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May 04, 2020, 02:37:44 PM
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Re: Mike B's 19-1 Refinish
« Reply #105 on: May 04, 2020, 02:37:44 PM »
Absolutely, glad to hear you're going to be making some forward progress!

I like to use slow hardener over 70 degrees (especially if on a big job, like a deck), and fast below that, since it cures down to 45 degrees or so. All personal preference though. You can make anything work.

Can't wait to see it start to come together. I'm about 2 weeks out from first splash (hopefully) assuming we can get some decent weather.

May 15, 2020, 07:22:26 PM
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Re: Mike B's 19-1 Refinish
« Reply #106 on: May 15, 2020, 07:22:26 PM »
Making Progress.. Wife is out of town, so I moved the mistress back into the 2nd garage now that I'm done sanding the transom. Jamestown came through, so I now believe I have all the glass materials I need for at least the transom.  I've got the form for the transom core sketched, and hopefully tomorrow I'll cut those out.  Still 58 degrees, and my buddy is giving me a salamander heater, which won't be here til Sunday...

She Just BARELY fits in the door cockeyed enough so I don't have to move my workbench


Since I'm at a standstill on the transom, I figured I'd dismantle the console.  With as many holes as there are in it, i'm surprised it didn't dismantle itself.  I'm assuming I'm not the only one who's curious.  So I guess I'll ask.  What's the record number of holes (screw holes, wire runs, etc. that someone on this site has had to fill in a console... I have to assume I'm up there...


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My hopes of seeing the water this year are all but gone.  Boothbay Harbor has an antique boat parade every year.  My goal is to be in that parade next year, for the 50th birthday.  Lets just hope she doesn't look 50 years old as it goes by....


May 17, 2020, 07:06:12 AM
Reply #107

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Re: Mike B's 19-1 Refinish
« Reply #107 on: May 17, 2020, 07:06:12 AM »
Hang in there man... you will get there and it will all be worth it!

May 17, 2020, 05:12:48 PM
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Re: Mike B's 19-1 Refinish
« Reply #108 on: May 17, 2020, 05:12:48 PM »
What is your plan with the center console? 
1974' 240 CC - https://classicaquasport.com/smf/index.php?topic=15975.0
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May 18, 2020, 07:35:40 AM
Reply #109

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Re: Mike B's 19-1 Refinish
« Reply #109 on: May 18, 2020, 07:35:40 AM »
Not sure how I'm going to tackle the center console.  I think i'm going to cut the instrument section out from the top, then re-core it and glass over it...?  not sure there is a good way to repair the swiss cheese without putting new plywood in it and glassing over.  Probably just as easy to do one big repair instead of 30 small ones.

May 18, 2020, 06:27:33 PM
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« Reply #110 on: May 18, 2020, 06:27:33 PM »
You can also cut some of the width out of it so you can get by it on the sides easier.
Rick
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May 20, 2020, 05:23:07 AM
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Re: Mike B's 19-1 Refinish
« Reply #111 on: May 20, 2020, 05:23:07 AM »
^^^ x2 on what he said! I had mine all marked and ready to take 6” out of the middle of my 170, but stripers were closing in on us and I figured it would be fine. It’s not, in fact I’m still seriously thinking about tearing it out and cutting it, wasting the brand new cushions and all.
I won’t be making that mistake on the 196
1978 "170" 91' Yamaha 90hp
1973 “196” (just getting started)
Mike

May 25, 2020, 09:08:42 AM
Reply #112

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« Reply #112 on: May 25, 2020, 09:08:42 AM »
Well.... I have finally added something back into the boat.  Heated up the garage yesterday, and epoxied the two 3/4 in sheets of marine ply together, and got my first layers of glass over the old glass in the transom.  I was a little concerned at 8 pm when I ran out of propane for the heater (38 degrees outside), and there was still a slight tack to the epoxy, but this morning thats all gone.  Fortunately the detached garage is insulated, so it holds heat well.  Rick, you'll be glad to know I got my pipe in. After kicking it about 100 times away from where I wanted it to sit while wetting out the glass, its in place, and will probably never move again without a grinder.  Wow, does that 1708 take some epoxy to wet out.  When I was reading and I saw 1 gallon for every 27 sq feet, I thought to myself no way.  Yup, I'm about there, but it feels strong as hell.  I was surprised how much the original glass flexed on the transom, but just with the glass and no core, I can barely budge it.  Now I have to dry fit my marine ply again and shape it to fit snug.  I went exxxtra wide on the notch for the motor after wingnuts adventure.  Still I've cut 20" out of the back that will want to splash over. Still not sure on raising the deck... I mean I'm in here... I have to level the two outter stringers anyway.... I really don't want to cut the tops off the stringers....


May 25, 2020, 06:59:16 PM
Reply #113

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Re: Mike B's 19-1 Refinish
« Reply #113 on: May 25, 2020, 06:59:16 PM »
Looking great! Glad my misadventure could be a cautionary tale. If the thickness stays the same, I THINK it should be ok, but why risk it?

Caught our first striper of the season this evening, they are heading your way!

May 27, 2020, 12:58:44 PM
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« Reply #114 on: May 27, 2020, 12:58:44 PM »
Looking good man!

Stripers are here in earnest on the north shore of MA! I lasted about a week after they arrived and caved and bought a boat

May 29, 2020, 09:59:39 PM
Reply #115

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« Reply #115 on: May 29, 2020, 09:59:39 PM »
No way, what did you end up getting Enginerd? That didn’t last long! Hope the rebuild is going well. It’s good to see all of these boats coming together in the northeast.


June 08, 2020, 07:06:54 AM
Reply #116

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Re: Mike B's 19-1 Refinish
« Reply #116 on: June 08, 2020, 07:06:54 AM »
Progress.....





Had to make a couple batches of epoxy, and had some that didn't seem to want to kick.  Cranked the heater up and got the place about 85 degrees... hardened right up.  Feels solid as a rock.  Fillets and glassing now... Maybe its time to order some half inch marine ply for the deck.....  Maybe she will see the water this summer with no make-up on.

June 09, 2020, 08:46:25 AM
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Re: Mike B's 19-1 Refinish
« Reply #117 on: June 09, 2020, 08:46:25 AM »
Looking great! You can totally make it for a late summer splash. Just gently encourage your wife to go on trips!

June 09, 2020, 10:15:55 AM
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Re: Mike B's 19-1 Refinish
« Reply #118 on: June 09, 2020, 10:15:55 AM »
She left town for the week.... good call!

June 09, 2020, 07:23:29 PM
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Re: Mike B's 19-1 Refinish
« Reply #119 on: June 09, 2020, 07:23:29 PM »
Alright... I get it now about the fillets, and 1708 not liking corners.... and that has brought me to a halt in progress.  My initial thought was to overlap the 1708 from the inside of the transom, over the cap, and down the stern.  There's no way that's going to happen.  Fortunately I saw what would soon be my difficulty on a smaller section before I got there.  The two 90's I'll have to come over 2" apart from each other to form the cap on the transom isn't going to happen with 1708, at least not as I planned. After what I believe to be the demise of the previous transom (a crack along the cap at the top...I'm inclined to have pieces of mat completely overlapping  from the inside to the outside of the transom.. am I wrong in this?  Can I cover the transom cap with chopped strand mat instead and will that be forgiving enough around the 2 90's?  How do I tackle the cap on the transom?

 

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