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Aquasport Model Rebuilds, Mods, Updates and Refreshes => Osprey Style Hull Rebuilds => 246 Rebuilds => Topic started by: g.herring on February 27, 2010, 07:52:04 PM

Title: transom
Post by: g.herring on February 27, 2010, 07:52:04 PM
I was under the impression, no wood in transom. I noticed some gaps in the caulk at the transom/line joint, I pulled the caps off and see some a plywood edge. Anyone know if this is just up top or does it run to the bottom of the transom?
Thanks
Geoff
(http://i940.photobucket.com/albums/ad244/geoffherr/transom/IMG00486-20100227-1733.jpg)
Title: Re: transom
Post by: seabob4 on February 27, 2010, 07:57:49 PM
THAT is definitely wood.  Year?  Model?
Title: Re: transom
Post by: g.herring on February 27, 2010, 08:01:20 PM
how could i forget to include that  
she is a 1997 245 osprey

Thanks
Geoff
Title: Re: transom
Post by: seabob4 on February 27, 2010, 08:22:23 PM
Quote from: "g.herring"
how could i forget to include that  
she is a 1997 245 osprey

Thanks
Geoff

Geoff,
Damn, damn, damn...
I want to say your transom is poured foam, but based on that pic...

I knew when I saw that piece of vacu-formed transom trim in the splashwell it was an Osprey/Explorer single engine...

Yes, I am speechless here...
Title: Re: transom
Post by: Circle Hooked on February 27, 2010, 10:46:40 PM
Bob is there a way to determine a manufacture date by the hull numbers.

I would like to compare when Geoff's boat was made compared to mine,both 97's
Title: Re: transom
Post by: seabob4 on February 27, 2010, 11:12:40 PM
Quote from: "Circle Hooked"
Bob is there a way to determine a manufacture date by the hull numbers.

I would like to compare when Geoff's boat was made compared to mine,both 97's

Check this out, Boat HIN (http://www.boatsafe.com/nauticalknowhow/hin.htm), then compare the two...
Title: Re: transom
Post by: Circle Hooked on February 27, 2010, 11:26:57 PM
Geoff can you check you hull for a date, mine is or was March 7th 1997.

Thanks Scott.
Title: Re: transom
Post by: Circle Hooked on February 27, 2010, 11:29:23 PM
Thanks for the link Bob.

Scott.
Title: Re: transom
Post by: RickK on February 28, 2010, 04:56:19 AM
Quote from: "seabob4"
Yes, I am speechless here...

whoa



 :wink:
Title: Re: transom
Post by: g.herring on February 28, 2010, 03:43:58 PM
My boat was manufactured 8/6.  I wonder why and how often this happened. I bought it from the original owner and he never had work done. It's a mystery.

Thanks
Geoff
Title: Re: transom
Post by: labboss2003 on February 28, 2010, 04:08:03 PM
I would re ask the original owner our trace it back to the dealer he bought it from see if there has been a fix somewhere down the line...long shot..seems there's a lot of caulk used there maybe seabob could tell if that much caulk was normal......but what do I know
Title: Re: transom
Post by: fabuck71 on February 28, 2010, 09:24:06 PM
Seabob,

Isn't that just on top of the pored transom to keep that European look??  I think the transom is poured with the sides above the transom are wood!
Title: Re: transom
Post by: Circle Hooked on February 28, 2010, 09:37:50 PM
Quote from: "fabuck71"
Seabob,

Isn't that just on top of the pored transom to keep that European look??  I think the transom is poured with the sides above the transom are wood!

I hope thats all,i want to check my boat but it's in the shop getting motor work.
Title: Re: transom
Post by: seabob4 on February 28, 2010, 09:51:43 PM
Quote from: "fabuck71"
Seabob,

Isn't that just on top of the pored transom to keep that European look??  I think the transom is poured with the sides above the transom are wood!

Alex,
It just seems the "ply" is a little to close to the transom cavity for my liking.  Yes, the glass forming the cavity was higher than the surrounding transom coring, the was cut flush in the cutting dept. after the transom had been poured and kicked off.

On rare occasion the lam department would run out of the end-grain balsa coring for the cockpit sole, so they would use marine ply.  Worked, but made for a heavier boat.  But the coring in the transom away from the load bearing area by the motor?  Do I remember the transition from ply to foam-core when cutting a transom to hang a single?  Yeah, I guess I do.  I guess it's just been such a long time...I just always remember the foam core extending quite a bit further outboard than what Geoff showed in his pic...basically, this is where the ply ended and the foam started...
(http://s259.photobucket.com/albums/hh301/seabob4/TransomCutout.jpg)

Hey, you never know what comes out of lamination, regardless of the builder...
Title: Re: transom
Post by: Circle Hooked on March 02, 2010, 07:04:14 PM
Got the boat back today and pulled that molding off,looks like i have some wood to.
Title: Re: transom
Post by: seabob4 on March 02, 2010, 07:14:16 PM
Scott,
Sorry about the finish work...but, dammit, I thought that wood was too close to the foam transom!

RickK, I am no longer speechless! :cheers:
Title: Re: transom
Post by: Circle Hooked on March 02, 2010, 07:33:09 PM
Not the best pics in the dark

(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z96/circlehooked/aquasport/DSC00007.jpg)

(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z96/circlehooked/aquasport/DSC00004.jpg)
Title: Re: transom
Post by: Circle Hooked on March 02, 2010, 07:36:20 PM
Never would have know,that molding does a good job.
Title: Re: transom
Post by: labboss2003 on March 02, 2010, 07:51:58 PM
Makes me want to pull that cap off mine.....it was built in may 98
Title: Re: transom
Post by: Circle Hooked on March 02, 2010, 07:56:59 PM
Quote from: "labboss2003"
Makes me want to pull that cap off mine.....it was built in may 98


I kinda wish i didn't now, but curiosity got me.
Title: Re: transom
Post by: seabob4 on March 02, 2010, 08:07:27 PM
The transom cut out for single engine installs transitioned from wood to foam in that general area.  In other words, when I was ready to prep the transom for a single, I had to cut out that section that is trimmed with the plastic molding and the aluminum.  Twins just had aluminum running straight across.  The piece I cut out would transition from wood to foam and back to wood again.  If you could take off the L-channel aluminum piece, you would find a medium gray material underneath as hard as a rock.  In fact, when I would install the aluminum, I would "wallow" out the holes a bit in the foam, or else the screw heads would snap off when I installed it!

Scott, now you just have to find a replacement for that Vacu-formed trim you tore up!  But trimming that section out with similar aluminum will work just as well.  We used to smear that entire wood surface with 5200 (reason those trim pieces stuck so well!), but a good epoxy coating will work just as well.

On a different note, I have asked RickK to allow me to change my screen name to Bob C.  You guys know me, it's just easier to deal with, for me.  Makes things a little more personable.  I mean, when your last name is Christiansen, well, it's a WHOLE lot easier for a lot of people!

Bob C
Title: Re: transom
Post by: labboss2003 on March 02, 2010, 08:17:39 PM
I just went out and tried to pull up the cap on mine ,but i stopped when is started to crack. came in and read what Bob C wrote and had a little chuckle... no offense CH.


Oh and Bob C ....my last name starts with a C too ,maybe I can be Bob C2 :P
Title: Re: transom
Post by: seabob4 on March 02, 2010, 08:44:56 PM
Quote from: "labboss2003"
I just went out and tried to pull up the cap on mine ,but i stopped when is started to crack. came in and read what Bob C wrote and had a little chuckle... no offense CH.


Oh and Bob C ....my last name starts with a C too ,maybe I can be Bob C2 :P

:*:, Bob, after what you went through dealing with those sorryasses at outboardrebuild, you can be Bob C and I'll just be regular old Bob C... :thumright:
Title: Re: transom
Post by: Circle Hooked on March 02, 2010, 08:46:08 PM
Bob thats good to know about the transom,as for the molding if i didn't create more work for myself,something would be wrong because i always do. :x

The molding isn't to bad ,a few pieces broke of but they fit right back in place,see what some 5200 and super glue will do,if it looks like crap i might use your suggestion.

Bob C sounds good to be. :thumright:

Bob C2 no offense taken.  :thumright:
Title: Re: transom
Post by: Circle Hooked on March 02, 2010, 08:48:17 PM
Quote from: "seabob4"
Quote from: "labboss2003"
I just went out and tried to pull up the cap on mine ,but i stopped when is started to crack. came in and read what Bob C wrote and had a little chuckle... no offense CH.


Oh and Bob C ....my last name starts with a C too ,maybe I can be Bob C2 :P

:*:, Bob, after what you went through dealing with those sorryasses at outboardrebuild, you can be Bob C and I'll just be regular old Bob C... :thumright:

Kinda have to agree with that one Bob :wink:
Title: Re: transom
Post by: seabob4 on March 02, 2010, 08:59:56 PM
Ahh, I talked to Rick, gonna stick with seabob, but you guys know who I am...

Scott, put that piece of trim back in place with 5200 and lightly c-clamp that corner back in place.  It will be fine...
Title: Re: transom
Post by: Capt. Bob on March 02, 2010, 09:01:19 PM
Quote from: "seabob4"

Scott, now you just have to find a replacement for that Vacu-formed trim you tore up!  But trimming that section out with similar aluminum will work just as well.  

Bob C

I take it that stuff just isn't available anymore, correct?

Half of mine is gone. I thought about aluminum, just have to figure the bending part out. :scratch:
Title: Re: transom
Post by: Circle Hooked on March 02, 2010, 09:07:10 PM
Thanks Bob thats the plan for now,and my boat guy showed me the old motor mounts,wow that was scary.
Title: Re: transom
Post by: seabob4 on March 02, 2010, 09:30:55 PM
Quote from: "Circle Hooked"
Thanks Bob thats the plan for now,and my boat guy showed me the old motor mounts,wow that was scary.

Is the term "slap wore out" appropriate? :shock:
Title: Re: transom
Post by: Circle Hooked on March 02, 2010, 10:15:51 PM
And the some,2 mounts reduced to, didn't bother counting how many pieces.

Saltwater is evil
Title: Re: transom
Post by: seabob4 on March 02, 2010, 11:25:29 PM
Quote from: "Circle Hooked"
And the some,2 mounts reduced to, didn't bother counting how many pieces.

Saltwater is evil

...But it where all the good stuff lives! :thumleft:
Title: Re: transom
Post by: Circle Hooked on March 02, 2010, 11:38:23 PM
Quote from: "seabob4"
Quote from: "Circle Hooked"
And the some,2 mounts reduced to, didn't bother counting how many pieces.

Saltwater is evil

...But it where all the good stuff lives! :thumleft:

Yes Yes Yum Yum can't wait for grouper to open up. :lol:
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