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June 26, 2014, 03:06:47 PM
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« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2014, 03:06:47 PM »
good tip! i will be doing the rigging with pvc. deleting the trough all together.

June 26, 2014, 04:35:27 PM
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« Reply #16 on: June 26, 2014, 04:35:27 PM »
Cool deal :thumright: I only ran mine in 2 different pipes as I didn't want the fuel line and electrical stuff in the same one..
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June 26, 2014, 04:50:02 PM
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« Reply #17 on: June 26, 2014, 04:50:02 PM »
lol, thats prob a good idea. hopefully i can get the floor out in the next couple weeks so i can start underneath

June 26, 2014, 11:04:23 PM
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« Reply #18 on: June 26, 2014, 11:04:23 PM »
I would like to share a little trick I learned a while back. Fiberglass does not like to bend around sharp, 90 degree corners. It tends to want to round or pry out of the corners. Im looking at the plywood stiffeners on your hatch doors. How I did mine and how I do any plywood stiffener is to either round the edge with a router or to cut the edges of the plywood on a 45 degree angle. This way it prevents there being any 90 degree corners and provides a gradual incline for the fiberglass to adhere to. It makes for a much stronger bond if there is no gaps or spaces behind in the fiberglass from where it lifts out of the corners. its a bit of a pain in the tail to do but it makes for better finished product.

Although these are 1/4 inch plywood, you can still see how I ran them through a table saw to create an aggressive taper




and when they are glassed they almost disappear into the structure with no gaps or spaces in the fiberglass.




I will be adding 3/4 stiffeners to my hatch covers in the next few days so stay tuned
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June 27, 2014, 01:24:21 PM
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« Reply #19 on: June 27, 2014, 01:24:21 PM »
Yea. I should of done a 45* angle when I cut them. It would of been easier and stronger. I will keep that in mind though!

June 29, 2014, 10:46:19 PM
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« Reply #20 on: June 29, 2014, 10:46:19 PM »
getting ahead of myself here but anyone have some ideas on what to do with the bottom paint? I was thinking of doing white or black bottom paint.. Im not a big fan of either, I would rather have straight gel. However I really dont want to sand it all off.

June 30, 2014, 05:15:05 AM
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« Reply #21 on: June 30, 2014, 05:15:05 AM »
Petit Vivid - lots of colors.
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June 30, 2014, 09:54:26 AM
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« Reply #22 on: June 30, 2014, 09:54:26 AM »
Yea? I will look into that. The boat won't be kept in the water so I'm not too worried about it. Just want to it look better

July 18, 2014, 03:17:26 PM
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« Reply #23 on: July 18, 2014, 03:17:26 PM »
got some work done today. cut out the floor. i was pretty surprised everything was really dry. stringers are in great shape. I havent checked the foam inside them yet. SOOOOO much foam everywhere.. got it all out and cleaned up a bit. Back started to hurt so i will continue next weekend.







any easy ways to get the bedding compound off the stringers? that stuff is like concrete.

July 18, 2014, 04:31:29 PM
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« Reply #24 on: July 18, 2014, 04:31:29 PM »
Air chisel works the best with a flat blade! WEAR EYE PROTECTION!!!! (Ear protection too!)
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July 20, 2014, 01:43:38 PM
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« Reply #25 on: July 20, 2014, 01:43:38 PM »
nice. yea. it was coming up with a chisel and hammer but my forearm can only tale so much haha.

im going to finish removing the bedding compound. and test the foam in the stringers. If the foam is wet i will dig it out and refoam. if not I think im going to go ahead and make sure the stringers are bonded well to the hull, thinking a layer of 1708 or two just to be sure. next will be to address the fuel tank and rigging. I may end up keeping the coffin and redoing it. I thought about just putting the tank on the bottom of the hull but if i ever need to pull it I dont want to have to cut the floor out.

I want to delete the trough, and run PVC for rigging. what the best way to go about that with the cable steering? Im worried that it might bind if I have too sharp of a bend?

July 20, 2014, 03:06:41 PM
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« Reply #26 on: July 20, 2014, 03:06:41 PM »
Your stringer foam is most likely saturated in the bottom third. You're here, might as well cut off the tops and dig it out :thumright:

On the PVC run, go with 30 degree angles wherever possible.

July 20, 2014, 04:18:04 PM
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« Reply #27 on: July 20, 2014, 04:18:04 PM »
i will find out when i drill some holes. i have no problem doing it if i need to. i already bought the foam just in case.

July 23, 2014, 07:05:33 PM
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« Reply #28 on: July 23, 2014, 07:05:33 PM »
have a couple questions.

 seems most people lay the new floor on the 2 inch lip of the old floor then tab it in. thinking about this seems like ALOT of fairing work to get it to blend up the liner. since the wood around my 2 inch lip is in really good shape and is completely dry. what if I screwed a lip under the two inches around the floor made of wood/glass. butted the new floor against the old one around the edges. then filled between the two with glass to fair it in? is there a reason no one has done it this way? seems like it would be much less finishing work.  this is kinda what im talking about. would this work? or is this a bad idea.


July 23, 2014, 08:29:48 PM
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« Reply #29 on: July 23, 2014, 08:29:48 PM »
You can certainly do it that way. Make sure you seal up the old wood and it's edge though or it's just a bandaid that will come back to haunt you or the next owner.
You would want to lay a complete layer of glass across the whole sole including the lip to tie everything together, maybe a couple layers.
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