1966 22-2 Diver Rebuild

[Callyb]

Hey everyone, yet another Flatback rebuild getting started. This one is a 1966 C&S Aquasport 22-2, Serial Number 232.
I picked the boat up earlier this year from just north of Worcester, Mass. She made the 1000 mile trip back home without incident and has treated me well so far in the few months of service she has provided, but definitely needs attention.

I figured she had been rebuilt at some point because the boat is actually in very good shape for her age, but after pouring over the resources in the forum, I have come to the conclusion that she is structurally original. I am very anxious to get the floor up and see what challenges await!

I plan on the "standard" rebuild, full transom, slimmer console, raise the floor 3"-4", Bob's Jackplate (due to budget constraints), and the dive door is staying (it is very functional/useful).

What I know so far:
1. The transom is gone. Like really gone. I can't believe the motor stayed on the boat.
2. The foam is waterlogged.
3. My wife is supportive of the project.
4. I have an ample supply of beer. (combine with #3)

Well, how about some pics? Nothing too exciting so far, but I need to start somewhere. No pics of the motor coming off, but it was uneventful.

Here is the data tag...


Today I derigged the console (what a disaster) and got the console removed. I also removed the gas tanks (still in the original location under the console).






All I can say is this rigging hole can kiss my.... :cyclopsani:


And finally,


It will be cramped, but ya gotta due whatcha gotta due... Once I get the foam out I'll get the axles and springs off of the trailer and give myself some head room.

I'll keep the pictures coming...

[Aswaff400]

CAPITAL!

the foam should pull out easy...
the more rotten the transom the easier it is to dig out

once you get the deck and transom out, i recommend having the inside sandblasted saves alot of time sanding, had mine done for 300 bucks and only took a couple hours vs days sanding

cant wait to see more progress!

[RickK]

I have the opposite going on with my boat, the transom is actually dry and solid after 40 years, just too many holes and I need to widen the scupper placement to accomodate the newer motors.  So it'll be fun to get out.
I'm glued to your rebuild also since I'm down to the stringers now.

[slvrlng]

Here is a link to another 22-2 rebuild in Texas a couple of years ago. Lots of great info on lamination schedules and problems encountered. Check out how he flipped his hull.

I would also build a cradle with casters so you don't get any flex once you start removing things. Plus it will be lower than the trailer while still able to move it around.

http://forums.bateau2.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=14052

[RickK]

Perfect timing Lew - I will have to do the flipping pretty soon.

[Circle Hooked]

Rebuilds are in the air these days, callyb that front loader sure came in handy.

[RickK]

I guess you need two of those though.
BTW, good to see you back Scott, if even for a short time.

[Circle Hooked]

Thanks Rick, I do love these rebuild threads, plan to do my own some day so i try to soak it all in.

I'm always around, may not post as much as I used to but I check in daily, home is home if you know what I mean.

[RickK]

I know what you mean.
I have been in the bilge of my 230 and the stringers are HUGE compared to what I uncovered yesterday in my 170.  I'm not sure I would have the nads to try this in the big boat - even though a few examples of how to do it exist here. A whole different animal from my 170 - if you are going to dive in let me know - I need to learn.
Speaking of diving......never mind. Water temp is 69 per http://isurus.mote.org/weather/newpass/Newpass_Weather.html
Unless you want to add a suit. I have a 3 mil shorty, still in the range. (I don't think you were actually thinking of diving but I could be wrong)

[Circle Hooked]

I have been in the bilge of my 230 and the stringers are HUGE compared to what I uncovered yesterday in my 170. I'm not sure I would have the nads to try this in the big boat

Oh no me neither, I plan on getting a 170 down the road, that's what I was referring to, sorry I miss spoke.

I do like the Diver door on this 22-2 though  

[Capt Matt]

Block the boat as close to the ground as possible, it will save you 1000's of steps
I used styro blocks,  2x4's and wood shims then a level to make sure everything was straight and true
Once the transom and floor are out of the boat she needs to stay true
I'm really enjoying seeing all these flatback rebuilds going on
Good luck
Capt matt

[gran398]

Matt, how much did you raise your floor?

If you had to do it over, would it be less or more....relating to freeboard versus drainage.

Tx

[Callyb]

Aaron, I actually have a portable sandblaster on my tool list! I saw that on a few rebuilds on here and thought it was a pretty cool way to get the inside glass cleaned up. I have spent enough of my life grinding glass, so I'm gonna give that a try. Plus, I always wanted one.

Rick, If you think the stringers in your 230 are big, i'll have to remember post pics of the ones in that 32' Unflite in the background. Those suckers are like two Redwoods in there. I'm glad that won't fit in the garage or I would have to work on it all winter instead of the flatback...

As far as the trailer/cradle goes I will pull the axles and springs after I get the floor up and foam out. The logic in this decision is it will be easier to toss the foam straight into the trailer outside as opposed to having the boat in the garage with the limited space issue I have going on. Once the foam is out I will essentially set the trailer on the floor and shim it level. Casters would not help, as I have a stone driveway, and there isn't enough room in the garage to have an advantage to them being there.

Matt/Scott, You guys both have awesome boats! Scott had just told me he raised his floor 1-1/2". I can't remember how much you raised yours Matt, when you get the chance I would appreciate it.

Thanks guys.

[RickK]

Block the boat as close to the ground as possible, it will save you 1000's of steps
I used styro blocks,  2x4's and wood shims then a level to make sure everything was straight and true
Once the transom and floor are out of the boat she needs to stay true
I'm really enjoying seeing all these flatback rebuilds going on
Good luck
Capt matt

We are getting quite a few new members that own flatties.  

[saltfly]

Cally I don’t know if this would interest you or not. But to get more head space. You may want to do what I did, but for a different reason. I bought those four caster dolly wheels from harbor freight. After getting the boat in the shop. I jacked up the trailer just high enough to remove the tires and rims. Then lowered, the hubs, down onto the dollies. That gave me the ability to move the boat side ways in my shop. It would give you some more head room as well the ability to move the boat and trailer a little if needed. The dollies I bought where cheap and worth getting for my purpose.