My 1974 AS 22-2 Refurbish Job is a GO!!

[GoneFission]

I'm not sure your boat is a deep-V; probably a semi-V (Osprey?), with a 12 degree deadrise, not a deep-V with a 20 degree deadrise.  Does it have a20 or 25 inch transom?

The semi-V is about the same as a flatback, but handles water a little better and takes 1-2 inches more water.  Anyway, the 22 footer with a 25" transom was rated for 230HP max.  So a 250 on an Osprey would be above the USCG rating - which could be an insurance problem.  Other than that, a 250 could work - assuming the weight is reasonable.  The original idea with a 230HP outboard was about 500 lbs.  - But - and here is one of the key design concepts - was that the 22 footers were also designed for twins - that is about 350 lbs. per engine - so a big 4 cycle should work (assuming normal weight loading and no waterlogged foam).  

If I was repowering my 22-2CCP, I would seriously consider a 250HP replacement, but would move the batteries up under the console to offset the rear weight compared to my current 200HP Merc 2-cycle.  

Whatever floats your boat!

[g-man]

I've been running twin 115 hp Mercs on my '73 22-2 since 1995 and love the combo. I foamed in the transom baitwells to handle the extra weight.

[Mike Answeeney]

Hey Undertow2,

I happend to stop by Bayside Marine today to purchase my Porta Bracket and got to see your boat there.  Will and I talked for a long time, he's a really nice guy.

My '73 22-2 with a Porta Bracket will be powered by a 175. I didn't want to go bigger because of gas mileage. I didn't want to go below a 150 because of power.  I don't have any first hand knowledge yet, but from what I've heard 150 -175 is the sweet spot for power vs GPH.  The more power I have, the more I'll be tempted to use it and the more $ it will cost me to run it......   :twisted:

I look forward to meeting ya Saturday.

-Mike

[ddd222]

don't scratch the 250 just yet. I had a 250 stroke on my 222ccp, and loved it. But as others said, heavier, deeper V than the osprey, needing more hp. I belive that its more than the boat is rated for, but that price is almost too good to pass up!!
    I believe in maximum hp, less rpm's to cruise and plane should translate into long engine life, working hard on underpowered boats is a recipe for inevitable catasrophic engine failure, sooner than later.
    It also maybe true the boat acts squirrly at high speeds, but possibly something trim tabs can correct. Or not running the boat and the 250hp at those speeds, and just enjoy the effortless planing and cruising.
    Weight is DEFINATELY gonna be an obstacle. I saw a redone 22 mako today with a yamaha 250 4 stroke. Closer comparison to a ccp model, but still 100-150lbs heavier than 200hp 2 stroke the 22'mako was designed for. A 250 4 stroke on your boat maybe as much as 175-200 lbs heavier than what your boat was intended to hold. At a glance the only obvious to me modification the owner did was fill in or close the original scuppers, raise them what looked like and inch-inch and a half, and went from small circular holes to 3-4 inch rectangular scuppers w/ rubber flaps. I spent 5-10 minutes admiring this boat, and it sat at the dock very even like the yami 4 banger was made for the boat. Other things u could do would be to move as much weight forward as possible, batteries to console etc. I've even heard of people moving the console the console forward.
     The 1st thing i would do before seriously considering would be to look up exact weights of current power and the 250, put a person of equal weight to the difference and see the difference, then move some serious weight forward and see if u can get an acceptable "boat at rest". Guarranteed scupper modifications needed, as well as any other drains or thru hulls designed to be above the waterline, but maybe possible, keep us posted

[John Jones]

I believe in maximum hp

I agree.

I've even heard of people moving the console the console forward.

That makes the ride feel harder.  Appreciably.

[Undertow2]

2007 DF175 SUZUKI 4S.  THE 250HP SUZI WAS A GREAT DEAL @ 9K, BUT ITS JUST TOO MUCH WEIGHT AND POWER.  I THINK I COULD HAVE PULLED IT OFF, BUT, NOT NEEDED.

AFTER RIDING ON CAPT RICK'S 222 WITH THE 175 I KNEW THAT WAS THE ONE TO HAVE.

GOT A GREAT DEAL WITH HELP FROM LILRICHARD, RICK THANKS AGAIN, BRO.

OH YEAH, GOT THE 'GIMME 6' WARRANTY TOO.  NOW BOTH MY YAMMY ON MY RANGER AND MY 175 ON THE 222 WILL BE WARRANTIED UNTIL 2013.

GOING SEE MY 222 THIS THURSDAY, MAJOR ADVANCEMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE AND WE'RE PREPPING FOR GELCOAT AND PAINT.  SHOULD BE ON THE WATER MID-DECEMBER.  YIPPEE CAYAY MOTHER F-ER!!!!

PICS TO FOLLOW THURSDAY NITE!!!

[71flatback]

good deal, should be a sweet ride

[Capt. Bob]

 YIPPEE CAYAY MOTHER F-ER!!!!

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