1973 22.2 redo ===== SOLD!!!!!

[shortpants]

73 222.







I am taking suggestions for power h/p.  I'm thinking 175 Suzuki or maybe even a 225 ETEC.  What's the rule of thumb, for every 25 hp you gain......2 mph?

[aqua719]

I would go with the 225 etec, I have a 200 evinrude with 225 carbs on it and it gets up on plane quick

[LilRichard]

What is the use of the boat?  Will it have a bracket?  I only ask because all older AS's are weight sensitive in the rear, and many will not self bail with a big honkin' motor on the back.

I would also ask Mike Answeeny, he just rebuilt one with a 175, and he's very happy.  I don't think that boat needs anything more than that...

BTW, where are you located?

[shortpants]

I plan on using marine ply for the transom and putting a porta-bracket on.  I will be starting tear down this weekend to see how the stringers look, hopefully.  Strong possibility that even if they don't look so bad that I may replace the two stringer system into maybe a four stringer system to keep some of the hull twist down if I put some decent power on it.  I will definately let the boat's personality dictate as this project progresses.  I was originally going to put a tower on it but will wait after I use it for a bit to even see if I like the way it rides before spending the money on it.  I know that not having a tower does play into the power issue again as the weight won't be as heavy.  I did see a Dorado hull/boat recently on the water powered with a 300hp Mercury.  Wow! I really don't think I will go any higher then a 250 and probably will go with a 225.  We'll see

Richard, I will be using it for a little of this and a little of that.  A lot of inshore fishing but wanting to make runs a little off-shore when inshore sucks.  I am thinking about keeping the same center console but narrowing it some and also making it taller.  I definately think the higher consoles look better and like Willer55'a that he got from a Pathfinder boat on his looks awesome!  Where did you eventually get your console from after abandoning your first console?

I am very excited about doing this and I wish I could say the same for my girlfriend who looks at me when I talk about it with a very strange expression.    :shaking:

[GarrettS]

Shortpants, Good Luck! I am in the same situation. Just decided to rebuild my 19-1. BTW my wife has no idea what I am about to start. She didn't complain when she came home to a large green Quonset hut  (Shelterlogic garage) in the driveway. Wait until the real destruction begins. Should be a lot of fun. Keep the posts coming.

[LilRichard]

Couple of thoughts: you do NOT need a 250 on that boat, a 225 would still be really big.  These boats are very weight sensitive, especially when brackets are added.  I think I stated it earlier, but Mike Answeeny has this exact hull with a 175 and he's running into the mid 40s with his boat.  

Second, if the stringers are good, leave them.  If you can repair them, even better.  If not, rebuild - but I would stick with a 2 stringer setup.  Boat is not wide enough to justify four stringers - it would be severe overkill.

[MarshMarlowe196]

 I am thinking about keeping the same center console but narrowing it some and also making it taller.  I definately think the higher consoles look better and like Willer55'a that he got from a Pathfinder boat on his looks awesome!  Where did you eventually get your console from after abandoning your first console?

I agree completely.  The more I look at the original consoles, the wider and stubbier they look to me.  I was forced to replace mine w/ one out of a 93' Polar after I "lost" the original cause that's what I had, but I'm really happy with it now.  The higher windshield and steering wheel is very nice, plus there's no gaping hole at the bottom near the floor, so all of your electronics and what-not stay a lot drier.  Since the 19-6 is really a short 22-2, here's kind of an idea of what it would look like:

[LilRichard]

Where did you eventually get your console from after abandoning your first console?

Sorry - forgot to answer: got it from Gause.

[Capt. Bob]

Coming in a little late SP but that's the classic "banana boat"
BA and I don't always agree but he's right on about the console.
It would look good in your craft.
The 175 should be all you need.

[shortpants]

I am leaning more towards a 225 hp Suzuki but again, will wait and see.  The four stringer system was put in a friends boats and his boat runs well.  He used nidacore for stringers and is holding up well.  

Again, as soon as I get the floor off this weekend will take a look and see what the stringers look like and make a decision then.  I am not in concrete with any of this and will be open to suggestions as the rebuild goes along.  So, keep the comments coming!  

Will post pics. if I get on it this weekend and show the stringers.

I forgot to mention that I am definately raising the floor about 2".

[shortpants]

Well, didn't get any decking pulled up.  Got all of the hardware removed when that little storm passed through yesterday.  Next weekend!  However, I did find lots of rot on the cap which is normal.  Was hoping that did not need to be recored.

[LilRichard]

I am leaning more towards a 225 hp Suzuki but again, will wait and see.  The four stringer system was put in a friends boats and his boat runs well.  He used nidacore for stringers and is holding up well.  

You can build four stringers if you'd prefer, sure it will hold up well - I'm just saying it's a lot more effort for no return.

Do you really think you need a 225?  How fast do you want to go?  The 225 weighs in at 580lbs, whereas a 175 is 475/485 - that's an extra 100 lbs out on a bracket... or like having one extra guy standing in the back all the time.  Plus I think a 175 will push that boat about 45 - so unless you're trying for 50+mph... then it's really overkill.

[MarshMarlowe196]

I have to agree with Little Richard-

That 225 is going to present many more cons than pros

45mph is PLENTY.  I'm slap happy going 40mph.  The fish aren't that fast!!!

[shortpants]

Got the deck off today.  The stringers were wet and even separating from the hull.  I plan on cutting them up and either putting new ones in or refoaming the old ones.  Not sure yet....

It was hot as hell out there today and thought I was going to pass out with the heat.  Took me 5 hours to cut the deck up and finally called it quits with only some foam left to pull out.  I plan on tearing down the transom next week.  Will rebuild that first then pull out the stringers one at a time.  Will take a few pics and throw them up this week.  

any opinions between poured transoms and marine ply?  I want to use ply but am open to switching to a poured transom.......

[LilRichard]

If the stringers are in reasonably good shape I would definitely try to re-attach them and put new foam in them.  Re-stringing a boat is no fun, and those stringers should be plenty strong.

Re: your transom, I would check out the pourables for sure - I have heard very good things about them.  However wood is great too - that's what I used.