'74 22-2

[JimCt]

G-man, thanks for the fuel vent info.  They certainly didn't skimp on the venting!  Will add sniff test to the list.

[JimCt]

Just got back.  Not a good match for me.  She's all there but really, really tired all around.  Deck has more than a few soft spots & transom is due now.  Didn't need to do any mallet thumping.





Pictures show a sawsall transom lowering job executed so the engine would sit low enough. Leaves about 4.5" freeboard.  Had twins once.  Bow punctures are in the same places on both sides.  Can't imagine how that was done.  No telling if the surrounding areas are delaminated.  Sixteen year old motor likely with high hours. Trailer's fair. Needs springs/shackles.

This would be a great project boat for someone to pick away at.  Can be had for ~$400 w/o motor.  But not my $400.

The search continues...

[DEFIANT]

Jim,

I used to tow my 222 with a six cylinder Ford Ranger. It worked hard, but was up to the task! The only time I had problems was at low tide trying to pull out of a slippery ramp.

[RickK]

That's why I didn't see any holes for the twins - they were the old screw down type like I had on mine originally.
Can't imagine what would have put a hole through the hull in the front on both sides - gunshot?  
$400 is definitely a fixer up price.
Who was the member that tallied all he'd spent restoring his 222 and it was 40k+    - bet it's nice though.

[JimCt]

Could be a gunshot hole I suppose... close range 12 Ga. #6 shot possibly.  $40k ought to fix that, straighten her stockings & comb her hair out some.

Got back & went out to visit the 170.  I'd be nuts to sell her.  I've looked at too many blown-out, abused, crunched and generally neglected 170's & 22-2's.  Is simple basic maintenance unknown to the greater boating public?  At least cover it for the winter or, failing that big effort, blow the leaves out so it'll drain.  Storing uncovered with the bow down is also popular. Guess it's neglect of what  they have which keeps 'em coming back for new boats.  Keeps the economy chugging.

[RickK]

I'm with you, some people respect nothing.  Don't know why.  Maybe they didn't buy the boat, so don't care what happens to it? I see some trashed boats when I'm on the water.  Bringing people on your boat can be disheartening too, I saw a thread on THT that was about the worse things people do while on other's boats, it was pretty funny.  Black soled shoes and Cheetos topped the list.
I went out yesterday and saw that my new "tarp support system" did a lousy job and allowed my cover to get ripped by the windsheild corner :x .  I spent a couple hours today, with some input from a buddy, and designed version 6 (?), installed it, ironed on patch number 2 on the tarp and covered her back up.  We'll see how long this one lasts.  As long as I make sure there are no corners exposed, it'll be fine and I think I have it this time  

[JimCt]

Did it warm up enough to get out on the water today?  You said it was down to 40 there.  Down there that is cold!

Good luck with the tarp.  If V. 6 fails maybe you can make up sort of a padded glove to pull over the frame to cushion the corners?  I have more or less the same problem with my winter cover.  Hasn't chaffed through yet but I know it's coming.

Almost forgot; got a small digital camera for my birthday.  Loads pictures directly into the back of the computer.  Small enough to drop in my pocket and takes fair pictures.  The picture above of my 170 in the snow was taken with it.  I shoot pictures on the 640 x 480 setting so that the complete picture will display on the computer screen.  I'm on dial-up so it's also faster shooting them over to Photobucket.  Resolution is 3.5 mp I think.

The worst thing I've seen is someone snuffing out a cigarette on a varnished mahogany rail on a beautifully restored wood sailboat at a boat show... Thats why at car shows you DO NOT TOUCH the cars.  The owner's right there with a tire iron in his hand ready to enforce the rule.

[Deck Daddy]

To keep the corners from ripping the tarp try using those noodle floats that they sell for a 1.00 at Wally world cut them down the middle where they are hollow and they slip over corners and rails. They work well for me in the past. Just some food for thought.

[RickK]

To keep the corners from ripping the tarp try using those noodle floats that they sell for a 1.00 at Wally world cut them down the middle where they are hollow and they slip over corners and rails. They work well for me in the past. Just some food for thought.

I've padded the windshield with all kinds of things over the years and it never seemed to help. I'm sure the trials will continue. What seems to do it is if you can get rid of the windshield, i.e. put pvc tubing over it so that no matter what happens the tarp never touches it and all stress is transferred over a lot of area.  Using PVC rounds out everything too - no sharp corners.
Here is what the tear looked like.  Even though I filed the edge of the PVC, I guess there was enough of a corner so that when the wind took the tarp up and then back down (it's like a vacuum and no matter what I do the wind still moves this tarp), the corner got it.http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/1215/sort/1/cat/500/page/1
I forgot to take an after picture.  I will the next time I take her out or when I'm working on her - whichever is sooner.

[RickK]

Did it warm up enough to get out on the water today?  You said it was down to 40 there.  Down there that is cold!  

I reworked the tarp support system instead but was sure wishing I was out there - it was a gorgeous afternoon.  If I hadn't repaired the tarp it would have gotten shredded. At $125 a pop, you tend to try to prolong their demise.

Almost forgot; got a small digital camera for my birthday.  Loads pictures directly into the back of the computer.  Small enough to drop in my pocket and takes fair pictures.  The picture above of my 170 in the snow was taken with it.  I shoot pictures on the 640 x 480 setting so that the complete picture will display on the computer screen.  I'm on dial-up so it's also faster shooting them over to Photobucket.  Resolution is 3.5 mp I think.

Seems to work well - Happy Birthday!!

The worst thing I've seen is someone snuffing out a cigarette on a varnished mahogany rail on a beautifully restored wood sailboat at a boat show... Thats why at car shows you DO NOT TOUCH the cars.  The owner's right there with a tire iron in his hand ready to enforce the rule.

They would have died right there.

[Miguel]

You guys up in the U.S don´t realize how lucky you are.  Everytime I look at boat trader, ebay, etc. and see the availability and price of good used boats in the U.S I want to go crazy.... That 400.00 dollar boat in Panama would make a great fixer upper.  You´d end up spending about 15K and the end result would be great.  Labor is cheap down here.
Finding a good used boat down here is hard.  Everybody wants top bucks for their boats and some are in very bad shape.   Comes with the territory.  There are just not so many boats around.  Go figure, with all that water around us.  That is changing, however, as there is a bunch of americans and europeans retiring in Panama.  They come with $ on their pockets and maybe will buy new boats for us Panamanians to buy used in the future.......

[JimCt]

Miguel,

Business Plan:  Get a 40' container, stuff it full of boats (like the 22-2 I went to see), ship it to Panama & sell the boats.  You know the turf down there...

Could we retire      

[John Jones]

That's what I was thinking.  I know someone that is getting rich buying US full size used pickups and shipping them to Europe.  Well, he is living like he is rich anyway.  

[Miguel]

Could we retire    

C´mon guys..... You know better.  There is no such thing as EASY money.
The used boat market is not large here.  Down here people with money buy new boats or travel to Miami to find a good used one (and bring it down by means of the 40 footer or as deck cargo). The rest don´t have money to spare on "mundane" hobbies....  
You´d probably end up selling a couple of boats and thats it..... I´m still looking for another way to get an early retirement.......

[DP]

G-Man is right about the vents. I have the same 22-2 and it came with two vent intakes up on the bow cap and the same vent on the port side aft. I took the bow ones off and replaced the old vent back aft. All in all the boat looks like it's in decent condition. Defently check the deck, I had to replace mine. Good luck.... DP