut, but most likely go over one more time with the same compound. My arms are hurting today...
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on April 07, 2015, 05:17:41 AM
Not using an air tool for this? You're going to end up with an arm like the guys in the Skittles commercial - "Settle it" (http://www.funnycommercialsworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Skittles-settle-it.jpg)
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on April 08, 2015, 06:07:16 AM
Haha, Yes, I felt it quite a bit on Sunday night.
We are looking forward to some warmer weather finally... I hope to paint my top coat on Friday afternoon.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on April 12, 2015, 10:15:49 AM
The weather man was wrong again... Nice weather, but the temps never reached the top coating levels... I bought a very nice paint brush today. I'm prepared, once the temps reach the required levels.
I hope everyone had a nice weekend. //Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on April 18, 2015, 10:40:02 AM
I drilled the top holes for my engine today. The bottom ones, I will drill when the outboard is installed. Tolerances... I just want to make sure I don't have to drill more than once/hole... I hope everyone has a nice Saturday! I'm enjoying a cold one on our patio.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on April 18, 2015, 01:22:20 PM
Looks good Lars. (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/Standard_Mounting_Bolt_Pattern_for_transoms.png) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=11801&title=standard-mounting-bolt-pattern-for-transoms&cat=500)
Are you drilling 1/2" or 17/32??
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on April 18, 2015, 11:28:18 PM
Hello Rick, I'm drilling 17/32. That was in the manual. Should give a little bit of wiggle room I guess
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: fitz73222 on April 19, 2015, 05:40:11 AM
Lars, The extra clearance in the hole is to allow room for your sealer on the bolt when you install the engine. Better water intrusion protection for your transom core.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on April 19, 2015, 06:54:02 AM
OK, that sounds good. I have seacast in my transom, but will put sealer anyway to prevent water from entering the core. The way I have it figured out, I will use the second hole from the top on my Merc, and the top one for the lower mount. This prevents me from lowering the engine (no problem since the cavity plate will be flush with the bottom of the boat). I can raise it 1 hole if I get a steel prop, if I feel like going faster...
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on April 19, 2015, 12:44:13 PM
I forgot to mention that I'm very happy to have you guys in this forum. I probably have the only Aquasport 170 in Sweden, but thanks to you guys I'm not alone.
Thanks for all your input and knowledge about this boat.
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on April 19, 2015, 05:12:43 PM
We're a big family and families take care of their own. :salut2: To let you know, I just approved a member from Greece and one from Portugal. We're definitely broadening our horizons. We have a few members from Italy, one from Panama, one from Aruba, two from the UK, one or two from Australia. I probably forgot some important locations too (I apologize if I did). We're world wide!!!
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: Miguel on April 19, 2015, 09:40:03 PM
Panama here!!! And a 17 Osprey owner as well.
Long time since I was last here and you mention my country...There has to be a message hidden somewhere.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on April 20, 2015, 04:56:18 AM
Hi Miquel, glad you stopped by. How's the family? Hows the 170? Is the new canal getting close to being done?
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on April 20, 2015, 06:23:31 AM
That is cool that we are such an international gang! I have not seen another one here in Sweden. I went and looked at a Key West 1720 before deciding on the Aquasport. I think this forum helped me decide actually. And the Key West had a problem with wet floor. The way I will use my boat, that was a big problem for me. This is why my scuppers are moved up almost 1 inch. //Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on April 23, 2015, 02:48:19 PM
I got my windshield bent today. I cut it out two months ago, but finally brought it to work today and got the two bends done. Feels good. There is no tint to it, but it is made from Poly-carbonate with scratch and UV resistant coating. One small step closer... The weather here is nice, but just not warm enough for me to apply the last coat of top coat. I just have to wait. This weekend I hope to finish the sanding on the edge between the floor and sides. (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/IMG_20150423_202823.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=11889&title=img-20150423-202823&cat=500)
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on April 23, 2015, 03:02:53 PM
Looks good Lars. Did you bend it yourself? Is the white thing a mold or cardboard?
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on April 23, 2015, 03:26:38 PM
The white one is the new one. It has a protective film on it. It is clear underneath. The tinted one is the old cracked windshield. I'm very happy with how the new one turned out. The width is within 80 thousands of an inch!
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on April 23, 2015, 09:39:22 PM
I hope you didn't add any gelcoat to the sides of the console :roll:
:wink2:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on April 23, 2015, 11:14:58 PM
No worries, it's 0.080" wider. No problem, I will adjust that with my spacers. :thumleft:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on April 26, 2015, 09:59:19 AM
Wet sanding sun damaged gel coat today. I hope to polish it out too before I call it the night. I took a break to post a couple of pictures!
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: williecoyote on April 26, 2015, 12:04:43 PM
Good job on your boat Lars, it is really starting to look good. Your hours of hard work are showing. I also enjoy the pictures of your country that you slip in from time to time.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on April 26, 2015, 01:34:49 PM
Coming along nicely Lars. Had a great couple of days boat camping, now it's time to get back to sanding for me too.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on April 27, 2015, 03:45:09 AM
Thanks guys! I did get some polishing done yesterday. I hope to do some more tonight. It is hard work, and I only do short sessions of it to prevent injuries...
I'm trying to do work that doesn't require 70 degree weather, something we don't have here yet... I still need to apply top coat to the transom, a job that have to wait until the weather permits.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on April 30, 2015, 11:59:45 AM
3 days off and they call for two days of rain... If anyone need a product developer/product manager with 26 years experience in Florida, please give me a call. I will bring the boat ;)
I wish everyone I nice weekend.
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on April 30, 2015, 12:54:31 PM
In the summer here it rains every day - can almost set your clock to it. You can wet sand easier in the rain ::p:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on May 01, 2015, 03:00:31 AM
That is true Rick!
The weather is actually better today than the forecast. The really bad weather we will enjoy tomorrow... I will get some work done on the boat today. Report later today.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on May 02, 2015, 11:08:25 AM
The weather has not been helping this weekend... Rain on and off yesterday, and rain the majority of today too... Tomorrow it will finally get better. I got the bow eye installed today. Removed the eye, got all the rust that had leaked from the connecting rod (was installed in my boat, but not stainless) and wet sanded the gelcoat, removing all the rust. There is a small scuff mark as you can see in the picture, but I will live with it. I'm glad I got all the ugly rust away with steel wool and elbow grease. By the time I had the boat out of the tent, the sky opened up... I took the opportunity and cleaned the inside of the hull with my garden hose. (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/IMG_20150502_164838.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=12035&title=img-20150502-164838&cat=500) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/IMG_20150502_164801.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=12034&title=img-20150502-164801&cat=500)
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on May 02, 2015, 11:31:19 AM
:great02:
How does any water get out from the rod lockers on the side of the liner?
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on May 02, 2015, 11:44:39 AM
Hello Rick,
There are a hole (on each side) that drains the rod lockers. (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/IMG_20150502_174217.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=12036&title=img-20150502-174217&cat=500)
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on May 02, 2015, 03:21:42 PM
Seems pretty high. Is that the level of the bottom of the rod locker? Reason I ask is that I am going to have to allow water to escape from behind my lockers. Maybe water will get in via around the in-gunwale rod holders, etc. I bought some cups that slide onto the bottom of an in-gunwale rod holder and you attach a little hose to it and then it drains onto the deck via a hole you drill for the hose. You can see the rod lockers are different on the '70/71, so no water can get in from them unless it comes in around the perimeter/lip where it screws to the liner. (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data//646/CIMG1113.JPG)
I guess I can hope any water will just go through to the bilge via the rigging pipe holes at the aft of the floor in each corner.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on May 03, 2015, 02:04:23 AM
If I aim the garden hose directly into the locker, the water pours out of that hole.
I'm 95% sure my boat is a 1981. Maybe it is changed from your earlier model?
Let me know if you want more pictures. Oh, my floor is elevated 3/4 of an inch compared to original. That should make the holes look high maybe?
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on May 03, 2015, 11:26:29 AM
We got a nice day in Sweden today. I installed the pull pit or railing or what you call it today. I also installed my gas tank, sensor and breather hose. I also installed two pop up cleats. All in all a good day. One more day of sanding, then paint the floor, and transom.
I hope everyone had a nice weekend.
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on May 03, 2015, 01:14:10 PM
Sounds like good progress :salut2:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on May 04, 2015, 02:14:51 PM
It felt good to get quite a few things done on the boat yesterday. Now it looks like we will finally get some warmer weather! I hope to gel coat the transom on Wednesday after work.
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on May 04, 2015, 02:59:47 PM
How late does it stay light there at this time of year?
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on May 04, 2015, 11:30:46 PM
Hello,
Sun up at 04:44 and down at 8:51 PM. It is dusk for 30 min after and at least 30 min before. I'm going on a business trip today, and are up early, but it is already daylight.
We had rain last night, otherwise it is no problem for me to get quite a bit done after getting home from work. //Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on May 08, 2015, 03:11:33 PM
I finally got the top coat applied this week. We had one day with nice warm weather... Yesterday and today I wet sanded the transom, and Tomorrow I will continue with more fine grit paper. It was windy tonight, but with a couple of beers it was possible... (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/IMG_20150508_205734.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=12045&title=img-20150508-205734&cat=500)
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on May 10, 2015, 02:14:52 AM
Wet sanded and polished the out side of the transom yesterday. Installed some more hardware. (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/IMG_20150509_161925.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=12057&title=img-20150509-161925&cat=500) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/IMG_20150509_184719.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=12058&title=img-20150509-184719&cat=500)
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: fitz73222 on May 10, 2015, 03:58:56 AM
Very nice work Lars. You have much to be proud of!
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on May 10, 2015, 06:50:08 AM
Thanks for the nice words!
There is a lot more to do, but I'm picking away at it. Feels great to install some new shiny bits finally.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on May 10, 2015, 06:57:36 AM
:whistle: :whistle: :whistle: Looks really nice.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on May 10, 2015, 09:19:47 AM
Thanks Rick! Kind words!
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: CLM65 on May 10, 2015, 10:20:12 AM
Wow! You should feel proud Lars! That is looking great!
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on May 10, 2015, 10:51:05 AM
Thanks Craig! Today I didn't do much on the boat. The weather has been rain on and off today... Spent the time cleaning my man cave, accumulating some plus points...
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: Capt. Bob on May 10, 2015, 12:57:53 PM
Eco-Wolf should be proud too. Seeing the kind of work that can be done with their product.
Excellent rebuild thread Lars. Keep it coming. :thumright:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on May 10, 2015, 03:07:11 PM
Yeah, After seeing this I kinda hate to show the crappy looking transom I've been working on today :91:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on May 10, 2015, 03:08:51 PM
Thanks Capt. Bob!
Rick, your boat is awesome. I'm not even close to your standards!
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on May 10, 2015, 03:14:15 PM
Thanks, and don't kid yourself, you're there.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on May 11, 2015, 11:37:38 PM
Thanks Rick, I'm very glad to have you guys as support. When it comes time for the electrical system, I hope I can get some help in this forum. That electrical part of the project scares me a little bit. //Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: Capt. Bob on May 12, 2015, 02:31:11 PM
Not a problem.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on May 13, 2015, 10:18:31 AM
Thanks guys!
I just got home from work. We will enjoy a 4 day weekend! Hopefully I will get a few things done on my boat. Tonight after work with friends. :a0006: //Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on May 13, 2015, 06:36:58 PM
Enjoy your long weekend Lars :thumright: I was looking on Google earth and it looks like from your home it wouldn't take you long to get into some serious water (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/SwedenCapture.png) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=12114&title=swedencapture&cat=500)
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on May 14, 2015, 12:52:38 AM
Yes, the archipelago is pretty thin just here where we live. There are thousands of islands both north and south. Some winters you can ice skate to the islands in February, and 3-4 months later you can go swimming. I admit, no Florida temps in the water. We are happy to get 68-75 degrees in the water for 3 months. The Baltic is fairly shallow, and waves can build and become pretty treacherous. Usually we have a sea breeze of 5-8 m/s in the summer. That is 11-18 m/h winds. I will try to find some more on line sea charts, and post pictures and links here.
I'm helping my brother this morning. We will put the mast on his 6mR.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on May 14, 2015, 06:03:07 AM
http://silvervingen31.blogspot.se/
Some fresh pictures from this morning.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on May 14, 2015, 06:52:33 AM
I guess it's official, spring has arrived there :coolth: Nice looking boat.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on May 14, 2015, 07:28:55 AM
Thanks Rick!
It has. Spring was early this year, but has been very slow. No warm temps yet. I have friends coming to visit from NC end of May... I hope it is a bit warmer then. I'm in my man cave with a slight fever now... Not feeling like doing much. I have a four day weekend and was really hoping to do a lot on my boat... But, I will rest today and hopefully feel better tomorrow.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on May 14, 2015, 07:35:13 AM
Posting a couple of pictures of the sea charts of the coast outside my home town. http://kartor.eniro.se/
I'm not normally a sailboat fan, but that is one sweet looking sailboat! He did a great job on the restoration. You guys must have that in your blood!
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on May 14, 2015, 03:42:46 PM
A ton of wood, for sure. Hope it has some kind of non-skid on it, or you have to wear suction cup shoes when it's wet ;-)
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on May 15, 2015, 01:25:39 AM
Thanks guys! My brothers boat is impressive. It's a cool boat to sail too. He also has a 1984 Boston Whaler Montauk 17. Two American boats in our family. I was looking for a Whaler when I found my Aquasport 170. I'm glad I did. I love it. //Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on May 24, 2015, 06:48:01 AM
Nice weather here in Sweden today. My cough is almost gone. 7 hours wet sanding and polishing yesterday... You can't tell before and after when you take a picture. 1 hour masking and painting today, and the result's very visible. (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/IMG_20150524_120356.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=12154&title=img-20150524-120356&cat=500)
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on May 24, 2015, 06:51:30 AM
Looks like you have the inside all shined up and the floor looks great :great02: The only thing in my boat that will hopefully be shiny gelcoat will be the liner sides - hope mine comes out as well as yours has.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on May 24, 2015, 07:36:53 AM
Thanks Rick,
I will polish some more on the inner liner, and also paint the area around the bow hatches. I had paint with "sand" in it for the floor. I don't like having that type paint on vertical surfaces and around the hatches. New paint will be purchased for the bow area. It is beautiful here today! 74 degrees and clear blue sky! I will paint some topcoat now while it's nice and warm. //Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on May 26, 2015, 03:32:14 PM
Worked on my center console tonight. Will finish sanding tomorrow and hopefully paint the first coat of Poly urethane paint tomorrow. Weather permitting that is... ;-)
I can't wait to start the reassembly for real, with the steering, engine etc. It will be fun.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 03, 2015, 03:28:00 PM
We had the coldest May since 200 years this year... My center console is hardening inside. I had to bring it in to my hobby room for it to harden... I applied the Aquasport stickers today! Small but fun job. We have strong winds here right now, but it brings warm weather. I hope to do a lot this weekend.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on June 03, 2015, 06:18:08 PM
Looks good Lars - keep it up, the light in the tunnel will be in your face soon. I washed the boat down last weekend in prep of spraying primer but the weather was spotty rain most of the weekend. I sprayed bleach on the roof of the house instead and let the rain wash off the mold. Looks good this weekend so far.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 04, 2015, 02:16:07 AM
Thanks Rick!
I can't wait to install the rub rail. Hopefully on Saturday. It is warming up here finally... I will also finish the fuel tank install and prepare to install the center console.
It is fun to see it come together again.
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 04, 2015, 02:59:17 PM
Spent a few hours sanding the center console today. Will paint final top coat tomorrow. I will also paint the area around the bow hatches grey tomorrow. Finalized the fuel tank installation today. Getting the center console ready for assembly will be really cool. I hope to start the assembly on Saturday. Once the paint has dried.
More pictures tomorrow.
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: CLM65 on June 04, 2015, 03:58:26 PM
Great progress Lars!
Do you have many airborne critters where you live? Around here we have many, and love bugs arrive in swarms in the early summer and fall. They make painting outdoors rather interesting. I think Rick had to deal with them when he painted his console. Hopefully they don't show up again when he paints his hull.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 04, 2015, 11:17:26 PM
Compared to Florida, I would say very few. It also depends on what time of the day I paint. I might go ahead and paint inside my hobby room today to avoid just that. I plan a afternoon off today. Finish sanding the console, and painting the final coat. I also plan to paint the grey area in the bow. It is supposed to be raining tomorrow, which means, painting today and I can install stuff tomorrow. More pictures to come after today's work.
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 06, 2015, 12:46:51 PM
The day started pretty bad for me... I took the new Baystar hydraulic steering out of the box, just to realize the old hole in the freshly painted console was way too big... The new hydraulic steering box went straight through the old hole... I thought these parts where standard, but I learned something new today. Took my bike down to the marina, just to realize that it's the Swedish national day today, and everything is closed... I had no polyester resin at the house... Went home and called my buddy who has the company where I spent Christmas and New Years, and man, was I lucky. He was working. I drove to his company and he gave me 5 pounds of resin for free! Things where looking better. I went home and fiber glassed the hell out of the backside of the console. I built up 1/2" of laminate. Took a walk to the harbor with my wife to look at some of the festivities. It started to rain, went home, took a nap, and then installed the rest of the parts on the console. I'm happy with the day, even if I had hoped to do a lot more. There are two more screws holding the windshield now. I had to wait for my nephew to come home and help me. (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/IMG_20150606_175813.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=12254&title=img-20150606-175813&cat=500) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/IMG_20150606_175827.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=12255&title=img-20150606-175827&cat=500)
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Post by: RickK on June 06, 2015, 01:08:24 PM
Looks really good Lars. :salut2: I know how you feel - I washed the boat off this morning (and the console) and it dryed nice and clean and right after that it started to rain - so no spraying for me today (I need a warehouse....) I did make up some "pads" that I will glue onto the bottom of the transom on each side to screw transducers and whatever else might need to be mounted so I don't have to screw into my transom. So maybe it was a good thing it rained....
Check out the new Sales Books I uploaded to the gallery - one is a 80/81 and another is a 81/82. Front page of the gallery all the way at the bottom.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 06, 2015, 01:36:01 PM
Thanks Rick!
I will check it out. I'm sorry it rained for you too. I got a nap, and that felt good. I slept really bad this past week. Loads of stuff at work, and I might have a shot at a new job within Schneider Electric. I hope I get a call on Monday.
We are planning a trip to the US in November. I would like to drive to Florida to meet my mothers Aunt that I have not seen in 7 years. It would be cool to swing by and meet you.
Tomorrow I will install hinges on the bow hatch covers, try to get the hydraulic hoses from the center console to the rear of the boat. I should have installed two conduits, but screwed up... I think I can solve it, time will tell.
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on June 06, 2015, 02:40:16 PM
We'll keep our fingers crossed for you getting the new job!! As for November, looking at my calendar, I should be here.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 07, 2015, 11:32:18 AM
Hello Rick,
If I can get the two weeks off work, we will try to do Florida too.
I installed some hinges today and latches. Nothing big, but it takes time...
Something on the boat every day is what I'm trying to do.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: Callyb on June 07, 2015, 11:47:41 AM
That console looks really good! :thumleft:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 07, 2015, 01:59:51 PM
Thanks!
It is getting there. Depending on how much I can do this week, I would like to install the engine within the next couple of weeks. There are still a lot of things that needs to be done before the engine install. I would like to finish the boat before July 10th. We have good friends visiting from the US, and I would love to have the boat ready by then.
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 07, 2015, 03:57:22 PM
My brother came in (he lives next door) and helped me move the center console close to where it will be installed. The picture is taken at 9:54 PM... It is a lot of daylight here in Sweden right now. (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/IMG_20150607_215409.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=12323&title=img-20150607-215409&cat=500)
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on June 07, 2015, 04:08:11 PM
Looking like a boat again :great02:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 07, 2015, 05:25:07 PM
Thanks Rick! It sure feels good. :nSalute:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: CLM65 on June 07, 2015, 09:26:47 PM
The progress you and Rick are making is making me jealous. Looking great, Lars :thumleft:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 08, 2015, 01:58:37 AM
Thanks Craig,
I do not compare my restoration with Rick's. He is doing a fantastic job on his boat. I have a couple of jobs this week that I'm a bit nervous about. I will post pictures after... I don't want to jinx it...
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: jfret on June 08, 2015, 09:37:51 AM
Hello Lars.....I've been following your rebuild thread for a while and wanted to tell you your boat is looking really good. I'm also doing a rebuild on a 1974 Aquasport 196, but I am a newbie to boat buiding so I don't have much advice to offer other than keep up the good work....the guys here an CA have helped me a lot. Looking at all the progress on all the rebuild threads keep me motivated. I also see that you work for Schneider Electric......I work with an application of utilities management software that Schneider Electric now owns called Fiber Manager.....Big Company, Small World.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 08, 2015, 10:11:47 AM
Hello jfretwell,
Great to hear you get some inspiration from my/our builds. I have gotten a lot of help from this forum too. Great to be around friends with this project. I would have felt very alone (only Aquasport 170 in Sweden???) with this project had it not been for this forum.
Cool, you work for Schneider-Electric too! It is a huge company anymore. I have been with them since May 2004. I hope to stay on for another 15 years... ;)
I hope your restoration is progressing too. I will check the forum for 196 boats and see if you have posted any pictures.
All the best,
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 08, 2015, 02:46:37 PM
Installed my hydraulic steering hoses tonight, and also the control wires for the Merc. I had great help from my 13 year old nephew. I could not have done it without his help. (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/IMG_20150608_202937.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=12324&title=img-20150608-202937&cat=500)
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 12, 2015, 01:42:02 PM
Finally warm here in Sweden! 80 degrees today! 76 right now at 7:40PM. I installed the rub rail today! Feels great. The white trim was a pain, even if I warmed the crap out of it. I still have 4 feet to go. I took the picture to make it look like it was 100% done. I hope everyone is having a nice Friday!
Greetings from Sweden! //Lars (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/IMG_20150612_193650.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=12336&title=img-20150612-193650&cat=500)
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 13, 2015, 03:50:38 AM
Finally finished the rub rail this morning. This is a job I'm glad to have behind me. Installing the white trim was a pain. I figured out a special tool I duck taped the sharp end of a crow bar, and pushed the trim in place. Still a back breaking job 3/4 of an inch at the time... Now it is done!
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on June 13, 2015, 06:11:35 AM
Looks really nice Lars, the finishing touch. :thumleft: I remember going through the same hell when I installed the rope insert on my rubrail even though I lubed it with dish soap. A buddy and I figured out that we needed to use a 3/4" piece of conduit cut at a 45 and we ran the rope through it - we inserted the conduit into the slot and had to beat it around the boat and the rope laid into the slot as we went. Took a couple hours and almost killed us (it seemed). Then after 4 or 5 years it shrunk about a foot :roll: What brand rubrail did you use?
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 13, 2015, 07:52:36 AM
Hello Rick,
The rub rail brand is for me unknown... I bought it from the biggest boat store in Stockholm ( like West marine) called Seasea.
They have only prime products in stock, time will tell if that also goes for the rub rail...
My arms are hurting now... Feels good to have the rub rail in place. One question. Where I go around the corners, it bulges up. Should I cut out a triangle and glue it down to make it flat?
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: CLM65 on June 13, 2015, 08:54:33 AM
Looking good Lars! When I replaced the insert on my 205 a few years ago, I used a heat gun to warm it up a little. It was still a pain, but it goes in much easier when it is soft. You might try heating up your corners a little bit to see if they will lay down better.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: williecoyote on June 13, 2015, 10:30:24 AM
Your boat is really shaping up nicely. I enjoy watching your progress.
Your brother's sailboat is beautiful! Is there any rivalry going on between the two of you?
Keep up the good work.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 13, 2015, 11:49:54 AM
Hello Williecoyote,
No, no rivalry between us. He is the master ships builder. What he can not create in wood does not exist. I'm the computer guy, fiberglass guy and tech nerd... We complement each other pretty good. But I don't compare myself with him when it comes to boat restoration...
I bolted in my center console this afternoon. Half the day went to go mow grass at our cottage. It is on an island, and I had to use my old piece of crap boat to get there. I can't wait to launch my Aquasport.
I also started with the electrical system today. The main harness between the console and the engine is in place. Posting a couple of pictures from earlier today.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on June 13, 2015, 03:35:15 PM
Nice pics Lars :coolth: Do I see a power pole behind the cottage? What did you use for the wood trim that is normally under the console? The rain here is in it's summer like pattern already it feels like and the temps are soaring already too.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 14, 2015, 02:02:29 AM
Hello Rick,
I think it's a telephone pole or a power pole.
I used thickened polyester resin and filled up the edge around the base. That way it can never rot again, since my boat will be in the water for 4-6 months every season.
I hope my brother has time to help me with some wood trim today. I will post pictures later.
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 15, 2015, 03:46:32 PM
Working on varnishing the teak trim pieces. My brother helped me repair and make a couple of new pieces. In return he insisted on me varnishing the wood trim. It looks great. I already have 2 coats of teak varnish on the parts. Tomorrow a third coat, and if needed a 4th on Thursday. By Friday or Saturday, I hope it is engine install time! I can't wait! Since I have Seacast in my transom, do you guys think I need to put stainless steel on the transom, or can I just bolt the motor to the transom?
Any ideas welcome.
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on June 15, 2015, 04:10:57 PM
I am putting these on my transom - http://www.cmcmarineproducts.com/products/Motor-Mount-Accessories/CMC-Machined-Transom-Support-Plates- they're designed to spread the impact of the bolts so you don't crush the wood coring. Since you have Seacast crushing the wood is not possible but I think I would at least put some big washers to spread the impact, maybe 1/8" thick aluminum. Email the guy in Michigan and see what he suggests.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 16, 2015, 12:23:34 AM
I will call the guy in Michigan and ask. Great idea! Seacast also has a Facebook page, I will root around a little there too.
Thanks Rick!
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 16, 2015, 02:16:18 PM
A sneak preview... I varnished the trim again tonight. Tomorrow night I will install it on the boat. Getting closer to the big Merc install!
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on June 16, 2015, 02:36:51 PM
:whistle:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 16, 2015, 02:57:56 PM
:thumleft: Thanks Rick!
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: CLM65 on June 16, 2015, 03:48:19 PM
That's gonna look sweet!
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on June 16, 2015, 08:12:24 PM
Is varnish very hardy - meaning low maintenance? I know it's used on a lot of boats on their "brightwork" but also hear of the nightmare to maintain it.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 17, 2015, 05:01:07 AM
The varnish I use is a special teak varnish. My brother use it on his Boston Whaler Montauk. I have made the trim pieces easy to remove and plan one sanding and new coat of varnish per year. I think as long as you do that it will remain good looking.
I hope to post some pictures tonight after the wood is installed.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 17, 2015, 03:32:32 PM
Rain here in Sweden tonight. We are celebrating Midsummer here in Sweden this Friday. It is a nice Viking tradition... The longest day of the year. Unfortunately it looks like the weather is going to suck... I did go out in the rain, and install my teak tonight. I just couldn't wait to see how it would look. I still need to clean the floor, but I took a couple of pictures to show you guys the progress. Now it looks like we will do the engine install on Friday morning. I will prepare everything tomorrow.
I bought the pop up cleats for 9 bucks on a sale here in Sweden. The new stainless steel rod holders, I bought at Overtons in Raleigh NC in November. Feels good to finally install them.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on June 17, 2015, 03:47:17 PM
SWEET!! All dressed up for the prom now :drool:
Nice job Lars!!
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 17, 2015, 04:01:12 PM
Thanks Rick!
I have to admit I had great help from my brother with the wood. He is a magician when it comes to wood. Feels good, I hope to install the Mercury either tomorrow or Friday morning.
:thumleft:
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: CLM65 on June 17, 2015, 08:54:06 PM
The teak is a nice touch, Lars! Looks great!
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: SJerseyAQSP on June 17, 2015, 10:02:00 PM
Beautiful Job !
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 18, 2015, 01:22:48 AM
Thanks guys!
I had a little help from my brother. He is the wood restorer master in our family. Pretty cool, how the teak can look totally wasted, and come to life with some scraping and sanding and varnishing.
Tonight I will prepare the big engine lift. Nervous but excited about it.
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 18, 2015, 02:14:36 PM
It is done! The Mercury is bolted to the transom! Feels great! We used a hydraulic engine hoist that we borrowed from my brothers work. Drove and picked it up tonight. It was supposed to rain tonight, but it didn't. We started to move the Merc out of the shed, and everything went smooth, and in about 30 minutes it was installed on the boat. Feels super. We are celebrating midsummer tomorrow, and will enjoy a beer now and relax.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on June 18, 2015, 02:16:13 PM
Cool!! Did you drill the bottom holes?
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 18, 2015, 02:24:12 PM
Hello Rick,
We installed the engine with the top bolts. Turned it left to drill a starting hole on the right and wise versa. Temporarily unbolting it, pulling it right then left and drilled the bottom holes. I'm very happy with the result.
Everything went really smooth. //Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: CLM65 on June 18, 2015, 02:42:32 PM
Congrats! Having the motor installed will make that cold one taste that much better! :singing:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 18, 2015, 02:44:59 PM
Cheers Craig! It sure did. It tasted so good, we are going for no 2 now... :singing:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 18, 2015, 04:59:01 PM
Posting two more pictures. Happy Midsummer everyone!
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on June 18, 2015, 05:38:20 PM
Looks like a new boat - you should be proud :nSalute:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: williecoyote on June 18, 2015, 08:40:01 PM
It is still Thursday here in NC, but Happy Midsummer to you!! Drink one for me!
I love the bright work accents on your boat.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 19, 2015, 12:59:59 AM
Thanks Rick and Willie,
It sure feels good to get the Mercury installed. Even my wife looked happy when she got home from work. Maybe now she believes we will be able to use it this summer. ;-)
Today I will be working under the tent roof. It is raining cats and dogs...
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: jfret on June 19, 2015, 10:49:21 AM
Looks awesome lars. :thumright:.....got to get back to work on mine but it's been in the upper 90's for 2 weeks.....hit 100 degrees on Wed and Thursday.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 20, 2015, 03:19:58 AM
I don't have that problem here... It was cold yesterday, that Epoxy would not cure outside... I installed the hydraulic steering yesterday. Will finish bleeding it today. We ran out of time and had to get ready for dinner...
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 20, 2015, 01:16:00 PM
Rain again today... I have to admit I had a slow morning after the midsummer festivities last night... I bled the hydraulic steering, and started installing the speed and water temp sensor. I also put the flag up! Looks pretty sweet if I'm allowed to say so.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on June 20, 2015, 01:33:26 PM
Is the hydraulic steering integral to the engine on the new ones? The flag is a nice touch :thumleft:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 20, 2015, 01:42:02 PM
Hello Rick,
I bought a Baystar hydraulic steering. It was pretty straight forward to install. The kit is good for engines up to 150hp. It mounts to the motor with one bolt. Very easy. No extra brackets or anything needed. On the motor side, it has fittings on the hoses that seals with o-rings. Where the hoses attach at the steering wheel hub, there is a very smart fitting that also seals with an o-ring, but you can cut the hoses to length. I love the kit. I highly recommend it. This system has valves in it that removes the engine "pull". Makes the boat easy to steer. Tomorrow I will start to install the electrical system. I need to buy a battery, marine grade wires for my nav lights, bilge pump etc. I also need to buy a white nav light for the starboard side.
Did you work on your boat today? It rained for 36 hours here... It finally stopped... I hope to do more tomorrow.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on June 20, 2015, 01:46:53 PM
I think the new bigger mercs have the hydraulics built in them :think: maybe it's another brand?
Working on the boat? Yes, got the bottom primed again and worked on the console. It's hanging in the tree out front right now, getting ready to go out and spray gelcoat/duratec on it. Had to take a heat break. Have some rogue storms around right now - may have to wait a bit.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 20, 2015, 01:50:38 PM
60 degrees here... No need for heat breaks...
I wish I could buy duratec here.
Have a good afternoon. Your boat will be awesome! :thumleft: It already is.
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on June 20, 2015, 01:54:30 PM
That baby is going to scream with that 115 on her. It'll be a blast - instant facelift when you get out from behind the windshield :shocked: Raining here now.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 20, 2015, 01:58:19 PM
I hope I will be faster than my brother's Boston Whaler Montauk 17... He has got a Johnson 115hp from 2000 on his boat.
Time will tell... :13:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on June 20, 2015, 02:52:00 PM
I hope I will be faster than my brother's Boston Whaler Montauk 17... He has got a Johnson 115hp from 2000 on his boat.
Time will tell... :13:
Ahh , a little sibling rivalry.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 21, 2015, 12:50:45 AM
We both claim it doesn't mean anything, but I know it is going to suck for who ever is the slowest... ;-)
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: jfret on June 22, 2015, 09:31:49 AM
Looks great Lars.......In the words of the great Arthur 'Fonzie' Fonzarelli....it ain't how fast you get there, it's how good you look on the way! :8):
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 22, 2015, 03:34:46 PM
That's a good one jfret!
I will remember that line if he is faster than me...
I added the name to the boat today, and also a pitot sensor kit 881879a22 on the Optimax. The sensor kit was pretty difficult to install, due to really bad instructions... I called a buddy of mine over, and between the two of us we figured it out.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on June 22, 2015, 04:14:56 PM
Looks good Lars. The name will impress your friends coming over, for sure. So the pitot is a speed pitot? Do you have a chartplotter with GPS or a multifunction device? Reason I ask is maybe you didn't need to install it unless the motor needs it.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 22, 2015, 04:32:22 PM
Hello Rick.
I have digital instruments that will use that signal... I have been told...
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: Capt. Bob on June 22, 2015, 05:04:08 PM
I have digital instruments that will use that signal... I have been told...
My 91 Yamaha has one in the lower unit housing. When it functions correctly (no seaweed/hose not pinched) it is pretty accurate when compared with the GPS reading. I'm impressed, since every speedo I've owned prior wasn't really............................ that impressive. :roll:
Let us know how it works out. :thumright:
Carolina Girl......did I miss something? :?:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 22, 2015, 05:31:46 PM
Hello Captain Bob,
My step daughter is born in North Carolina. It's also a song by general Johnson and chairman of the board. I might not have gotten that spelled correctly... I have a tilt sensor to install tomorrow, but I need per to tilt the motor up to be able to fit it.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on June 22, 2015, 05:54:27 PM
Ahhh, mystery solved - she should be impressed also :thumleft:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 25, 2015, 02:58:25 PM
We shook hands at my interview yesterday. Now I'm waiting for the contract to sign. Feels pretty good, but will feel even better when it is signed. I'm working on the electrical installation tonight. I need to go buy, wires 4 colors, shrink tubing and a few other bits and pieces tomorrow. I'm cutting one of the cables to be able to route everything to the center console. I think it is pretty weird how they have done it, but it makes sense if you have a compartment 2-2.5 feet from the engine. Then the cable is long enough... I will have to run it in the black conduit, and extend the cables. I have checked and it is OK to lengthen them. Friday tomorrow! I can't wait for the weekend to arrive. I drove 600 miles yesterday... the last 300 without stopping. I came home and did a few things on the boat... :thumleft:
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on June 25, 2015, 04:38:39 PM
Congrats on the new job Lars !! :06: :103: :singing: Hopefully the new job is not going to be 300 miles away :huh02:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 26, 2015, 01:14:56 AM
Thanks Rick! It sure feels good. The job is here in town. 5 minutes by car. I can't complain... It will require some travelling, but not too bad.
I hope to hear from them with a contract to sign in the next couple of days.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 26, 2015, 01:14:51 PM
I'm working on the electrical system tonight. Hopefully I'm getting close to have all the wires fed through the conduit to the center console. I think all is fed through, but the trim sender kit remains to be installed. It looks like it plugs in to the motor, but the pictures suck, and will take a while to figure out...
Has anyone installed a trim sender kit on the OptiMax?
I'm having a beer too. It has been a challenging week at work. :a0006:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 27, 2015, 12:15:18 PM
I have been working on the electrical system all day today... It is very time consuming and a bit hard... I can report beautiful weather here in Sweden. 75 degrees and clear blue sky. ;-)
I drilled a too big hole for the starter key assembly... I had to thicken epoxy and fill the hole back up... The nut on the key assembly will cover up the epoxy repair... :67: Don't tell anyone... I cut a 3/4" plywood, routed the edges (thanks brother) painted it white. Installed it inside the console to give me somewhere to fix the electrical stuff. Tomorrow I will try to bring order to the mess. Right now I'm focused on getting everything hooked up correct...
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: tyson87 on June 28, 2015, 07:25:22 AM
How did you attach the plywood to the console?
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: Callyb on June 28, 2015, 10:29:04 AM
Lars, I just went back and looked at your work. VERY, VERY NICE! You did a fantastic job! :bravo_2:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 28, 2015, 11:24:53 AM
Tyson 87,
I just took some adhesive stuff, it's called Sikaflex over here and four screws. The screws just to hold it until the adhesive has hardened.
Thanks Callyb,
It has been a lot of work. I did install the start button this morning, but spent the day outside mowing grass, and enjoyed the sun. I will be back at it tomorrow night after work.
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 28, 2015, 12:27:05 PM
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on June 28, 2015, 03:25:28 PM
Looks like a nice place to hang out - water is really blue :thumleft: Nice pics.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 28, 2015, 03:56:27 PM
Thanks Rick! We are looking forward to some nicer weather finally. May and June was colder than normal. Today was nice, 77 degrees and sunny. To hot in my tent. I have the tilt sensor, fuel sensor left to install, and then I need to clean up the installation... I don't want it to look like a rats nest...
I'm kind of playing with the idea to take a day off on Friday, and do the maiden voyage... Time will tell...
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on June 28, 2015, 05:33:10 PM
You're soooo close to being done too - where is my envy emoticon. I have a kinda science project going on back on the transom of my 170 so that the hydraulic steering clears the transom. I need 7- 7 1/2" clearance. I have a 5.5" setback jackplate plus bought a 2" additional spacer plus I just bought a standoff bracket for my power pole that is 1/2" thick, so I should be good now.
Is there a break-in period on the new motor?
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 29, 2015, 12:22:34 AM
Hi Rick,
Yes, 10 hours when the motor gets extra oil. You are supposed to alter the revs every 10 minutes. I will read the manual again before start up. There is also a way to prime the oil pump, that has to be done before you start the motor. It purges the air out of the oil pump.
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 29, 2015, 03:59:53 PM
Hooked up the battery today and tilted the Merc up and down for the first time! Really cool. I installed the new tilt sensor and basically have the engine install done. I made a frame of plywood for the battery, and added a strap over the battery. Tomorrow I will continue with the electrical install and finish up a few things on the list. If everything keeps progressing like this, I might do a test run on Friday! I will have the bilge pump and nav lights installed, but try the boat before I finish up the electrical system. I need to paint the bottom, wax and polish the sides one more time. Should be plenty of time to do that before Friday...
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on July 01, 2015, 04:15:40 PM
Tomorrow will be an exiting day. Tonight I finished the electrical and gas system. At least mark I of it. I will buy a chart plotter for the boat still. I will get an insurance on the boat tomorrow. There are also a couple of smaller jobs to do and the bottom to paint... I still have not given up a test drive on Friday. If not Friday, Saturday should be it. Tomorrow I will calibrate the fuel sensor, prime the oil pump and finish up the smaller tasks that needs to be done. Friday morning, before it gets too warm I will paint the bottom. I got the new job! I agreed on the contract today, it will get official in two weeks. :thumleft: The reason is that there are laws over here that they have to put the job out for grabs... But I already got it...
Nav lights, bilge pump, side lights, compass back light, GPS and horn to come...
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: CLM65 on July 01, 2015, 05:25:54 PM
Looks great, Lars! And congratulations on the job :singing:!
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on July 01, 2015, 05:54:15 PM
That's super on the Job news :cheers:
Boats looking great. Are you buying a multi function device - chartplotter and fishfinder? If you buy one with internal antenna that'll save you a wire pull (possibly) and a mounting conundrum, but you'll have to mount the transducer on the transom, so a wire pull for that. Did you pull an extra pull string to the aft?
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on July 02, 2015, 09:04:13 AM
Thanks guys!
I signed today, and start my new job on September 1st. Feels really good. I'm taking a day of vacation. My boat is insured now. Ready for launch... I just need to do a couple of things first... The insurance company did not find Aquasport 170 in their database... I had pictures and hull+ motor number and everything went fine.
The weather is beautiful here with temps at 85 deg F! Like Florida in the winter... ;-)
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on July 02, 2015, 11:28:34 AM
Rick,
I have not made up my mind on what to get yet. I might start without. I have been around the archipelago here since I was a kid. I have an extra conduit for this purpose. I'm glad I do It is warm here... Fixing to prime the oil pump in the engine and prepare to start her up tomorrow.
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on July 03, 2015, 04:04:11 AM
:06: I started the Merc for the first time in the drive way today! It fired right up! I'm very happy and will go for a test ride this afternoon. I still have a couple of things to finish up.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: fitz73222 on July 03, 2015, 04:35:39 AM
Good luck Lars, You're 6 hours ahead of us here on the east coast so you should be getting ready to go about now. Oh and by the way. I'll bet you are going to walk away from your brothers Whaler so 337.15 Krone ($50 US) would be a fine wager with your brother!
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: fitz73222 on July 03, 2015, 04:48:40 AM
Oops, Sweden 417.01,wrong Krona!!!! Send pics of him handing you the money! Lol
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on July 03, 2015, 05:07:25 AM
:salut2:
Thanks fitz73222!
It's 11AM here, and I'm finishing up the last little things. I hope to be on the water within the next couple of hours. It will feel awesome! It has been quite a lot of hours to get to where I'm at now.
I will make a bet with him and post a picture of him handing me the crowns!
Thanks again!
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on July 03, 2015, 05:26:36 AM
Enjoy Lars :nSalute: Don't forget the drain plug, you can get a little rusty on your pre-launch routine after all this time (I know I will be on launching my 170) ;-)
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on July 04, 2015, 02:11:23 AM
Thanks guys!
We had a great afternoon in the archipelago yesterday. It is NC hot here right now, with 90 degree weather to be expected today. My wife likes it. I'm posting some pictures from the maiden voyage! I brought Gustav, my nephew along as Captain. We had a great trip.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: fitz73222 on July 04, 2015, 04:50:18 AM
Hi Lars, I know you may have not gotten through the engine break in process but any performance numbers to discuss? How did she run? I'm not aware of anyone running a 115 Opti on a 170. How did your scuppers do, hole shot, porposing, did you get a chance to put the throttle down even briefly? Inquiring minds want to know!!!
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on July 04, 2015, 11:37:46 AM
Hello,
Scuppers are doing fine. I'm glad I moved them up 3/4". No performance data yet. I have been concentrating on keeping the revs varied. I have 3.5 hours on the merc now. Will do more tomorrow. This week I plan to move her to my mooring.
Once I'm done with the break in, I will post some performance figures. It picks up and goes. No doubt about it... :nSalute:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on July 04, 2015, 01:12:46 PM
Several times today, people made the thumbs up and told us what a nice boat we had. It is unique over here, I'm not sure how many Aquasport 170 there are in Sweden, but I have not found another one yet. :cool2:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on July 04, 2015, 03:43:52 PM
You earned those :thumleft: So everything is pretty much done?
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on July 05, 2015, 04:12:00 AM
Hello Rick,
There are still stuff to do, but I will enjoy it during the summer and finish the details next winter. The backrest is missing and I need cushions to sit on etc. The electrical system needs to be cleaned up and made pretty. I just ran out of time. We have friends from NC visiting next week. I wanted to have the boat ready for them.
I think I need to go down one or two pitch sizes on the prop. I don't see the high revs.
Next winter I will paint the floor one more time, and paint the underside of the hatch covers with top coat.
There is always something to do on an old boat. ;)
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on July 05, 2015, 12:19:28 PM
I removed the tent I used when restoring the Aquasport today. Hot here in Sweden, and I drank a gallon of water while doing it... Wife is happy, but no boating today... I will hopefully take her out again this week.
I hope everyone had a nice weekend.
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on July 05, 2015, 04:16:05 PM
My brother and I rode our bikes down to the marina and had a beer in my Aquasport tonight. I also covered the center console, since we will get some rain this week. You can see the scuppers with two guys in the boat. I'm very happy with the result. The boat is bone dry inside too. We checked tonight.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: CLM65 on July 05, 2015, 05:05:40 PM
She looks great, Lars! You should be very proud!
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on July 05, 2015, 05:14:23 PM
Yup, very purdy :nSalute: I see the scuppers are just above the trough height - nice planning. Over here birds like to sit on the motor cowlings and decorate them - you need a cover for that new motor cowling.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on July 05, 2015, 05:18:20 PM
They do here too... Yes, I will get a cover for it. I will also get a cover for the center console. I can't wait to take the boat out again. I will shoot some video and post YouTube link.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on July 07, 2015, 04:00:41 PM
We took the boat out for a spin tonight. Very windy today, and we only did some time on the engine. I also started to install the new fuel sender that I received today. This one works with the Mercury smart craft system. The Euro style fuel sender didn't. I brought tools to the harbor, but not a short ph2 screw driver... I will finalize the install tomorrow night.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on July 12, 2015, 03:04:21 PM
Had a fun day on the Baltic with our good friends from NC today. I was glad I had 115hp to move the boat going back. We out ran the rain. The forecast said no rain and no wind... I'm glad I'm used to these waters since I was a kid. The weather acted strange, and we left the cottage early. I'm glad we did. Strong winds and lurking rain, but we managed to get home before the rain.
By the way, finally a picture of me driving the boat. Thanks to Cliff who took the picture.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on July 29, 2015, 04:03:19 PM
We finally got a half a day of decent weather here today. It has been bad for almost 5 days. The Merc now has 10+ hours on it and is finally broke in. Feels good. Tomorrow the forecast is really bad weather, but if they are wrong, we will go out again. The picture showing my buddy Michael at the helm.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on July 29, 2015, 06:23:53 PM
Have you tried a different prop yet? Maybe a prop house will let you try out a couple to dial it in before you buy?
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on July 30, 2015, 02:44:16 AM
Hello Rick,
The place where I bought the prop, will let me trade until I'm happy. I'm getting 5100 rpm and 33 knots right now. I just finished the engine break in period yesterday. The weather is really on and off here. I might go back out today, but don't know yet. It all depends what the weather is doing.
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on August 01, 2015, 10:48:42 AM
Hello guys,
Today I worked on the engine trim, and got 35 knots on the speedometer. Went for a nice boat trip, with stop at the cottage for an hour nap... ;-) I got so excited that I never checked the revs when I did 35 knots... I will test again.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on August 01, 2015, 06:42:56 PM
How'd you do compared to the whaler? Did you have to buy the beer? Hope not :party: 35 knots is 40 mph - with a new 115 I would think that you'd get close to 50mph (43knots).
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on August 02, 2015, 02:55:00 AM
The Whaler is doing 34.7 knots, but that was with three people in it. I will try again, do you think the break in period has something to do with it? That the computer limits the engine?
I will take her out again today and try again.
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: fitz73222 on August 02, 2015, 04:59:17 AM
Hi Lars, What is the rated full throttle RPM that is stated for your engine and what pitch propeller are you running? I have a feeling you are over propped if your only turning 5100 rpm.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on August 02, 2015, 03:09:01 PM
It's 5700 rpm's. I agree, I think I need to have a prop with less pitch. I tried to read my prop pitch today, but I didn't bring my glasses... Do I need to say more. I used to have perfect vision, but since about a year ago, I need reading glasses. My nephew will come with me tomorrow, I will ask him to read the prop, and I will post the size and pitch here.
Thanks for your support!
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on August 02, 2015, 04:30:11 PM
I started needing reading glasses when I hit mid forties. Been downhill ever since :c002:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: fitz73222 on August 02, 2015, 05:00:21 PM
Yep about 46 for me for the bifocals. Anyway, check the pitch, I'm thinking you have a 21 pitch on there now and a 19 should get you where you need to be, maybe even a 17 it depends on your gear ratio. Then say by by to your brothers 17 Whaler, which looks to be in very nice shape, he keeps up on his mahogany and teak! Also do your prop testing with your normal load of passengers and fuel.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on August 04, 2015, 10:54:45 AM
Thanks for your prop input. Very helpful. I will check this weekend what my pitch is, I forgot when we docked yesterday. I have no experience with this stuff, but I can clearly feel the boat not accelerating the way it should. With the old 120hp Evinrude, it jumped out of the water. Posting a couple of pictures from our trip yesterday.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on August 07, 2015, 01:02:12 PM
Hello guys,
Input welcome. I have a 13x19 Mercury prop on my 115 Optimax. 5100 rpm max and 35 knots.
The Mercury prop selector says go to a 13x17. Do you guys agree?
Thanks in advance,
Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: Capt. Bob on August 07, 2015, 02:11:58 PM
Well that should get you much closer to your rated WOT of 5700 (around 5500) so it will help.
Trim adjustment underway should get you real close.
Good luck.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: fitz73222 on August 07, 2015, 02:21:35 PM
Lars, The normal calculation is 200 rpm per inch of pitch change, so you should be fine with a 17 pitch and faster.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on August 08, 2015, 01:19:42 AM
Thanks guys, I will try a 13x17 prop next. I will post the results of course.
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on August 09, 2015, 12:12:01 PM
We had a beautiful day on the Baltic today. First we watched a swim run with more than 400 teams (2 people per team). I had two buddies competing. Afterwards, we took the longest ride we have done so far to a light house up the coast. We had lunch and waited for my brother and his family, who where sailing back from a classic yacht meet. My face is red from all the sun, but it was a super nice last day of summer vacation.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: Capt. Bob on August 09, 2015, 12:22:07 PM
Nice indeed but.....
Did you switch props?
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: CLM65 on August 09, 2015, 01:23:43 PM
Beautiful pics!
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on August 09, 2015, 02:18:59 PM
Thanks guys,
No, same prop still. I will call the guy tomorrow and see how we will do the "trade".
Beautiful day here today. I never wanted to go back to the mooring.
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on August 12, 2015, 03:54:06 PM
Since it is vacation times here in Sweden, and I have gotten no response from the company where I bought the Merc, I ordered a 13.25x 17 prop today. I will get it on Friday. No prop shops here where I live... I went to the marina who sells Mercury and asked if they had props in stock... The answer was no... I couldn't believe it... Posting a couple of pictures from tonight. Washed the boat and took it for a spin with my nephew, Gustav, the captain.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on August 12, 2015, 06:21:20 PM
Is there a local sailboat shop? I would bet there is.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on August 13, 2015, 10:12:36 AM
Yes Rick, you are right. I also live in a small town, if I go to Stockholm, I can find more stuff. We are going out again tonight. Fishing! If we catch anything, I will post pictures. //Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on August 20, 2015, 12:12:08 PM
I finally got my new prop today! 13 1/4" x 17" instead of the 19". Boat accelerates a lot better out of the hole, and top speed remains at 35 knots. Top rev about 5800 rpm's. I might try a 18" steel prop next season. The boat works and feels so much better now. Posting a picture from tonight.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on September 12, 2015, 06:56:23 AM
I ordered a 13x18" Vengeance prop today! I will also raise the motor two holes for next season. I had the motor serviced on Thursday. The guy is the best one with Mercs around here. He told me 24 hours and everything looked fine in the computer. It feels good to also have the warranty extended to 5 years. I can't wait to see how the boat will do with raised motor and steel prop! :8):
The boat is now in winter storage. I could keep it in the water another month, but with my new job and loads of travelling, it feels good to get this done. //Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on September 12, 2015, 07:43:21 AM
Man I know it's killing you to have to put her in storage and end the boating season already :73:
Boat looks good after sitting on a mooring all summer.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on September 12, 2015, 08:01:17 AM
Thanks Rick,
Yes it does. Having the ugly cover over the center console helps a lot. I will be gone 3-4 days a week for the next month and a half. Feels good to have her under roof. I covered her this morning with a light weight tarp. Opened all the port holes to allow everything to dry.
Are you working on your boat this weekend?
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on September 12, 2015, 09:34:45 AM
It is just starting to rain here so it doesn't look good for working on the boat right now. We have a front sagging through the area and will probably be here all day. I live inside the red circle so as you can see below, it's getting close. Can you say "couch day" :86:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on September 12, 2015, 10:40:26 AM
Sometimes it is nice to have a couch day. It cleared up here today for the most part, but we got a short shower this afternoon. I cleaned my Weber grill today. Felt good to get it nice and clean after all the BBQ ing this summer. :103: It is a big Weber, and it takes a couple of hours to clean the thing.
I'm excited about the prop. Will pick it up in Gothenburg when I'm down there on a business trip Monday a week from now.
I'm relaxing with a beer right now. Feels good after getting quite a lot of chores done today.
Have a great day on the couch! College football maybe? We subscribe to ESPN player, and can watch live and on demand games here in Sweden. My couch is taken... if not I would be on it right now... :chillpill:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: BOBBY74AQUA on September 12, 2015, 12:26:50 PM
Lars, Who are your favorite teams? Bobby
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on September 12, 2015, 12:48:02 PM
In football, it's NC State from North Carolina. In Basketball, it's Kentucky, and if they are no longer in the tournament, it would be Louisville.
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: BOBBY74AQUA on September 12, 2015, 02:58:08 PM
All I care about is as long as it's a Carolina Team.......Go DUKE
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on September 12, 2015, 04:12:53 PM
Here is front #2 on it's way down the state (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/Weather_9-12-15A.png) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=12904&title=weather-9-12-15a&cat=500)
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on September 13, 2015, 12:53:06 AM
Bobby, My wife is from Louisville, and she went to UK. If we are talking basketball, I have no other choice than to pull for Kentucky.
I'm with you. After 5.5 years in NC, I enjoy seeing any of the teams from there win.
Rick, you did get a couch day... That front looks like trouble if you want to be outside... Our weather here looks nice this morning. I hope to have an outdoors day today.
:thumleft: //Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on September 20, 2015, 12:47:04 PM
Went with my nephew to our cottage today. No Aquasport today, since Carolina Girl is in winter storage, but we got a nice ride in my brother's Boston Whaler Montauk 17. Posting some pictures from today. The weather was super nice, and I wish I had Carolina Girl in the water, but the new job takes a lot out of me. I'm glad my brother keeps the Whaler in the water.
19 pages in this thread and I'm still looking for the "blonde bombshell" you guys are famous for. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on September 21, 2015, 10:18:09 AM
Thanks Rick and Capt. Bob.
I will look in my photos for a Blond Bomb shell picture... ;)
I will keep posting nice pictures in this thread.
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on October 03, 2015, 12:05:02 PM
The prop got a bit shinier today, but I got pretty dirty... I bought a used Vengeance 18" and cancelled the order for the new one. I got this for less than half of a new one.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on October 03, 2015, 05:39:04 PM
Looks good Lars - glad you were able to cancel the one ordered - was it going to take forever to get the new one? Is the weather starting to turn cold now?
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on October 04, 2015, 01:10:13 AM
Hello Rick,
We are having a nice weekend, with temps at 68 degrees on Friday, 65 yesterday, and the same predicted for today. I found this one on our Craigslist just a day after I ordered the other one. They didn't have it in stock in Holland, and it was OK to cancel the order. If they had shipped it, I would have owned it... Since I travel Sweden a lot, I picked this one up in Gothenburg last week.
Props are almost double the price over here compared to the US. I got this one cheaper than I could buy a new one in the States. And they are quite heavy, plus the risk of someone stealing it from my suitcase. I don't think a prop is a great carry on item...
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on October 25, 2015, 01:18:49 PM
Spent a fun day in Stockholm yesterday with the seniors from my yacht club.
Visited a wooden boat yacht yard, and the old dry docks where they first put the Wasa ship in the 60's. Beautiful weather and great company.
Watched the 2nd video tonight and it looks like it is possible, with some confidence, that you can do it. Seems prep is one of the main success items. Thanks for posting this Lars. I think we'll copy this portion to the resource folder.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on November 21, 2015, 02:21:26 AM
Thanks Rick,
I stumbled on it on YouTube. I was also surprised.
28 degrees here in Sweden today. It is supposed to be a clear day with sunshine, but the days are short, and you better be out the short hours the sun is up... I will try to take some fall/winter pics today.
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on December 22, 2015, 01:39:52 AM
Boating season is not quite over yet here in Sweden.
My brother and I took my little boat (15hp merc) to our cottage to check on storm damage last weekend. It was quite cold... If we had known that a week later we would have had 54 degrees and sunny, we would have waited...
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on January 13, 2016, 05:13:13 AM
Nice pics Lars :thumleft: We're getting a cold blast here in Florida - temps down to below 40 in central Florida.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on January 13, 2016, 06:59:14 AM
They are prediction a cold snap here in Sweden on Friday and Saturday. Friday morning they are predicting -7.6 degrees F... This is extremely cold for here, and don't happen every year (Luckily). My heat pump will shut down and we will be heating with electric water heater for three days... Expensive... I will work from home on Friday and get a fire going in our fireplace to help the heat pump.
40 degrees in Florida must be cold for you guys.
We usually get a cold snap like this, and then it warms back up...
:thumleft:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on January 17, 2016, 11:35:53 AM
Hello guys,
I have a question for you. Do you know if I can order a center console cover for my 1981 Aquasport 170?
I would like to have a cover that covers the console itself.
Does anyone have any ideas?
thanks in advance,
Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on January 17, 2016, 12:36:32 PM
I think you'll need to get it made locally or maybe take all the measurements and send to your friends in the Carolinas and have them get it made and ship to you.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on January 23, 2016, 03:24:04 AM
OK, will do that. We are following the winter storm on CNN. I hope everyone that lives in the snowy areas stay safe.
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on March 24, 2016, 02:24:39 PM
Snow is gone here in Sweden. Spring is here! I bought a new toy for the boat today. A Garmin echoMap 71SV They were discounting the old model, and I picked this up at a bargain price. Feels good to have sea charts this year.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on March 24, 2016, 05:53:51 PM
Looks like a nice big screen :thumleft:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on March 25, 2016, 05:34:42 AM
Hello Rick!
I got the 7" model. It has a quick release system, and I figured 7" will do the trick. We have a lot of islands and under water rocks here off the coast, and it's nice to have a good GPS. I missed not having one last year.
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on April 03, 2016, 12:27:10 PM
We had a pencil grey Sunday here in Sweden today. Went with a buddy to our cottage to look at an old boat we have sitting there. Hopefully he will buy the project boat from us.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: MarcG on April 13, 2016, 11:05:23 PM
Hi Lars. Hope you're getting close to boating weather! I was wondering if you've tried the new prop yet. I'm still a ways from buying a motor for my project but I'm starting to think about what hp to go with. I think the original rating for our boats was 85, so I'd appreciate your thoughts on the 115 with the new prop you bought.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on April 27, 2016, 01:43:04 AM
Hello Marc,
Sorry for not replying sooner. I came back yesterday afternoon from a vacation trip to the mid west. Iowa, Kansas, Illinois, Indiana and Kentucky. It was great fun, and we visited with my wife's family in Kansas and Kentucky.
I'm going on a business trip today, but plan to work on the boat on Friday after work, and Saturday and Sunday. Many people have already launched their boat, but I had a three week cold starting at Easter, and have not started yet. My small boat has been in the water for a month, but the Aquasport is yet to be launched.
I think I would not like any less power than the 115 Merc. The boat currently is doing 42 miles/hour. I talked to "the guy" and he tells me the motor needs to be raised two holes, and I will put the 18" prop on instead of the 17". I will report as soon as I have tried. I'm afraid it might take another month, due to a very busy work schedule.
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on April 30, 2016, 11:02:35 AM
Finally got time to work on my boat today. Polishing the starboard side of the hull with rubbing. I will do it again tomorrow with finer rubbing.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on May 01, 2016, 12:51:12 PM
Looks like she is almost ready for the season. I forget if you put bottom paint on her or not. :?:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on May 01, 2016, 02:52:28 PM
Hello Rick,
Yes, I have bottom paint on her, since she is in the water for 3 months this year. It might be 4 months, depending on work and how good the weather is. I finished the hull today, with 3 polish steps and one layer of wax. This coming weekend, I will install the GPS, paint the bottom, and finish polishing the inner liner. I hope to launch it soon. We have a four day weekend coming up. With great weather forecast I have to add.
How's your boat coming along?
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on May 01, 2016, 05:23:17 PM
Yes, I have bottom paint on her, since she is in the water for 3 months this year. It might be 4 months, depending on work and how good the weather is. I finished the hull today, with 3 polish steps and one layer of wax. This coming weekend, I will install the GPS, paint the bottom, and finish polishing the inner liner. I hope to launch it soon. We have a four day weekend coming up. With great weather forecast I have to add.
How's your boat coming along?
//Lars
Sounds like a plan.
I'm still waiting on the wind to lay down. I spent the weekend camping on my Explorer - nice and relaxing.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on May 02, 2016, 09:58:59 AM
Hello again Rick,
I'm sorry to hear about your windy conditions. We are enjoying a fantastic week with warm temps (for here) 65-70 degrees F and clear blue sky. I will go get a haircut and then later go work on my boat again.
I have a small hope to launch my boat this coming long weekend. Time will tell.
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on May 05, 2016, 11:31:24 AM
Getting closer and closer to launch. I did some fiber glass work under one of the hatches in the bow today. It was a left over job from last year... I also completed the port side of the inner liner and all the stainless steel got a polish.
I'm also posting a picture of our old boat shed. Built in the early 60's, it is a cool place to hang out. I know most of the people in the club.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on May 05, 2016, 11:58:16 AM
It's amazing that the shed is wood frame and still hanging in there with the snow you guys get
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on May 05, 2016, 01:23:43 PM
I know, the weather we have is cold enough in the winter to kill any bugs eating away at the timber frame. the house we live in is 290 years old. It is a log cabin, but has wood siding on it. Wood siding will last 50-100 years over here, depending on how you keep it up.
We did replace the corrugated steel about 5 or 6 years ago. It just feels right to keep my boat where my dad and my grandfather used to keep theirs.
//Lars
Posting a picture of our backyard, and our 290 year old house.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on May 09, 2016, 05:22:54 AM
Looks new :thumleft:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on May 10, 2016, 03:13:10 PM
Thanks Rick, it looks better in places... I will continue to work on her this weekend. I'm very excited about a Craigs list find! I got hold of a cooler seat with backrest! I'm going to go pick it up tomorrow. Pictures to come.
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on May 11, 2016, 02:19:52 PM
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on May 11, 2016, 03:35:49 PM
Nice! I see that you had the original seat, minus the back (but with the shin busting metal guides for the backrest supports :? ) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/712/IMG_20150809_111202-nopm-.jpg)
Did you ever try to add a back to the original seat?
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on May 11, 2016, 03:44:38 PM
Hello Rick, this gives me the time to restore the original seat. I only paid 100 bucks for this seat, and I can use it while I restore the original.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on May 14, 2016, 10:05:54 AM
Installed the seat today. Now enjoying a cold one... :singing:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on May 14, 2016, 11:16:33 AM
Looks comfy Lars :thumleft: So I am wondering - does the cooler have the usual thick cooler top and they added 2" of foam and then covered the whole thing with material?
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on May 14, 2016, 01:23:07 PM
Hello Rick,
Good question. I will take a picture of the cooler opened tomorrow. Today we don't need a cooler over here... You can cool your beer, leaving it outside...
The warm weather from earlier this week (80s) are now low 50's...
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on May 15, 2016, 11:51:42 AM
I finished polishing the inner liner and transom today. I forgot to look at the cooler.
It rained the entire day today... Grey and windy and rainy... I had to force myself to go down to the marina and do some work on the boat.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on May 16, 2016, 06:09:05 PM
A nice seal on it. If you squeeze the side of the seat how thick is the lid?
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on May 18, 2016, 12:23:35 AM
I will check tonight. I was on a business trip yesterday, and came home late. I hope to work on the boat tonight. //Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on May 21, 2016, 05:46:27 AM
Installed a new hatch in the bow this morning. Hopefully this one will be waterproof, or at least a lot better than the one I had last year. Will go down again this afternoon and wash the inside of the boat.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 06, 2016, 11:54:27 AM
Installed the GPS tonight. Will launch before Friday this week. Work and commitments around the house... have prevented me from finishing up. I had three evenings away last week (again).
The view of my "cockpit". (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/712/IMG_20160606_172558.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=14193&title=img-20160606-172558&cat=712)
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on June 06, 2016, 01:02:49 PM
:thumleft:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 06, 2016, 03:28:05 PM
Thanks Rick! I really want to launch. It's just that so much other stuff comes in the way...
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on June 06, 2016, 04:03:53 PM
Thanks Rick! I really want to launch. It's just that so much other stuff comes in the way...
//Lars
Tell me about it ;-) (I know the feeling)
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 08, 2016, 04:01:49 PM
Well, baby steps towards launch... My brother and nephew helped me move the Merc up two holes tonight. Together with the new Mercury Vengeance 18" pitch prop, I'm hoping to get another 4 knots out of the motor. All according to my mechanic and racer buddy.
Launch is now planned for Friday afternoon or Saturday morning. All depends on the weather.
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 11, 2016, 08:11:38 AM
Finally launched today. Tested the new prop, and had some vibrations unfortunately... Not fun, but I switched back to the 17" pitch alu prop and the problem went away. I will try to get the stainless steel prop balanced.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on June 11, 2016, 09:04:36 AM
Weather looks great in that shot - plus you got her launched and can enjoy her now for a while.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 11, 2016, 10:27:53 AM
Hello Rick,
The weather has been a bit on and off today. I did take her out for a spin. GPS worked fine. Will do more tomorrow.
I'm a bit bummed over the Stainless steel prop... I will take it to a prop shop to get it fixed.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 12, 2016, 03:06:15 AM
I have a question. I'm thinking of using the new prop center adapter from the alu prop on my stainless steel prop today. I used the center adapter that came with the stainless steel (used prop). I might try this today.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: fitz73222 on June 12, 2016, 04:58:43 AM
Hi Lars, Are you talking about the flo-torque center adapter? I'm assuming they are both the flo- torque II. Is it plastic or brass? There are different adapters for different props assuming the stainless prop is Mercury. Some use the flo- torque III or IV so make sure you use the correct adapter. This may be the cause of the vibration. Also make sure that you torque the prop nut to 55 foot pounds, if it's just snugged up it can vibrate.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 12, 2016, 07:16:51 AM
Thanks for the input!
I tried to use the torque adapter from the Alu prop (Merc) but the same vibration occurred. Now I'm back on the 17" prop, and will have to take this stainless Vengeance prop to a prop shop. No such thing in my home town, but I will bring it to Stockholm or Gothenburg.
We went for a small swing today. Posting some pictures.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: fitz73222 on June 12, 2016, 08:35:02 PM
Hi Lars, There is lots of discussion about prop rattle at low speed on Mercury's with certain props. My perception is that the gear ratio relative to pitch is the issue. In other words the prop tries to out run the gear ratio and over turns from interia into the gearset and causes a rattle condition. This is a common issue.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 13, 2016, 12:59:16 AM
You mean I would have this problem with a new prop as well?
I have read some forums now about the problem. Thanks for helping me understand it might not be a problem with the prop.
I will investigate if I have a III or IV hub.
Thanks,
Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 14, 2016, 02:23:54 AM
It turns out I have a flo torq II hub...
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: fitz73222 on June 14, 2016, 06:03:10 AM
Hi Lars, As you have discovered, this problem is not unique with stainless propellers on these engines. The aluminum propeller runs quiet at idle correct? It's also not unique to Mercurys either. My 60 Bigfoot Merc also does the same thing with stainless prop at idle. It has almost 800 hours on it so obviously the rattle hasn't hurt anything. What I had learn was it only had the rattle just in gear, so I got in the habit of bumping the throttle up to about 1000 rpm's in gear and the rattle goes away. I know this is annoying but you can get rid of it by changing driving habits when underway while driving at low speed.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 14, 2016, 09:42:57 AM
Thanks for the input! It feels good that it's not the prop that is the problem. I will try the stainless steel prop again tonight. I will make sure I torque the nut properly and test it again.
Thanks for your support! :salut2:
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 14, 2016, 11:56:05 AM
Thanks everyone that have given me input to how to solve this problem!
I did some work tonight. I have two Flow Torq II hubs. I used the other one on the stainless steel prop, and used a higher torque than I had previously done. Tested the boat tonight and it ran perfect! I'm super happy with it. I can maybe hear a little rattle on idle, but it is hardly noticeable. I'm super happy with how the boat felt, accelerated and performed tonight. We did a short test run, it was very windy tonight.
Thanks guys! :c017:
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: fitz73222 on June 14, 2016, 02:28:24 PM
Good to hear Lars, glad we could help.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 14, 2016, 10:32:47 PM
I'm still smiling ear to ear over how the boat felt with the new prop!
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 18, 2016, 02:43:01 PM
Waiting for better weather... Great weather all week when you are at work... come Saturday, we have had rain pretty much all day today... It's supposed to be better tomorrow. I'm hoping to take the boat out tomorrow. My boat, now with a stainless steel prop at our marina.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: fitz73222 on June 22, 2016, 05:39:34 PM
Hi Lars, What are your new numbers with this propeller? Inquiring minds want to know!
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 23, 2016, 04:42:28 AM
It was very windy and quite a lot of waves yesterday (again). I will test this weekend and post numbers.
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Post by: larsli68 on June 25, 2016, 08:39:15 AM
We did 36.5 knots today with 5800 rpm on the OptiMax Merc. A bit disappointing. I have the bottom of my boat painted.
I had been hoping for 38 knots. I almost feel that the motor is two high. I moved it up two holes this year. I might take it back down one hole and try again. I can't push the bow up without loosing grip of the prop.
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Post by: fitz73222 on June 25, 2016, 10:17:44 AM
Hi Lars, Where is the anti ventilation plate relative to the bottom? My experience with vengeance propellers is they can take a little bit of trim but don't give a high degree of bow lift before slipping but that totally depends on the boat design. Our boats are not speed demons. The design has no lift strakes except for the bow entry. So we're basically just running straight V bottoms with nothing to really break up the adhesion of the water unless you're running in a chop. You may be loosing a little speed because of the bottom paint but it's the trade off to be able to keep the boat in the water. 42 statute miles per hour is a respectable speed and honestly does it really matter? It's funny about our boats, whether it's a 17 or a 22-2 we all seem to cruise at 25-28 mph. You put a lot of hard work into that boat, put a brand new engine on it, it runs great, sit back, relax and enjoy the fruits of your labor!
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Post by: RickK on June 25, 2016, 06:46:42 PM
Lars I understand your frustration for speed but I agree with Farley about the design of the last 2/3 of our boat (reluctantly since I have the same frustration about breaking the 40 mph barrier). I have done a lot of change to my rebuild to get back to non-bottom paint, maybe in the quest for speed (of course). He is right about the cruise speed being 28ish. I always planned on 5-6 gals/hr burn at 30 mph. If I do better on the rebuild I' m happy.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 26, 2016, 04:21:32 AM
Thanks guys!
I'm very happy with how the boat feels at cruising speed. It accelerates a lot better with the stainless steel prop. I wish we had a real prop shop here, where I could try different set ups, but my town is too small for that. I'm still a little bit faster than my brother in his Boston whaler Montauk 17... :93: I will settle and be happy. It would be interesting to see what a wet sanded bottom would do to the top speed... But my boat sits in the water 3-4 months out of the year.
Thanks for your input and support! I am very happy with the boat/performance
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on July 04, 2016, 01:27:30 PM
My boat at the mooring. My brother's Whaler in the back.
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Post by: RickK on July 04, 2016, 03:07:06 PM
How far is the mooring from your home? I don't see any registration numbers on your boat - is it required in Sweden?
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Post by: larsli68 on July 04, 2016, 04:06:36 PM
Hello Rick! The mooring is about 20 minute drive from our house. No need for registration numbers on boats in Sweden. We did back in the 90's, but it was removed about 15 years ago.
I'm starting my vacation on Wednesday afternoon. 4 weeks off for summer break. I'm hoping to put a lot of hours on the boat.
//Lars
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Post by: RickK on July 04, 2016, 04:24:01 PM
Nice - what is the standard amount of vacation days in Sweden?
So they lost all the tax revenue from boats?
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Post by: larsli68 on July 04, 2016, 05:08:44 PM
I have no overtime and an additional week of vacation. I have 6 weeks of vacation, but work an average of 50-60 hour weeks during the Sep-May period. Gives us a chance to recover during summer. With my current position, I will still have to check my e-mails, answer phone calls, but for the most part I will be able to relax.
Yes, they started the registration to be able to tax boats, but there are so many boats/ ca pita in Sweden, and an uproar, they removed the registration.
//Lars
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Post by: RickK on July 04, 2016, 06:31:05 PM
I have no overtime and an additional week of vacation. I have 6 weeks of vacation, but work an average of 50-60 hour weeks during the Sep-May period. Gives us a chance to recover during summer. With my current position, I will still have to check my e-mails, answer phone calls, but for the most part I will be able to relax.
Yes, they started the registration to be able to tax boats, but there are so many boats/ ca pita in Sweden, and an uproar, they removed the registration.
//Lars
Here the starting vacation is usually 2 weeks - 4 weeks after like 15 years. 6 weeks - we wish. Seems to be the European standard, no?
So what does the Brexit stir up in your area?
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Post by: larsli68 on July 05, 2016, 01:34:55 AM
I know that it sounds like a lot, but it is not every year I can take the full 6 weeks either. Also, if you look at the hours/year that I work, I think any US company would be happy with that.
Brexit is stirring things up here in Europe... I don't know what will happen. I don't think anyone does at this point.
Tomorrow I will be camera boat when the tune up race for the Swedish championships in sailing starts at our yacht clubs island. I can post a couple of pictures later this week.
//Lars
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Post by: larsli68 on July 06, 2016, 12:02:57 PM
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on July 09, 2016, 02:46:38 AM
I have been out taking pictures of the races for my yacht club. I took this video with my phone on Thursday.
https://youtu.be/gFjjXFTnuAw
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on July 09, 2016, 07:08:06 PM
Looks like, based on the whitecaps, that the wind was up around 20 mph, Great for sailing but not great for a 170 if the direction of travel is not right. Nice Pics Lars. Maybe start a new album to store these and start a new thread of "The beauty of Sweden"? I love seeing the pics
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Post by: larsli68 on July 10, 2016, 02:55:09 AM
Hello Rick, I can start a new thread and keep this a build thread.
Sorry for that.
//Lars
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Post by: larsli68 on July 30, 2016, 02:59:19 AM
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: MichaelO on September 08, 2016, 08:32:43 AM
Lars,
Look for a hull ID number stamped into the transom. The year should be the last two digits. I think that is true for both USA and European delivery boats.
Regards,
Michael O'
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: Capt. Bob on September 08, 2016, 10:12:55 AM
1986 to 89 paint and striping.
HIN (as stated above) will nail it down.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on September 08, 2016, 02:34:58 PM
Thanks guys!
If it had been a 19.6 I would have gone and looked at it. I like the looks of the older inner liner better. I love my 170. I hope to gain some more speed with a new Spitfire 13"x17" prop for next year. The used Vengeance prop I bought was a bummer... Not right. It never gave me the top speed or bow lift I was after.
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on September 08, 2016, 09:43:22 PM
If it had been a 19.6 I would have gone and looked at it. I like the looks of the older inner liner better. //Lars
I think you'll find that they are the same LOA. Just sunset an older model and create a "new" model by re-badging it.
Hello Rick, has the inner liner changed? I'm happy with my 170. If I'm up in Stockholm for work and get a chance to go look at it, I might do that. It feels a bit under powered...
Having a 115hp on my 170.
//Lars
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Post by: larsli68 on September 10, 2016, 05:52:36 AM
Even if we have brackish water here in the Baltic, the season takes it's toll if the stainless is not acid proof... I removed these cleats, since they have started to rust. I'm also removing the teak trim to re varnish them before next season. This time I will varnish also the under side... To prevent moisture to miss color the teak.
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Post by: fitz73222 on September 10, 2016, 05:12:05 PM
Hi Lars, Too bad about those cleats but there is a way to renew them and make them a lot more corrosion resistant if you want. I don't know if this can be done in Sweden environmently but you can take them to a plating shop and have them passivated or (passivation) It is a common practice here in the states for enhancing corrosion resistance in stainless steel. Assuming they are 316 or 304 stainless, this is an acid cleaning the removes the surface "free iron" from the stainless and then forms transparent oxidation layer. Many thousands of the stainless parts we produce are subjected to this process after production. This allows them to pass the 120 hour GM salt spray test which is the standard in our industry. Much of today's marine hardware comes from China and is substandard for corrosion resistance without this additional step. You can also have them do your mounting screws, washers and nuts and they will last for many many years without rusting.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on September 11, 2016, 01:56:57 AM
Hi Lars, Too bad about those cleats but there is a way to renew them and make them a lot more corrosion resistant if you want. I don't know if this can be done in Sweden environmently but you can take them to a plating shop and have them passivated or (passivation) It is a common practice here in the states for enhancing corrosion resistance in stainless steel. Assuming they are 316 or 304 stainless, this is an acid cleaning the removes the surface "free iron" from the stainless and then forms transparent oxidation layer. Many thousands of the stainless parts we produce are subjected to this process after production. This allows them to pass the 120 hour GM salt spray test which is the standard in our industry. Much of today's marine hardware comes from China and is substandard for corrosion resistance without this additional step. You can also have them do your mounting screws, washers and nuts and they will last for many many years without rusting.
Thanks Fitz73222!
I will check with a plating company that I used to use for work if they can do this type of surface treatment. Cool, thanks! I have more stuff that is rusting, I could get more stuff done.
I took a heat gun and scraped the varnish off from the deck trim yesterday afternoon. I will do a bit more sanding and then varnish them today.
Once again thanks!
//Lars
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Post by: larsli68 on September 11, 2016, 03:07:39 AM
A guy I know from sailing has a stainless steel shop here in town. According to his website, he has the passivation surface treatment in house!
I will check with him tomorrow.
//Lars
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Post by: larsli68 on September 11, 2016, 05:32:23 AM
Well, It's a gorgeous day here in Sweden. I finished sanding the wood trim, and got the first thinned down layer of varnish applied. I also heard from my buddy who runs a stainless steel shop with his dad, that I can come by tomorrow and get my rusting stainless steel parts treated. Really cool.
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Post by: RickK on September 11, 2016, 07:11:51 AM
The teak is looking good Lars. About the liner, I have no clue about the 196 other than from the catalogs we have in the gallery. That's good info about getting the stainless treated.
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Post by: larsli68 on September 11, 2016, 07:52:09 AM
Thanks Rick! I'm quite excited I can get it done here in town by someone I know. Thanks to this great forum, and all the knowledge shared!
I have been cleaning the shed this afternoon... Feels good to get a lot of stuff hauled off to the dump, allowing for indoor varnishing when fall will be here.
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: fitz73222 on September 14, 2016, 06:40:37 PM
Hi Lars, How did you make out with the passivation for your stainless hardware from the local plater?
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on September 14, 2016, 10:11:30 PM
Hello Fitz73222,
I have not had a chance to go yet. A very over busy work schedule... including 950 miles of driving in three days, have prevented me from going. I did discover that the top part of the hardware had not rusted at all. It was all on the surface that sits against the hull. That surface was course. I'm wondering if all I have to do is hand polish that surface to a shine, and my problem will be gone? I do have to other pieces of hardware, that I believe are 304 steel, that I need to bring to get treated.
I will keep you guys posted. It's 4:11AM and I'm about to head out driving...
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on October 08, 2016, 06:15:49 AM
My Aquasport 170 Carolina Girl will get a new home. I bought this Boat shed today. I'm very excited... :)
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Post by: RickK on October 08, 2016, 07:25:49 AM
Nice, Lars!! Do you get the property too or have to move the shed? How did the chrome treatment go?
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Post by: larsli68 on October 08, 2016, 07:36:21 AM
Hello Rick,
The shed is stationary, and I get the property it is on too. I have not got around to get the parts treated yet. I have been travelling a lot for work the past three weeks.
I noticed that the cleat is 90% high polish, but underneath the "feet" it is rough. I'm wondering if I polish the base, the cleat will not rust. I might still go get it treated before I put it back on the boat.
Did you suffer a lot from the Hurricane? It is raining in NC now. Will talk to one of my buddies later today.
//Lars
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Post by: RickK on October 08, 2016, 03:16:11 PM
Ok, so it is a real boat shed - nice. On the west coast of FL we didn't get much at all, a little rain and some stiff gusts of wind once in a while, the east coast, that is a different story. I heard back from one member in Palm Bay and he said they didn't lose power and barely got wet. Haven't heard back from others yet though.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on October 09, 2016, 02:53:33 AM
My buddy in NC has posted several videos of flooded creeks/ roads. The hurricane dumped a lot of water. It is raining here today... Supposed to be grey all day. I plan to sand and varnish the teak trim again today. I can't wait to move my boat to my very own boat shed. Be able to keep tools and machines there too, will be nice.
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Post by: RickK on October 09, 2016, 06:23:50 AM
The news said that NC has had over a foot of rain so far. The shed looks to be very deep. :thumleft:
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Post by: larsli68 on October 09, 2016, 07:52:28 AM
Yes, they got drenched. I have been watching WRAL news this morning over the web.
The shed is 36x13 feet with a ceiling height of 20 feet. Plenty of room. I plan a work bench and eventually one more boat, probably a sailboat. It's not heated, but there is a warm shed you can rent in the community. If you want to do some work during the winter that requires heat. I can't wait to get access to it. The 19th of October if everything goes as planned.
Glad to hear you guys didn't get hit by the hurricane. I bet the beach areas will need repairs. I'm working on my teak trim today. One more coat of varnish will be applied soon.
//Lars
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Post by: larsli68 on October 10, 2016, 04:59:59 AM
Work continues on the teak trim. This is varnish layer 4. I will also apply two layers on the bottom surface, to make it waterproof. New teak flagpole is also being varnished.
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Post by: larsli68 on October 15, 2016, 11:29:25 AM
Varnish coat 5 applied today. I'm happy with the finish now, and will let this be it. The underside will get two coats of varnish to make it waterproof. I hope everyone is having a nice Saturday. I'm excited to have my boat in my own boat shed. Feels a bit safer than where I used to keep it. The ability to build a work bench, loft and keep tools there will be a very nice bonus.
Some specs of dust in the varnish, but it looks OK I think. Good enough for me... ;)
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Post by: RickK on October 15, 2016, 03:19:32 PM
The brightwork looks fantastic Lars - nice job. The shed looks like it will give you the space you need to do many things.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on October 15, 2016, 03:30:41 PM
Thanks Rick! I'm excited to have this place. I'm planning to build a "Shop" in the shed. That way I can keep it warm in the winter time.
How's your project coming along?
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on October 16, 2016, 06:41:30 AM
I have been distracted lately by work and have worked quite a few Saturdays so we can get this new release of software out. I am going to replace the piano hinges today and see what else I can get done.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on October 16, 2016, 10:26:50 AM
Hello Rick,
I know that feeling. Work has taken a lot out of me too lately. I have a brutal week coming up. A lot of travelling and a two day trade show.
I'm very excited about my new boat shed. Next weekend will be our last one including a boat for a while. My brother and I will go to the cottage and burn the pile of trees and brush that has been added up during the summer. A fair amount of beer is also included in the yearly "burn"... ;) I found a 6 meter motor boat today on Craigslist here in Sweden. It is a boat from the 60's with American design, but built in Sweden. It is a project, and I'm thinking of getting it... I have not got wife approval yet... Time will tell...
This is a Swedish website, but it has a pretty cool picture of the boat. The engine would be a marine converted Volvo. http://www.livetombord.se/artiklar/artiklar/20151202/fisksatra-firally-slar-det-mesta
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on October 16, 2016, 02:45:11 PM
Looks like that boat will keep you out of the elements.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on October 17, 2016, 12:57:05 AM
Yes, No wife approval yet...
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Post by: larsli68 on October 30, 2016, 12:29:18 PM
A buddy and I worked pretty hard today. Got the frame and stairs to the loft built today.
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Post by: RickK on October 31, 2016, 04:58:26 AM
Looks nice Lars! That will definitely give you a lot more room, even though the stairs eat up a lot of room.
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Post by: larsli68 on October 31, 2016, 10:56:44 AM
They do, but they can be removed pretty easy. 4 screws hold them to the deck and side wall.
It will make to top floor more usable. I hope to work on it later this week. Floor boards and improved electrical installation. Hand rail and a work bench is also on the list.
Thanks!
//Lars
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Post by: larsli68 on November 06, 2016, 04:24:12 PM
The company where I work is closing the plant here in town. I managed to buy two work benches very cheap. They threw in a wise too. I'M very sad to see the factory close, but the work benches will be a memory of it for me.
Good news is that it is now OK to build a heated shop in the shed.That means I can continue on my loft and have a nice heated shop underneath. I'm quite excited about that.
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Post by: Brendanpd28 on November 08, 2016, 06:40:25 PM
Laars that teak looks incredible!! Very jealous of the heated shop as well.
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Post by: larsli68 on November 09, 2016, 01:16:29 PM
Hello Brendan,
No heated shop yet. I hope to build it this spring, and have one next winter. It is really cold here now, early...
To have a place where I can do fiberglass work, or varnishing will be great.
//Lars
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Post by: larsli68 on July 09, 2017, 09:22:52 AM
I finally got my boat in the water today. June was roofing month... With the roof finished, a two week spell of bad weather, strong winds made me wait, but today she is finally in the water. New varnish on all wood trim, and a new teak flagpole for this year. The cover is not big enough, but was the only thing I could find over here in Sweden. Will buy a new larger one when we visit the US in November. The hull is polished with a new miracle (read expensive) three in one product. Will let you know what it's called and if it worked.
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Post by: RickK on July 09, 2017, 12:18:59 PM
Looking good Lars - welcome back to warm ;-)
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Post by: larsli68 on July 09, 2017, 03:49:12 PM
Thanks Rick!
It's been a pretty nice spring, but I had the roofing project in June, and didn't want to launch my boat before that. I have a smaller piece of crap boat that I launched in April. I have been using it until today. Feels good to have the Aquasport in the water. Will go for a trip tomorrow. I'm still not happy with the prop. The Vengeance prop I bought used last year was not right. Didn't get the bow lift I wanted. Will try a Spitfire prop, but might wait until I go to the States in November. Props are half price in the States compared to here...
Your boat is looking great too. Have you been out on the water much?
//Lars
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Post by: RickK on July 10, 2017, 05:24:40 AM
No, I haven't been out much - I side tracked myself with a different project, an old RV. I am learning to share time among the projects, just not real good at it yet ;-)
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Post by: larsli68 on July 10, 2017, 08:40:44 AM
I know how that goes... ;) It's always fun with projects. I'm building model sailboats (RC). Right now I'm building the Americas Cup winner from 1974 and 1977 US 26 Courageous.
I planned to tidy up my electrical system on my boat this spring, and paint the floor, but bad weather, hectic work schedule and the roof project took all I had of energy.
I just got back from taking the boat to the summer mooring.
My nephew came with me. If the weather is nice we will take friends out tonight. The Merc runs fine. I still would love to test a Spitfire prop 18" pitch. I'm not getting the revs I should with the 19" pitch prop.
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Post by: larsli68 on July 19, 2017, 09:59:00 AM
Took the boat out today. I'm only getting 36 knots with the 19" prop I'm using. Not getting the rpm's either.
Will try a 18" Spitfire prop. Anyone got any other ideas? I'm getting a little better bow lift with this black max prop than the Vengeance I ran last summer. The Vengeance was a 18" pitch.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on September 10, 2017, 01:17:57 PM
My thoughts are with you guys in Florida. Stay safe and I hope that you get through this terrible Hurricane without getting hurt.
I took my Aquasport out today. The new 4 blade 12.5" x 19" Spitfire prop has really transformed my boat. With the OptiMax 115hp it works fantastic. I got 2 more knots in top speed, but the best part is the cruising speed and reduced fuel consumption. I know I must sound like a commercial, but it is an amazing prop!
My thoughts are with you guys in Florida. Stay safe and I hope that you get through this terrible Hurricane without getting hurt.
I took my Aquasport out today. The new 4 blade 12.5" x 19" Spitfire prop has really transformed my boat. With the OptiMax 115hp it works fantastic. I got 2 more knots in top speed, but the best part is the cruising speed and reduced fuel consumption. I know I must sound like a commercial, but it is an amazing prop!
38 knots on a boat that size is fast! I imagine that is only feasible on really calm days. I have a 175 and rarely go above 20 knots because it is just uncomfortable with the waves. But you are on a freshwater it seems where I'm on a large saltwater bay.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on September 11, 2017, 09:11:20 PM
Glad you got it worked out Lars and thanks for checking in on us here in FL. I can't speak for anyone outside of my neighborhood but it was intense and luckily it was moving at 14-18 mph, unlike Harvey which just sat there dumping water on a saturated area - Houston and surrounding areas, so we were not slammed with all the extra rain. Our areas got heavy rain but we are used to what we got, so it wasn't causing anything out of norm.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on September 11, 2017, 11:28:23 PM
Hello Rick! I'm very happy to hear that. My mom's aunt lives in Naples Florida. She is 81 years old, but she evacuated. I'm glad that she did.
Fall is early here this year. I plan to take my boat out of the water this coming weekend. Had a nice trip on Sunday. Will travel for four days, starting today. When back Friday, I hope for a nice day on Saturday, then boat out of the water on Sunday.
//Lars
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Post by: larsli68 on September 16, 2017, 02:55:14 PM
One of the last trips this season. I travel a lot during the weeks, and will take the boat to my mechanic to get the Merc serviced on Monday morning.
https://youtu.be/IlNqCRv8LxQ
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on September 17, 2017, 05:31:51 AM
My thoughts are with you guys in Florida. Stay safe and I hope that you get through this terrible Hurricane without getting hurt.
I took my Aquasport out today. The new 4 blade 12.5" x 19" Spitfire prop has really transformed my boat. With the OptiMax 115hp it works fantastic. I got 2 more knots in top speed, but the best part is the cruising speed and reduced fuel consumption. I know I must sound like a commercial, but it is an amazing prop!
38 knots on a boat that size is fast! I imagine that is only feasible on really calm days. I have a 175 and rarely go above 20 knots because it is just uncomfortable with the waves. But you are on a freshwater it seems where I'm on a large saltwater bay.
Hello Ctsalt12,
Sorry for not seeing your reply earlier. The Baltic is brackish water. 0.5% salt. The boat works amazingly good with this new prop. Out of the hole a lot quicker and seems to use less gas. I can cruise in 29 knots if the waves permit. I took it out yesterday, and the Baltic was flat. I had a blast. I will take my boat out of the water tonight. I have two boats, and the other boat I leave in the water until November. I plan to do some face lifts on my Aquasport that I never had time to do this past spring.
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on May 05, 2018, 12:52:29 PM
Getting ready to launch. My 4th summer with my Aquasport 170. No major upgrades this year. Garmin plotter added last year. Sea charts upgraded this year. Will launch tomorrow. Can't wait. It's been a long winter in Sweden... (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/MVIMG_20180505_125108.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=16996&title=mvimg-20180505-125108&cat=500) //Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on May 05, 2018, 02:44:09 PM
Hi Lars, good to see you back!! So what is on the to do list - more bottom paint? Not sure if you've been using it or not since the water is more brackish, I think you said?
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on May 05, 2018, 03:15:07 PM
Hello Rick,
I never left, but I have not posted anything, since we have had the worst winter in many years... It's finally warm. I painted new white bottom paint after the picture was taken, and I have 30 minutes worth of polishing the inner liner left for tomorrow. I will also replace the water separation fuel filter tomorrow. I will also install a GPS tracking system (helps me get a cheaper insurance). Do you guys use that in the US?
If anyone moves my boat, I will get a text message. I kind of like that idea. I will install that tomorrow morning, before launching her.
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on May 06, 2018, 09:23:21 AM
I'm sure some of the high dollar boats have the tracking devices.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on May 06, 2018, 01:40:26 PM
Since my boat is at the mooring, all alone, my insurance company gives me a discount for installing the GPS tracking device. The discount pays for the tracker in less than one year. It's a no brainer.
These pictures are from today. (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/712/MVIMG_20180506_115607.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=17000&title=mvimg-20180506-115607&cat=712)
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on September 11, 2018, 02:16:53 PM
My boat is in the shed for the season. My wife is sick, and therefor an early end to boating season this year. Hit a rock with my Merc alloy Spitfire prop, and picked up this bad boy on the fall sale on line. Can't wait to test it next year.
Upgrades planned is new paint on floor and hatches in the bow. And take care of some cosmetic stuff on the inner liner. New color matched gelcoat has been ordered.
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Post by: RickK on September 11, 2018, 02:34:49 PM
Hi Lars - man that bright work looks great! So the new prop is Stainless?
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Post by: larsli68 on September 11, 2018, 03:17:59 PM
Hello Rick,
Yes, It's basically the same prop that I ran this past summer, but in Stainless steel instead. I caught it on sale, and spent the bucks on it. It was 40% off, a great deal.
We had a fantastic summer over here. It got warm in April, and stayed warm until a couple of days ago. Right now it's low 60's and raining... Have you used your boat a lot this summer?
Great to hear from you!
//Lars
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Post by: RickK on September 11, 2018, 07:22:57 PM
I have not been using my boat much - been distracted with my RV. I've got some time starting next week (I hope) that I can start focusing on the boat and put some time on her.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on September 12, 2018, 12:00:38 AM
I have not been using my boat much - been distracted with my RV. I've got some time starting next week (I hope) that I can start focusing on the boat and put some time on her.
Your season is a bit different compared to ours. Here you better get it while the getting is good... :)
I'm getting the Merc serviced on the 9th of October. I plan to replace the winch on my trailer this weekend. Scupper valves will also be replaced. I'm thinking of putting a plug in the center one, to prevent back flow of water. Because of the motor, I can not have a scupper valve on the center one. I might try next year with a rubber plug in it.
Nasty hurricane heading towards where we used to live in NC.
Are you restoring the RV? Forum for it?
//Lars
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Post by: larsli68 on September 17, 2018, 04:01:27 PM
Finally replaced the winch on my trailer. Had to drill a couple of new holes for the install. It's a one ton winch. Should do the job.
No, it's not that fancy. Just bigger than my old winch, and a bit easier to operate. It's basically just in or out with the handle. Feels robust. 1000kg (1ton).
My old winch was rusty and very hard to operate.
//Lars
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Post by: larsli68 on October 10, 2018, 01:59:48 PM
My thoughts are with you guys in Florida. Especially in the Panhandle.
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on May 31, 2019, 02:03:58 PM
Finally launched my boat today. The Spitfire prop 12.7 x 19P RH is a masterpiece! Together with the Optimax 115hp, I'm super happy with the performance! (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/712/IMG_20190531_184641.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=18676&title=img-20190531-184641&cat=712) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/712/IMG_20190522_213628.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=18675&title=img-20190522-213628&cat=712)
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on May 31, 2019, 07:59:31 PM
Hi Lars, glad you popped in. So what kind of performance are you seeing?
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Post by: larsli68 on June 01, 2019, 02:31:18 AM
Hello Rick!
I finally broke the 40 knots barrier! 40.5 knots yesterday, with possibly a little bit more with less fuel in the boat. This was with a full tank of fuel. 40.5 knots is 46.6 mph. I'm also very happy with how the boat feels now, and gets up out of the hole. For anyone thinking of re-powering with an OptiMax, this info is golden. I know I would have loved knowing before I tried 5 props... ;)
Have you used your boat much lately?
All the best,
I'm always checking in on you guys in the forum.
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 28, 2019, 03:53:06 PM
Spitfire stainless steel prop has made wonders to my boat! 19" pitch. 41 knots, and super fast out of the hole. I love my Aquasport even more now. They will bury me in this boat... :25:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on June 28, 2019, 04:58:24 PM
She sure looks purdy. I'm in Tennessee in my RV right now, heading home, further south each day.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 28, 2019, 05:29:10 PM
It's going to be 86 degrees here tomorrow, and my wife is working early shift at the hotel tomorrow morning. I will be out on the Baltic all day tomorrow. I hope she will join me in the afternoon Drive safe bud!
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: BradC on July 07, 2019, 12:43:41 PM
Hey Lars,
Thanks for an incredibly informative thread. Your attention to detail and doing it properly ethic has made your journey a genuine inspiration. I recently bought a rough but functional '83 175 and this thread has answered pretty much all my unasked questions.
Cheers Brad
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Post by: larsli68 on July 08, 2019, 02:15:22 PM
Thanks Brad,
Very nice words! I'm glad if what I did can help you. I love my boat, and continue to improve it. The 4 blade Spitfire stainless steel prop made a world of difference.
Thanks again,
Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on July 17, 2019, 01:57:42 PM
I made a video of the restoration of my 1981 Aquasport 170. You find it here. https://youtu.be/RMv7GdR-wOA
//Lars
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Post by: Mwar410 on July 18, 2019, 07:37:10 PM
Very nice
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Post by: RickK on July 19, 2019, 06:08:05 PM
Nice video Lars !
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Post by: larsli68 on July 20, 2019, 04:32:51 PM
Thanks guys, I hope it can inspire someone. I hope everyone is having a nice summer.
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: umecheme on August 26, 2019, 02:24:55 PM
Lars,
How long did the wood removal from the transom take? How satisfied are you with the Seacast...?
Thanks in advance.
-Mike
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on August 31, 2019, 12:08:09 PM
Hello Mike,
It took me a couple of weeks, but mainly because I had some problems with carpal-tunnel at the time. You can do it faster. I would buy or rent a chainsaw with a longer sword. The chainsaw removes the wood but spares the fiberglass. I made a couple of special tools. You can find pictures of them in this thread.The more rotten your wood is, the easier to remove. I had parts of the transom that was in good condition, and it too a lot more work to remove it. You have to remove all the wood. Seacast is awesome. I'm on my 5th season now, and it's strong and looks like the day I launched the boat. I'm very happy with it. The only thing is, don't leave any wood in there... I think it took my 2-3 days after I thought I had it all removed, until it was 100% removed...
You can do it!
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: Ulysses485 on August 31, 2019, 11:31:33 PM
Great video and a beautiful build! Well done!
Ulysses
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on September 02, 2019, 03:15:25 PM
Thanks!
I love my boat. Don't think I will ever sell it. I plan a refresh for next year or the year after. I'm restoring a Soling sailboat at the moment.
Thanks,
Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on May 17, 2020, 03:48:15 PM
2020 refresh of my 1981 Aquasport 170. When I restored my boat, I elevated the floor with 3/4 of an inch, my mistake was that I never tied the new floor into the transom with fiberglass. I got a hairline crack after the first season... This spring, I used my Makita finger belt sander, and sanded the hairline crack (until I didn't see a crack) and added 4 layers of stm fiber glass. I sanded, added a little bit of polyester filler, before I painted new topcoat.
In the bow, I repairing some hairline cracks, and will refresh with new paint. Floor will also be re-painted. I'm also painting top coat on the underside of the covers.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on May 17, 2020, 04:46:44 PM
Good to see you back Lars. The boat is looking good. How is the Social experiment going there?
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: BradC on May 17, 2020, 11:23:27 PM
Hey Lars ... plse review the YT link to your resto vid, says its unavailable. Tx Brad
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on May 18, 2020, 01:43:36 AM
The social experiment is doing fine. I think all countries that now opens up after lock down, will pretty much do what we have done all along. I had used audio in the first video, that YouTube claimed I didn't have the rights to use, so I removed the video. Did a slight re-mix of it and posted it again.
Stay safe
Lars
https://youtu.be/1TL8xRGmrz4
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on May 18, 2020, 01:45:27 AM
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Post by: Capt. Bob on May 30, 2020, 07:15:00 AM
:great02:
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on May 30, 2020, 01:34:40 PM
What paint are you using? Sure looks shiny ;-)
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Post by: Tampa Bay Mike on May 30, 2020, 08:57:32 PM
Nice video. Thanks for posting it.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: thill on June 02, 2020, 12:41:14 AM
Lars, I read your entire post and enjoyed your journey very much. Thanks for sharing. Yours is the first 170 I've seen with a heavy motor that didn't want to take water through the scuppers. The total foam removal must play a part. Good Job!
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 02, 2020, 04:29:52 PM
Thanks for your kind words! I painted with top coat. Gelcoat with wax solution. I did make a mistake on the anti slip surface... Not enough hardener... Scrape it off and try again. Not too big of a deal, it was very warm on the day I did the anti skid surface, and I was afraid it was going to harden too quick...
Thanks guys,
Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 02, 2020, 04:32:40 PM
I did install my floor on top of the old floor, meaning, I moved it up about 3/4 of an inch.
With West Marine scupper valves, my boat is dry even when I walk towards the back... I'm not skinny...
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 19, 2020, 11:21:05 AM
Will work on the floor tomorrow. I used topcoat with sand blasting sand, to create a surface with some grip.
Best looking Aquasport in Sweden. How did it originally end up there? Just picked one up 2600 miles away but yours beat that out. Great job
I have no idea how my boat ended up in Sweden. I bought it as a project boat north of Gothenburg in Sweden. I loved the shape of it, and was very happy to find this great community to help me restore it.
Thanks,
Lars
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Post by: larsli68 on June 23, 2020, 05:29:36 PM
It's getting there. I hope to launch this weekend. I'm working on a pretty big house improvement project of our 290 year old house. Been digging and replacing drain pipes and water mains for the last 3 days. Will backfill tomorrow... I can't wait...
Thanks,
Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 23, 2020, 05:31:46 PM
Looking good Lars. :great02: What more can one say?
Still...... Maybe next year you can take the rub rail back off and re-polish the screws. :mrgreen:
Good luck. :thumright:
Thanks Captain Bob!
It's been bugging me that I have had 3 grey colors on the boat. I managed to get hold of a grey topcoat, that matches what I have on the insides of my boat. It sure looks a lot nicer now.
Thanks,
Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on November 08, 2020, 10:34:03 AM
Ordered these for my boat. Will install in the spring. (https://classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/712/Aquasport_179.JPG) (https://classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=21216&title=aquasport-179&cat=712)
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on November 08, 2020, 01:26:03 PM
:thumleft: Where'd you get them?
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Post by: larsli68 on November 09, 2020, 03:36:07 PM
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Post by: RickK on April 18, 2021, 07:27:10 AM
Hi Lars, looking good as usual. I don't remember that blueish water line.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on April 18, 2021, 07:43:16 AM
Hello Rick,
It's the cupper in the antifouling paint, that turns that bluish color. I have not painted the bottom yet. Removed the old stickers today, finished the polishing, will wax this week (in the boat shed). Hope to install the new 3D stickers later this week. I hope all is good with you. No vaccine for us yet. But hopefully only weeks away now.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on April 18, 2021, 11:34:07 AM
Ahhh, the copper. Makes perfect sense.
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on April 18, 2021, 01:01:10 PM
I might try to remove some antifouling paint, and make the antifouling paint line more like the waterline... I know it's a lot of work, but I might have a go at it.
//Lars
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: larsli68 on June 04, 2021, 04:46:39 PM
My season is finally on. I will add the new Aquasport 170 badges will be installed later this summer or in the fall. I ran out of time (https://classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/PXL_20210604_134719094.jpg) (https://classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=21877&title=pxl-20210604-134719094&cat=500)
Title: Re: 1981 Aquasport 170 rebuild in Sweden
Post by: RickK on June 05, 2021, 08:52:13 AM
Looking good Lars :thumleft:
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Post by: Capt. Bob on June 08, 2021, 08:02:56 PM
:great02:
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Post by: larsli68 on June 11, 2021, 06:29:42 AM