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Title: aquasport 170 chartplotter/fishfinder
Post by: Bat21 on October 29, 2019, 05:04:14 PM
going to the new york boat show in January and and was going to purchase a chartplotter/fishfinder for my 170, i use the boat for fishing mostly in long island sound with a max depth of 100'. any recommendations ?  is a 7" screen to big for this boat?
Title: Re: aquasport 170 chartplotter/fishfinder
Post by: RickK on October 29, 2019, 05:29:53 PM
Get the specks on the combo unit you're interested in and cut a cardboard replica of it and set it on the console to see if you'll have any room left. I bought one that was taller than wide and fit it into the corner of the windshield.  Also make sure the unit has built in GPS antenna.  I bought a Garmin GPSMap 547xs (can't believe it's discontinued already  :03: ) - it has a 5" screen and it's plenty big enough for a small boat.
https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/p/119850
Title: Re: aquasport 170 chartplotter/fishfinder
Post by: BradC on October 29, 2019, 07:25:43 PM
Opinion alert- I don't believe it's a function of the size of your boat more than it's a function of your age and eyesight :old01:

I have a 7" SI unit on my kayak as well as  7" and 5" on my 17' Osprey ... it lets me see all the fish I can't catch  :41:

Irrespective of size, get a colour unit. Good luck
Title: Re: aquasport 170 chartplotter/fishfinder
Post by: Bat21 on October 29, 2019, 07:35:33 PM
thankyou for the replies. brad u wouldn't have a picture of the 7" unit mounted on your console, do u???
Title: Re: aquasport 170 chartplotter/fishfinder
Post by: Brendanpd28 on October 29, 2019, 10:48:30 PM
I have the simrad Go7 on my 170 and love it. 7” screen. This is the best pic I have right now. Hope it helps.
Title: Re: aquasport 170 chartplotter/fishfinder
Post by: Bat21 on October 29, 2019, 11:05:19 PM
I really like what u did with the teak. That's the one I have been looking at. I thing it looks good. I was afraid it was too big. Does it have blue tooth and built in radio/fm or is that only available on the higher priced model?
Title: Re: aquasport 170 chartplotter/fishfinder
Post by: Mwar410 on October 30, 2019, 06:34:43 AM
i find myself more and more using the split screen options on the fish finder, bigger is better. It's also nice while running to be able to easily see the charts.
Here's a 9".

(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/IMG_24431.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=18854&title=img-24431&cat=500)

(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/IMG_2415.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=18828&title=img-2415&cat=500)
Title: Re: aquasport 170 chartplotter/fishfinder
Post by: GoneFission on October 30, 2019, 10:26:06 AM
A 7" screen seems like it would be about right on that boat.  But pay attention to resolution and how it looks in daylight.  I've seen some bigger screens that don't have the detail and view-ability of some smaller ones.  Also look a features - do you want side scan/imaging?  I use split-screen a lot on my Humminbird and use the side scan to look for structure around the boat - but it takes a special transducer and you pay for the added features. 

I think you have the right idea in going to a show so you can see a big selection, compare, and make an informed choice!   :01_37:
Title: Re: aquasport 170 chartplotter/fishfinder
Post by: BradC on November 03, 2019, 08:50:00 AM
thankyou for the replies. brad u wouldn't have a picture of the 7" unit mounted on your console, do u???

Boat = 7” is for sonar and 5” is for plotting - more convenient than split screen

Yak = 7” is Side Imaging capable but I generally bounce around the various views quite a bit


(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/image421.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=19438&title=ff&cat=500)

(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/image205.jpeg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=19437&title=ff&cat=500)
Title: Re: aquasport 170 chartplotter/fishfinder
Post by: Bat21 on November 03, 2019, 07:30:20 PM
thanks for the pic, i think the 7" screen is perfect
Title: Re: aquasport 170 chartplotter/fishfinder
Post by: RickK on November 03, 2019, 09:45:10 PM
thankyou for the replies. brad u wouldn't have a picture of the 7" unit mounted on your console, do u???

Boat = 7” is for sonar and 5” is for plotting - more convenient than split screen

Yak = 7” is Side Imaging capable but I generally bounce around the various views quite a bit

(http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/data/500/image421.jpg) (http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=19438&title=ff&cat=500)
Do you notice any deflection of the compass from the electronics being so close?
Title: Re: aquasport 170 chartplotter/fishfinder
Post by: BradC on November 04, 2019, 12:48:05 PM

Do you notice any deflection of the compass from the electronics being so close?
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Haven’t noticed to be honest ... it came with the boat but is really a plan Delta for me ... both FFs have GPS so are primary tools, with phone being Plan Bravo (with Navionics etc), Plan Charlie is my backup handheld VHF with GPS functionality ... if I have to rely on the compass it’ll be because everything else is not working and hence probably not creating any interference .... good point though, thanks Rick  :thumright:

Title: Re: aquasport 170 chartplotter/fishfinder
Post by: CTsalt12 on December 10, 2019, 11:39:55 AM
Very late to the party here.  But I run a Humminbird Helix 7 inch on my 175.  It's a perfect size.  SI/GPS model.  Note-I also fish in long island sound and the stock charts are useless you need to get the Navionics chip which is about $150-200 if I recall.  While I'm happy with the sonar reading, and really happy with the GPS and the controls on the unit, the side imaging really only works well on one side, the other side has a lot of interference from the engine.  I've moved it around a bunch of times with the same results basically.  Other friends with bigger boats have the same issue.  I'm mounted pretty close to the engine bracket.
Title: Re: aquasport 170 chartplotter/fishfinder
Post by: TooLoose on December 10, 2019, 12:07:48 PM
Simrad GO7xse is perfect for my 170
Title: Re: aquasport 170 chartplotter/fishfinder
Post by: Bat21 on December 16, 2019, 10:56:25 PM
Thanks everyone for the help. I'm defiinately going with a 7" screen and went this weekend and was playing with the garmin and the simrad go7. Really liked the garmin because it was much easier for me to navigate. I'm not to savvy with electronics. My son liked the simrad better lol. The simrad seemed to have a lot of things I'm not going to use like autopilot etc...  the boat show is next month so I still have time to research. I'll keep everyone posted

Title: Re: aquasport 170 chartplotter/fishfinder
Post by: TooLoose on December 18, 2019, 12:44:15 PM
Bat21 - I don't think you will be able to utilize functionalities in the Simrad Chartplotter like autopilot unless you have it synced with your motor through the drive units.
Maybe something to think about if that is weighing your decision.
Title: Re: aquasport 170 chartplotter/fishfinder
Post by: Bat21 on December 19, 2019, 05:33:56 PM
Definitely won't be using the autopilot. The go7 has a lot of features that I will not use. I like the simplicity of the garmin as of now. Still researching more before buying.
Title: Re: aquasport 170 chartplotter/fishfinder
Post by: Bat21 on January 28, 2020, 08:05:42 PM
ok went to boat show and got a look at all the boats i cant afford , lol, i did buy the garmin echomap uhd 74sv with the gt54uhd transducer, i should be receiving it late this week, im excited,  had a question.  the boat has only one battery i was wondering what the battery drain is when drifting with the motor off, my son uses the boat and im concerned hes going to kill the battery and be stuck, im going to install new battery and im going to buy the most powerful i can get but still concerned, i really dont want to install two batteries im trying to keep this boat as simple as possible.
Title: Re: aquasport 170 chartplotter/fishfinder
Post by: mshugg on January 29, 2020, 04:17:08 AM
For a depth finder/plotter or VHF there isn’t much draw at all.  Baitwell pump can draw a bit more.  You can look up the amp draw of each unit, and calculate amps per hour and compare to amp hours capacityof Battery.  I doubt you’re cutting into capacity of battery much even with a couple of hours drifting.  This assumes you’re starting with a fully charged good battery with good connections. 

Title: Re: aquasport 170 chartplotter/fishfinder
Post by: GoneFission on February 07, 2020, 11:03:46 AM
For a depth finder/plotter or VHF there isn’t much draw at all.  B
 

Actually a VHF uses quite a bit of power when transmitting - 5 to 10 amps depending on model.  I've seen many cases when someone undersized the wire to the VHF and then wondered why the radio did not transmit well.  Don't run dinky wire to your VHF! 
Title: Re: aquasport 170 chartplotter/fishfinder
Post by: mshugg on February 07, 2020, 11:50:46 AM
For a depth finder/plotter or VHF there isn’t much draw at all.  B
 

Actually a VHF uses quite a bit of power when transmitting - 5 to 10 amps depending on model.  I've seen many cases when someone undersized the wire to the VHF and then wondered why the radio did not transmit well.  Don't run dinky wire to your VHF!

Couldn’t agree more.  Minimum of 14 gauge.  The only thing I use less for is LED lights.  Of course, the question was about drawing down the battery, and most people spend little time transmitting by
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