1968 22-2 FB rebuild

[Aswaff400]

Aaron,
You can always bring her to my place if you want.  Hell, my neighbor Fred behind us always wants to know, "Whatcha doin' now?"  He's an old crabber from Miami.  First time he saw a Vrod, he says, "WTF IS THAT!!!"

one of my parents good friends owns about 2.5 acres in pinellas park, off 62nd street. has a 5000 sq ft barn 3 bay doors on one side, 2 on the other, full paint booth, 400 cfm compressor, said im more than welcome to use it any time i have a project... the plus side its right down the street from my dads friend who will be helping me with the glass...

[Danew20]

Know right about where that is.. On a plus side pro marine warehouse is across the street as well!

[RickK]

Rick,

The strip of 3/4" ply is glassed into the keel indention in the mold. They layup is as follows:
1) Gelcoat entire hull mold
2) Skin coat entire hull mold in chop strand mat
3) 24 oz roving and putty in 1" keel running down boat
4) Level off putty with bottom of hull
5) 24 oz roving
6) Chop strand mat
7) 24 oz roving

That is the basic laminate schedule of these old flatbacks. It is much easier to fill the keel w/ wood and putty and level off with the bottom of the hull, as the subsequent laminates are simply laid atop a flat surface. If they glassed all of the lams into the keel recess, it would take substantially more time to roll out the material in the hard narrow corners. Filling with wood and putty saved them hours of labor.

Wow, so it was a filler.  As you see in Aaron's boat the wood is pretty high, that's why I thought they used it for support of other items like the fuel tank.

[Group W Bench]

Rick,

No, Aaron has not yet gotten to the 3/4 inch plywood to which I am referring. He just removed the center foam filled stringer. You have to cut the hull laminates down the centerline of the boat to extract the plywood that we were discussing.

[RickK]

Oh, I see.  So after you remove the wood you fill the gap back in with...putty?  Chop? mat?  All of the above?

[Group W Bench]

We lay 3/4 mat, 2 x 1708 and then bed Nidacore strips from the scrap pile in Arjay bonding putty and smooth out with a squeegee. Subsequent lams go over top when glassing bottom of boat.

[RickK]

Got it, thanks.  Probably will have to deal with that on my rebuild too.

[Callyb]

Aaron,

Are your stringers are one continuous liner? I don't have all of my foam out yet, but all of the pics I have seen appear to be individual stringers. This does not seem to be the case in mine.

Anyway, thanks for letting me know what you kind of setup you have.

Talk to you later.

[Aswaff400]

my stringers where all one continuous liner, i cut the outer stringers and the middle out and ground out quite a bit of the old liner... will be adding extra glass inside and out of the stringers...

started building a nice mold for the transom cap...

[LilRichard]

Good to see you building a FlatBack!  Looks like you're making good progress, and GWB is giving you very sound feedback.  

I made the mistake of not taking the wood out of the keel when I did the inside... and had to do it from the outside while the boat was upside down.  I also extended my keel a few feet aft to aid in the tracking of the boat... you may wish to do the same.  That has to be done form the outside of course.

[Aswaff400]

heres what ive been up to last couple days...

made my template for the transom, and the trolling motor mount






started mockup for a transom cap mold


took took down 2 sections of fence and made a double gate to get the boat in the back yard and up on blocks. she's supported at 9 points around the hull, she's about as square as i can get her...




started glassing the mold, formica glued to plywood. 1 layer 1.5oz mat, 1 to 2 layers 24 oz stitch mat, one layer of 1708.






cut the flange off the livewell, ground down spots for a perfect fit, glassed to the cap with 1708


test fit(sorry for the crappy  pics)

[wingtime]

Wow!  Looks great Aaron!  The transom cap is going to look nice.  What are your plans for access and storage back there?  It's hard to tell in the pics but how mush space is there for access to the inside of the transom for bracket mount bolts and such?

[gran398]

Looks great!! Like how the livewell is part of the transom cap....slick!

Just compared your stringer system to Cally's '66. Exactly the same, dropped in as one piece and glued?/glassed to the hull skin.

These boats were WAY ahead of their time.

[Aswaff400]

thanks yall, it only took me a day and a half to make the cap, and i can say "I MADE IT" lol

right now there is about 6 inches from the back lower edge of the livewell to the transom skin so about 4 inches once the transom core is installed. i will move it closer to the transom once i know where the lower bracket bolts will go

[Capt Matt]

your lower bracket bolts will probably be below the deck, I know mine are
Looking good
Capt Matt