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June 23, 2013, 07:38:38 PM
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Tx49

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Fiberglass choices
« on: June 23, 2013, 07:38:38 PM »
As I continue on my demo, i am also still building my materials list and budget. Right now this is the material I was thinking I would use for structural work-transom laminations, stringer laminations, tabbing wherever it is required, extension build-up and shell hull lining. I was looking at adding a layer of this from about 8" above the chine all the way across to above the other chine.  

http://compositeenvisions.com/raw-fabric-cloth-2/fiberglass-cloth-mat-roving-101/fiberglass-dbm-1708-knytex-biaxial-45-degree-fabric-676.html

For the nonstructural areas like hatches, deck layering and layering of cabin structures and such, I am not sure what I should be using. Any help there would be appreciated.
For exposed wood, I am thinking of 2 coats of thinned epoxy clear resin followed by 8-12 coats of marine varnish. Would this give me a decently salt-proof finish?
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June 24, 2013, 09:13:09 AM
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Re: Fiberglass choices
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2013, 09:13:09 AM »
Here is the same thing for less money. Looks like you can get the 50 inch wide stuff for less than the 38 on your link.

http://www.uscomposites.com/specialty.html

The wood finishing is a whole other subject. Are you meaning the teak? Myself I don't like varnish. When it finally goes away and looks like crap it is a nightmare to get off and recoat.
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June 24, 2013, 02:03:29 PM
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Tx49

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Re: Fiberglass choices
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2013, 02:03:29 PM »
Appreciate the heads up on a supplier. I hadn't even started thinking about where to buy, I was just using that page to show the kind I was thinking of. Will that 1708 work for the buildup in the hull extension I have planned or should i be using a different type, like woven, roving, csm, etc. Also, should I use something more like these for laying up the cabin, hatch covers and other non-structural areas?

http://compositeenvisions.com/raw-fabric-cloth-2/fiberglass-cloth-mat-roving-101/fiberglass-e-glass-18oz-38-width-plain-weave-464.html

http://compositeenvisions.com/raw-fabric-cloth-2/fiberglass-cloth-mat-roving-101/fiberglass-dbm-1208-knytex-biaxial-45-degree-fabric-680.html

http://compositeenvisions.com/raw-fabric-cloth-2/fiberglass-cloth-mat-roving-101/fiberglass-e-glass-10oz-50-width-plain-weave-471.html

For the wood, what kind of clear finish should be used if not varnish or polyurethane?
Johnny

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June 25, 2013, 08:37:46 PM
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« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2013, 08:37:46 PM »
1708 is pretty much the standard for structural work.     For the rest (cabin, hatches etc.) it really depends on what youre building it out of...

June 27, 2013, 07:28:55 PM
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« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2013, 07:28:55 PM »
I've had great luck with a product called Cetol for teak.

June 27, 2013, 09:55:03 PM
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« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2013, 09:55:03 PM »
Quote from: "Tx49"
For the wood, what kind of clear finish should be used if not varnish or polyurethane?

Johnny what kind of look are you going for?  Bright finish, oiled or natural?  Will the wood work be covered? Can the wood can be removed easily to be maintained and how much time do you want to spend on the maintenance?  The answers will dictate the finish options..
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June 28, 2013, 03:45:35 AM
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« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2013, 03:45:35 AM »
Dirtwheels-The sytucture will be primarily plywood. Other than joints and tabbing and such, It seems the glass is really more of a protectant service rather than a structural issue.
dbisquane- is that a coating like varnish or a treatment like oil

dburr- The majority of the wood will not be removable. Some of it will be exposed to the elements. Originally I was going to go with a resin coat and then multiple coats of clear, but i heard the resin will yellow badly. The wood will be heart cypress, teak, or mahogany.
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June 28, 2013, 11:57:49 AM
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« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2013, 11:57:49 AM »
Quote from: "Tx49"
Dirtwheels-The sytucture will be primarily plywood. Other than joints and tabbing and such, It seems the glass is really more of a protectant service rather than a structural issue.
dbisquane- is that a coating like varnish or a treatment like oil

dburr- The majority of the wood will not be removable. Some of it will be exposed to the elements. Originally I was going to go with a resin coat and then multiple coats of clear, but i heard the resin will yellow badly. The wood will be heart cypress, teak, or mahogany.

Sorry I can't post the image, getting unusual message from the gallery..  Is this the type of look you are going for?

http://m1248.photobucket.com/albumview/albums/dhba109/100_0772.jpg.html?o=1&newest=1



Edit: Thanks CB for posting!
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July 01, 2013, 10:08:43 AM
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Re: Fiberglass choices
« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2013, 10:08:43 AM »
Cetol is closer to a varnish, the main difference is that you don't need to sand it all off if it needs to be re-coated or touched up.  Basically an easy to apply varnish & a lot easier to maintain.
I put 3 coats on my teak, looks nice and is self leveling. just have to wait 24 hrs between coats & watch the humidity.
Mine's been cooking in the Florida sun for about 6 months & still looks great.
Never had that much longevity with oils.

 

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