Classic AquaSport
General Aquasport Forums => Aquasport Discussion => Topic started by: Hardwater on December 14, 2008, 02:38:28 PM
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As contributions to this thread continue, a 'Contents' summary is being added with the intention of improving usefulness as a reference source for those with an interest in the Aquasport CCP series. Thanks to everyone who has contributed photos and information.
A Member Name search or review of a Member Gallery will often provide many additional photos of a specific hull or projects that are in progress or have been completed.
Contents:
Note: Year and model in bold indicates photo and (# of photos) followed by Member Name.
Page 1.
1. Intro.
2. 1986 222 (2), Hardwater.
3. 1980 22-2 (3), GoneFission. Many custom upgrades. (Many add'l photos on other threads.)
4. 1989 250 (2), DOCREED. Full transom & transom bracket, twin 150HP Mercs, T-top.
5. 1979 200 (3), allen456.
6. 1984 222 (1), Capt. Bob. Full transom & bracket.
7. 1981 200 (4), jdupree. T-top, Tahitian Tan.
8. 1978 200 (10), kaptainkoz. Custom mahogany upgrades, SS light tower.
9. CCP list update.
10. 1982 246 (4), kamakaze. T-top, starboard replacing teak.
11. 1985 200 (1), Wayne'sWorld.
Page 2.
1. 1978 200, bdstr.
2. 1979 200, weakfish.
3. CCP list update.
4. Hull Identification Number (HIN) information.
Page 3.
1. 1980 22-2 console (1), GoneFission. Information on console change between the 1980 and 1981 model years. Information on model designation change from 22-2CCP (up to 1980) to 222CCP (1981 and later).
2. Discussion of teak finish options and starboard (6).
Page 4.
1. 1985 222, smitty 1.
2. 1988 222 (5), damnitbadger. Full transom and bracket.
3. 1979 222, zerorulz.
4. CCP list update.
5. 1979 22-2 (4), Ideal.
6. 1985 250, hooked up. (Note: photos in Member Gallery.)
Page 5.
1. Additional discussion of teak finishing and Starboard replacement. 1989 250 console (1), DOCREED.
2. 1987 250 (5), JoseGaspar. T-top, deep blue hull.
3. 1988 222, 222 ccp dgraf.
4. 1989 222, SULLY_0063.
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1. 1978 22-2 ( 8 ), John Jones.
2. 1983 246, Native Son. (Note: link to photos at photobucket.)
3. CCP list update.
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This is intended to be a 'information project' of sorts based on comment made by RickK on another thread regarding limited/low production numbers for the Aquasport CCP models. Aquasport had a long history (unfortunately ended by Genmar) of producing a number of notable models and desirable hulls from the 1960s through the end of production in 2005. The Center Console Professional - or CCP - line seems to fall in both those groups. While there are a number of CCP owners here that come to mind right away, an index would be interesting (maybe useful) and incoming members are encouraged to add to the list.
In responding, add information on year, model/length, Hull ID number, power and any other related or historical information specific to your boat or the model line in general. Try to list your model as it was designated by Aquasport (i.e. 22-2 CCP, 200 CCP, 222 CCP, 250 CCP, etc.) since there were changes in factory designations over the years. Hull IDs will give some idea of the earliest models as well as those toward the end of production.
If possible, post photos to show the model - as well as photos of modifications. Please try to keep the thread on track.
To start, mine is as follows:
Year: 1986.
Model: 222 CCP.
Hull ID #: ASPA05951586.
Power: 1988 200hp Mercury Black Max - carbed.
Other info: Built at the Hialeah, Florida plant. Originally rigged and sold in 1988 at Yacht Works, Inc. in Sister Bay, Wisconsin on Lake Michigan. This boat came with the coffin box, bimini and forward shelter/bow dodger. It was rigged with hydraulic steering and Bennett trim tabs.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v502/dsampsel/1986%20Aquasport%20222-CCP/373.jpg)
Modifications: The original owner lowered the height of the splashwell wall and had a teak platform seat installed. It's not be best photo to show it, but the seat can be seen in the one below:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v502/dsampsel/1986%20Aquasport%20222-CCP/371-1.jpg)
Did Aquasport ever list the production numbers of the CCPs - either in total or for the individual hull lengths? What were the actual years of production (mid-to-late 1970s to late-1980s-early-1990s?)? Is it correct that when Aquasport eliminated the CCP designation, the same (or similar) hull was re-badged as the Osprey?
(Edited to reflect Genmar's role in terminating the Aquasport line - not Brunswick.)
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1980 22-2 CCP
1987 200 Mercury Black Max Carb Model
ASPA0345M80I
"Gone Fission"
Originally purchased in New Jersey
Not in great shape when I got it, but looking pretty good now...
(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j7/GoneFission/GoneFission-top10-08.jpg)
(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j7/GoneFission/GoneFissiononTrailer.jpg)
(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j7/GoneFission/GoneFissionLakeNorman10-05.jpg)
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1989 250 CCP
Full transom
Twin 150 Merc's
Previous owner was from Lake O area.
worn with ratty canvas when I got it.
slowly coming back to its former glory.
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/15011son.jpg)
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/1501feb802.jpg)
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Year: 1979
Model: 200 CCP
Hull ID# ASPP0226M79A
Power: 1981 Johnson 175
Built in Hialeah, Fl and was originally sold from a dealer on the Ga coast. I am the third owner and the boat was gifted to me in October. Slowly bringing her back to life and deciding how original I want to keep her. Still looking for a name ( never has been truly named). The boat was moored in a covered dock for the past 12-15 years.
(http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj74/allen456/Examples103-1.jpg)
(http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj74/allen456/inwater005.jpg)
(http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj74/allen456/inwater110-1.jpg)
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1984 222CCP.
Hialeah hull # ASPA0492M84E
Third owner (?)
1. Was in Naples.
2. Moved to Homestead after Andrew.
3. Purchased in 10 October 1995.
Re-powered with 96 "Rude 200 Ocean Pro
B-Bracket full transom bracket. Hydraulic steering
Completely re-wired (except the two running to front nav lights).
Trim tabs, Stock Bimini top (new cloth of course), coffin, teak.
Batteries re-located under console. Replaced tank in 1998+/-
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff108/r-berlin/rom3andkarlatdogisle.jpg?t=1229395757)
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Year: 1981
Model: 200 CCP
Hull ID: ASPP0590M81D (Hialeah, FL.)
Power: 1992 200 HP Mercury Offshore
Other info: Drove up to Deleware to purchase this boat. Not sure how many previous owners. Boat needed much cosmetic work which I have done other than bottom paint. Improvements include: New gas tank, custom cushions for coffin box, t-top, teak re-finished, washdown system with portable 30gal livewell. I have tried to keep her as original as possible.
The 200 CCP is rare, but the color of mine makes it even more rare. Aquasport called it Tahitian Tan. Did not care for it at first, but it has grown on me. Here is the brochure for my model on the right, followed by my pictures.
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/572/68AS_all_models_brochure11_1980.jpg)
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/368IMG_0692.JPG)
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/368IMG_0693.JPG)
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/368IMG_0636.JPG)
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Year: 1978
Model: 200 CCP.
Hull ID #: ASPP0160M78F
Power: 1986 Evinrude 225 for now, 1988 Evinrude 175 once 225 is sold
Other info: Built at the Hialeah, Florida plant. Trim tabs.This boat came with the coffin box. She was purchased in august of 2008 on Long Island NY in dismal shape. I have no idea of her history. She is a work in progress and I love every minute of it! Thats me in the Fore, Pops is in the aft. not pictured here, but the boat is named "Captain Koz" which you cant miss being I put the name on both sides.... 9 inches by five feet!
(http://i457.photobucket.com/albums/qq300/kaptainkoz/IMG_9955.jpg)
I will have better pics in the spring. Its hard to photo a boat when your always IN it!
Here are some mods:
I added seats to the stern area. They are removable which leaves the backrests as awesome thigh pads for hardcore striper fishing. I handmade the bench out of mahogany and coated it with Sikken cetol. GREAT STUFF!. It is hinged on the starbord side and flips out of the way (you can see it up in the pic above) to access the motor or the baitwell... or "catch box" as I call it being is sucks for bait buts its great to keep the catch. (NOTE: I did not eliminate that door flap that goes under my bench, I bought the boat without it) I relocated the batteries to the center console, so a winter project is to fiberglass a drop in bin for the port battery box for bait so to have no buckets on the deck at all. The starbord battery compartment is usedfor accessory storage and for wiring. Some of the Gel coat needs attention i know... but alot of what you may see was just rough coats of the stuff to close up the holes. This boat needed ALOTTTTTTT of Gel Coat work and my hands still hurt from sanding. I will make all my gel coat repairs invisible by the spring. Those rodholders are in a great location! Out of the way and very useful.
(http://i457.photobucket.com/albums/qq300/kaptainkoz/IMG_5936a.jpg)
I handmade a Mahogany Dash Topper to the center console. I wanted to add some more class as well as function. I didnt want stuff bouncing all over the place. I also added an off the shelf organizer by screwing it to the original useless cup holders. These are great for holding my cell and a few weights, also the rim is perforated to hold fishing hooks. Its a great unit. I think it by Seachoice? You can also see a little silver bump on the underside of the rail about dead center near the top of the windshield... this is a 4 bulb LED unit used as dash board "Map Light". Also when you hit that switch, compartment lights go on in the 2 levels of the center console storage, and soon to be added, a light in the anchor compartment and the transom battery boxes
This winter I am going to be redoing the instrument panel with STARBOARD. I will keep the old one safe (and maybe for sale for the die hard restorers). I only want a fuel, amp, volt and temp guage, then I want to add a 6 or 8 switch breaker panel, then whatever room is left on the starbord side I want to add a cubby or a glove box. Simple, clean with more storage.
And yes... Santa is going to replace that crappy so called fishfinder with a Lowrance LMS 522!
(http://i457.photobucket.com/albums/qq300/kaptainkoz/IMG_5945a.jpg)
(http://i457.photobucket.com/albums/qq300/kaptainkoz/IMG_6163-1.jpg)
The transom was cracked but the wood was not terrible, so I removed the cap, dried out the wood for a week with a heater and gallons of acetone, then did the GITROT regimine, glassed and Gelcoated it all over, and added a custom cut and welded diamond plate support. Yes i read the posts... after my project. I know most are not fans of GITROT or of transom brackets, but so far so good. If it fails or starts to crack again then I will tear the whole ass off and Coosa it. I just wanted to get in the water. I got the boat in late august and spent 6 weeks before she saw the water. I had to work fast... the stripers were coming! This winter I plan on anodizing the plate a medium blue and finishing up the astetics of the Gel coat (a few more layers to smooth it out). THe last photos shows the repainted motor... as mentioned a work in progress. By the way.. that motor is for sale, all new parts for $1600 on craigslist. Email me for more info if interested. It is mint but wayyyy too big and heavyfor my 200CCP.
(http://i457.photobucket.com/albums/qq300/kaptainkoz/IMG_5952a.jpg)
(http://i457.photobucket.com/albums/qq300/kaptainkoz/IMG_5953.jpg)
(http://i457.photobucket.com/albums/qq300/kaptainkoz/IMG_6159-1.jpg)
I added hatches to the gunnels for some more storage. They are perfect for bumpers being I usually tie the bumpers right there to the rail. I also had cushions made for the coffin. I have the in floor hatch just in front of the coffin (life jacket storage). It was cracked. So when I bought it to replace it (Bomar hatch) I held it against the gunnel and decided to go with 2 more. It worked out great. That little loop of rope you see hanging in the storage comparment was inspired from my cousins sailboat. At the top of that loop is a hook. You take the coiled dock rope and fold the loop over it and set the loop in the hook to hold the rope. I have one on the other side and near both of the rear cleats. Keep the ropes handy and neat and they release really easy. I would not put those rodholders there. They seem to always catch the side of my knee. I would drill in drop in rodholders on the horizontal of the cap in the area near the grab rail. I may do so and eliminate those rodholder... I hate Gelcoat work just to patch holes!
(http://i457.photobucket.com/albums/qq300/kaptainkoz/IMG_6166.jpg)
Now my Piece de resistance... my custom lightbar. Keep in mind this is my very first boat. So with my primary focus for this boat being night Stripped Bass trips, I needed light to find my way. I didnt want to have to hold a spot light to find the buoys. So I had some stainless rails off of a junked boat and got to bending. (sorry about the power lines in the pic!) There are 3 sets of lights... 2-100 watt floods which shine straight out and 2-55watt deck lights, fore and aft, and the perko anchor light. I had a particular problem with the floods in that they also lit up the deck thus killing my night vision. If you look closely you can see custom hammered "eyelids" that I made to keep the light off of the deck. I also added the anchor light to the top and taped the hell out of it for the same reason of dimminishing on deck reflection. All lights are on seperate switches on the dash. I used bimini hardware to make the unit fold down. You pull the pins on the bottom of the legs closest to the helm and the whole assembly folds down aft for easy transport and storage. On the starbord side you will see some wires hanging out. This is on purpose... if I ever feel the need to remove the light bar I will cut the wires and install plug ends.You can also see a bit more of the assembly on the pics above of the dash. Where to put the net became an issue. As you can see on the whole boat pic at the beggining of this post, i used to keep the net in a bow rodholder...which always seemed to be in the way. So, I added the starbord side rail mounted rod holder for the net. Works out perfectly. You dont even know the net is there. Then, some of you may be saying "what the hell is with that port side rod holder?"... true, very true. That is what I call the "captains rodholder". the area where I night fish for stripers requires us to drift through a bridge under current and sometimes wind influence... so I have to approach the opening (about 25ft wide) under idle and correct as needed... all while having a rod in my hands trying to catch one. Sometimes it doesnt work out so well and I have to dart over and try to brace an impact (so far so good).. That rodholder is my quick holster which will allow me to keep my eel in the water while attending to whatever is needed. It is out just far enough so the tip is over the rubrail (dont want it out too far as to catch a bridge support). Most would say "why bother" but i estimate about 90% of the bites happen just as the boat comes even with the first bridge support... crafty little buggers they are.
(http://i457.photobucket.com/albums/qq300/kaptainkoz/IMG_6164-1.jpg)
(http://i457.photobucket.com/albums/qq300/kaptainkoz/IMG_6165-1.jpg)
So thats it for now. The weather here in Long Island NY is downright nasty... snow ice cold... really dismal. I will post pics of the above mentioned projects as they happen... but the wether has to cooperate. Merry Christmas, Happy Chanuukah and a happy new year to all!
August 2009 update: To see the finished project, go to viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3858 (http://www.classicaquasport.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3858)
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Where are the rest of the CCP'S ????????????
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Been wondering that, too - there's definitely more than 7 out there!
The list so far (w/info provided) covers 3 models from 1978-1989:
kaptainkoz 1978 200 CCP ASPP0160M78F
allen456 1979 200 CCP ASPP0226M79A
GoneFission 1980 22-2 CCP ASPA0345M80I
jdupree 1981 200 CCP ASPP0590M81D
Capt. Bob 1984 222 CCP ASPA0492M84E
Hardwater 1986 222 CCP ASPA05951586
DOCREED 1989 250 CCP (none listed)
From the examples so far, the CCPs are wearing the years very well :D . Four of the seven listed were built between 1978 and 1981 - hulls in use for 28-31 years (barely 'teenagers' compared to the earlier flats fishing hulls - but still good) :!: .
Those listed include 2 with transom brackets (DOCREED and Capt. Bob - one OEM and one aftermarket?) and 3 representing color gelcoat options (jdupree - Tahitian Tan; DOCREED and Capt. Bob - Pearl Grey) - none so far in the Nightwatch Blue. Nightwatch Blue and Pearl Grey - along with Ivory Mist - were the color names in use by AS in the 1980 brochure. I didn't find the Tahitian Tan referenced in the brochures on the site (doesn't mean it isn't, I just didn't find it) but I have seen it referenced on other posts here - and I can see why it's grown on you, j. Not sure whether the Aquasport color names remained the same through the CCP production years.
Models to date are the 200, 22-2/222 and 250 - no 246 (or others?) yet.
Current locations generally reflect the company's primary areas of distribution at the time - from the Gulf Cost to the Northeast to the Great Lakes
One quirk in the Hull ID #s. allen456's 1979 200 CCP and jdupree's 1981 200 CCP had Hull IDs that began with the manufacturer code of 'ASPP'. GoneFission's 1980 22-2 CCP, built in the year between, shows a manufacturer code of 'ASPA'.
Alright, time for the rest of you CCP owners to step up :D - let's get this list goin'. Year, actual model name, Hull ID #, a couple/few photos and any historical info on the CCPs in general or your specific hull.
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Ask for a 246 CCP and you shall receive
1982 246 CCP. Purchased third hand in Cape Canaveral FL. Now located in Little Creek VA. Was told by the second owner it was originally operated out of Miami, but I have no means to verify.
Still has original transom, and deck.
I have since reworked just about everything else.
- Replaced all teak with Starboard throughout
- New Gas tank in 06
- Added T Top in 07
- Added leaning post in 08
- New wiring throughout
- New deck drains / overboard discharges and lines in 07 (Major pain to do when already rigged)
- Reworked original console, added better access and repainted in 07
- Repainted fish box in 07
- Enclosed aft live well and added raw water wash down system
- Added rod holders
Next major projects in the works ...
Replace 250 V8 ( Primarily due to weight concerns, secondary due to fuel economy )
Add spray rails (looking at smart rail - Boat is too wet)
Add curtains too T Top to better support winter fishing.
Repaint hull (leaning towards sticking with the original color scheme it kinds of grows on you)
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/289436301241.JPG)
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/28943630183.JPG)
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(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/28943630194.JPG)
Kamikaze
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Momma,
That 246 is a wet dream :wink:
Excellent Aquaporn :thumright:
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1985 200 CCP
ASPP 1116H485
200 Johnson OceanRunner
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/2864Here_she_is_.JPG)
Here's an '85 to insert in your lineup, Hardwater. I've owned this boat for about a year. I've spent my free time with some minor repairs, gas tank being the biggest, and being on the water. So much so that I've forgotten to take pictures of her! The above photo is one I snapped the week I brought it home. I am the second owner of the boat. She has spent her life on the southern New Jersey coast; in the water all summer and not under shelter in the winter. Not much to look at... gelcoat dull, scuffs, scrapes, scratches and in need of bottom paint. Modifications include that anchor pulpit and relocation of the scuppers. Everything else is stock, I think. Would like to bring this back to shipshape like her sisters in this post, I just can't resist using my free time to be out on the water. Know what I mean? 8)
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Well I may as well jump in here too! Our's (my buddy Joe and I) needs LOTS of work. The tank is out, the transom is being repaired, the floor needs fixing and I have to decide which 225 to put on it (Yammy or Johnny). Good thing is the 225 Yammy I bought today came with a Hydraulic steering helm pump and cylinder (already had a cylinder though). Pics are posted in the rebuild thread.
1978 200 CCP, No power at the moment. Has been stripped of cleats, lights, coffin cooler, seats, hawse pipes and other things. Only info I have on the boat is it used to be registered in Mississippi and belonged to the International Sailing Association. Nothing beyond that.
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Best boat ever! I have a 1968 FB 22-2 & am looking for a 222 CCP to add to the fleet. Good luck!
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I just can't resist using my free time to be out on the water. Know what I mean?
Thats what crappy days in the spring and fall are for....projects
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Hello all
New Guy here who just found your site...it is great looking forward to being active on it.
Currently have a 1979 CCP HID#ASPP0306N79C Plate is pretty ate up but I think that is it. Over the 12 or so years I have owned her I had installed a T top when I first bought her which I removed last year, it was getting to be in poor condition and was held up by 2 2.5" pipes coming up through the center console. The boat came with the front storage box which I removed for more fishing room. I replaced the teak Gunnel boards and rear hatches with Starboard. Added a top plate on the center console out of Starboard as well to cover up the T top holes. Replaced the fuel tank after it corroded throuh from the bottom and rebult the tank well cover because it had gotten soft over time. I raised the transom with a Aluminium braket and installed a longer shaft on the 200 Mercury to keep water from slapping on the motor. I do have a soft spot in deck in front of the console that will need attention. I moved the console as far forward as I could for more rear room. The future holds more Starboard on the front storage areas, some console cleanup...maybe a new dash out of Starboard. I would like to install a leaning post and a new T top at some point. I would like to repower, currently running a 1992 200HP carbed Merc with a powerhead replacement in 99. The new powerhead has relatively low hours...It did not hit the water for 2 of those years and saw very little use another(this was due to a health issue and then a bad fuel tank) Currently in the process of relocating to SW florida and had considered getting somthing newer but think i will most likely keep this old gal. I have had this boat as far as 35 mile offshore but don't go much further then the inshore artifcial reefs and back bays now. I bought the boat here in Tuckerton NJ from the orginal owner' son and just found out my Mercury Mech worked at the Marina were he bought it and remembers the boat. I've always loved the way AQUASPORTS looked...they look like a boat should look like. I will try to get some pictures when the weather allows me to take the tarp off.
weakfish
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Welcome Weakfish! Which model CCP is it? Can't wait to see the pics.
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I guess that would be 20CCP. How did I miss that in my post?
weakfish
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Welcome aboard Weakfish. I was just in Tuckerton today at Sheltered Cove Marina. Where in Fl are you headed to? I live just down the Parkway in EHT.
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Trying to get to Pine Island. My friend has his skiff at Sheltered Cove... I was going to be there this afternoon to help pull his duckboats. I live just off 539 out by the Parkway.
weakfish
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I used to fly into EHT for lunch....
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Where in EHT?
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some bar in Sag Harbor---of course I wasnt drinking.
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Egg Harbor Township, NJ?
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Four more CCPs have been added since the first list on 1/18/09 to bring the total to 11.
The 2/3/09 updated list:
(* New additions since last list.)
kaptainkoz - 1978 - 200 CCP - ASPP0160M78F
*bdstr - 1978 - 200 CCP - (none listed)
*weakfish - 1979 - 200 CCP - ASPP0306N79C
allen456 - 1979 - 200 CCP - ASPP0226M79A
GoneFission - 1980 - 22-2 CCP - ASPA0345M80I
jdupree - 1981 - 200 CCP - ASPP0590M81D
*Kamikaze - 1982 - 246 CCP - (none listed)
Capt. Bob - 1984 - 222 CCP - ASPA0492M84E
*Wayne's World - 1985 - 200 CCP - ASPP1116H485
Hardwater - 1986 - 222 CCP - ASPA05951586
DOCREED - 1989 - 250 CCP - (none listed)
The quirk with Hull IDs continues. All of the 200 CCPs have HIDs with a manufacturers code of ASPP through 1985 (Wayne's World) while the earliest 22-2 (Gone Fission) has the ASPA code. A range of eleven model years are covered in the listings above, with a represetative (or 2) from each of the years except '83, '87 and '88.
Model breakout:
200 CCP: 6
22-2/222: 3
246 CCP: 1
250 CCP: 1
(There are definitely more out there - c'mon, post 'em up!)
The hulls listed so far show the earliest CCPs as built in 1978 (kaptainkoz & bdstr - both of them the 200) with the latest built in 1989 (DOCREED's 250). (kaptainkoz's is listed as the earliest pending a HID from bdstr.) If anyone can confirm production before 1978 or after 1989 - let us know. Looking through the brochures available here, no CCPs show up in the 1976 brochure - no surprise. The 1980 brochure lists the 200, 222 and 246. Did all of these models begin production in 1978, or did production start with the 200 with the 222 and 246 hulls phased in over the 1979 and 1980 model years?
The lone 246 CCP (Kamikaze) has a hull ID showing it as a 1984 model. It's interesting that the 1984 brochure shows the 200, 222 and 250 models - no 246. The letter to dealers published along with the 1984 brochure carries a date of November 11, 1984 - likely indicating new models for the 1985 production year. The 1986-1987 brochure shows production of only the 222 and 250 CCPs.
To post, add information on year, model/length, Hull ID number, power and any other related or historical information specific to your boat or the model line in general. If possible, post photos to show the model - as well as photos of modifications. If you can't post a photo right away - edit one or a few in later.
Comments, observations and information about specific boats and CCPs in general are welcome and encouraged, but try to steer other sidebar stuff to new threads, existing threads or PMs in order to keep this one on track.
Thanks to everyone who has taken the time to post information on their CCP to this thread. The point is to collect as much information as possible on the CCPs in a single location for both current and potential owners. Outside of Classic Aquasport, there's very little information anywhere - internet or otherwise - on these great hulls. Keep 'em coming!
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Not quite sure if he is still around, but here is a member with a 1991 222 CCP. Here is the thread:
http://classicaquasport.com/smf/index.php?topic=2735.0
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HIN - the first 3 letters are the manufacturer code - ASP - I think the next letter is for the model - P for 20 foot CCP, and A for 22 foot CCP. The next letters are hull serial numbers, and the final 3 are for year and month produced.
Only the first 3 letters indicate the manufacturer - all are ASP. Under Genmar, Aquasport switched to OUA in 1988, AQA in 1990.
Hope this helps - see ya on the water!
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That goes along way toward explaining it :roll: Thanks, GF :!:
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And just so you know, the 22-2CCP became the 222CCP with the 1981 model year. 1981 also added a new console layout, "an all-new deluxe command console" as the ads said... Before 1981, the instrument layout looked kinda like mine (of course I've added a few things):
(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j7/GoneFission/GoneFissionInstrumentPanel3-06.jpg)
See ya on the water!
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GoneFission, I really like your boat. How much work is it to keep that wood nice looking like yours ? In the summer when I'm not boating my boat sits on trailer under a canopy, in the winter it sits in a shelter. I would really like some wood on my boat, but wouldn't want to maintain that wood every summer
Marc..
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GoneFission, I really like your boat. How much work is it to keep that wood nice looking like yours ? In the summer when I'm not boating my boat sits on trailer under a canopy, in the winter it sits in a shelter. I would really like some wood on my boat, but wouldn't want to maintain that wood every summer
Marc..
I would not be so cavalier as to speak for Capt. John but I myself discovered this product many years ago at the Miami Boat Show and have used it ever since. I'm on my second bottle, got the first in 96.
If you like your teak to look nice and don't like messin' with it constantly, then this is the stuff.http://www.myboatstore.com/teakguard.asp?source=goog&kw=teak+guard&gclid=CNb5q-q1xJgCFRKLxwod3g6G1Q :thumright:
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Teak Guard is good stuff, but is still an oil, and I've decided to go the varnish route. It lasts longer and gives a better look. I use Interlux #96 Schooner Varnish - it has a nice application and good UV protection. Intially I sanded the wood and put on 3 coats of varnish. Maintenance-wise, I just hit the wood with some steel wool each spring and put a new coat of varnish on. Looks better each year! I think jdupree has done something similar with his 200CCP.
I also bought a console cover recently and put that over the console when the boat is not in use - better security for what's in the console, as well as good sun and rain protection.
(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j7/GoneFission/GoneFission-top10-08.jpg)
Hope this helps - see ya on the water!
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Teak Guard is good stuff, but is still an oil,
I also bought a console cover recently and put that over the console when the boat is not in use - better security for what's in the console, as well as good sun and rain protection.
No, I'd have to disagree (respectfully of course Capt.). It's water soluble and claims to contain no oil. It dries to a hard finish (unlike oil) so maybe it's some kind of latex paint. I don't really know but like varnish, it lasts longer when protected from direct sunlight and weather and can be "touched up" also.
It can't match the "look" of varnish (for depth of shine) but still looks good.
I actually prefer the look of oiled teak the best but I'm too lazy (and have "other" things to do) to oil teak every 15 minutes. :roll:
Hell, just replace it with Starboard and your troubles are over. It's just that these old CCPs look really good in their teak trim. :thumright:
Good luck whatever you use.
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Didn't know about the new Teak Guard formula. Sounds like good stuff - maybe a water-based poly or something...
Thanks for the info!
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Will have to agree with Gonefission on the Interlux Schooner. He introduced me to it and as he stated it looks great and is low maintenance. Here is a picture of one of the stern hatches. Picture was taken on a cloudy day so you are unable to see the high gloss it does have.
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/368IMG_0603.JPG)
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I messed with my teak for a while and got tired of it.
I used 3 coats of Sikkins on it about a year ago. Then three coats of the clear hi-gloss Sikkins
Still looks good and its easy to put a new coat on.
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/1501feb804.jpg)
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/1501DSC00177.jpg)
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I used the Sikkens Cetol last year too. I am very impressed with it. Went on well and seems to wear like iron. I am going to do the rest of the teak this season in it.
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I got tired of continually my re-working my teak and put one coat of starboard in it's place and I haven't had one problem with it since!
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/28943630182.JPG)
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Hello all,
One more CCP to add.
Mine is a 1985 222 CCP
HID: ASPA0539L385
She's powered by a 1991 Johnson 225 looper ( which is still in the shop)
I bought her from Cape Coral Fl, but the title says the previous owner was in Key Largo.
She has a T-top and coffin box with cushins.
The hull is nice, seems to be solid, but she needs to have some work done. I haven't been able to get her into the water because of the Johnnie problems.
I hope to wet her butt in the next couple of weeks. So far I owned it for 1 week and my mechanic has had her a month. I'll get some pictures as soon as I see her again.
Smitty 1
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:evil:
Well, I got ticked at my 1991 Johnnie 225 and bought a 2000 200hp johnnie with less then 100 hrs on rebuild. worked a deal with my mechanic to mount the newbie and buy my old motor. Now just got to wait for freight to get it here.
Smitty 1
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Well I guess I missed this thread.
1988 222 CCP
A lot of upgrades since I bought it a couple of three years ago.
(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e307/Badger427/PICT0011.jpg?t=1235860199)
(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e307/Badger427/PICT0021.jpg?t=1235860313)
(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e307/Badger427/5-4-712.jpg?t=1235860688)
(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e307/Badger427/5-4-711.jpg?t=1235860763)
(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e307/Badger427/5-4-73.jpg?t=1235860883)
Now that it's 25' with the bracket I plan on a new Merc 250XS. With the addition of the bracket she will do 47mph (gps) with the 200EFI, with the 250 I will be able to cruise at 40 with a lot lower GPH and should get a much better hole shot though I'm not complaining now :tongue: Really a 225XS would be more than enough. :pirat: Looking forward to fishing this year for reds and specks. She's getting a new fuel tank this year courtesy of RDS Aluminum in florida. They made the original and at current prices for aluminum they quoted me 695.00 for a new unit.
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Well finally got around to digging out the hull# and kaptainkoz has the lead for the oldest 200ccp!
ASPPO 222M78J
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This is the hull # for a 1978 200ccp that sold on ebay. jdupree had it listed in the classifieds.
ASPPO177M78G
Some where between kaptainkoz's and ours. Think we could find a way to get in touch with the new owner?
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1979 22' 222 ccp
powered by an 2000 evinrude ficht 200 hp
cant seem to get pictures to upload on site.
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It's been 2 months since the CCP owners list was updated. Member damnitbadger added his 222 to the collection (thanks db) and 2 new members have come on board - smitty1 with a 222 and zerorulz21 with a 200. Welcome guys! Post some photos when you have a chance. And bdtsr, thanks for adding your HIN info.
4/2/09 update:
(* New additions or new information since last update.)
kaptainkoz 1978 200 CCP ASPP0160M78F
bdstr 1978 200 CCP *ASPP0222M78J
weakfish 1979 200 CCP ASPP0306N79C
allen456 1979 200 CCP ASPP0226M79A
*zerorulz21 1979 200 CCP (none listed)
GoneFission 1980 22-2 CCP ASPA0345M80I
jdupree 1981 200 CCP ASPP0590M81D
Kamikaze 1982 246 CCP (none listed)
Capt. Bob 1984 222 CCP ASPA0492M84E
*smitty 1 1985 222 CCP ASPA0539L385
Wayne's World 1985 200 CCP ASPP1116H485
Hardwater 1986 222 CCP ASPA05951586
*damnitbadger 1988 222 CCP (none listed)
DOCREED 1989 250 CCP (none listed)
Model breakout:
200 CCP: 7
22-2/222: 5
246 CCP: 1
250 CCP: 1
With damnitbadger's addition, along with Capt. Bob's 'Reef or Madness 3', there now are two 222s with full transom brackets in the line up as well as Doc Reed's 250 with the twin 150 Mercs...a good info resource for anyone thinking along the same lines.
jdupree, nice heads-up on the link to riverratjr's 222. If you're around riverrat...post up that bad boy! Any other current or new members, please do the same. Just add information on year, model/length, Hull ID number, power and any other related or historical information specific to your boat or the model line in general. Post photos if you have 'em to show the model features/details - as well as photos of modifications. If you can't post a photo right away - edit them in later.
Comments, observations and information about specific boats and CCPs in general are welcome and encouraged, but try to steer other sidebar stuff to new threads, existing threads or PMs so this one stays on track. Keep 'em coming!
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Good job on this thread Hardwater :thumright: Looks like the 200 CCP is leading the way :cheers: This is ironic considering how rare the 200 CCP is compared to the 222 CCP.
If you get right down to it, these CCP'S are almost identical. The only difference I have seen is the 222 weighs 300lbs more than the 200, the 222 has the cooler on the coffin box where the 200 does not. Other than the extra 2' for the 222, this is basically the same boat.
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Add me to the list 1979 22-2! Will get pictures up shortly!
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As promised:
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q296/bigdeal71/Jasonsboatcrack10-08012.jpg)
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q296/bigdeal71/Jasonsboatcrack10-08013.jpg)
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Pretty much all original 1979 22-2 CCP!!
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Add this one. I have a 1986 250 CCP with full transom. pictures of the boat in the member galleries
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89 250 CCP SER # OUA 23007A989
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I'll be postin' up my 78' when I get back from the keys in 2 weeks! :D
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JoseGaspar - the mother of all pirates
1987 25' CCP
Hull - ASPZ248OJ687
2000 Suzuki 200 2-stroke
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Hell, just replace it with Starboard and your troubles are over. It's just that these old CCPs look really good in their teak trim. :thumright:
Good luck whatever you use.
What is the Starboard product you and others are commenting about. It appears to be a covering for the teak so you no longer have to deal with the maintenance of teak. Is this the case and, if so, where can I learn more about it.
Thanx
Here's a start http://www.deepbluemarine.com/products-view.cfm?CategoryID=6
Goggle "Starboard marine products" and you'll find more than you ever wanted to know.
They (or any classic AQ model) looks, IMHO great when the teak is cleaned and treated.
Aqua didn't use the finest teak the world offered but it always added a nice touch and there's products out there these days that cut way down on maintenance and still look natural.
Check out some of the rebuild forum. There was some pics of a member redoing his and for me, it's a lot nicer looking than Starboard.
If you hate working on teak though, Starboard is the answer.
Arrrrr.
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I would leave the teak. I have just finished using the sikken cetol and it is easy to apply and leaves a great look. I will add some new pics soon showing the progress.
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I used Sikkins on my teak with the clear shiny topcoat. Still looks good over a year later.
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/1501feb804.jpg)
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Been wondering that, too - there's definitely more than 7 out there!
The list so far (w/info provided) covers 3 models from 1978-1989:
kaptainkoz 1978 200 CCP ASPP0160M78F
allen456 1979 200 CCP ASPP0226M79A
GoneFission 1980 22-2 CCP ASPA0345M80I
jdupree 1981 200 CCP ASPP0590M81D
Capt. Bob 1984 222 CCP ASPA0492M84E
Hardwater 1986 222 CCP ASPA05951586
DOCREED 1989 250 CCP OUA 23007A989
From the examples so far, the CCPs are wearing the years very well :D . Four of the seven listed were built between 1978 and 1981 - hulls in use for 28-31 years (barely 'teenagers' compared to the earlier flats fishing hulls - but still good) :!: .
Those listed include 2 with transom brackets (DOCREED and Capt. Bob - one OEM and one aftermarket?) and 3 representing color gelcoat options (jdupree - Tahitian Tan; DOCREED and Capt. Bob - Pearl Grey) - none so far in the Nightwatch Blue. Nightwatch Blue and Pearl Grey - along with Ivory Mist - were the color names in use by AS in the 1980 brochure. I didn't find the Tahitian Tan referenced in the brochures on the site (doesn't mean it isn't, I just didn't find it) but I have seen it referenced on other posts here - and I can see why it's grown on you, j. Not sure whether the Aquasport color names remained the same through the CCP production years.
Models to date are the 200, 22-2/222 and 250 - no 246 (or others?) yet.
Current locations generally reflect the company's primary areas of distribution at the time - from the Gulf Cost to the Northeast to the Great Lakes
One quirk in the Hull ID #s. allen456's 1979 200 CCP and jdupree's 1981 200 CCP had Hull IDs that began with the manufacturer code of 'ASPP'. GoneFission's 1980 22-2 CCP, built in the year between, shows a manufacturer code of 'ASPA'.
Alright, time for the rest of you CCP owners to step up :D - let's get this list goin'. Year, actual model name, Hull ID #, a couple/few photos and any historical info on the CCPs in general or your specific hull.
SER# added
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JoseGaspar
1987 25' CCP
Hull - ASPZ248OJ687
2000 Suzuki 200 2-stroke
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Finally, some pics
(http://i835.photobucket.com/albums/zz278/Papiapet/198725CCP.jpg)
(http://i835.photobucket.com/albums/zz278/Papiapet/198725CCP2.jpg)
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And a couple more.....
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(http://i835.photobucket.com/albums/zz278/Papiapet/198725CCP4.jpg)
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Last one....
(http://i835.photobucket.com/albums/zz278/Papiapet/198725CCP6.jpg)
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Been reading on here awhile and finnally joined. I have a 1988 222 ccp. I'm in Ohio on lake Erie and have no idea where the boat is from but do know who ever had it was very mean to it and I have a lot of work ahead of me. Will do some pictures when I learn how but it is nothing but a bare hull now with lots of glass and body work showing. Its hull # is aspa0821i788. I think it was the last one made on a friday and they ran out of resin as it's got lots of dry lay up. Glad to be here.
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Welcome to the site dgraf! You've got a "diamond in the rough" there - she will be a different boat with some TLC and lots of elbow grease! Post pics when you can and don't hesitate to ask questions. :thumright:
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Attn Hardwater
Great boat and pics
I will be picking up my (new to me) 1989 AQUASPORT 222 CCP.
I'm so excited to get to work on making this boat a daily driver.
Its been sitting for some time. Fortunately I'm schooled in the issues
that this situation causes. I intend to do all the preliminary work
to ensure this vessel is good to go.
Thanks again to all that have posted pics
of there boats esp. Hardwater.
You have inspired me to make this new boat one great boat for yrs to come.
Thanks
Sully_0063
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Nice crop of new CCPs to add to the list since the last update - 222 ccp dgraf, JoseGaspar, Plumbobber, Ideal, billsaquasport, Lynch 156, Sully_0063, hooked up - that'll jump the list by about 50%...thanks for taking the time to post :!:
It'll be a Weekend Update for the list...and if i left anyone out of the 'new' list, please let me know. It'd be appreciated if wattever would take the time to post up his 250 CCP even though it is up for sale - the point is to build an information base on all CCP models and every contribution counts.
Thanks for the nice words, Sully - but seriously, the real credit goes to RickK & The Captain for providing and operating the site, the members that have posted step-by-step incredible rebuilds on a range of Aquasport hulls, those that have spent the time to walk through really useful custom additions/projects and the folks that are around to offer solid advice...and especially the people working to get the photo gallery back up and runnin' :D.
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I guess I missed this thread. It's been a busy year and I have not participated so much (or had time for boats for that matter).
1978 22-2 CCP
HIN AO210M78I (from registration - HIN plate not readable)
225 Oceanrunner
85 gal tank + 32 gal aux. fuel tank under the coffin box.
Sea Star hydraulic steering
I am the second owner. Original owner provide all receipts and paper work from the day he bought it. Always been on the SW FL coast. I have the receipts for every service, repair, FCC radio license (no longer required) and 1993 repower from day one. First owner replaced the fuel tank in 1993. I have the owners manual for the boat and the current motor. It's not restored but I have been working on "refurbishing". I did rewire it, replaced all pumps, lights, switches, hoses, thru-hulls, etc. I modified the dash and rearranged the gauges and switches the way I wanted them including flush mounting the VHF. I have most of the 10 coats of bottom paint off :roll: and so far just replaced what I have removed with epoxy primer. The only bottom paint left is what's between the trailer bunks. The only electronics it had was a huge old Furuno Loran C and a non-working VHF. I replaced the captains chairs with a leaning post and 27 gallon bait well. I took off the coffin box and transom mounted bait wells. I mounted a 92 qt. Igloo marine cooler in front of the console for extra seating and storage and a 162 qt. Igloo marine cooler for a fish box. I added Icom VHF, Garmin gps, Furuno 582L bottom machine with high speed thru-hull transducer, JRC radar, a smaller Apelco Loran C, Bennett trim tabs, fuel flow gauge, water pressure gauge, and a windlass with 500' of anchor rode. Currently I have the fold down upper station and controls removed. The welds on the upper station were cracking and I did not feel it was safe. I had it re-welded once and it just cracked again. I have a new upper station to put back up there someday. On the bucket list is closing the transom, porta-bracket, re-power with something that isn't so thirsty, replacement of the ugly t-top with a tower, replace the halogen spreader lights with LED, and a full paint job. It still runs and fishes just fine, I just have not had the time or disposable funds to finish the project.
Pictures from the consignment lot before I bought it.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v53/Johnny_B/Catch%2022/Catch22007.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v53/Johnny_B/Catch%2022/Catch22008.jpg)
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v53/Johnny_B/Catch%2022/Catch22011.jpg)
Some more recent pictures. I would not dare post a current picture because the inside is green from the neighbors pecan tree and lack of use :(
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v53/Johnny_B/Catch%2022/22-2sideview.jpg)
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Hello Everybody!
Just bought a 1983 25 CCP I believe these were still called 246,s but nice hull on an aluminum trailer needs power and floor work, but still excited. I will try to post some pictures. Here is the info I have so far!
Native Son
1983
246 CCP
Hull # ASPZ219OM83H
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http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz101/ryates67/HPIM3731.jpg
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Eight CCPs have come on board for this update - with two more pending - to give a little better picture of this Aquasport line. There is now at least one CCP model from every production year between 1978 and 1989.
A 'Contents' section has been added at the beginning of this thread that lists the contributions on a page-by-page basis, including what photos - and how many - can be found for easier reference.
7/31/09 update:
(* New additions or new information since last update.)
kaptainkoz 1978 200 CCP ASPP0160M78F
bdstr 1978 200 CCP ASPP0222M78J
*John Jones 1978 22-2 CCP AQ210M781
weakfish 1979 200 CCP ASPP0306N79C
allen456 1979 200 CCP ASPP0226M79A
zerorulz21 1979 200 CCP (none listed)
*IDEAL 1979 22-2 CCP (none listed)
GoneFission 1980 22-2 CCP ASPA0345M80I
jdupree 1981 200 CCP ASPP0590M81D
Kamikaze 1982 246 CCP (none listed)
*Native Son 1983 246 CCP ASPZ2190M83H
Capt. Bob 1984 222 CCP ASPA0492M84E
smitty1 1985 222 CCP ASPA0539L385
Wayne's World 1985 200 CCP ASPP1116H485
*Lynch156 1985 250 CCP (none listed)
Hardwater 1986 222 CCP ASPA05951586
*hooked up 1986 250 CCP (none listed)
*JoseGaspar 1987 250 CCP ASPZ2480J687
*222 ccp dgraf 1988 222 CCP ASPA0821I788
damnitbadger 1988 222 CCP (none listed)
DOCREED 1989 250 CCP * OUA23007A989
*SULLY_0063 1989 222 CCP (none listed)
Model breakout:
200 CCP: 7
22-2/222: 9
246/250 CCP: 6
Pending:
Plumbobber 1978 ? ?
billsaquasport ? 250 CCP ?
If you'd like to contribute, add information on year, model/length, Hull ID number, power and any other related or historical information specific to your boat or the model line in general. If possible, post photos to show the model - as well as photos of modifications. If you can't post a photo right away - edit them in later. Enter as many as you think makes sense showing interior and exterior features (console, interior layout, transom area, power, trailers, when docked to show static trim, up on plane, etc.)
Comments, observations and information about specific boats and CCPs in general are welcome and encouraged, but try to steer other sidebar stuff to new threads, existing threads or PMs in order to keep this one on track.
Thanks to everyone who has taken the time to post information on their CCP to this thread. The point is to collect as much information as possible on the CCPs in a single location for both current and potential owners. I'll say it again...outside of Classic Aquasport, there's very little information anywhere - internet or otherwise - on these great hulls.
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Here is a small video taken on a cell phone last week. We were changing trailers and I was putting around while my boat partner was adjusting the bunks. We've done some work, all new wiring, new rubrail, new GPS and SONAR, removed twin engines and replaced with 2003 225 Optimax and SmartCraft gauges, removed live well from rear of boat, new bilge pumps and hoses, removed bottom paint, removed gas tank-inspected and coal tared. Boat is in shop, checking motor out, it had been sitting for two years while we worked on the boat. Should be back on the water within the week. I have some future projects in mind, but they will come during the off season. It's past time to fish!
HIN: ASPZ2449J586
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Here is a link to a short movie of my 250 CCP running down the river.
http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery ... 500/page/1 (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/4213/sort/1/cat/500/page/1)
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Hello all,
I am new to the site as a contributor/questioner, but I have truly enjoyed reading and learing about these craft. I own a 1985 250 CCP and because of the encouragement to come forth, I have stepped out of the shadows. I am in the proces of refurbishing the boat -- really my first real attempt at resurrecting a boat.
It is a 1985 and the console has a large metal plaque (aluminum?) that says Aquasport CCP250. It has the above deck fishbox but no chairs or leaning post. I bought the boat from a private individual in 2002 in Ft. Pierce Florida. I have had to keep it in storage all of these years as a multitude of things, mostly good, happened and this just got put on the back burner -- until July 24th, 2009; I pulled it out of storage, began to clean it up and started undertaking a great adventure.
In a nutshell, and I invite comments as I really don't have experience doing a project like this, I have pulled the console off, removed the gas tank cover (coffin cover), removed the fish box. The transom was enclosed by the previous owner -- it hasd been deemed done correctly by someone who does knowboats -- I will take their word on it. Aside from the gas tank lid, there are no soft spots anywhere on the decks. I have removed the plywood (soggy and delaminated) and relaced it with marine plywood, and several layers of West System epoxy -- coating the wood with two coats, the fiberglass skin and a layer with Silica mixed in before placing the wood back in the skin, a layer of heavy mat followed by 2 additional layers of West System 209. It is about 80% complete now. The fishbox had multiple war marks all the way into the glass mat -- I can envision a mighty battle between a man and a 75 pound bull dolphin with the gaff through the thick shoulders flopping around on the deck as the fish overpowers the man on the way to the fishbox... hence, likely gaff marks on the fishbox.
Here are my plans -- I want to put a bracket on the transom -- again, I was told the transom was not an issue -- I would like to put twins back there -- I know the hull is rated for 300 horses -- what kind of trouble am I asking for to hang 400 back there? I am not a go-fast boater -- I just happen to have a pair of 200 EFI Merc's with 270 hours on each and an Armstrong bracket. Mid 40's is plenty fast for me so it is not a speed issue -- I like to cruise at 30-32 mph when the water allows that and we fish 40-70 miles offshore -- I have no desire to set a speed record -- but it is hard to convince my gracious and understanding wife that I need two other engines --
I am planning on moving the console forward 15" to get more fishing area and I have begun the job of cutting the front of the console so that the fishbox can set into the console about 5" -- thus the fishbox will move 10"-11" while the console will move 15 or so. I have built a platform that raises the fishbox about 2.5 inches to clear the flange around the base of the console -- remember the fishbox will actually sit back into the console so it needs to be raised. The fishbox will drain with the help of a macerator mounted in the console and dumping into the factory in-deck drain for the fishbox.
I have a custom leaning post that is sturdy, solid, but not flashy. It has a 4 rod rocket launcher on the back side. I am planning on putting the batteries (4 in all) inside the console to keep weight off the stern.
So, what might anyone think? Any ideas or warnings?
I do have several picture pre-work starting -- I will get my gracious wife to help me load them so that all of those words may make sense.
For now, I am pleased to be a part of such an elite group.
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Doug, welcome to the board. Glad to see another 250CCP owner joining the ranks. I would caution about hanging 400 HP on a bracket on the 250CCP. As you mention, the boat is rated for 300 HP and I wouldn't advise exceeding that. Hanging that extra weight off bracket is going to put you pretty low in the water at the stern (I realize it is enclosed which is a good thing) and might put your skuppers below the water line. Moving the console forward would certainly counter this, but for me....I wouldn't do it. I have a single 2000 Suzi 200HP (2-stroke) on my 250CCP. With 2 ppl. and no gear, I run 30 knots @ 5000 rpm. With 8 -10 people and full fishing gear, I run around 26 knots @ 5000 rpm.
While I do wish I had a 250 hanging off the back, the 200 "gets the job done". Perhaps you could trade in your pair of 200s for a newer single 250 or 300.
Just my 2 cents.
JG
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Doug,
I have a 250 CCP with a full transom, bracket and twin 150's. If I can answer any questions you may have or send you pics of my set-up i will be happy to.....
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/15011son.jpg)
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Doug,
I'll second the welcome and add....
I have a full bracket on my 222. It's been in place for 13 years with no ill effects and the transom is just the way it came from the factory 25 years ago. I would feel certain that your boat could easily handle a full bracket as it came from the factory but..
I myself would want to be sure that the transom had all the needed support to handle the extra load, especially where it attaches to the stringers.
That stated, the 200 mercs appear to weigh about the same as the 150s (at least where I looked) so the weight to hp is not a factor. Insurance? That might be a different matter.
I would think the boat would easily run in the area you seek and have some left over for "showin' off".
Good luck and as always, your post is worthless without pics. :D
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Doc,
Did I read the spec on the Mercs correctly? The 150s are about the same as the 200s?
If so, then Doug's got himself a neat project going.
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With the 150's on the factory bracket, the scupper drains are barely above the waterline. the deck drains have balls in them to prevent backflow but the are marginal at best. With several people fishing, there is some water in the cockpit. If you make sure the deck is well sealed you should not have any problem.
You may find it is in your best long term interests to rewire the boat while you have it apart.
It is just amazing how many 6" pieces of wire i found of different guages and colors...butt spliced together to make a two foot run.....
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Hull number addition.
1988 Aquasport CCP 222 Hull ID #ASPA09241788
Doug, cut and paste your questions to your other thread and you will get many more responses. Sometimes we are slow to respond. If you have immediate concerns you can PM most members.
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New here (lurked for past week or so). Been getting my '83 200 CCP ready for the saltwater after quite a few years on fresh and almost two years dry-docked (with custom cover) in Tulsa. Moved to San Antonio recently and dragged it down from Tulsa.
Boat was inherited via parent's divorce after 42yrs. I went through my teenage years fishing Port O'Connor from this boat. I was proud then as a passenger, now proud as owner.
Particulars:
1983 200 CCP (ASPP0959M83H)
1987 Johnson V-6 VRO (Oiler removed, now on Pre-Mix)
Bimini Top that I've hated since day 1.
Boat ran great last time out (July 4, '08). Easter Day, I drained the 10 Gal of old (conditioned) gas, which still smelled good, and replaced with 10 Gals 93 octane super with a can of B-12). Battery had been on charger for a week. Ran 100ft hose to nearest spigot. Hooked hose to new Flush-valve from Bass-Pro. Pumped the fuel. Pushed in the choke, turned the key and after about 10 cranks, it tried to kick off. A few more chokes and turns of the key and I had a purring Johnson with water coming out all water indicators. OK, it was more of a growl since I was out of the water. Anyhow, Woohoo! I was a happy camper!! After it warmed up, it idled great. Tach didn't work and temp gauge stayed cold (I don't think it's working). Need to get the volt-meter out and check things there.
Needs new cushions (all are original and starting to crack). Molded switch bezel is cracked around the screws and some of the switches are a little sticky and all are sun-burnt. New switches arrived today and I'm making the positive part of the mold that will make a new fiberglass bezel. If all goes according to plans, switch bezel and new switches will be installed next weekend and then I'll troubleshoot some wiring issues (bow lights aren't coming on). I'm hoping the new switches will take care of most if I get the wiring hooked up properly.
Hull/Console is in great shape, was always covered and waxed although it needs a cleaning and wax job now. It has most of the original decals, with nicks/cuts of course. Floor needs a bit of protection as it has minor cracking in the original finish. Teak needs re-finishing. All is original!
I'll try to get some pictures attached here in the next few days. I don't have many yet, but will get some more soon.
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Before you cook something get you one of these. You can point it at each head and get a reading. Welcome aboard and now its time for the porn!
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/d ... mber=96451 (http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=96451)
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Great Idea slvring although a trip to Harbor Freight will be the most expensive 29.99 I've ever spent.
Porn you want? All I can do is tease you with her at the moment. The oak blooms were in full force so I tried to keep the cover on last weekend.
Here she is from the front. See how she shines.
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i261/kevdena/1983%20Aquasport%20200%20CCP/photo3.jpg)
Here is her tattoo:
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i261/kevdena/1983%20Aquasport%20200%20CCP/photo1.jpg)
She's such a tease:
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i261/kevdena/1983%20Aquasport%20200%20CCP/photo2.jpg)
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Welcome Fullboat. That hull looks very clean for 27 years...and all in the same family! Obviously a boat that's worth keeping :D . When it's ready, edit in a couple of interior shots. Thanks for adding it to the CCP collection.
With spring here we may have a few more turn up :thumleft:.
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Is there a way to search on here and just get ccp responses? Seems there are so few of us? C mon ccp owners where are your rebuilds (I am guilty too as mine is not on here yet either :roll: ) Anyone out there near me in northern Ohio or Usa :lol:
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There was a thread in one of the forums for CCP owners---once----somewhere. I dont remember where it was, however.
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There was a thread in one of the forums for CCP owners---once----somewhere. I dont remember where it was, however.
Uh, Doc, I think this might be it... Check out the previous 6-7 sections...
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Now thats funny :lol: !!! This is the only thread I have ever found dedicated to us ccp guys. When ever I do a search it brings up everything which is hard to look through for any ccp rebuild info. I would think more people were doing stuff with the ccps as they are just enough newer that you would think there was more of them? Does that make since? I am so far into mine that it is hard to see the light at the end of the tunnel. I know I'll have well over a drum of resin and I lost track of how many yards of nytex....yes its that bad. I really need advice on making new hatch recesses for the new deck and what best, most economic 1/2" composite to use. I love the ccp's but wish I could find more on them, mines an 1988 222.
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but......but the can wasnt empty yet.
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but......but the can wasnt empty yet.
I said the same thing about my beer cup - and I only had one... :drunken:
(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j7/GoneFission/BigCups-1.jpg)
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Just joined this site a few weeks back.
1978 200 CCP
HIN ASP0115M78D
Don't really know that much about this boat except what I have learned from this site. I have had this boat for 10 years now and I'm getting ready to replace the deck. Hopefully with some advice from you guys I will do the job correctly. Here are the pics I took last month when I decided to research the data on replacing the deck. I will be posting newer pics when I get breaks from my job.
http://s1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa4 ... 20Project/ (http://s1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa449/Rick_Soto/Boat%20Project/)
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JD needs to post his new specs for his 222 CCP here.
I now have the 200 CCP!
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Thanks to Capt. Bob and Rick for making this thread "sticky". It is a good thread that got left behind and has some good info on the CCP'S.
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How about 2 CCPs at the Octoberfest Reunion for some boat porn? :bounce: JD's and mine, with JD himself demonstrating the strength of the swim platform. :lol: Power options? One with a Yammie and one with the Merc Alien:
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data//682/2013_Aquasport_Octoberfest_100.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=8347&title=2013-aquasport-octoberfest-100&cat=682)
(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j7/GoneFission/BoatShow2_zpseca10245.jpg) (http://s76.photobucket.com/user/GoneFission/media/BoatShow2_zpseca10245.jpg.html)
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How about 2 CCPs at the Octoberfest Reunion for some boat porn? :bounce: JD's and mine, with JD himself demonstrating the strength of the swim platform. :lol: Power options? One with a Yammie and one with the Merc Alien:
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data//682/2013_Aquasport_Octoberfest_100.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=8347&title=2013-aquasport-octoberfest-100&cat=682)
(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j7/GoneFission/BoatShow2_zpseca10245.jpg) (http://s76.photobucket.com/user/GoneFission/media/BoatShow2_zpseca10245.jpg.html)
Great pics Capt. John :thumleft: I guess my swim platform did pass the test :thumright:
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I have an 81 200ccp, great hull, i have been restoring my paramount 21, but love this boat!!(http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k615/cajunmerc/Aquasport%20200%20CC%20Pro/null_zps1e52b40d.jpg)(http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k615/cajunmerc/Aquasport%20200%20CC%20Pro/IMG_0059.jpg)(http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k615/cajunmerc/Aquasport%20200%20CC%20Pro/null_zps5fc3b16c.jpg)
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I have an 81 200ccp, great hull, i have been restoring my paramount 21, but love this boat!!
2.4 Bridgeport? :shock: How about posting some pics of that mota? Don't see many Bridgeports these days... :thumleft:
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I have an 81 200ccp, great hull, i have been restoring my paramount 21, but love this boat!!
2.4 Bridgeport? :shock: How about posting some pics of that mota? Don't see many Bridgeports these days... :thumleft:
I have 10-12 of them still around, promax, 260/280's, lol i've ran and still run 'em and rebuild 'em, (http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k615/cajunmerc/89%20Shadow%20200%20VT/010_zpsb21c58ab.jpg)(http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k615/cajunmerc/Mercury%20Bridgeports/evangelist005_zps9066cae4.jpg)
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(http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k615/cajunmerc/Mercury%20Bridgeports/005.jpg) EFI version 240 hp (http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k615/cajunmerc/Mercury%20Bridgeports/shadow041_zps5d98ab52.jpg)
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My test mules are an '89 Shadow 200vt tunnel hull bassboat, and a '90 hydrostream virage stage 3, both are balanced, re-enforced transom/knees, blueprinted hulls, (http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k615/cajunmerc/Mercury%20Bridgeports/A413681A-1D43-4920-A5E6-D584EF08A35E-2570-0000066459F51305_zpsa4fe8072.jpg)(http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k615/cajunmerc/89%20Shadow%20200%20VT/null_zps4d5b2402.jpg)the paramount 21, after i blueprinted the bottom on it, i'm building a merc 225x for it(http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k615/cajunmerc/078_zpsceeeba8d.jpg) and i forgot the 21' Talon w/300x(http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k615/cajunmerc/071_zps37198349.jpg)(http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k615/cajunmerc/89%20Shadow%20200%20VT/006_zpsbbd9ea11.jpg)
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Still love my ol 200CCP, ordered a T Top from Stryker, and gonna' paint the deck and above waterline, this spring, i bought the asport in NJ,several years back, she's rock solid,but needs rewired proper and cosmetics,got her and she was already bottom painted, i use it in freshwater only, St..Lawrence river and lakes Ontario and Erie.,
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Cool motors! :salut: I would guess the Bridgeport with carbs and stacks will do some talkin' when she gets wound up!! You could her that one coming! :cheers:
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New member.
Thanks for allowing me to join !!!
Picking up this one in the weekend.
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data//696/SAM_3776.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=9119&title=sam-3776&cat=696)
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data//696/SAM_3781.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=9123&title=sam-3781&cat=696)
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data//696/SAM_3783.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=9124&title=sam-3783&cat=696)
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Cool motors! :salut: I would guess the Bridgeport with carbs and stacks will do some talkin' when she gets wound up!! You could her that one coming! :cheers:
Haha, just at idle, i was asked to shut it down at 3 tournaments last season, and asked to exit the marina via the troller,i took the offshore mid off for fishing, but still run a factory drilled 260 mid w/a few above the waterline exhaust mods, and cooling mods, she defininity spins some heads in that bright red boat,on plane ,rolling down the lake at a modest 7500 rpm cruise. She's been to 93mph, with the lil 2.4, but i usually just run around 6800 rpm , they love to wind out. I'm switching back to an alien 225x this season, just ordered new pistons and kit, my machine guy has the block now.and the heads. Simon has the motorola brain box. Enuff of that,bassboat talk, lol, let's see some more nice CCP's !!
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(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data//500/IMG_0512.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=7294&title=img-0512&cat=500)
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So I picked up this beauty a few weeks ago to go with my 19-6 currently residing in Australia. Its in remarkably good shape considering its age. However this one will be staying at my in-laws in Westport Point MA. We spend July there ever year. Its part of my matrimonial contract with the wife. Hardly a impost. :D
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data//500/IMG_03771.JPG) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=9648&title=img-03771&cat=500)
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data//500/IMG_0374.JPG) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=9647&title=img-0374&cat=500)
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data//500/IMG_0373.JPG) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=9646&title=aquasport-222-ccp&cat=500)
So what I was wondering: I believe it is a 222CCP can anyone confirm? Would there be a HIN or hull serial# somewhere? Its not immediately apparent to me. I'll include some interior shots in another post.
Also the T-Top didn't enjoy heading down the highway and folded in half. Can anyone recommend a fabricator and or repair person in South MA or RI that can either fix or do a new one?
Cheers,
Woodeneye
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Some interior shots of the CCP. Average quality sorry. They are stills from a video. Also can't figure out how to get the images above to not post sideways. Just happens. Bugger.
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data//500/Forward.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=9650&title=forward&cat=500)
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data//500/Console1.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=9649&title=console1&cat=500)
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That is indeed a 222 CCP. Looks to have been painted. Guessing early 80s (83-84 by the console/coffin box).
Look for the HIN on the transom just under the rub rail.
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Nice ride! :thumright:
Quick question...how did a 19-6 end up in Sydney?
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That is indeed a 222 CCP. Looks to have been painted. Guessing early 80s (83-84 by the console/coffin box).
Look for the HIN on the transom just under the rub rail.
Will do Capn' Bob. I don't think it has been painted, unless the gel coat was redone?
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Nice ride! :thumright:
Quick question...how did a 19-6 end up in Sydney?
Weeeelll......A buddy of mine in RI likes trawling boat classifieds and he spotted the 19-6. It looked sweet ( I'm a sucker for Aquasports, Makos, Midlands, Easterns etc) and it had been completely rebuilt from bare shell, rerigged & included a rebuilt motor. I was after a centre console for fishing here in Sydney (boat prices here are STOOPID) and the poor bugger selling it was basically giving it away......so with the Australian $ being so strong it just made economic sense to buy it and ship it here. We put it on a RORO (Roll On Roll Off) out of Baltimore and 4 weeks later it was here. The only issue was the trailer which had to be made street legal for here.
I love it. Does hammer the fillings in my teeth a bit when it gets choppy out front but I tend to pick my days anyways as I like to get out there some distance. Tuna is about to start running here so that should be fun. Have had a epic summer fishing inside Sydney Harbour. Lots of keeper Kingfish. The harbour is in rude health.
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1981 222ccp
Hin no. ASPA0359M81A
2009 Yamaha 150 hpdi
(http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy102/saltfly/044.jpg) (http://s782.photobucket.com/user/saltfly/media/044.jpg.html)
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That is indeed a 222 CCP. Looks to have been painted. Guessing early 80s (83-84 by the console/coffin box).
Look for the HIN on the transom just under the rub rail.
Found it:
Aquasport 222 CCP
Hin# ASPA0351M81A
1985 Johnson 235hp Model# J235TXCOR
So I'm guessing built in 1981? (which would make it the first of the 222 CCP designation?). Picked it up a few weeks back. Its in remarkably good shape for its age. Probably going to put a new T-Top on it though. Would it have had a leaning post originally? It now has 2 chairs.
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data//500/IMG_03772.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=9729&title=img-03772&cat=500)
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Two pedestal helm seats were factory installed.
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Does anyone know where the alternate HIN would be on a 1981 222 CCP? Nothing evident on the transom.
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Does anyone know where the alternate HIN would be on a 1981 222 CCP? Nothing evident on the transom.
You might get lucky looking here but no guarantee.
http://classicaquasport.com/smf/index.php?topic=10543.0
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That is indeed a 222 CCP. Looks to have been painted. Guessing early 80s (83-84 by the console/coffin box).
Look for the HIN on the transom just under the rub rail.
Found it:
Aquasport 222 CCP
Hin# ASPA0351M81A
1985 Johnson 235hp Model# J235TXCOR
So I'm guessing built in 1981? (which would make it the first of the 222 CCP designation?). Picked it up a few weeks back. Its in remarkably good shape for its age. Probably going to put a new T-Top on it though. Would it have had a leaning post originally? It now has 2 chairs.
(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data//500/IMG_03772.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=9729&title=img-03772&cat=500)
Yes your boat is the first year of the 222 vs. 22-2 and the first year of the updated console.
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Hey, just to keep the forum true, Captain Koz's 1978 200 CCP is no longer with us. It has been retired to the great boat yard in the sky. In its place is a 1979 246CCP, ASP20588M79B
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Hey guys, just new to the forum, my background comes from Bertram Yachts worked in models 46' 50' & 60'sport fish, started as a hull laminator and ended up at the PD Product Development, a lot has changed and emerged, new products, new ways of building boats, new technics, etc,etc. Learning every day.
Sold my 302 Scarab, and just got a 1985 Aquasport 222CCP Tournament Master, totally stripped apart, I called it "clean" and my wife said I was nuts, this vessel was built with the intention of tuff to brake down, please don't laugh at the pics, they're only temporary my aqua will be back on the water, faster and stronger than ever.
Plan to raise the transom, new poly-fuel tank, new nida-core floor, will try to rebuff the interior gelcoat but if not will spray with duralac/gelcoat, re-do the center console, T-top, the hull & repower with 250 or 300hp.
If any one has pictures of what the original 222CCP looked like, were hatches go, baitwell, drains, inspection caps, any details and advices are always welcome.
Thanks
Nelson
Bradenton,FL
1985 Aquasport 222CCP
HIN# ASPA0557C585
After trying bunch of times, I give up, can't post pictures
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Welcome aboard Nelson. :salut:
Thanks for starting a separate rebuild thread. I've responded over there so you're off and running. Everything you need to know about CCPs is on this Forum.
Good luck. :thumright:
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Thanks Steven & Bob
Got your instructions and was able to upload pic to my Gallery
BTW. Awesome site
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Well I think I might have the newest 222 CCP so far. Mine is a 1990. The hull ID isQUAA5027F990. It does not have a coffin on the deck, it has a below deck fish box. I had the original 200hp Mercury black max when I bought it. However it was bad 1 cyl had 60psi compression. I put a 1989 Mariner 200hp on it. However I blew it up on the second trip out, due to a fuel tank problem. Now I am in the process of replacing the fuel tank and the engine with a 1999 Johnson Ocean pro 250hp. (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/IMG_0300.JPG) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=11468&title=1990-aquasport-222-ccp&cat=500)
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Hi Adam,
Your boat was up for auction a while back by Carteret Community College, Morehead City, NC.
The boat belonged to a friend of mine who donated it to the school.
You're welcome to PM me if you like.
Thanks.
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Hi Adam,
Your boat is one I passed on because of the bad Merc on the back, glad someone on here has it. You didn't happen to be at Carteret Comm College to see the boat a day when another guy was there looking at it and passed on were you..
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No I was not there that day. That is where I bought it from. I got a steal of a deal on it. Plus I had a good mariner 200hp to put on it.
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Been wondering that, too - there's definitely more than 7 out there!
The list so far (w/info provided) covers 3 models from 1978-1989:
kaptainkoz 1978 200 CCP ASPP0160M78F
allen456 1979 200 CCP ASPP0226M79A
GoneFission 1980 22-2 CCP ASPA0345M80I
jdupree 1981 200 CCP ASPP0590M81D
Capt. Bob 1984 222 CCP ASPA0492M84E
Hardwater 1986 222 CCP ASPA05951586
DOCREED 1989 250 CCP (none listed)
charliemyjak 1981 200 ccp ASSPP0663M81H
From the examples so far, the CCPs are wearing the years very well <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> . Four of the seven listed were built between 1978 and 1981 - hulls in use for 28-31 years (barely 'teenagers' compared to the earlier flats fishing hulls - but still good) <!-- s:!: -->:!:<!-- s:!: --> .
Those listed include 2 with transom brackets (DOCREED and Capt. Bob - one OEM and one aftermarket?) and 3 representing color gelcoat options (jdupree - Tahitian Tan; DOCREED and Capt. Bob - Pearl Grey) - none so far in the Nightwatch Blue. Nightwatch Blue and Pearl Grey - along with Ivory Mist - were the color names in use by AS in the 1980 brochure. I didn't find the Tahitian Tan referenced in the brochures on the site (doesn't mean it isn't, I just didn't find it) but I have seen it referenced on other posts here - and I can see why it's grown on you, j. Not sure whether the Aquasport color names remained the same through the CCP production years.
Models to date are the 200, 22-2/222 and 250 - no 246 (or others?) yet.
Current locations generally reflect the company's primary areas of distribution at the time - from the Gulf Cost to the Northeast to the Great Lakes
One quirk in the Hull ID #s. allen456's 1979 200 CCP and jdupree's 1981 200 CCP had Hull IDs that began with the manufacturer code of 'ASPP'. GoneFission's 1980 22-2 CCP, built in the year between, shows a manufacturer code of 'ASPA'.
Alright, time for the rest of you CCP owners to step up <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> - let's get this list goin'. Year, actual model name, Hull ID #, a couple/few photos and any historical info on the CCPs in general or your specific hull.
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Hey guys,
Can anyone of you, that owns a 246 CCP with a coffin box, be so nice as to give me the coffin dimensions? Length, width and height? Could you also tell me the distance betwee coffin box and gunnels (at front point and back)?
Please, it's only 5 measurements, I am thinking of a design/use change for the coffing box.
Thanks for your help in advance
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Adam - you are right - 1990 was the last year for the CCP name. In 1991, under Genmar, it was just called a Center Console. Then a redesign put a casting platform in the bow and it became the newer Osprey line - the Osprey 210, the oddball Osprey 217, and Osprey 230.
I'm not sure a 217 was ever made - it was an inboard version of the Osprey 210 - I've seen literature on the 217, but have never seen one in person. The old 22-2 and 246 were sold with inboards - with a nice V-8 sitting under the console. Sweet boats, nicely balanced, but not for shallow water. The 217 also had a "console forward" option with 4 seats behind the console instead of the usual 2 - the line drawings/spec sheets show 2 seats facing forward and 2 facing aft. Again, I've never seen a picture of one that was actually made or heard of someone having a 217 inboard - anybody out there ever seen a Genmar-vintage 217 inboard - 1992 or later?
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Hey guys,
Can anyone of you, that owns a 246 CCP with a coffin box, be so nice as to give me the coffin dimensions? Length, width and height? Could you also tell me the distance betwee coffin box and gunnels (at front point and back)?
Please, it's only 5 measurements, I am thinking of a design/use change for the coffing box.
Thanks for your help in advance
Maybe the 246/250 CCP wasn't common with the coffin box? I've been on a 250 CCP but it didn't have a coffin - had a sink up front. Hang in there - someone will see this post and reply.
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Based on what I have seen, I think when the 246CCP became the 250CCP they did away with the coffin and went to the below deck fish box as well as the sink that Rick mentioned. I would guess that this took place in the mid 80's. The 1979 246CCP that I had did have the coffin. I have seen several early 80's 246 CCP's with the coffin.
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Thanks RikK.....
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Hey everyone, new member here and I just stroked a check for my first boat last night after the sea trial! She's a 1982 246 CCP with a 1999 200 Johnson. Got a pretty good deal as the boat belonged to a friend of a friend who is taking delivery of his new cabin cruiser this weekend and needed the AS gone.
Looking forward to getting to know everyone and pick your brains. I've already learned so much just by running through some old threads. Seems like a wealth of knowledge on this forum.
I live in Palmetto, FL just north of Sarasota and will likely be boating in the Tampa Bay to Siesta Key area so if you happen to see me out, flag me down to say hey.
I think this boat is perfect for me as a first boat as it is big enough that I will feel safe in just about any conditions but also nothing too flashy so I won't feel bad about putting some dings in the paint as I learn. It's a pretty basic boat and doesn't seem like there's too much I can seriously mess up but there are a few things I'd like to do to make it my own.
- Remove the tower as it takes up quite a bit of cockpit space (and the upper steering doesn't work anyways)
- Refinish the teak accents
- Replace the bilge pump float switch (old one is broken)
- Detail the boat as there's some chalk-ie-ness in the finish
- Reinforce the fuel tank hatch cover as there is a small soft spot at the helm (only soft spot in the boat thank goodness)
Other than that, I have a few ideas in my head but think I will run the boat for the summer and see what I like and don't like and reevaluate for any projects next winter. If you guys have any suggestions or thoughts please let me hear them! I'm a newbie so I'm open to any and all suggestions, comments and criticism. Thanks!
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OK, here goes.
First, post a pic of the CG capacity plate.
Next, clean and "oil" the teak. You can get crazy or.... if you're lazy like me, buy some Starbrite teak cleaner/brightener and a stiff nylon bristle brush. Follow the directions and you will be amazed at how much better it looks. (remove the teak for the best effect).
Next, use this.
http://myboatstore.com/teak-guard/
I love teak. Members take great time and pride in sanding in the prep and then applying several coats of something like this.
https://www.westmarine.com/buy/sikkens--cetol-marine-wood-finish--P004_128_002_501
It looks beautiful but it's a lot of work.
Teak guard is is easy and it last in South Fla sun. Does not peel and is easily touched up. Just the thing for a lazy bastard who loves the look of teak but hates maintaining it. That's me.
Lastly, measure your fishbox/coffin and post those measurements here.
That's a start.
Good luck. :thumright:
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Nice looking rig! Welcome aboard :a0003:
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So it was too windy this weekend to take the boat out for my first non-sea trial voyage on her but we did get it off the lift from the guy I bought it from and to the local boat ramp to put it on the trailer. After adjusting the bunks once, we were off to drop her at her new home.
As requested, I've attached the CG plate but after all these years, I can't make out a single word on there. I did grab the HID though as I noticed other owners posted those. The number for my CCP is ASPZ2022M82B.
I also measured the coffin box last night. The box is 20.25" tall and 76.25" long. Obviously since it is tapered front to back and top to bottom the measurements are somewhat difficult to describe but here it goes. The front of the box, closest to the bow; the top has a width of 24.75" and the bottom a width of 20.5". The back of the box, up against the console; the top has a width of 33.5" and the bottom a width of 30.25". I've attached a drawing to try to help give a visual.
The projects this weekend included a good overall scrub and hull cleaning. I also removed 90% of the teak in preparation to refinish it. Some trim pieces (trim around anchor locker door, console door, and console storage boxes) will be staying on the boat as I think I would do more harm to them trying to remove than it is worth. I'll just try to refinish them where they are. I got the new bilge pump float switch installed and working as well as replacing the stern light with an all-around white light. I need to do some more research but the next free weekend I have will consist of disconnecting the upper station steering and controls and removing the tower. One thing at a time though!
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Thanks DB. :thumright:
Moving forward with your project, please start a new thread in the CCP rebuilds forum highlighting your progress. Keep the photos coming too. :13:
Good luck. :thumright:
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Hello
Year: 1988
Model: 222 CCP.
Hull ID #: (none listed) :huh02:
Power: 2008 250 mercury verado
Other info: This boat comes from florida ... the hull was completely renovated about 5 years ago, but Now the finish in the rear bunkers are :thumbdown: ... but I want to sail a bit first
I have to buy this bare hull ... no engine, electronics and others ... radio, vhf, gps, bilge pumps, lighting, power cables, etc... are new and pose by me.
Now, it is necessary to mount the vhf antenna and a windlass ... and the motor
This boat, has been modified on the back parts, by one of the old owners .... now it measures 24.6 " ....
Work completed in about 3 months ... if god wants :57:
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I just picked up a 1978 22-2. How do I tell if it is a ccp? And anyone did anything for more storage space?
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The CCP does not have a casting deck in the front area of the boat, so you have high gunwales all the way around (It may have a big storage box just in front of the console also),
http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=2864&title=as-all-models-86-9&cat=574
whereas an Osprey does have a casting deck with storage built in - the gunwales are shorter on the Osprey too
http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=2861&title=as-all-models-86-6&cat=574
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I just picked up a 1978 22-2. How do I tell if it is a ccp? And anyone did anything for more storage space?
If it's a CCP, you've got the 2-section coffin. And there is a stowage area under the deck in front of the coffin - but it may not have a hatch! This was an option on the CCP, but sometimes the owner didn't pay for the option, so they just did not put the hatch in. But the locker underneath was still there...
The area under the center of the deck from the console forward is mostly open. Later CCPs got rid of the coffin and put a fishbox in there. I cut the deck on the outside of the stringers, took the foam out, and put hatches, stowage and rod lockers in there. You can see that project here: http://classicaquasport.com/smf/index.php?topic=5395.msg74275#msg74275
Good luck and see you on the water!
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'89 ccp222 with original225 evinrude. Less than 200 hrs. Sat most of its life as yard art here on long island.hull #OUAA5007K889 I'm 2nd owner.
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Just picked this baby up today. 91 - 250 CCP. Needs some serious TLC. Deck is soft and the tank and stringers will have taken care of. Well, that will be the starting point, I guess.
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Nice - congrats!! As for the deck being soft, it could just be that you are stepping in spaces not supported by the stringers and the floor feels soft or springy. The stringers are massive in that boat, all fiberglass filled with foam. I think I would wait until you dig in to replace the fuel tank, to check out the stringers.
For posting pictures, follow the instructions here http://classicaquasport.com/smf/index.php?topic=12725.0 - don't attach them - you are limited by file size and guessing what size to make the file will usually reduce the pic too much. Uploading them into your "member gallery" is better for viewing and the system takes whatever size you upload and resizes it to the best size.
Spend a few minutes to absorb the instructions. It's really easy. Remember if using a phone to take pics, to hold the phone horizontal with the lens to the left.
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RickK,
Thanks, exactly what you described does feel a bit springy. I'll make sure to take some time to go over the photo instructions. The story I got on the tank above the deck was it was an addition to the main tank. The PO was selling the boat for a relative whose husband had passed away.
Dan
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Interesting.
Is the Coast Guard Capacity plate on it and can it be read? If so, a pic of the plate would be nice.
I'm curious where this hull was assembled. One would guess Bradenton/Sarasota but..... :ScrChin:
Thanks!
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Capt. Bob,
From what I read on previous post here I thought they stopped making the CCP in 1990. J.D. power only list up to the 230 Osprey for 1991. Unfortunately, the capacity plate is worn out as you can see. I did provide the serial number. Not sure if the H in the serial number was the plant location (Hialeah) or not. My old Harley had the plant letters in the serial number. I have the fish box in deck vs the coffin. I prefer the in-deck personally.
(https://classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/955/IMG20230305145414.jpg) (https://classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=23259&title=data&cat=955)
(https://classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/955/IMG20230305145300.jpg) (https://classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=23258&title=data&cat=955)
Dan
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I'm guessing the H0 is the date of manufacture - August 1990 and the 91 being the model year.
The mystery lies as to where. It looks like a Genmar hull.
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Learn something new every time I log in here. Thanks, I didn't know that. I just remember the old bike had the plant location in the serial number. Going to eventually put my 97- 225 Exp up for sale after I get everything cleaned up. Love the Explorer but I go out on my own a lot and the CCP will be easier for me to keep up with. I plan on keeping my 19-6 and CCP to work on. Thanks again
Dan
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https://www.marinetitle.com/resources/hull-number-decoder.htm
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I'm guessing the H0 is the date of manufacture - August 1990 and the 91 being the model year.
Looks like you nailed it CB.
The mystery lies as to where. It looks like a Genmar hull.
CB, was your '91 made in Bradenton? I'm pretty sure my '92 was.
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Mine was made in Bradenton.
I always thought the last year of production in Hialeah was 1989. I chased rumors that in 1990, remaining inventory was cobbled together at another site prior to ending up in the Wellcraft plant. Bonita Springs was one and North Carolina another.
DanB's hull color, striping and silver Aqua decal are correct for the 1991 model line coming out of Bradenton but the console is an old school CCP as is the bow rail. It appears they used an I/O hull and added the bracket, again not unique but rare.
I wish the CG plate had been readable.