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June 24, 2013, 08:21:14 AM
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clementsea

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1976 22-2 re-power
« on: June 24, 2013, 08:21:14 AM »
Hi folks,

I haven't posted anything here since last October... since I went through trying to get my Johnson 1983 175hp to run without success.  Well, it was always in my plan to re-power the hull, but I was hoping for a bit longer use out of the old 175...

My situation has changed and I'm able to re-power the boat now.  Add to that the promo that Evinrude is running (6 yr warranty, & "free" oil reservoir, wiring harness, binnacle mount throttle and ignition, ss prop, icon plus twin guage system & key switch assembly)... so, I'm going to pull the trigger on an new e-tec 150 (E150DPXAA).  I have a few questions though:

1.  guy doing the work says that I can use a 20" shaft engine (transom is 20" from mount cut out to keel), but thinks I'd be better off getting the 25" shaft after hearing that I planned on re-building the transom sometime in the next 3 yrs.  He's offering a bracket that he has that will raise the mount by the appropriate amount to run the 25" engine... thoughts?

2.  After searching thru prior posts, it seems like the 150 hp is a good match for the boat.  Running around in New England chop, I don't have the need to go fast much, but would like the top end for the boat to be in the mid 40mph range... the only 22-2 re-power I saw was for a flat back.  Was hoping for input on 150 vs 175...

Thanks!
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June 24, 2013, 08:50:05 AM
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Re: 1976 22-2 re-power
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2013, 08:50:05 AM »
My 83 hull has a 25 inch transom and with my very thirsty 94 175 Oceanrunner at 5500 I get 44 mph on the GPS. This is with a 14.25 X 17 Turbo1. My thinking is why not go with the biggest motor you can afford. One day when out and about you might need that little extra to get yourself out of trouble. My motor and hull with the Uflex steering is very responsive and jumps on plane and will accelerate very quickly. If and when this motor goes away I will definitely go back with a 175 of some sort. SC170nfl has a 200 on his and it is even quicker than mine.
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June 24, 2013, 09:09:40 AM
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Re: 1976 22-2 re-power
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2013, 09:09:40 AM »
Keep in mind that the horse power of your old 175 was rated at the crank shaft. The new etec 150hp is rated at the prop. So the performance will probably be about the same.

Putting a 25" shaft motor with a bracket on a 20" transom boat will put more stress on the old transom due to the leverage the motor will have against the hull. That said a jack plate would allow you to perfectly adjust the motors ride height. On the other hand you could just buy a 5" extension for the 20" motor when you do the rebuild down the road.
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June 24, 2013, 10:30:37 AM
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Re: 1976 22-2 re-power
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2013, 10:30:37 AM »
Thanks guys,

I was told that you cannot extend the new e-tec... any idea who makes the extension kit and how much it costs?
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June 24, 2013, 11:42:55 AM
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Re: 1976 22-2 re-power
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2013, 11:42:55 AM »
Quote from: "clementsea"
Thanks guys,

I was told that you cannot extend the new e-tec... any idea who makes the extension kit and how much it costs?


Give these nice folks a call :thumright: Tell them you are from CAS, and ask for "dealer pricing" :wink:

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June 24, 2013, 06:30:37 PM
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Re: 1976 22-2 re-power
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2013, 06:30:37 PM »
Thanks!  That really helps... I was going to spend $250 on a bracket and have to look at it for 2-4 yrs while waiting till I'm ready to re-build my deck and transom... much better solution.
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June 24, 2013, 09:27:09 PM
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Re: 1976 22-2 re-power
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2013, 09:27:09 PM »
Just out of curiosity, who told you that a 150 Etec can't be extended from 20...to 25...to 30 if you want, and why?


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June 25, 2013, 12:03:07 AM
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Re: 1976 22-2 re-power
« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2013, 12:03:07 AM »
The guy who I'm buying the e-tec from... I made quite a few phone calls and this guy has a real solid reputation for Evinrude installation and service (basically the best in the area), so I'm not sure why he either didn't know about the extension or didn't want to tell me about it.  I feel his numbers for the engine and install are reasonable, so, it's a bit of a mystery to me.  

I wasn't real keen about looking at the bracket until I do the re-build, so it's good to know I can just go with the 20" and make the mod if and when I do the transom work...
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June 25, 2013, 12:25:54 AM
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Re: 1976 22-2 re-power
« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2013, 12:25:54 AM »
Checking specs....it is available 25 inch from the factory:

http://www.evinrude.com/en-CA/Engines/E ... TEC_150_V6

I'm pleased with the Bayside product....but if what you are looking is available in 25 inch, and it is...no need to go there.

In general...the 25 inch option begins with most manufacturers at 90-115 HP.

June 25, 2013, 09:59:56 AM
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Re: 1976 22-2 re-power
« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2013, 09:59:56 AM »
Gran,

Not sure I completely understand the message... So what you're saying is you would get the 25" shaft e-tec and use the jack plate based on the anticipation of re-building the transom?
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June 25, 2013, 10:59:00 AM
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Re: 1976 22-2 re-power
« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2013, 10:59:00 AM »
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Gran,

Not sure I completely understand the message... So what you're saying is you would get the 25" shaft e-tec and use the jack plate based on the anticipation of re-building the transom?
If your intention is to rebuild the transom I would definitely go with the 25" motor.

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June 25, 2013, 12:18:31 PM
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Re: 1976 22-2 re-power
« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2013, 12:18:31 PM »
That's correct. As Nando says, if you will rebuild at some point to a 25 inch transom...get the 25 inch engine.

In the meantime...run the new 25 inch on the existing 20 inch transom with the jackplate.

June 25, 2013, 03:23:48 PM
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Re: 1976 22-2 re-power
« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2013, 03:23:48 PM »
25s are by FAR the most common shaft lengths.  20 inchers are bass and flats boat stuff, 30s for the big boys...


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June 25, 2013, 05:23:53 PM
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Re: 1976 22-2 re-power
« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2013, 05:23:53 PM »
so for something like this situation could a manual 5" jack plate work- in a "set it and forget it" mode and then go with a 25" shaft motor?
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June 25, 2013, 05:28:41 PM
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« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2013, 05:28:41 PM »
Quote from: "love2fish"
so for something like this situation could a manual 5" jack plate work- in a "set it and forget it" mode and then go with a 25" shaft motor?

Yep.  Once you get your cav plate height dialed in, torque down the bolts and run with it...


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