1994 225 osprey rebuild

[pete]

keep the pics coming thanks!Seabob,any thoughts on this situation?

[seabob4]

Just for everybody's info, pressure testing tanks, regardless of tank material, is 3 PSI for 14 minutes.  Larger volumes require longer times (not greater pressure.).  And, yes, poly tanks "balloon", aluminum tanks will probably do the reverse of "oil canning", in other words, you hear it...

So what drains exactly are we talking about?  The forward storage compartments drained overboard...I wouldn't exactly call them fishboxes...

[pete]

Went out and compared this to my 225,I beleive what he is referring to are the 2 pie plates on either side of the console,in them is a drain pipe  draining that part of the stringer box into the bilge,he may be saying that one if his drains was blocked causing the area to fill with water and rot the deck.I checked both of mine,the starboard one was dry and the port one had a small amount of water,not deep enough to make it in the drain pipe which sticks out into the area about 3",the OPs is flush with the stringer

[seabob4]

Pete,
Are those the pies adjacent to the forward legs of the t/top?

[pete]

very close,you can reach the forward leg bolts,one on port,one starboard

[flfisher]

Hey guys sorry for the long delay regarding updates . I have been busy with my little ones b irthday and work . Not too mention trying to find a motor for our aquasport which has been truely a pain in the ass lol. Its amazing how many con artist there are out there. Well back to the update, so at 330 this morning alan and i jumped in the truck and headed down 75 towards hurrican irene (pampano beach) got a smoking deal on a new 250 f yamaha. This saturday we are setting up the braces for the floor and i will post more about that after the day is done. When we get back this afternoon i will post pics of the 250 stay tuned.

[seabob4]

Hey guys sorry for the long delay regarding updates . I have been busy with my little ones b irthday and work . Not too mention trying to find a motor for our aquasport which has been truely a pain in the ass lol. Its amazing how many con artist there are out there. Well back to the update, so at 330 this morning alan and i jumped in the truck and headed down 75 towards hurrican irene (pampano beach) got a smoking deal on a new 250 f yamaha. This saturday we are setting up the braces for the floor and i will post more about that after the day is done. When we get back this afternoon i will post pics of the 250 stay tuned.

Did the motor come with the rigging?  I just did a re-rig from OMC to Yam on a customers boat.  250 OX66.  Any questions, feel free...

[flfisher]

Ok..... After a long ride from tampa to miami for what we thought was a great deal on a four stroke we came home empty handed .... The motor was not what was advertised and explained to us over the phone . One of the cylinders was low on compression and had some damage in the skeg telling me that he had hit something . For me 2008 was a new model but not something i was willing to take a chance on with compression showing 200 ,200, 185,170,200,135. Not too mention test driving the motor while the first bands of irene were coming a
shore, then driving home empty handed four hours one way. Needless to say very frustrating . My next question to you guys . Im thinking of switching to twin carberated  150 yamahas instead of four stroke , what would the fuel consumption be ? Would it be better with the 4 or 2 stroke? Also i notice the 225 aquasport has some room on the back but is it enough room to mount twins? The other thing i noticed is we took off a 25 inch shaft motor but it was jacked up on the last mounting screw hole leading me to believe that it can handle a 20 if so that opens the door for me to fiind fresh water motors which is a huge plus as far as wear. Maybe be someone can shed some light on this subject because if they fit on thatb european transome correctly with 20 inch shafts and i can get 2mpg for both motors i think i would be much happier i just cant see paying theprice of the fourb stroke or injection type motor and have to pay some serious cas if something goes wrong ....... 600 per injector if it goes bad or 600 a year in maintenance on a four stroke. Right knoe i dont know just frustrated with all the scam artist.

[fitz73222]

You pretty much are going to be dealing with fuel injection for a four stroke or DFI two stroke if you want anything relatively new. It's simply about emissions and running quality. Lots of debate over which way to go. Power to weight ratio is better on a DFI 2 stroke but as time goes on the gap is narrowing. I recently watched a video on valve adjustment on a V6 Yamaha and was astounded at the complexity and cost of the procedure, try something like $2000!. I've got a 4 stroke Mercury 25 Bigfoot 2003 on the rack that I picked up as left for dead and started looking up parts just for sh!ts and giggles. A cylinder head assembly for a 2 cylinder 25 is $1395!!!! retail. The point is, the OEM's have a strangle hold on newer outboard parts and want to drive you towards buying a new unit buy pricing the repair and parts costs into the stratosphere for older units. Granted the transferable warranties are better than ever; but are they covering E10 claims failures, which in reality is 80% of the issue? I'm still running carburated 2 stroke Merc's; 4 of them ranging from 1995-2000 models, between 400 and 700 hours, basic ignition, standard outboards without issue because I'm anal retentive about fuel quality and I'm running stabilized,water separated, managed E10. As long as I can get seals, gaskets, carb kits, etc, etc with good after market support I'll keep running them. My advice is find a clean 2 stroke, low hours, freshwater if possible between 2000-2005 that you can buy at a reasonable price and repair it at a reasonable cost. These engines have an excellent aftermarket support now.

[flfisher]

I spoke to yamaha today and they told me that I cannot use a 20 inch shaft because the motors will sit higher and since I will be using counter rotating I will need the 25 inch shaft. so on with the mission of finding twin 150's . I found one set of 93 150's but one of the steering arms is busted he wanted 4k but I explain to him because I have to fix the steering arm I only feel comfortable paying 3k. so we will see what happens it does however include rigging but nada guides suggested retail is 1250 if they are not damaged. he seems to think they are worth more.... all I can do is tell him what I think they are worth and if he takes it then cool but if not oh well Im not going to rush it! too many bad motors out there to get myself in a rush. I did however get my digital switching system in the mail and also spoke to seaspension who will be doing my leaning post.... if you guys have never heard of them ,they make a pedestal that has a shock system that is intergrated into the pedestal so during rough seas the pedestal acts like car shocks! really cool stuff they are really known in the military for some big stuff they do for the navy .Once I get it I will post pics , I also have some pics that i need to get from Alan that has alot of the work we have done from my last post.

[seabob4]

FF,
The 225 was a great boat with twin 150s, but, keep in mind, you'll need a splashwell mount steering cylinder (http://www.teleflexmarine.com/products/ ... ar_splash/), as the front mounts ran out of room at port hardover...

[pete]

thanks for the updates,can't wait to see the pics!finding good used out boards can be a challenge.ever thought of taking that $3000 as a down pmt on new?its nice to have a warranty,good luck!

[Circle Hooked]

thanks for the updates,can't wait to see the pics!finding good used out boards can be a challenge.ever thought of taking that $3000 as a down pmt on new?its nice to have a warranty,good luck!

Pete has a good point and there should be plenty new left overs to be had.

I don't blame you wanting twins,i would like that on mine someday,maybe when gas prices go down  

Oh hay look at my sig pic i do have twins  

[flfisher]

the Problem with getting into a new motor is I would have to do payments. not something I want to do im not big on paying the interest and also having the someone come out and inspect the boat for insurance which is another expense I really dont want to mess with at this point just to put a motor on the back of it. After all said and done I would be into the rig around 400 a month with insurance when I only paid 1600 for the boat motor and tailer even at nada blue book value which shows 7500 in great shape in less then 2 years I would have paid out 2 as much as the boat is worth. I just need to take my time and find the right engine or engines. I still have some work to do but thanks for the input keep it coming.

[81walkaround]

wow, great thread/work!!

i wish i had the courage/time/$$ to rip the whole deck off and replace it.. maybe in the future..