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Aquasport Model Rebuilds, Mods, Updates and Refreshes => Center Console Professional (CCP) Rebuilds => 200 CCP Rebuilds => Topic started by: marcoislander23 on October 01, 2012, 11:29:54 AM

Title: 1978 200 ccp semi-rebuild
Post by: marcoislander23 on October 01, 2012, 11:29:54 AM
Semi-Rebuild of Ol' Betsy (1978 200 ccp)
Deck and transom is solid.
To Do List:
glass in custom baitwell w/hatch
white Gelcoat deck/gunnels to the top of rub rail
black web gelcoat the deck
black bottom paint
refurb the center console/gelcoat it white
setup electronics box with 2 polk audio coaxial speakers
mount t top
wire electronics box
mount 2 bose rectangular speakers in center console
last but not least let her taste the salt water once again
Title: Re: 1978 200 ccp semi-rebuild
Post by: fishinonthebrain on October 01, 2012, 05:22:21 PM
welcome some pictures please. :)
Title: Re: 1978 200 ccp semi-rebuild
Post by: marcoislander23 on October 02, 2012, 04:33:50 PM
Quote from: "fishinonthebrain"
welcome some pictures please. :)
They are in my member gallery i dont know how to post directly in a topic.
Title: Re: 1978 200 ccp semi-rebuild
Post by: Capt. Bob on October 02, 2012, 05:07:48 PM
Quote from: "marcoislander23"
Quote from: "fishinonthebrain"
welcome some pictures please. :)
They are in my member gallery i dont know how to post directly in a topic.

First one's always free. :mrgreen:
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data//500/IMG_00000008.jpg)

You got them to the Gallery so the hard work is done.
1. Go to your gallery and open (click) on the photo you want.
2. Right click on photo, menu box opens then left click on "save photo location.
3. Click on the "IMG" box in the "Post a rely" dialog box you're working in.
4. Note that the cursor is located between the two [img] boxes so....

Just hit "Ctrl v" and your golden.

Try it.
Title: Re: 1978 200 ccp semi-rebuild
Post by: marcoislander23 on October 02, 2012, 08:25:48 PM
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data//500/IMG_00000010.jpg)

Got it thanks Capt. Bob
Title: Re: 1978 200 ccp semi-rebuild
Post by: gran398 on October 02, 2012, 08:35:25 PM
Quote from: "marcoislander23"
Semi-Rebuild of Ol' Betsy (1978 200 ccp)
Deck and transom is solid.
To Do List:
glass in custom baitwell w/hatch
white Gelcoat deck/gunnels to the top of rub rail
black web gelcoat the deck
black bottom paint
refurb the center console/gelcoat it white
setup electronics box with 2 polk audio coaxial speakers
mount t top
wire electronics box
mount 2 bose rectangular speakers in center console
last but not least let her taste the salt water once again


Welcome aboard!

 Good to know you're from Marco :thumright:
Title: Re: 1978 200 ccp semi-rebuild
Post by: marcoislander23 on October 02, 2012, 08:40:02 PM
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data//500/IMG_00000009.jpg)
Title: Re: 1978 200 ccp semi-rebuild
Post by: marcoislander23 on October 02, 2012, 08:41:54 PM
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data//500/IMG_00000005.jpg)
Title: Re: 1978 200 ccp semi-rebuild
Post by: marcoislander23 on October 02, 2012, 08:44:13 PM
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data//500/IMG_00000004.jpg)
Title: Re: 1978 200 ccp semi-rebuild
Post by: marcoislander23 on October 02, 2012, 08:45:27 PM
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data//500/IMG_00000001.jpg)
Title: Re: 1978 200 ccp semi-rebuild
Post by: marcoislander23 on October 02, 2012, 08:48:29 PM
Quote from: "gran398"


Welcome aboard!

 Good to know you're from Marco :thumright:
Been here my whole life but i im only 13 so i guess it hasn't been to long :lol:
Title: Re: 1978 200 ccp semi-rebuild
Post by: gran398 on October 02, 2012, 09:11:13 PM
Quote from: "marcoislander23"
Quote from: "gran398"


Welcome aboard!

 Good to know you're from Marco :thumright:
Been here my whole life but i im only 13 so i guess it hasn't been to long :lol:


Thirteen is a great age! Thirteen is the age of self-discovery :lol:

Glad that you're from Marco. I have an old acquaintance in Marco.

Hang right here :wink:
Title: Re: 1978 200 ccp semi-rebuild
Post by: gran398 on October 02, 2012, 09:15:24 PM
PS...The box forward of the console is unusual...from the PO, or did you add it?


A solid leaning post, reversed....and appears to be of Northeast/Great Lakes origin.

Looks good, nice fit :thumright:
Title: Re: 1978 200 ccp semi-rebuild
Post by: seabob4 on October 02, 2012, 09:21:40 PM
Yeah Scott, Your "good buddy" down there... :shock:  :shock:
Title: Re: 1978 200 ccp semi-rebuild
Post by: gran398 on October 02, 2012, 09:39:44 PM
Quote from: "seabob4"
Yeah Scott, Your "good buddy" down there... :shock:  :shock:

Marco,

There was an issue three years ago with a thief from Marco. This thief was 79 years old, and screwed a member here out of good money (me)

The Marco Island Police were involved, and later the Marco Island Eagle newspaper.

Anyhow...we welcome you aboard.

Sorry for the digression...back to your rebuild :thumright:
Title: Re: 1978 200 ccp semi-rebuild
Post by: wingtime on October 02, 2012, 09:55:21 PM
Cool boat, cool rebuild!  Welcome aboard!
Title: Re: 1978 200 ccp semi-rebuild
Post by: Blue Agave on October 02, 2012, 10:20:31 PM
Welcome aboard!  :salut:

Marco is a great please to grow up!  Enjoy young man. :thumright:

Look forward to photos of the progress.
Title: Re: 1978 200 ccp semi-rebuild
Post by: fishinonthebrain on October 02, 2012, 10:33:01 PM
Quote from: "marcoislander23"
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data//500/IMG_00000010.jpg)

Got it thanks Capt. Bob


looks like your getting into it pretty good Marco. Is that autobody bondo that you are using in that patch job?
Title: Re: 1978 200 ccp semi-rebuild
Post by: Blue Agave on October 02, 2012, 10:38:38 PM
Quote from: "gran398"
PS...The box forward of the console is unusual...from the PO, or did you add it?
Scotty, to me that appears to be a livewell out of a 25' Hydra Sport.
Title: Re: 1978 200 ccp semi-rebuild
Post by: marcoislander23 on October 03, 2012, 06:00:00 PM
Quote from: "fishinonthebrain"
Quote from: "marcoislander23"
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data//500/IMG_00000010.jpg)

Got it thanks Capt. Bob


looks like your getting into it pretty good Marco. Is that autobody bondo that you are using in that patch job?
Well its more like fiberglass bondo but that was just put in to fill gap between the new plywood and the deck but it will be fiberglassed over and feathered into the deck.
Title: Re: 1978 200 ccp semi-rebuild
Post by: marcoislander23 on October 03, 2012, 06:08:37 PM
Quote from: "gran398"
PS...The box forward of the console is unusual...from the PO, or did you add it?


A solid leaning post, reversed....and appears to be of Northeast/Great Lakes origin.

Looks good, nice fit :thumright:
The box upfront is a seat with a cooler in it filled with 4" of foam insulation. That thing will hold ice for days. We added that but never finished installing it. I am sorry that you had to have such a bad expeirience down here in marco island. its funny that you say that because the reason we are doing all the work on our boat is because the guy who was supposed to be working on it was always asking for money and he did nothing but steal gas out of our tank. And what do you mean by it appears to be from NorthEast/great lakes origin , are you talking about the hull, leaning post or the cooler seat?
Title: Re: 1978 200 ccp semi-rebuild
Post by: fishinonthebrain on October 03, 2012, 06:31:30 PM
Quote from: "marcoislander23"
Quote from: "fishinonthebrain"
Quote from: "marcoislander23"
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data//500/IMG_00000010.jpg)

Got it thanks Capt. Bob


looks like your getting into it pretty good Marco. Is that autobody bondo that you are using in that patch job?
Well its more like fiberglass bondo but that was just put in to fill gap between the new plywood and the deck but it will be fiberglassed over and feathered into the deck.

You need to use some epoxy with a thicking agent. Like west system epoxy with some 407 mixed in. The autobody filler is not water proof like the epoxy is. You don't want to have to do it over again in a few months when the bondo swells up and gets saturated with water. that will suck. :(
Title: Re: 1978 200 ccp semi-rebuild
Post by: dirtwheelsfl on October 03, 2012, 07:27:31 PM
X2. Any glass you apply will only have the bonding strength of whatever is under it. That gap oughta be beveled then taped together with glass. Then fairing compound on top. Epoxy is the best. Waterproof, doesnt shrink, and is much stronger.
Title: Re: 1978 200 ccp semi-rebuild
Post by: gran398 on October 03, 2012, 08:38:11 PM
Quote from: "marcoislander23"
Quote from: "gran398"
PS...The box forward of the console is unusual...from the PO, or did you add it?


A solid leaning post, reversed....and appears to be of Northeast/Great Lakes origin.

Looks good, nice fit :thumright:
The box upfront is a seat with a cooler in it filled with 4" of foam insulation. That thing will hold ice for days. We added that but never finished installing it. I am sorry that you had to have such a bad expeirience down here in marco island. its funny that you say that because the reason we are doing all the work on our boat is because the guy who was supposed to be working on it was always asking for money and he did nothing but steal gas out of our tank. And what do you mean by it appears to be from NorthEast/great lakes origin , are you talking about the hull, leaning post or the cooler seat?


The problem was the old sumbich had been a thief all his life, and saw an honest southern boy that took a man at his word as a ringer. I unfortunately bit it hook, line and sinker. I did get two nice Mercs from the deal, the rest was an asswhippin'. You can read the entire tearjerk on Classifieds, Caveat Emptor. It was like Christmas morning, then somebody steals your toys at gunpoint.

There was a company up in Penn. long ago that used to make box-style leaning posts like yours, but damn if I can remember their name. Nice product though.
Title: Re: 1978 200 ccp semi-rebuild
Post by: gran398 on October 03, 2012, 08:49:43 PM
Quote from: "dirtwheelsfl"
X2. Any glass you apply will only have the bonding strength of whatever is under it. That gap oughta be beveled then taped together with glass. Then fairing compound on top. Epoxy is the best. Waterproof, doesnt shrink, and is much stronger.


Good advice guys
Title: Re: 1978 200 ccp semi-rebuild
Post by: marcoislander23 on October 04, 2012, 07:40:21 PM
Quote from: "dirtwheelsfl"
X2. Any glass you apply will only have the bonding strength of whatever is under it. That gap oughta be beveled then taped together with glass. Then fairing compound on top. Epoxy is the best. Waterproof, doesnt shrink, and is much stronger.
K thanks i will consider it.
Title: Re: 1978 200 ccp semi-rebuild
Post by: marcoislander23 on October 13, 2012, 09:29:54 PM
Hey guys sorry i havent posted in a while i have been busy in school. well we got the boat on a new to us :thumright:  dual axle trailer and moved it into our backyard now we can continue work on it. the deck is almost completly sanded and next is the gunnels and center console. I will post Pics tommorrow
Title: Re: 1978 200 ccp semi-rebuild
Post by: Whitewater on October 13, 2012, 09:56:33 PM
This looks like a great project and I am looking forward to seeing how you come about with it.  I've got a 10 year old son who I was looking to get into his own project in the next year or two.  

keep at it and keep the progress and pictures coming
Title: Re: 1978 200 ccp semi-rebuild
Post by: marcoislander23 on October 14, 2012, 07:24:24 PM
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data//500/IMAG0004.jpg)
She is in the Backyard
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data//500/IMAG0005.jpg)
Our outdoor workshop
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data//500/IMAG0006.jpg)
Center console half way prepped for gelcoat
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data//500/IMAG0007.jpg)
From another angle
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data//500/IMAG0008.jpg)
Had to cut down 4 shrubs and the fence just to get her in.
Title: Re: 1978 200 ccp semi-rebuild
Post by: marcoislander23 on October 20, 2012, 09:59:36 PM
Guys i can see the peices coming together now. the console is fully prepped for gelcoat, deck is sanded, splashwell is prepped to be fiberglassed in we have all the lights, small hardware, the electronic box for t top is primed and is recieving first layer of paint tomorrow. we have decided to (hopefully soon) paint the outside hull alwgrip fighting lady yellow, and from rubrail to bottom of gunnels in awlgrip white we also cored the center console with 2x6's for t top reinforcement. plan for tommorrow is to fiberglass splashwell, and core the aft boxes for there new seats. the core for the seats will be 2 layers of 3/4 inch plywood. pictures tommorrow YAY!!
Title: Re: 1978 200 ccp semi-rebuild
Post by: gran398 on October 20, 2012, 10:07:27 PM
Quote from: "marcoislander23"
Guys i can see the peices coming together now. the console is fully prepped for gelcoat, deck is sanded, splashwell is prepped to be fiberglassed in we have all the lights, small hardware, the electronic box for t top is primed and is recieving first layer of paint tomorrow. we have decided to (hopefully soon) paint the outside hull alwgrip fighting lady yellow, and from rubrail to bottom of gunnels in awlgrip white we also cored the center console with 2x6's for t top reinforcement. plan for tommorrow is to fiberglass splashwell, and core the aft boxes for there new seats. the core for the seats will be 2 layers of 3/4 inch plywood. pictures tommorrow YAY!!


Excellent!

Glass that plywood all sides, heavier on the tops.

Take your time, get her right...and keep posting pics :thumright:
Title: Re: 1978 200 ccp semi-rebuild
Post by: marcoislander23 on October 21, 2012, 02:02:56 PM
oh yah trust me we took our time and the fiberglass layup is perfect on all sides luckily my dad has done tons of fiberglass work years before so he has taught me a lot i have started to do a few on my own and i honeslty think my layups look better and are stronger than his, i am getting my camera charged so i can get some pics for you guys.
Title: Re: 1978 200 ccp semi-rebuild
Post by: marcoislander23 on October 22, 2012, 06:47:15 PM
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data//500/IMG_000000073.jpg)
 where we fiberglassed 2 2x6's into the center console for t top reinforcement.
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data//500/IMG_000000072.jpg)
all the old screw holes now filled in with cabosil and polyester resin which makes the center console now ready for gelcoat. :cheers:
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data//500/IMG_000000071.jpg)
electronic box with first layers of gloss white enamel. the bumps on top were from pollen wich luckily fell onto it after it dried.
Title: Re: 1978 200 ccp semi-rebuild
Post by: marcoislander23 on October 22, 2012, 07:20:01 PM
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data//500/IMG_000000075.jpg)
also forgot to post this picture of all our gelcoat and painting tools the cup guns and the airbrush have automotive finish tips in them and will be used for the outside hull awlgrip and the interior gunnels awl grip. the airbrush is gonna be used for the outboard motor cowl and light touch ups around the hull after the paint job. we might do a design on the hull with it  :shock:
Title: Re: 1978 200 ccp semi-rebuild
Post by: saltfly on October 22, 2012, 08:17:15 PM
Hey marcois great job. Just got to looking, and wanted to ask you. And plase don’t thank I’m nit picking. But are those air bubbles in your glass work on the 2x6s? Where the glass looks white. If it is, you may want to conserder grinding them out now and fill. Condensation can build up in those bubbles and cause rot later down the road. Your doing a great job and I would hate to see rot start later when you can get to it now. I know their for support for your T top, but fixing a potential problem now would be better then the alterative. :thumleft:
Title: Re: 1978 200 ccp semi-rebuild
Post by: fishinonthebrain on October 22, 2012, 08:19:50 PM
Quote from: "marcoislander23"
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data//500/IMG_000000075.jpg)
also forgot to post this picture of all our gelcoat and painting tools the cup guns and the airbrush have automotive finish tips in them and will be used for the outside hull awlgrip and the interior gunnels awl grip. the airbrush is gonna be used for the outboard motor cowl and light touch ups around the hull after the paint job. we might do a design on the hull with it  :shock:

What are you going to spray the webbing solution on? How will that look? I see you have some blue tint and white gelcoat where are you going to paint light blue?
Title: Re: 1978 200 ccp semi-rebuild
Post by: marcoislander23 on October 22, 2012, 09:56:52 PM
Quote from: "saltfly"
Hey marcois great job. Just got to looking, and wanted to ask you. And plase don’t thank I’m nit picking. But are those air bubbles in your glass work on the 2x6s? Where the glass looks white. If it is, you may want to conserder grinding them out now and fill. Condensation can build up in those bubbles and cause rot later down the road. Your doing a great job and I would hate to see rot start later when you can get to it now. I know their for support for your T top, but fixing a potential problem now would be better then the alterative. :thumleft:
Thanks for picking that out. yes we are going to grind them out and fill or possibly lay another layer of just 1.5 oz mat. they will also later be coated in gelcoat to prevent water penetration.
Title: Re: 1978 200 ccp semi-rebuild
Post by: marcoislander23 on October 22, 2012, 10:00:47 PM
Quote from: "fishinonthebrain"
Quote from: "marcoislander23"
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data//500/IMG_000000075.jpg)
also forgot to post this picture of all our gelcoat and painting tools the cup guns and the airbrush have automotive finish tips in them and will be used for the outside hull awlgrip and the interior gunnels awl grip. the airbrush is gonna be used for the outboard motor cowl and light touch ups around the hull after the paint job. we might do a design on the hull with it  :shock:

What are you going to spray the webbing solution on? How will that look? I see you have some blue tint and white gelcoat where are you going to paint light blue?

We are going to gelcoat the deck white then spray on the black webbing. the livewell will be gelcoated light blue. the gunnels and outside hull will be sprayed in awl grip which we do not have yet.
p.s. good eye catching the blue tint
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