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[Tx49]

I would love to have a 351 cleveland mated to a OMC King Cobra outdrive, but I am sure that i will end up with a 350 on a Bravo 3 or a windsor on a Penta.  I don't know about parts availability for the king cobra. I don't know much about the Pentas, but didn't them or volvo invent the I/O drive as we know it back in the 50's?    I hear they are pretty good.

With any of the drives mentioned, can I get rid of the bellows and run thru-hull exhaust. I just love the sound of a through hull gurgling.

I had forgotten about those Penta dual props. What is the thought there? Pros-cons?

[seabob4]

I would stay away from the Cobra and King Cobra drives as parts availability is very difficult.

Yes on the t/hull exhaust, both the SX and DP drives.  We did them all the time at WC/AS.  The smaller Scarabs outfitted with VPs (5.7 in the 23) came standard with an SX drive, DP as an option.  Most Scarab owners opted for t/hull exhaust.  

One thing you might want to consider if you want t/hull is to employ a diverter like Corsa's Captain's Call or Quick and Quiet.  Believe it or not, some people don't like the sound of a tuned V8 singing!  

Sorry, forgot, DPs.  Excellent drives, excellent attributes in regards to handling, both low speed and on plane.  Suffer none of the zinc problems that the Bravo 3 does (do some research on the B3 eating up zincs).  The steering rams are also much beefier than the Merc rams.  We used to drop twin 600HP Volvo/Innovations in the 33 Scarab mated to DPX drives.  Volvo did NOT require external steering and a tie bar, although we used to do the tie bar anyway...

[dburr]

I would love to have a 351 cleveland mated to a OMC King Cobra outdrive, but I am sure that i will end up with a 350 on a Bravo 3 or a windsor on a Penta.  I don't know about parts availability for the king cobra. I don't know much about the Pentas, but didn't them or volvo invent the I/O drive as we know it back in the 50's?    I hear they are pretty good.

With any of the drives mentioned, can I get rid of the bellows and run thru-hull exhaust. I just love the sound of a through hull gurgling.

I had forgotten about those Penta dual props. What is the thought there? Pros-cons?

These guys cover the topic a bit..

http://www.boatered.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=117346

[seabob4]

I might add, I was fortunate enough to go on a water test on one of those Scarab 33 AVSs with the twin Volvo install...93 MPH on the GPS from Manatee Av bridge N into Tampa Bay, and she still had a bit left in her...    

[dburr]

Tx a huge bonus on the Volos is that the raw water pump mounts on on the front of the fly wheel and can be changed when the boat is overboard (as long as it is valved for it)..  30% increased efficiency and higher bollard pull, doesn't sound like that's a bad deal.

Propaganda...

http://www.volvopenta.com/volvopenta/na/en-us/marine_leisure_engines/drives/dps_duoprop/pages/the_benefits_of_duoprop.aspx

[Tx49]

Thanks dburr. That thread was great. Well a B-3 or a penta it is. I actually didn't know the B-3 was a duo prop until now. SeaBob, 90+ on water must feel like being in a fighter jet.

[seabob4]

It's a thrill, that's for certain...

Funny thing is, when the driver makes a hardover at, say, 45, then brings her back up to 70, you think why are we going so slow?

[Tx49]

BOAT PORN BEGINS
Took 5 of us a front end loader and 2 hrs, but we got it loaded and home.

Backing the trailer in


Loading up


Trailers too short. Couldn't get the bow down with all the waterlogged ass hanging off the back. Removed the jack and slid the bow support forward.


Con't. next post

[Tx49]

working on the jack


finally got the stern off the ground


making progress. putting blocking on


it was insane trying to get it off that starboard list


finally got the stern squared away


con't.

[Tx49]

con't.

Beer:30. All tied down


Stopped at the restaurant to get some Iced Tea and check the boat for the ride home. You can read the previous use of the boat barely--"Parasail Shuttle"


bow damage


what's with all the through hulls?
seriously, what are they? first pic starboard stern, second pic near bow starboard.



FINALLY HOME-UP YOURS HOA, ITS BELOW THE FENCE LINE

[Tx49]

cap deck at bulwark cracked on bow


cap appears to be fiberglassed on. wasn't that way from the factory was it?


coffin box. excuse the bunking lumber



inside the outboard well


outboard well


starboard transom and well. I need to figure out what all the holes are for.


stern view


con't.

[Tx49]

I think this was a nav light socket?


Is this a grommet for a stern line. The other side has a hole in this location with a cleat down underneath the cap?


rod holder?

That's all for now

[Tx49]

Kind of feel like I got a tiger by the tail. Finally got it home and am scratching my head and saying now what. Well the first step is to go build a comfortable thinking chair complete with cupholder for tea or other adult beverage. Then just sit and stare and think. Then I'll start cleaning.  Then I'm sure I will get around to string-lining, measuring and building templates to mark where the hull shape is right now.

[seabob4]

Well now you got something to play with!  Once she's cleaned up, then you'll have a better idea of what you're looking at.

All those t/hulls!  Hell, that ain't chit!  What you have is bilge pump discharges up high, most likely drains down low.  I would definitely replace all of them, but don't worry about it yet until you get the boat configured the way you want.  In fact I'd pull them out and chuck them now, just makes it easier when you start to sand the hullsides to get her looking pretty again.  

The larger holes in the interior are generally for access, whether to install a t/hull, fasten a hose, terminate some wiring, that sort of thing.  It looks, from the hole patterns, that they once were covered with square or rectangular fiberglass panels to cover them.

Yes, that is an anchor light base, and those "grommets"?  Those are called Hawes pipes, used to pass the dock lines through and down to the cleats.  Remember, in nautical speak, a line is called a Hawser, hence the name.

Can't say for certain that someone glassed the hull-to-deck joint.  The way that looks in the pic, almost looks like a lot of 5200 was used when the last owner decked her, then smeared the squeeze-out along the joint.

So now the fun starts.  It's pretty evident what has to be replaced or just removed and chit canned.  Then you'll find out the condition of the stringers, the transom, the cockpit sole, the b/heads, all that good stuff.  Good luck!  

[seabob4]

Oh chit, just saw it has the funky a$$ end, with that indentation that makes it damn near impossible to install a set of tabs...which you're most likely gonna need.