washdown/livewell setups?

[Sal LI,NY]

Well this is my first thread here on classic aquasport.  I bought a 1976 170 aquasport cc last september.  Picked it up for 2700 with a good trailer and good engine.  It's got a 85' 115hp inline 6 mariner.  As far as I know everything is original besides the engine and the new controls I put on.  I want to start with a few upgrades this spring.  Here they are listed.

-Install salt water wash down/livewell pump and use one of the forward storage compartments as the livewell.
-Figure out whats wrong with the in floor gas tank and why the previous owner wasnt using it and replace or repair.
-Construct some sort of splash guards on the transom to prevent taking on water from other boats wake.
-Would also like to rewire everything to a new switchboard/circuit breaker panel.  (not very good with wiring)


 I want to know what other people are running on their boats and how they like them as far as livewell/washdown pumps and where they mounted them/routed plumbing.   And if you have any other insite on the other things I plan on doing please share, this is my first boat I am going to invest a little bit of money in and I want to do it right the first time.

[RickK]

Welcome aboard Sal  :!:  :!:
My 170 is still the way I bought it 22 yrs ago so I can't comment on most of your questions.
You can install a bilge pump in the trough at the rear to help evacuate the water that comes over the aft.

[Capt. Bob]

Welcome aboard Sal.

As far as the fuel tank goes, it 's probably safe to assume that it is corroded to the point of leakage and will need replacing. A common ailment with many older Aquas.

Live well/wash down is handled by some with separate pumps. I chose to try one pump (Shurflo Baitmaster) to handle both. Haven't had a chance to try it out yet so I have no idea if it will work as either/or, much less as both. I'll find out this spring (I hope).



Good luck.

[arnaldo]

Hi Sal - and welcome. I too just purchased a 1979 170 two months ago and the previous owner ( who is a member on the site " marcq" ) installed a livewell on my boat. I'm interested too in installing a washdown system so any info you get would be greatly appreciated if you pass it along. If you want to see a picture of the livewell setup on my boat, send me your email and i'll send you pics. I dont know how the other members post pics right underneath their post but i cant seem to do it.
All the best - Arnaldo

[Capt. Bob]

I don't know how the other members post pics right underneath their post but i cant seem to do it.

Try this first.
viewtopic.php?p=23289#p23289

Then read this.

1: Go to your Bucket account (you need one to post photos on this forum), open and double click on a photo you have downloaded to the site.

2. Place cursor on the top left of photo, tool bar will appear, place cursor on EDIT then click on RESIZE

3. In a few moments a new window will open (call it the re-size window) with your photo and a tool bar above it.
Note the photo size in the tool bar.Since this site (Classic Aquasport) only limits posted photos to 800 pix wide X 600 pix long you must re-size it in order to post it. So.....

4. Photo Bucket has preset sizes you can use. They are in a 4:3 ratio and you will notice them in the toolbar just below the width measurement (1022px in this case). Also notice that you can manually enter the pixel size for both width and height. Also note that there are two selections you can make when manually selecting the number of pixels. Unless you're a photo genius
make sure you have the "proportion" button highlighted (little red dot to the left). This keeps your photo in the standard 4:3 ratio mentioned above. Why is this important? Under normal conditions, you hold the camera in the standard position and your photo is taken in the 4:3 ratio. Tilting the camera on end alters the width to height ratio. By leaving the proportion button highlighted, you can enter 600 px in the height box and the width will automatically change for a proper photo size.

5. This is where most members screw up. :o After you set the proper size you must do two (2) additional steps. First, click on the APPLY button on the right side of the tool box. Nothing much will seem to happen. Now scroll down and click on the
Replace Original button. It's located underneath and to the right of your photo. If you do not complete this step, you will never place the proper size photo on the Aqua site. This is the thing most members do not do.

6.After clicking on the Replace Original button, the screen will take a few moments to do its thing and a new window will magically appear. Scroll down and look to the right and you will notice several options for "sharing your photo". Click on the bottom one and notice how a little yellow box appears to the left saying "copied".

That's it, you're done.
Go back to your post and place your re-sized photo into the post where you want it by pushing "Ctrl + V" (at the same time) and it will appear as code. By previewing your post before submitting, you can check that you did everything correctly.

Read and follow the first link carefully so you fully understand (if you don't already) how Photo Bucket functions.
Read the second tirade so you understand why even though you understand PB procedure, you still can't post photos.

And as everyone knows,


Good luck.

[MarshMarlowe196]

Some members here (myself included) have the stern-mount livewells.  These wells work .. well, and it's nice to have them outside the boat because they do not take up any space in the cockpit / space in a storage box.  IMHO- a forward livewell doesn't work well- too much turbulance for baitfish and the forward weight tends to throw off the ride quality, especially if they are on one side only.

If you decide to go this route, you can either make some wells, or find some here (like I did).

As far as a bilge/washdown pump- I cut a hole in the floor near the transom and installed one in the bilge.  I feel this is the best way to go for peace of mind, and serviceability.

The only way to diagnose/replace your tank is to pull it out.  It's not so bad, especially compared to other boats w/o a tank hatch.  Good Luck!

[MarshMarlowe196]

LIVEWELLS!


viewtopic.php?f=6&t=6459

[Sal LI,NY]

LIVEWELLS!


http://www.classicaquasport.com/phpbb3/ ... f=6&t=6459

Those are cool, how do they mount on?  Do you have any pics of yours?  Ive been trying to respond back to you guys but for some reason I kept deleting my post before it ever made it on here.  Plus Im used to other forums where you can multi quote in one post.  

Well Id like to see which washdown/livewell pumps you guys are using and your results.  If you know of a good kit that will give me decent pressure for the washdown part.  I've also been thinking about turning the cooler seat into the live well, has anyone done that?  

Anyone have a link to a website or company that has gas tanks for the 170?  What is best to use, aluminum or plastic?

I do have a bilge pump in the rear trough to get rid of wake over the stearn but I think Id still like to get something to avoid it.  The areas I fish in can get very rough especially in the inlets, I have nightmares of getting swamped in the back of my head while Im out there.  I did see one 170 that had to splashguards mounted on the transom, not really sure what they might have been made from though.  Maybe plastic or wood with fiberglass?

[Circle Hooked]

Welcome Sal,is shouldn't be to hard to make a splash guard using starboard,that's probably what the ones you saw were made from.

[Sal LI,NY]

Welcome Sal,is shouldn't be to hard to make a splash guard using starboard,that's probably what the ones you saw were made from.

Thank you, I have been trying to remember the name of that stuff!!!

[Capt. Bob]

Anyone have a link to a website or company that has gas tanks for the 170?  What is best to use, aluminum or plastic?

viewtopic.php?p=19876#p19876

viewtopic.php?p=40124#p40124

viewtopic.php?p=44134#p44134

These links reside in the Resource forum. It's a good place to start when you are looking for something.

[MarshMarlowe196]

Those are cool, how do they mount on?  Do you have any pics of yours?

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=4655&p=29463&hilit=stern#p29463

[seabob4]

I have never been a fan of using one pump to serve both livewell and washdown purposes.  This is an 1100 Bait Sentry dual-port, the 3/4" hose feeding the Flo-Jet washdown pump...


Had to get creative with this install, on Dr. Mike's 19-6...


Not much room to work with, had to make sure the shut-off valve handle would not only be functional, but the valve and all the fittings be tight.  Used a 5" nipple off the valve as the pump didn't have clearance coming directly off the valve, then mount her on the horizontal...Doc says it works great, so I'm happy...

[gran398]

Now THAT's sweet.

Guys, have installed enough clams/thru-hulls/seacocks to know. The carpenters say measure twice, cut once. On this you measure four times, cut once. And as SB says, think it through, will the handle work, can the pump mount sideways or below (to facilitate priming) a lot to take into consideration.

You want to do this job with a good night's sleep under your belt and a clear head. When that 3/4 hole saw bites the fiberglass...it gets the 'ol ticker a flutterin'.

 

[Capt. Bob]

Gentlemen,
I'm going to stir the pot a little here.

1. Bob. The two pump idea. Is that because you haven't found one pump that could do both jobs well i.e. have proper circulation in the bait well and enough pressure to work as an efficient wash down? I asked because this will be my first attempt at a well/wash single pump. I may very well have to go with two.  Another point is that an additional valve is needed in the one pump design.
Thoughts.

Now about the thru hull.
That's not really a sea cock you picture there but rather a valve. With a true sea cock, you could have mounted the cock (that's just not right ) since it bolts to the hull in a position that would allow for the handle to operate. A hose barb then could be properly tightened into the SC and a flexible hose double clamped to the barb/pump eliminating the error (possible leakage) that might have occurred when tightening the multiple fittings. Is it safe to assume that there is not enough space to allow for the proper device to be installed and that the thru hull pickup was there when you started so you were left with little choice in the matter?

I do realize that what constitutes a proper sea cock is often up for debate and I'm playing devil's advocate here but...